/atheism/ - Atheism

Advertising was kinda cool, even if it didn't de-convert anyone it was funny to see ultra-conservatives get their panties ruffled. Shame elevator game came along and ruined the atheist-skeptic movement we'd been building for decades.

>>2026

Atheists asked for it by inviting feminists and SJWs into their movement.

>>2022
This a good thing.

Atheists need to know other atheists exist and that it's okay not to drink the god kool aid.

Belief in the "Sky daddy" infects our culture on all levels and it's an insult.

How many times have you had real problems and had people say they are going to pray for you? It's a polite way of saying "Good luck with that."

If you have ever faced depression or substance abuse,, dozens of people, even real professionals, will tell you to evoke a "higher power."

>>2037

Before the A+ debacle, the atheist community was gaining a lot of momentum and popularity everywhere you saw it. Apologists were getting their asses handed to them and outspoken atheists were everywhere and on the rise.

Shortly after the A+ incidents, we saw a big drop in activity from many of the most well-known faces of the atheist community, the four horsemen came under fire from internal sources, and once-loved figures within the movement such as Dillahunty and Myers turned on atheism and sided with the SJWs and feminists.

Then came the fedora and euphoria memes, and before long, atheists got shoved into the corner where they could be immediately bashed with the old accusations of being rebellious, immature, arrogant pseudo-intellectuals which were being used against them before the rise of atheism's popularity on the internet.

Who do you think pushed this narrative the hardest? Which group of spoiled-rotten, frothing-at-the-mouth little warriors looking for a cause decided to use their social and political influence to smear the image of atheist in the span of a few months following A+ and the rift it tore into the atheist movement?

What they are trying to do to gamers now is simply what they successfully did to atheists in recent history. A+ was a failure, but they took down the atheist movement with them.

People need to know that they're not alone.

>>2029
This. We need to get our shit together.

>>2060
Trying to unite feminism and atheism was always stupid. They are totally separate concepts with disparate objectives. The only thing they have in common is their tendency to dislike the enforcement of unnecessary old rules which came from religon.

There is not nearly the same synergy here as say the civil rights movement and gender equality had in the 1920's.

>>2063

"Stupid" is too strong a word, I think. I would say "short-sighted," because it certainly seemed shrewd at the time and on the surface. Getting women on your side is essentially scoring the winning touchdown against your political enemy. Nothing says "victory" quite like "women refuse to fuck anyone on or cheering for the other team."

The problem is that feminists like to saddle up with anyone who will help them spread their influence and power, and then promptly stab their former allies in the back as soon as they think they no longer have a need for them.

Sometimes, the enemy of your enemy just isn't your friend.

>>2037
They've been our enemies for decades. See: the science wars

>>2115
>>2063
Ultimately it was the wrong time and for the wrong reasons. Atheism Plus bitched and moaned about sexual harassment at conventions and triggers online and have said nothing about about the plight of women in the middle east and Africa nor even spoke of things that actually do negatively affect women in real life here in the first world. That was the atheists.

Atheism+ was born in a time when more people in the first world had more rights than at any other point in human history and at a time when we should not be separating ourselves and our issues based on sex, race, etc but uniting them and ourselves under the fact that we are all human and thus all should have the same rights as one another.

When the atheists were saying your sex and race does not matter, Atheism+ said that those things determine your worth.

They failed because like the religious right, they are primitive and hold only outdated mindsets. Ironic considering they're the ones touting themselves as the progressives.

>>2022
It's no secret US was found by deists.

>>4412
The irony of that is that by not identifying as a Christian nation, you are declaring yourself fair game to the muslims.

Christian get a little consideration under Sharia law.. Atheists get nothing at all.

>>4425
By the all religion will be in such decline in America that we can convert the handful of Muslim immigrants, or rather, the second generation to glorious Dawkinism.

>>4425

I'm glad to see that the moral standard theocratic Christians uphold is apparently one step above ISIS

>>4427
I don't think you understood what I was trying to say.

Under Sharia law, a Christian is permitted to exist. They have to submit to second class status and pay extra taxes but they get to live.

Atheists have to convert or die.

>>4431

So those crucifixions in Syria, those were just cultural misunderstandings?

Face it, under Sharia law, you have as many rights as I do. Just because they don't take yours away immediately doesn't mean jackshit

>>4433

Well at least we can agree on avoiding Sharia law.

>>4425
>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
Good luck with that, Muslims.

As long as its positive messages that are targeted towards improving the attitudes of religious people instead of attacking them. I live with fundie nutjobs, sometimes I see advertisements that make me cringe because I know how they respond.