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 No.2617

Why the fuck is athiesm so goddamn pro-gay. I can't see a good debate between any religion and athiests without the athiests sucking homosexuality's dick. Since when are athiesm and homosexualyity mutually exclusive?

 No.2621

Probably because they are both major players in the major shift western society is facing right now. These groups that want change and most of them want to make the world a better place, so they try to understand each other and group up to be stronger, though unfortunately many people are misguided and use their feelings over logic and real research.

Personally I don't have any qualms with homosexuality. Even if it's somehow a mental illness (which I'm not going to believe without real proof) we could use it to help with the overpopulation that will happen eventually with the rate we are going. Getting aids? Who fucking cares, just use condoms and check your partner. Using that as ammunition is dumb as hell.

So in short: Meh.

 No.2622

One would assume that if you are an atheist, you are because you concluded logically that there isn't any evidence to prove that god exists.

So if you have a bit of brainpower to make your own decisions and logical conclusions, you would also say that being gay is a harmless coincidence that happens mostly in private. I say mostly, because even straight and gay people sometimes display affection in public.

So, I am not sucking homosexuality's dick as you say, but it's really not my fucking business if someone wants to fuck someone else in the ass, it's just what they are attracted too and they won't rape you or your children just because they are fucking gay.

You fucking faggot.

 No.2623

>>2617
My religious family are all anti-gay. Then I discovered my own secret fetishes, did my own thinking, and found I could empathize with the victims of a prejudiced culture…no one likes being told what to do. I realized I had no reason to dislike gays for doing whatever they do. Some of the brightest and most influential men ever to live were also gay….Socrates, Plato, Leonardo, Michelangelo, Alan Turner… Alexander the Great, Virgil.

Then I read what Christian society have done to gays:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots

tl;dr: when I started thinking for myself, I quickly changed my opinion.

 No.2625

>>2617
I'm not pro or against, I just really don't care.

>>2617
>Why the fuck is athiesm so goddamn pro-gay. I can't see a good debate between any religion and athiests without the athiests sucking homosexuality's dick. Since when are athiesm and homosexualyity mutually exclusive?

That's just mainstream political shit flinging. I personally am fine with gay people doing their thing, but I don't give a shit about the whole "support gay rights" activism thing.

It's not my battle.

 No.2627

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>>2617
We're not pro-gay, we're neutral. We realize they gay people having gay sex and getting married literally affects only gay people. Religious people just want to push their beliefs and rules on people who don't believe the same thing. Atheists, obviously, think that's wrong. You're imaginary friend doesn't get to make the rules that everybody else lives by, deal with it.

First you force gays not to get married, then you force everyone to drink your Kool-Aid.

 No.2629

>>2627
>Religious people just want to push their beliefs and rules on people who don't believe the same thing.

Don't really see why this is much of a criticism against religious people in particular, since the same can be said of virtually every ideology or ethical/moral philosophy that isn't completely solipsistic.

 No.2631

>>2629
alright then, religious people + every other system of beliefs that try to change harmless activities of people

 No.2632

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>>2623
jesus

Conviction for indecency

In January 1952, Turing, then 39, started a relationship with Arnold Murray, a 19-year-old unemployed man. Turing had met Murray just before Christmas outside the Regal Cinema when walking down Manchester's Oxford Road and invited him to lunch. On 23 January Turing's house was burgled. Murray told Turing that the burglar was an acquaintance of his, and Turing reported the crime to the police. During the investigation he acknowledged a sexual relationship with Murray. Homosexual acts were criminal offences in the United Kingdom at that time,[104] and both men were charged with gross indecency under Section 11 of the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885.[105] Initial committal proceedings for the trial were held on 27 February during which Turing's solicitor "reserved his defence".

Later, convinced by the advice of his brother and his own solicitor, Turing entered a plea of "guilty".[106] The case, Regina v. Turing and Murray, was brought to trial on 31 March 1952,[107] when Turing was convicted and given a choice between imprisonment and probation, which would be conditional on his agreement to undergo hormonal treatment designed to reduce libido. He accepted the option of treatment via injections of stilboestrol, a synthetic oestrogen; this treatment was continued for the course of one year. The treatment rendered Turing impotent and caused gynaecomastia,[108] fulfilling in the literal sense Turing's prediction that "no doubt I shall emerge from it all a different man, but quite who I've not found out".[109][110] Murray was given a conditional discharge.[111]

Turing's conviction led to the removal of his security clearance and barred him from continuing with his cryptographic consultancy for the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), the British signals intelligence agency that had evolved from GC&CS in 1946 (though he kept his academic job). He was denied entry into the United States after his conviction in 1952, but was free to visit other European countries, even though this was viewed by some as a security risk. At the time, there was acute public anxiety about homosexual entrapment of spies by Soviet agents,[112] because of the recent exposure of the first two members of the Cambridge Five, Guy Burgess and Donald Maclean, as KGB double agents. Turing was never accused of espionage, but in common with all who had worked at Bletchley Park, he was prevented by the Official Secrets Act from discussing his war work.[113]

 No.2633

>>2617
Because religion is literally the only reason that people think something is wrong with being gay.

 No.2647

>>2627
This, as a bi-fag, I don't care unless someone is trying to impose their morality on others.

 No.2651

Religion remains one of the very very few aspects of modern society that still condemns homosexual practices.

Criticisms all boil down to religious arguments (it's a sin) or pseudo-religious arguments (it's degeneracy) or things that can be disputed (AIDs, as if homosexuals are the only group that spreads that STD)

That being said, I'd assume mosts atheists see gays, lesbians, etc as a bunch of people with a different taste in partners than themselves and don't see that as much of an issue. If they want to marry, whatever or adopt, whatever, or have sex, whatever. It doesn't matter to most atheists so when they hear a bunch of religious people make a mountain out of an ant hill, they likely think that's dumb as all hell and that religious people need to calm their tits because it's not like they're going forced to gay marry at dick point.

 No.2716

>>2617
OP you would fit well in Africa.
>>2698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w
"As Africans we want to ask Barrrack Obama is this what he wants to bring to Africa as a human right? To eat da poo-poo?!"

 No.2722

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>Since when are athiesm and homosexualyity mutually exclusive?
They're not mutually exclusive, they're independent.

 No.2727

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>>2633
>>2631

>Because religion is literally the only reason that people think something is wrong with being gay.


>harmless activities


no, not so much, this practice is condemned by Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Asian cultures

people around the world think there is something wrong with being gay because there is something wrong with being gay, unless you are someone that's forced yourself to pretend it's natural and good because you want to look progressive and cool

 No.2734

>>2727

>The Mainstream media won't tell you


If I learned anything by Alex Jones, that line is usually followed by lots of bullshit.

And look at that, it is.

 No.2735

>>2727
A few counterpoints:

1. Supporting homosexuality does not mean supporting promiscuity and other unhealthy behavior. The "is"s of homosexual behavior do not inform the "ought"s.
2. We allow other detrimental behavior (if being homosexual could be considered that) because our government's moral system is based on personal rights and liberties, NOT UTILITARIANISM.
3. The homosexual community may be having these problems because they have yet to receive proper support and a healthy social framework.
4. Socially stigmatizing people leads to depression and anxiety? Do you think we should probably stop stigmatizing them, then??

OK, imagine a world where homosexuals did not behave promiscuously and had healthy sexual habits(most do already!) Imagine that they were not socially stigmatized so they had less chance to development mental health problems. What would be the reason to ban homosexuality?

The fact is that the bulk of those problems exist because of lack of support for and stigmatization of homosexuality! Your graphic is actually an argument against yourself, you fucking moron!

This is the huge major stupidity with conservatism: by trying to suppress certain things, they exacerbate the problems. Then they're dumb enough to look at all the problems they've caused and use them to argue against it further.

 No.2736

>>2735
>The homosexual community may be having these problems
Make that "are", not "maybe". The sarcasm is too mixed up to be effective.

 No.2755

>>2722
This.

 No.2756

>>2727
>Homosexuality social, relationship health
Who cares

>Homosexuality & emotional, mental health

Problems cased by being ostracized and scorned.

>Homosexuality & well-being, physical health

STDs can be prevented with safe sex and sex education.

You're just desperately grasping at straws at this point.

 No.2757

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>>2722
>Posting an irrelevant fetish reaction image
Fag

 No.2759


 No.2761

>>2617
>muriclap christians
god hates fags

>muriclap atheists looking for memebers

we don't

 No.2864

>>2759
screenshot is from your gay link

>>2756

yeah who cares about promiscuity and infidelity - they're not signs of underlying issues nor do they cause any pain or hurt

as for the emotional mental - gays aren't the only ostracized and scroned groups, I don't see similar rates happening for Jews, or people with mental illnesses or other people who are ostrasized

and the final

>STDs can be preveted with safe sex and education


that's like encouraging people to jump off cliffs because injury can be prevented with modern padding and education on how to fall

why not just avoid the fucken cliff

>>2735

see above statements by the many other ostracized communities that do not suffer similar problems - the "dey opressin us" self victimization can only go so far

 No.2865

>>2864
Why can't Christians capitalize, or write clearly?

 No.2868

>>2864
>yeah who cares about promiscuity and infidelity
Not exclusive to homosexuality.

>as for the emotional mental - gays aren't the only ostracized and scroned groups

Not proof of anything.

>that's like encouraging people to jump off cliffs because injury can be prevented with modern padding and education on how to fall

Horrible metaphor.

 No.4878

Homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom. Deal with it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

 No.4893

I'm pro-gay because the world is overpopulated. I think we should have as many homos and childfree people as possible. Governments are just gonna have to deal with a shrinking economy.



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