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1b135a No.2252

I was listening to this today and it got me thinking, what anti-theist animes or mangas exist?

I'm not talking about characters or scenes, I mean that the entire plot revolves around it.

Do they exist? Where are they?

90225e No.2253

I honestly can't think of any, but I will recommend Xenoblade Chronicles, spoilers ahead the whole game is about how gods will eventually abuse power and how Shulk created a world with no gods, where everyone will live their own life, uncontrolled.

My favourite game, seriously. you even get to battle god in the end

I do also want to watch some anti theist anime so I'm gonna watch this thread

b29bed No.2255

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Trigun is commonly called a rare Christian anime because of the symbols, and because the author converted to Catholism. However the protagonist, Vash seems like an atheist, who mocks the priest Wolfwood when he prays for his success in battle, with lines like, "Does prayer really work?" "That's entirely up to you." "Alrighty then."

At the end, Vash also forgives himself for his short-comings while he partially throws away the dogma he was raised with, namely, "Thou shall not kill under any circumstances." The last lines he uttered in the anime were, "Rem, I will continue to believe in you, but from now I'll look to my own words for guidance."

This resembles a Christian deciding they like some of the values enough to call themself one, but will question them and ultimately form their own beliefs. He believes Rem was a good person, but no longer will deify her. Especially since he met someone else who was capable of being just as pure and peace-loving: Meryl. That's just more proof she's human.

A lot of the so-called Christian symbolism could be Buddhist too; even the villanious Knives is redeemed in the manga. His companion, Meryl, also acts like the reincarnation of Vash's saintly mother figure, Rem.

1b135a No.2256

>>2255
I'd imagine it's as christian as Evangelion.

c1e776 No.2257

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If you guys haven't watched Serial Experiments Lain, you really should. My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I could have sworn there was some somewhat atheistic messages in there, if not that, then the god in that show isn't the god you know from religion.

People give this anime a lot of shit for being "loldeep", but I don't really give too much of a shit about making (too much) sense of what happens in the anime like many fans of this show do, for me the enjoyment came from the fun and interesting psychedelic ride the show gives you from start to end.

1b135a No.2258

>>2257
I'll check it out. I like 2deep4u shit.

90225e No.2260

>>2255
> because the author converted to Catholism
That's interesting, I watched Trigun two times and I've never thought that the author was in favor of religion.

I mean, you are right, Vash mocks Wolfood and his prayers and he is the main character of the story, he seems atheist. But then again, we also see Wolfood being cool with his christian weapons and you know, what he generally says through the show.

So I guess that Trigun is a pro faith anime?

b29bed No.2262

>>2260
I have also heard he is not a catholic, or implied he is no longer one. http://beneaththetangles.com/2011/04/22/the-faith-of-yasuhiro-nightow/
There are parts where Vash openly mocks the hypocritisy of the gun-toting priest Wolfwood. Also there is the part where Knives said he wanted to create his own Eden.

90225e No.2276

>>2262
Nice find on the link, apparently, he tends to appear more atheistic than theistic, but he tries to hide his views. Either way, I see Trigun as neutral when it comes to faith, because there are religious and non religious characters in it and the story stays kinda neutral for both types

1b135a No.2277

>>2276
I think that's about par for the course for Japan though. They're one of the most atheistic countries in the world so any religion to infect them would be diluted or have to be disguised. Compare them with Korea where Christianity is the most popular in Asia, porn is illegal there.

90225e No.2278

>>2277
>porn is illegal there.
to make right? or to view? what happens if you view porn in south korea?

91ccc4 No.2279

>>2253
This made me realize something. Religious people who protest anti-religious fiction have extremely pleb tastes.

1b135a No.2319

>>2278
I don't recall. I do know that it is illegal to make though.

1b135a No.3619

>>2279
Where do you think they get it from? These are people who thought that God is Not Dead was a legitimately good movie.

1b135a No.3620

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Well, there's this.

3b0a0f No.10284

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Simoun. The show takes place in a futuristic theocracy that's fighting losing a war to several other nations. They fight using "the chariots of the Gods," which are flying machines built from lost technology. Lots of themes about a religion being exploited by the military and the lost of (a country's) purity. The characters sometimes manipulate the main crew's status as respected priestess (sibyl) for soldiers.

In one of the episodes, they try to turn the war around by breaking a taboo and opening of the holy machines, only to discover there is nothing inside. One of the characters has a mental breakdown at the emptiness. They also discover the religion of another country is similar to theirs, and speculate that they are worshiping manifestations of the same deity. Later it's revealed that the modern world was born when two of the main characters went back in time to the aftermath of a cataclysmic war, and fell from the sky in their aircraft. They gave hope to the people, taught them how to fly the machines, and in time people came to worship those that flew the machines. The ending is that they lose the war, but two of the main characters decide to escape through time, so they will remain young and "just as we are" forever. Everyone else must change and die, but they'll know that somewhere their two friends are still alive, blinking in and out of various skies, like goddesses really.

It's not really Atheistic, but it is an interesting show that picks up around episode 13.


3b0a0f No.10559

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I felt like Hell Girl did a good job of showing how terrible it is for an innocent person to be sent to hell. The premise is any person can send anyone to hell, but in return they will be sent to hell. Some people are so blinded by revenge they do it, only to realize afterward it wasn't worth it, or their enemy wasn't their enemy and didn't deserve it. Still a lackluster anime though.




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