No.2527
Can we have a thread about mocking /christian/'s stupid medieval posts and bans for not being in their cute hugbox?
post your pics
No.2529
>>2527/christian/ here. The mods are extremely ban happy, and are also deleting some of our own posts for no apparent reason. Many of us actually don't like the way things are being handled.
No.2530
No.2533
>>2527Yeah the Christian posts on the "atheism general thread" are mostly trolls, and they don't try hard to refute any arguments. But if a non-believer ever gets the least bit snippy the admin will delete your posts on that board.
No.2538
People have questions. You can't believe anything unless you're convinced to believe and questions satisfy that. The mod there's a euphoric hypocrite that doesn't want anyone to know their god, only to represent their god and act intolerant of questions so he can perpetuate the euphoric mentality of the intellectually incestuous hugbox.
No.2552
>>2538And he tips his fedora regularly.
No.2553
>>2527Some threads just seem like troll threads, honestly.
No.2563
The moderation on /christian/ is rather odd.
Back in the boards early days I got tempbanned for making a joke about how people at the time acted incredibly different compared to the rest of the site, and I saw that as hypocritical.
Then when this board reopened, some of you might remember Alex (as he calls himself) coming here and asking for us to stop allowing religious debate because he wanted to keep a christian quota on 8chan and he didn't want his board to look bad for that. He suggested we all collaborate on a religious debate board. I said I was against it, but I'd leave it up to the people here to decide. No one said much, so I just declined the offer.
Then the other day, I went back to the christian board and noticed people were now acting more similar, but were doing more "immoral" things than previously. So this time I just made a serious thread asking why these people were posting what they were on such an unchristian website. Some answers made sense, some misunderstood me, 1 was a bit arrogant like how 8chan apparently belongs to god, and others (mainly made by one guy) were really euphoric and nonsensical. I got bored and left when the euphoric guy finally gave me a good enough answer.
But strangely enough that thread was left up.
So I guess my advice if you're going to post there about atheism is try not to sound like a troll and try not to be an asshole even if its a response to the other parties acting that way. The reason my first post was deleted was because it was clearly a troll post.
No.2564
>>2553Goddamn that first reply.
No.2572
>>2563For the /christian/ mod, every atheist that is not bending down and apologizes for his own post because he is atheist is a "troll post". It can't be helped
No.2573
I have never posted on /christian/ before. Just how bad are the mods there?
No.2575
/christian/ is awful. It's becoming a huge circlejerk for anti-modernists.
>Hey /christian/ I want to do this *obviously sinful activity*
>No you can't because muh orthodoxy!
No.2577
>>2575Thats ironic. The other day I saw someone post Hank Hill about to be raped by a dolphin.
No.2578
>>2577Christians on a *chan board is pretty fucking ironic to begin with.
No.2583
>>2575Whats wrong with that thread? Seems like a pretty tame discussion of Christian theology/doctrine, regardless of whether you happen to believe in it.
No.2590
Reminder that etymologically, "bigot" means "by god".
No.2601
>>2583They want to make Christianity as ridiculously traditionalist as possible. An annoying number of people are deadset on making every discussion revolve around Cathodoxy, they've taken over the board almost.
No.2605
>>2601And?
Together, Catholics and Orthodox constitute the largest sub-group within Christianity. It's only natural a significant portion of threads would revolve around "Cathodoxy." If anything, the volume of Protestant posts are probably above average, relatively speaking.
Regardless, what do you expect them to talk about? How best to re-interpret the Bible to allow for gay marriages and abortion so they can look more "tolerant"? Not gonna happen.
>ridiculously traditionalist From that pic it seems like a Prot, a Catholic, and an Ortho are all discussing the Marian dogmas of the Catholic Church. It might seem odd to an outsider that they're spending so much time on the topic, but it's a common thread of discussion among Christians and not at all "ridiculous."
No.2606
>>2575>>2601/christian/ here
we are experiencing a pol invasion and obviously to pol Christianity is nothing more than a way to protect culture and save the white race or whatever stupid shit they think
that's why so many threads on this issue,
I don't like it either, but I'm surprised how many /christian/s support it or are all for it.
No.2610
>>2606">not understanding /pol/cutlure XDDDDD"
Yeah they can say that all they want, I'm convinced at least 1/4th of them use that to deflect criticism.
No.2637
Temp banned for 3 days for replying to a stale meme with this edited picture. On a thread about whether masturbation is a sin.
No.2640
>>2637I've been banned from /Christian/ too.
welcome to the club.
The trick is to ask them earnest questions that lead them to question their faith.
I've got a thread going about "god given" rights that might free some minds.
They love God. They love Liberty. But when they look in the Bible they will discover God doesn't love their liberty.
The cognitive dissonance will break their faith.
No.2641
>>2637This is funny, because christians use the image that you are chained to sin all the time, yet when someone replaces it with religion they wipe you from the board. If that is not the definition of a hugbox that is anti-free speech then I don't know what is.
No.2646
>>2637It's funny how the religious guy is the white one. Stats show that black people are the most religious demographic in the world.
No.2650
>>2637> Denshi JishoWeeaboo detected.
No.2652
>>2640>I've got a thread going about "god given" rights that might free some minds.>They love God. They love Liberty. But when they look in the Bible they will discover God doesn't love their liberty.>The cognitive dissonance will break their faith.You do realize that not all Christians are American and/or supporters of liberal democracy, and that the line of reasoning you're introducing is more likely to turn sincere Christians away from liberal democratic ideology than the other way around?
Not saying there's anything wrong with the thread or the proposition, just saying it won't necessarily have the desired effect.
No.2677
>>2652Well making them publicly admit they long for a dictatorship has got to help break the spell of the sky wizard.
No.2678
No.2682
"Can't show this on a Christian imageboard" is a phrase that now applies.
No.2691
>>2682So their censorship is now based on biblical principles? That must be a relief to them
No.2733
They've made a handy chart to show just how lowly we are in their eyes.
It's so cute. They think they're special.
No.2737
>>2733I love how we are somehow on the same rank as Scientologists and Zionist Jews, and Satanism is somehow higher. Then again, something tells me that if these people were good examples of Orthodox Catholicism they would have made /christian/ ban and delete more than just people who don't agree. They can give me the "we're sick" excuse and the way more unjustified and rather unbelievably egotistical (because even though im probably misinterpreting it it definitely sounds that way) "Jesus was among sinners" excuse all they want, im damn near convinced many of them just use this "orthodox catholic" shit as brownie points to feel good about themselves, and for the most part ignore whats inconvenient to them. I know when I was a Catholic I used to ignore many things, have fun, and regret them later, fearing I would go to hell for masturbating to weird hentai. Though never once did I truly pretend I was going to heaven like these guys are and everyone around me did.
The worst part is they have the gall to say things like "God wills it" despite at least from my memories of being in the Catholic church, that that saying things in god's name like that is considered wrong.
Has anyone made an Atheist version of the Happy Merchant yet?
No.2738
>>2733This list is so fucking stupid.
No.2739
>>2737>Satanism is somehow higherSatanists may worship the Christians' main antagonist, but they still commit a lesser crime than atheists, who reject the story entirely.
No.2740
>>2733I'm glad to see there's so much unity in Christianity. Really doesn't make you question whether they're manmade or anything
No.2743
>>2740Reminding them of this is fun to do.
It's fun to watch them argue over absurd concepts like the trinity and virgin birth with bible quotes.
Once the Bible quotes start flying.. you can point out how the modern bible came into being. (It didn't fall out of the sky)
No.2750
>>2743youève been taken in by clever sales techniques
(the book is actually a work of early christian historical scholarship which focuses on how the new testament was created and the roles of ecclesiastical councils, scribes, etc in getting the work done)
It doesnt have much in the way of disproving the gospel message or authenticity and you cant really do that, because we still have all the original greek-aramaic manuscripts and more manuscripts which (with the exception of omissions and errors which come when writing by hand) are pretty much similar
No.2764
>>2750>disproving the gospel message or authenticity and you cant really do thatYou can disprove it as an accurate source of information. The gospel wasn't written by people who were "there". It was written by people who heard about it from other people, who heard about it from other people ect. Turning the writing of the gospels into a game of telephone. That explains the inconsistencies between books. It also explains why Roman historians at the time never recorded any supernatural events from the gospels (walking on water, raising from the dead, healing the blind ect.).
No.2765
>>2733I think it's funny how most atheists are simultaneously meh and bananas tier. It's like they don't understand what an atheists or an agnostic is.
A simple lie of omission will cause these religitards to think I'm better then a Norse pagan instead of worse than a Satanist. All because of their own ignorance.
No.2769
>>2743Great suggestion, you have my thanks and this ex-christian is enjoying reading it. I would advise against any Christians dismissing the book as the work of a salesmen unless you have read enough of it to know better, and can support your position. It has a neutral tone, a rational methology, and is written by an ex-Christian who "understands the big picture" Christians like to pretend atheists do not get.
( I'll warn though that his evidence might cause a rational persin to call what remains of the bible the legacy of warring "salesmen," or rather religious factions that tried to refute one another. So if you badly want to believe in the devil and hell, I encouraged you to believe what the Christian apologetics write about the book, and I'd like for you to quietly leave us atheists to partake in the rigorous studies for the truths of the world without the burden of reading uneducated Christian nagging.)
I especially how this author talks about how different sects of Christianity were fighting each other and there was pressure to change the bible to support your own views up until it was canonized. The part where it talks about how certain passages were doctored to make it known Jesus had human flesh in Luke, and the part about a mysoginist letter that was written in Paul's name by someone else (1st Timmothy) were nice reads. Jesus's church himself included a lot of women, and women were the first to rush to his tomb when he dided, but the early church leaders could not believe one of the apostles Junias was a woman, and so the apostle Junias was interpretted to be a man! Even though we have no record it ever being a man's name in antiquity.
No.2774
>>2769My favorite is the addition of the birth at Bethlehem. There probably really was a Jesus of Nazarth,,but to market his teaching to the jews they tried to force him into the Messiah thing.
But I guess a lot of ancient history is like this.. They think Plato used Socrates as a sock puppet too.
No.2776
>>2733Are you surprised? I hate how Christians pretend its all about modesty. I mean your saying the whole freaking universe was created for the human race. How much more arrogant can you get
No.2779
>>2776Not only that, but they constantly claim to be special because they seek god, they can see him and feel him, we cannot, because we are not special.
If that doesn't reek of christian fedora, I don't know what does. The fedora tipping meme is made just to make fun of atheists anyway, there are plenty of euphoric people from all religions and no religions, kids and teenagers are just plain stupid.
No.2817
>>2774This is what makes me think the Jesus story was based on a real person. If you made him up, why not just have him be from Bethlehem? Why the journey (although the journey does make for a more engaging story)?
No.2827
>>2817Ancient history get weird like this.
First of all, you don't have much documentation, and it's often written down long after the events.
For example,, I think there are only four surviving original sources about Julius Caeser.
Second.. The Ancients liked to weave supernatural crap into reality. Julius Caser was supposed to be related to the Goddess Venus.
No.2842
I don't see a problem with how /christian/ does things. Isn't the point of the board for it to be a place where Christians can discuss finer points of theology, or a Christian take on things, or faith-related advice?
It seems to me people here are upset that they don't leave the board open as some general debate zone where Christians have to constantly justify there faith rather than for people with shared beliefs to discuss matters from their perspective.
No.2878
>>2842They've got the right to stay locked away in their little bubble, and we have the right to make fun of them for it.
/Christian/ has it's fair share of hate threads about Atheism, anyway.
As you can see from
>>2733 it's not like they treat any of us with any sort of respect.
No.2881
>>2842It wouldn't be a problem if this wasn't the very behavior they berate others for. As far as I'm concerned, all the feminists and SJWs on Reddit and the people of /christian/ have every right to turn their boards into the most Orwellian hugboxes possible, but then don't expect to be taken intellectually serious, because banning people for criticism is the hallmark of intellectual poverty
No.2883
>>2842Why should anyone try to shield themselves from criticism? Why should people protect themselves from discovering that they may be wrong? It's just a huge echochamber with mod approved posts, even valid criticism is deleted if it comes from the wrong person, atheists.
No.2884
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>>2640>They love God. They love Liberty.Maybe the some liberals and some Protestants, but most us trads reject the Enlightenment ideas of liberty and equality
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No.2887
>>2886Board owner, read newest sticky for a bit of clarification. While I don't expect to appease you, it provides a bit of insight as to what I was thinking.
No.2888
>>2887Of course your new sticky is not going to appease me. You banned me for no good reason. Best part is the irony of what was cut off in the post you banned me for:
">>25574
Btw how about that Christian hypocritsy admin? You let a Christian troll write the most ridiculous things on the pretext of keeping his thread going. This is okay >>26867 because he is part of your club, but then you delete / ban a ton of atheist posts for whatever? How do you sleep at night with your double standards? Wannabe-snarky flamebait and dumb posts from Christians can always stay, but no matter how clever or well-written a post is by an atheist it might be deleted without warning. If you are so convinced we are wrong, what is the danger in officially letting our posts remain? I'm half-expecting the next purge to delete most of our threads again."
—-
And then you did it lol! Here are the other recent posts on that thread for the record.
No.2889
>>2888Here are two more irrelevant posts so no one can say I did not present my point of view fairly. I did get frustrated on that thread, but I think it's understandable given how you moderate. Below was the reply I was writing before I realized you banned me. Because of this ban, I now have less faith that you can moderate fairly than I do that there is a compassionate Hebrew God.
>>27327There seems to be a misunderstanding. I have not ever gone into the historical origins of Christianity on this board in an attempt to disprove it, and believe me: I've read a lot about that subject and would go there if pure debate about what "is Christian" were my intention. What I do discuss and debate here is where the scripture leads a person's morality when taken fundamentally as a whole, in the way I was raised as a Baptist as you claim to have been. I think this willingness to question creates a misunderstanding. I enjoy reading what people say in response to my point of view.
Just because I have chosen not to believe in something does not mean I am unable to study the merits of that belief. Half of my beliefs are still founded on the "Christian principals" I agree with.
No.2890
>>2887Give me a minute. Not exactly sure what going on yet, but if you think that guy is me, your mistaken.
No.2892
>>2888For the record, you don't need to screencap. There's an archive
http://8archive.moe/christian/ No.2893
>>2890Board owner of /christian/
No.2894
>>2893Yes, I am aware you are the board owner of /chistian/. Still reading, got sidetracked with something important. Just saying that guy you banned was not me.
No.2895
>>2893Ah, my apologies, I can't believe I misunderstood your post. I realize that wasn't directed at me now. I'll leave my opinion in the sticky in a little bit.
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No.2897
>>2888Alex's true colors show.
No.2898
>>2842/Christian/ has a lot Catholics fighting Protestants, and the occasional Mormon.
They also talk about fapping a lot.
No.2900
>>2898Alex also fucking hates Mormons.
No.2901
>>2892A helpful link. Here was the specific topic though:
http://8archive.moe/christian/thread/18643/The ban actually came from the "Atheist/Fedora General," a thread that was started because a Christian was mad when he saw too many topics from Atheists on a Christian board. He wanted to make a topic where he could contain them all (and possibly mock/browbeat them into submission.) Atheists who go to the board expecting designated topic to have the most outreach, or to at least be the most tolerant of inevitable disagreement, will be in for a world of disappointment.
No.2902
>>2901nd ths s hw t wll lwys b.
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No.2903
>>2897>>2900It's very strange to see my first name written out on a chan referencing me. It's an odd feeling I can't quite describe. Not a major one, just strange.
>Alex's true colors show.Didn't mean to overreach, but I don't regret the choice. If you thought there was malicious intent there wasn't.
>Alex also fucking hates Mormons.They're not Christian but I don't hate them. There was a Mormon kid at my elementary school but other than that I don't have any personal experience with them.
No.2904
>>2888It's really pointless to argue with Christians especially on their own turf. They have ways of spinning anything to make it work. That's the trick to a successful cult, to make people really want to stay in the cult. Modern Christianity appeals to a certain pseudo-intellectualism topped off with some reverse psychology for good measure. Since there is no good reason to believe Christianity, there's no good way to argue against it. They have enough theology to chew on to keep them occupied and feeling like they're doing something meaningful. It's like nerds arguing about Star Trek while choosing to ignore the idea that it's just a show.
One of the main things that turned me to non-belief is how many stupid things they argue about that have no logical answer. Predestination was the last straw because it made me realize that God would be a dick either way.
No.2905
>>2903>Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints>Not ChristianSon of a bitch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_SaintsPlease educate yourself before you sound like even more of an idiot than you already are.
This guy is a mod of /chrischan/
No.2908
Alex is a fucking Baptist, the stupidest form of Christian.
No.2909
>>2908Ah, that would explain it.
No.2912
>>2905nigga do you even know how controversial the Mormon Church is?
No.2913
>>2909I understand where he is coming from though as a former Baptist. The Mormons add an entire book and have some extreme practices. Every Christian I met has denigrated them, and some refused to vote for Mitt Romney because he was Mormon.
Only when you step away from Christianity can you realize how much they share in common. Or how many other branches are nearly as extreme as the Mormons. The 7th day Adventists and Jehova's witness are almost equally denigrated.
No.2915
>>2912So if a church is controversial, that means they aren't christian? In that case, there is no such thing as a Christian church.
>>2913The Jews think the same about the Christfags, what's your point?
No.2935
>>2915Mormon's are nontrinitarian and add to the bible, as well as adding some very non-christian beliefs - polygamy and the ability for man to become gods are two of them.
No.2937
>>2935Polygamy was in the bible, I can tell you haven't read it. Where does it say in the bible that men don't become gods. It doesn't matter what their beliefs are, as long as they believe in Jesus as their savior, that makes them christians.
I bet you think Catholics aren't christians either.
No.2938
The downfall of /christian/ will be from dogmatic sectarian infighting; them traditionalists have let their man-made fallible doctrines lose sight of the true spirit of Jesus.
>>>/jesus/ No.3007
>>2935They're Christian by definition. They worship Christ.
No.3013
>>3007well if you wanna go that broad muslims are christian because they believe Jesus was a prophet
No.3025
>>3013By worship Christ I obviously mean as the son of God. As in, they think Christ is a divine being, not a human prophet.
No.3026
>>3013You are really fucking stupid.
No.3091
>>2887Alex has deleted the thread he stickied. Doesn't want too many board members to know how many bans there are.
No.3097
>>3091You realize the ban list is public for the entire site right? I could never hide it even if I wanted to. You are reading a lot into things.
No.3099
>>3097But you will admit that you deleted your topic,"On Board Administration & Bans." The question is what for?
No.3102
>>2883Faith has to be protected from questions and reason.
Back in the old days, they could just beat you into silence now they can only ban you.
No.3103
>>3099To be fair, didn't he say he was only going to leave it up for a while?
No.3105
Hey Alex, why did one of your board volunteers delete and ban me for posting a link to
>>>/jesus/ ? Not cool.