/atheism/ - Atheism

>Fantasy games often put players face to face with the gods themselves, but what can game designers do to create non-believing characters in these worlds?
>Sci-fi games often take place in worlds where science has solved the mysteries of the universe, but is there room for characters of faith?

Man that's some stupid shit, some of my favourite games have some sort of evil or good gods in them, because in video game it's nice to have an option to actually combat with god or actually do a mission for god, since it's just fantasy.

Basically what the article is saying is this"

>Sci-fi games are fiction games, but is there room for fiction?

One of my favorite games was Shin Megami Tensei. I tinspired me to actually think about religion.

This SJW shit is fucking stupid.

Really there doesn't seem to be much wrong with this description, it's just people talking about how to put non believers in worlds where belief in deities is the norm, and putting believers in worlds where non belief is the norm. Chris Avellone does a good job of this because he does it the right way. I'm not sure about those other guys though because I don't give a shit about their games.

Problem is, what do these people do when the gods clearly exist though? Search for proof to fuel their theories? That might be interesting though, but it's not something I'd buy the game for.

Personally, I don't care whether videogames have gods or not, though like >>3643 said, fighting gods can be fun. Mostly though I care about how fun and immersive the game is.

>>3646
But this is fantasy. Any atheist in this world would say that an atheist in Final Fantasy or Xenoblade.

>>3640
gods in fiction. I'm totally okay with fictitious characters in fiction.

Both of these questions could be answered by there being an incredibly powerful alien entity that's worshipped as a God.

Atheists in fantasy: the atheist doesn't believe the god is really a god and seeks evidence for an alternative explanation. Turns out to be a really powerful alien.

Believers in science fiction: an incredibly powerful alien is worshipped as a God of sorts.

No need for an hour long lecture.

>>3682
Mha dki muhtafukca

If you have a god in a fictional setting that obviously exists, there is no reason to not believe in it. Worshiping it is another thing though, since some fictional gods are clearly evil.

I dislike it if people put atheists into setting like this because that just makes them look stupid and it feels like they are strawmanning real life atheists, which would imply that they believe that the existence of a real life god is obvious and undenyable, which just leads into more stupid territory.

>>3722
There was something I played not too long ago with a skeptic that ended up looking ridiculous, but can't recall what game it was. Got any examples of this effect?

>>3722
Like dragon age.

>>3722

Seconding this. Gods in fiction are not normally anything like gods in real life. They have an overt presence and are not all-powerful (frequently, they are bosses or even final bosses to be killed by the heroes).

Denying the existence of a god in a typical fantasy setting is not unlike denying the existence of lions in real life - they're right over there, just look at them you double nigger!

>>3661
or you can make Gods work like the primals in Final Fantasy XIV.

In that game a primal is worshiped as a God by a one of the "beastman" races and can take a corporal form when offered a large sacrifice of crystals.
It's Final Fantasy, it's always crystals.
once it has a physical form, a primal can "touch" a person and make them a unquestioning believer and worshiper. several of the beastman races have long repetitive grinds that have storylines about small groups of the races that tell you how bad the rest have become when they started worshiping their respective primal.

Players have have a blessing from the mother Crystal called the "echo" in our immune to being touched by a primal. The storyline for the game so far has been about finding a long-term solution to the problem of beast men summoning their prime roles as they often threaten human civilization.

Final Fantasy XIV does have a pantheon of gods that are worshiped by the human characters called "the 12." However, the almost never mentioned by characters except for occasionally saying "think the 12."

Letting your worldview affect your ability to enjoy fiction is SJW bullshit.

>>3640
No. Gods often make for vibrant and interesting mythology.

>>4037
Well you don't really 'need' them to create an interesting mythology, but they do add some vibrancy to the world.

I can't take too many stories seriously the farther they stray from reality and a deity is a quick way to get there.