No.242
I remember back when The Amazing Atheist actually mattered on YouTube - when The Amazing Atheist actually had somebody to fight. You don't need much mental capacity to be the voice of reason speaking out against the crazy people of YouTube, as if speaking out against them would in any way make them stop. YouTube needed somebody to speak up against bullshit, and this guy jumped at the idea.
…but over the years, as YouTube became infamous for its self-policing mockery campaigns, The Amazing Atheist found himself out of a job. First he started bringing up other issues: Censorship (95% bullshit), Feminism (90% bullshit), weed (60% bullshit), and so on.
Maybe it's the weed smoking that is finally taking its toll, but now he's down to mocking people who doesn't agree with him. He's using the same mocking smugness, picking on people mispronouncing words, chopping up their videos in the middle of sentences, and leaning against the mystical argument "Well, we have MOUNTAINS of evidence for what I think. It's all science." even when he's factually wrong. YouTube atheists like The Armoured Skeptic actually bother to look up counterarguments against the arguments they get, refuting them with an educated opinion. All The Amazing Atheist has, is "reason". …and mixed with enough stupidity, reason can be used to justify anything. In the medieval times, it's reasonable to believe in a god, as the "mountains of evidence" was on the side of religion. Up until this year, it was "reasonable" to believe that weed was dangerous, as that's what the government promoted science studies told you to believe. Doubting them, that's radical thinking. Thinking outside the box that society has built for you, that's unreasonable thinking.
…but it's not like The Amazing Atheist is even consistent on this point, as weed and anti-feminism is going against "the mountains of evidence" that he supposes that society has for everything. At that point reason ceases to be a mask for ignorance, and he goes off on his own, still as self-confident as ever, this "voice of reason".
…so it is with a heavy heart, that I reject my Lord and Saviour The Amazing Atheist. You were once one of the sanest people on YouTube, but you have now finally succumbed to your own bullshit.
Amen
No.352
>>242Didn't he shove a banana up his own ass?
No.357
I remember back to the glory days when TJ was first starting. He was actually funny and he made some good points. He wasn't afraid to call out bullshit from blacks or Muslims. Over the years it's been almost depressing to watch the quality of his videos deteriorate along with his mental health. Now he's a complete libtard laughing stock who almost never has good arguments and shills for browser games at the start of his videos.
No.359
and then he shoved a bannana up his ass without using enemas while us Christians are wearing suits in church
No.362
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"WARNING: This video is artistic in nature and may not be accessible to stupider viewers."
Daily reminder that TJ made this pretentious piece of shit.
No one reasonably listens to TJ anymore without taking everything he says with a grain of salt.
No.364
>>352Didn't this guy also post a video of him scalding his fucking balls with hot water?
I mean, what the hell, brother?
No.366
>…..thinking anything ever matters on youtube specially neckbeard vids about atheism
No.367
>>366Thunderf00t can be interesting sometimes, other times he's a bit obnoxious and full of himself.
No.372
>>367I'll look at it for fun but I've never checked any atheist tubers really. I think it's a lost cause to begin with to be on the same platform as pewdiepie. Just looks like a lost cause either they are fools that can bring nothing to the table or attention hoes
No.412
He is entertaining, geez what with hating YouTubers these days, can't we all just enjoy laughing at clowns shoving bannanas up their ass?
No.419
>>412I watch his videos sometimes on rare occasions, while they can have points in them, I take them with a grain of salt.
Otherwise see
>>362 No.424
>>419I think the word "entertainer" would encompass someone who is NOT to be taken seriously.
No.599
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>>362If you think THAT'S bad, you should hear some of his fucking poetry.
No.601
>>242TJ is more entertainment now then anything. However, he'll still own up to being wrong. Just recently, he apologized to a Youtuber (Razorfist) for taking him out of context.
He's also always been an asshole. I do like The Drunken Peasants Podcast though.
>>367When TF is doing science stuff, like calling bullshit on Solar Roadways, he's awesome. His anti-feminism stuff gets tiring though, even if I do agree with him on *some* points.
Honestly, as far as Atheist Youtubers go, I usually prefer people like Armoured Skeptic and Steve Shives. Also Bible Reloaded is pretty good. They usually have a lot of thought and substance put into their videos. Or, at the very least, they're creative. (Like an Atheist Bible Study)
I still watch TJ from time to time, but his imitators are pretty annoying. Cult of Dusty is fucking lame, Jaclyn Glenn is meh, and Repzion is just plain annoying. I also don't give a fuck about the "logic" wear they like to peddle.
At least none of them are the "vegan Atheist." That guy is a fucking tool.
I could go on about this subject, because I'm a youtube faggot who spends way too much time watching videos.
No.605
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My fav atheist youtuber: darkmatter2525
No.607
I remember he actually used to do a good job of debunking claims made by the religious. From what I've last seen, it's mostly him talking in front of the camera but not really responding to anything.
Good youtube channel is CoolHardLogic. Not strictly atheism but more science vs pseudoscience general but the guy does a thorough job at wrecking geocentrist arguments.
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On another note. Has anyone noticed how there doesn't seem to be as many prominent atheist youtubers anymore? A few years ago there used to be several but now everyone has moved on. Back in 2009 I think was the height of Youtube atheism.
No.612
>>607Here's the ones off the top of my head. Some of them are new, some aren't:
Darkmatter, Steve Shives, Thunderf00t, Armoured Skeptic, Bible Reloaded, Aron Ra, Cult of Dusty, Jaclyn Glen, Mr.Repzion (sorta), Vegan Atheist, Logicked, CoolhardLogic, Creationist cat, King Crocoduck, Girldoesrant (Again, kinda), Arguing from ignorance, the amazing atheist…
People come and go, but Youtube wasn't what it was in 2009. The community was more involved with its self, vlogging was the big thing, and people would interact, through videos, with each other. You could actually reply to videos back then. Not only that, but people would be more inclined to, since it wasn't seen as bad press for you.
Since you can make a substantial income off of youtube now, people are less inclined to hurt their profits. That's probably why TJ seems a little more tame.
So, I think the Atheist community on Youtube is still pretty strong - it's just the nature of Youtube has changed. I remember back in 2009 when I would binge watch shit video replies on youtube over fights being had between people. (Back then I wasn't an atheist, so I didn't really watch the Atheists channels as much. I did watch the shit between conspiracy theorists and shit though.)
No.615
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>>242TAA is pretty good still, but Drunken Peasants is pretty hit or miss for me. He's also and ebegger and peddles his stupid shirts a lot.
The one that no one has mentioned yet is Mykeru Media. Why doesn't this man have more views?
No.616
>>362The only time TAA ever responded to one of my comments is when I called this video "pretentious", among other things. Apparently I am "small minded".
No.628
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No love for my favorite gayfag, Justicar? He doesn't talk much about religious topics, so it's probably more accurate to describe his channel as being dedicated to skepticism. What I like about Justicar is that he is willing to call out anyone out on their bullshit, including atheists. These last few days he has been tearing GrapplingIgnorance a new asshole in the comment section of his video on privilege. He says exactly what he sees wrong with your argument/reasoning and he doesn't sugarcoat it. He also did a brilliant job against the Atheist+ crowd about two years ago when ElevatorGate was still relevant.
>>605DarkMatter is also great, he is probably one of the primary reasons why I abandoned deism and finally became an atheist. You should also check out his other channel DarkAntics, if you haven't already. He doesn't do many videos (he has a life) which is a shame.
GrapplingIgnorance was alright for a while, but his recent feminism videos are making me lose hope in him. I don't have a problem with feminism per se, but his thinking on the topic is quite sloppy.
KnownNoMore also has some interesting videos on Presuppositional apologetics. His older videos focus on countering Christian apologetics such as Kalam, Transcendental argument, and others. He excels at pointing out why their arguments are non-starters and has some interesting methods of approaching these topics. My only complaints would be that he has a heavy accent (I don't mind but other might) and that his recent videos focus on Materialism, which is much less interesting to me.
No.796
What do you guys think of Sargon of Akkad? I started to look into some of his stuff since he popped up in GamerGate. He dips into the ad hominems too often for my taste, but he talks about cultural and political stuff that I don't think most atheists online usually do. By which I mean British stuff. I don't think he's ever explicity identified himself as an atheist, but he's referred to religious people as believing in myths.
>>601> I do like The Drunken Peasants Podcast though.I watch it just because it's way too fucking rare to see someone comment on current events without the ridiculous bullshit that the news layers on top of everything. Ben and TJ are actually engaging hosts, even though they're drinking and blazed (ostensibly). They actually managed to host a civil debate between a feminist and an MRA.
>his imitatorsThey're the fucking worst, man. TJ is fairly intelligent. Dusty is retarded and only thinks with his feels. Jaclyn Glenn is retarded and has a fetish for beating dead horses despite being vegan. Repzion is retarded and infuriatingly inarticulate.
>>605This motherfucker is doing the most good. I find the aesthetics of his videos off-putting, but the content is always on-point.
>>367Like the other guy said, TF is good with science but grating with social issues. Even when I agree with him, which is often, it bugs me that he's not more polite about it. With science there's no reason to package the message. Science is based on criticism and anyone who actually works in science has to be tolerant of criticism. This is probably why he is like he is. Academics and regular people aren't like that. If you try to convince them that they're wrong in the same way you'd peer-review something scientific, you're going to have a bad time.
>>424Comedy and lightheartedness are powerful tools to soften people up for hearing about concepts that would normally be too much of a turnoff.
>>615>Atheism+This is my trigger word, pls no. Seriously though, those people should just be ignored while the rest of us keep being skeptical and decent people. Continuing to talk about atheism+ makes them continue to be relevant and makes us look butthurt as fuck.
No.816
>>796>SargonHe loses his temper very, very easily; though his arguments are almost always reasonable and he isn't afraid to admit when he's wrong.
I wish he made more history videos.
No.823
I like TAA, but I'm not sure how seriously I take him. I mean, most of his videos these days are just reactionary rants and critiques on pop culture. Which I guess is a good idea if he's trying to make his channel a business.
Pretty sure that my favorite "atheist Youtuber" is Logicked. His videos are often over stuff that hasn't been covered by every single other Youtuber, so it feels kinda fresh, even if they are older videos that he's covering. Plus he's usually pretty articulate and well researched, combined with a nice snarkyness.
>>796I used to love Sargon, but I've gotten really burned out on SJW shit, so I haven't watched him in a while.
No.826
>>823I don't really take any AA video seriously, since the way he makes videos is more for entertainment then anything. Most people I think go to his videos to see what he says about any given subjects rather then see well made arguments/debates/etc etc.
No.835
I like TAA, if only for entertainment value, and the Drunken Peasants Podcast is pretty funny.
I'm a fan of Thunderf00t, his social issue videos drag on sometimes, but I like him.
No.839
What kind of video do you want to see more of on youtube? Like what particular style of debunking or what targets and whatnot?
Personally I'd like to see more people like v00d00sixx. He made videos debunking shit like ghost hunters or Bigfoot hunters and whatnot.
No.840
I watched TAA years ago but I stopped. I even bought the Douchebag Bible at some point as a thank-you for all the years of entertainment.
Today, he's stopped dieting and adopted fat acceptance. He cheated on his wife with a man and is now an open bottom. He doesn't shave, doesn't groom, doesn't keep himself in any way. He's gross, obnoxious, and just really unpleasant. I still like his diatribes (when they're not on SJW shit like trannies) but I would be humiliated to say I listen to him.
No.841
It honestly embarrasses the fuck out of me that TJ has legit fans and followers. I'm not exaggerating when I say that he's the worst person I've ever seen in my life. No, really, he is everything that I fucking hate in a person. There is not one thing about him that makes him redeemable in any way, not one positive quality. Anyone of his personality traits, when embodied in another person, would make me dislike them. Why would anyone ever listen to anything he has to say? Ignorant people with strong opinions piss me off, and this one is fat as fuck, loudmouthed, and thinks he's an intellectual because he reads Christopher Hitchens books. Fuck him. I wish the worst possible fate on this breathing, shitting wast of mass.
No.1094
I feel like this is a good opportunity for you knuckle-dragging chucklefucks to wake up.
Ridicule is not a good idea in any context, and most of atheism consists of ridiculing things you don't agree with. It's no more correct to ridicule religion as it is to ridicule someone who thinks weed is maybe not the devil.
Most of the personality cults do very little reasoning and a lot of laughing. Dawkins openly encourage mockery. That is not reason, that is not any kind of logical debate. It's just one big fat ad hominem.
The feeling of smug, unfounded superiority is what defines your cult. Why do you think the fedora meme became a thing? Because it's funny because it's true.
Think for yourself and be open to other ideas sometime, it will make you happier than pointing and laughing.
No.1097
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>>1094Look at this fucking piece of shit right here.
People like Richard Dawkins mock religion, but they also have good points. Also, there's lot of reasons to ridicule religion, not a lot of reasons to respect it.
Go fuck back off to /christian/
No.1098
>>1097I've yet to see one good point come from the mouth of asshats like dawkins. There are secularists with good points, I forget their names since they aren't plastered all over the media. They also tend to not insult their opposition.
No.1113
I was never impressed with TAA. The only thing he ever seemed to do was state his opinions at a high volume with an obnoxious inflection. What he lacked in wit and subtlety, he made up for with the megaphone known as his voicebox.
To this day, it baffles me that anyone thought he was insightful. I just don't understand it. It isn't even like there weren't any other outspoken atheists on youtube. His popularity boggles my mind.
No.1117
>>1094
>Most of the personality cults do very little reasoning and a lot of laughing. Dawkins openly encourage mockery. That is not reason, that is not any kind of logical debate. It's just one big fat ad hominem.
>The feeling of smug, unfounded superiority is what defines your cult.I'll agree that it's rather dumb to waste time mocking people with different ideas all the time, I try not to be a dick with it comes to having a difference in opinion, but the thing that separates on from the cult is that we follow our own path and follow what makes sense to us. Not only that, but what you are describing is what religious people do too, perhaps with a bit less laughing. Furthermore:
>Think for yourself and be open to other ideas sometime, it will make you happier than pointing and laughing.Do you even realize what you just said?
No.1124
>>1094>>1094This is probably bait and shouldn't be responded to, but whatever. Lots of people might make fun of stuff just because they disagree with it. I can't speak for anyone but myself really. But I don't make fun of stuff just because I disagree with it. I disagree with the death penalty, but I don't think that I've ever joked about it. No, I make fun of shit that is fucking stupid and deserves to be made fun of. Like, I dunno, religion.
I mean, sure, there's a time to pull out the dick jokes or whatever, and there's a time not to, I'll give you that. Hell, some people really need to learn when the right time to start making cogent points as opposed to "RELIGION SURE IS FUCKIN STUPID RIGHT GUYS."
(looking at you Dusty)But at the end of the day stupid things should be made fun of.
No.1125
>>1094This is probably bait and shouldn't be responded to, but whatever. Lots of people might make fun of stuff just because they disagree with it. I can't speak for anyone but myself really. But I don't make fun of stuff just because I disagree with it. I disagree with the death penalty, but I don't think that I've ever joked about it. No, I make fun of shit that is fucking stupid and deserves to be made fun of. Like, I dunno, religion.
I mean, sure, there's a time to pull out the dick jokes or whatever, and there's a time not to, I'll give you that. Hell, some people really need to learn when the right time to start making cogent points as opposed to "RELIGION SURE IS FUCKIN STUPID RIGHT GUYS."
(looking at you Dusty)But at the end of the day stupid things should be made fun of.
No.1139
People that criticize something by mocking it tend to be the most awful kind of people. There's people on all sides of argument, be it religion/non-religion and such that use this tactic, if you want to call it such.
Let this thread die so I don't have to see his face anymore.
No.1607
AronRa is the only YouTube atheist that I still watch the back catalogue of.
Most followed the same old (admittedly correct) arguments about burden of proof, etc., but it was always nice to see someone make the effort to open up a can of phylogenetic tree and explain why every point was scientifically incorrect.
No.2187
>>242That dude is a cancerous faggot
>>1607>follwing y00t00b atheists>not just reading booksneurotypical please
No.2477
>>242all those guys are huge fags. they cant argue worth a fuck and arent genuinely logical. they just all get together, make videos, and masturbate to their title while half of them reap in their shekles from youtube because they dont even give a fuck about what they stand for anymore. theyre just as nonsensical as people who believe in the bible but dont read it. they fucking put their trust into ideas they dont understand.
No.2482
>>2187>Reading books>Not writing your own bookIt's like I'm surrounded by fucking plebs.
No.2500
>>2187He's only cancerous when he's spouting liberal buzzwords. When he's debating christfags, he's pretty based.
No.2507
No.2517
>>242He's a fag and gives he gives atheism a bad name.
>>796I like Sargon, but I think he gets himself worked up a bit too easy. He should chill out a little more. He seems like a smart guy
No.2558
>>367You shut your whore mouth. Thunderf00t is awesome.
No.2560
>>1607Don't have link to video but he's full blown SJW. He did some speech at an atheist/skeptic convention where he said feminism is by definition "believing in women's rights" and anyone who isn't a feminist is a misogynist. Shocked the fuck out of me when I saw it too.
No.2772
>>2560B8, his new shit is still anti-fem.
No.3204
>>2560>shocked by a dictionnary definition No.3223
>>2560there is massive difference between feminism and Tumblr sjw radical feminism
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No.3336
>>3223Not in the present. Radical feminism, or what CH Sommers calls gender feminism(as opposed to equity feminism) is the dominant current in feminist academia, feminist organizations and the feminist movement as a whole, right now.
It's the reason why less than 1 in 4 American women(in the UK even 1 in 7) still identifies as feminist while only 1 in 10 rejects gender equality.
The feminist label has been permanently tainted by these lunatics.
No.3349
>>2558Except when he's character-assassinating Stefan Molyneux in an attempt to White Knight for Ana Casparian.
No.3417
>>1094There's nothing wrong with mockery in private circles, though I agree that it's not really constructive to mock someone while arguing with them.
No.3450
His videos about social issues, particular transgender ones, strike me as just pushing an SJW agenda. My best friend came out as transgender about 2 years ago (before I was an atheist) and even now the topic is uncomfortable to me because I can't decide where I stand.
I get that people's perception of themselves doesn't necessarily correspond with how they are put together biologically. I get that my friend REALLY WANTS to be a woman. It just doesn't seem right to me that societies next step in this process is saying to him "well just cut your penis off then".
This especially holds for when we talk about transgender kids & them using the same bathrooms as the gender they identify with etc. Children are still developing emotionally and I'm not sure that just encouraging every thought they have about their identity is healthy. Isn't childhood and adolescence ALL ABOUT wrestling with the sort of shit about who you are and where you fit in the world? Isn't this process subject to a whole range of ups and downs throughout?
I mean fuck this is a big issue. Society seems totally comfortable with telling people if they feel they are X then they are X. There are so many facets that need to be discussed regarding transgender people in society. It really pisses me off to see someone who claims to be a skeptic just saying: "well the studies say its normal so its normal".
No.3451
>>599Jesus Christ. This is middle school grade emo shit.
No.3517
>>3336>Not in the presentthat's kind of my point, some people don't realise that feminism has changed so much in the last years.
originally feminist = person who thinks men and woman should have equal rights, and that's a dictionary definition. Outdated? perhaps, but nonetheless it's what "a feminist" """can""" mean
now, a being a feminist """could""" mean is thinking women should be automatically entitled to MORE RIGHTS, because of men majority in high paying positions exists (but fuck men majority in low paying and dangerous jobs, of course), among many other crazy bullshit.
No.3777
I don't like the AA because he sounds like a fucking hipster douchebag.
It is funny when he bashes feminism for saying "you should beat up your wife" though but beating men is fun and absolutely legal, and women don't want to be beaten! It is not equalitarian! 2edgy5u