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55bf03 No.374

Any non-white atheists in here? Just curious how others deal with being a non-believer. Personally, I'm black and left a cult at the age of 21. When I tell other black people about how I left the JW's, they are sympathetic then ask: So what do you believe in now? I tell them I'm atheist and they flip the fuck out.

Just wondering how other people deal.

ef318c No.375

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>>374
Mixed breed here. Never really liked the idea of there being a god as a legitimate reason as to how and why things happen— I never got religion pushed onto me by my single mother. My nignog father preached that kind of stuff to me implying I adopted Christianity. That was until I just flat out told him I don't believe in his god. As I was young, I didn't pull up a very good debate, but I wanted to make up for that by actually learning over time how to explain why it's completely unnecessary to have a religion, or believe in a god and do something that actually benefits humanity.
Er, sorry for the blog. But if you're asking for the reactions people normally get when I tell them I'm atheist, it's that they either agree or don't care/don't open up for debate. Apathetic folk.
Personally, I find it really annoying when people imply the presence of higher powers as an excuse to get away with whatever bias they want to push on people.

1baf23 No.392

White guy here, just posting here to ask: what it was like being in the Jehova's Witnesses?

52eaa9 No.403

>>392

Interesting, because it actually varies by the culture. While they pride themselves in being a worldwide organization that believes the same doctrine, there is actually a spectrum of traditions and conservatism among them. My experience in a majority black congregation has been different from a black childhood friend who moved to a rural majority white congregation.

Holidays for example. We are well known for not following "pagan" holidays. So obviously Christmas and birthdays are consistently a no-no. But for secondary holidays like New Year's and wedding anniversaries, I took part in, but my friend was scolded for it. My congregation, a majority poor congregation, encouraged its youth to go to college or at least trade school. But my friend was called "worldly" (an insult for JW's) for wanting to go to college. (They're scared of being taught evolution). Even when I went to a Spanish speaking territory with Latinos, their attitude toward drinking was much more lax than the black congregations, and especially the rural white ones.

At the end of the day, I left for strictly ideological reasons. My friend left because she was being abused and the congregation either ignored her or blamed her for it. So there's a variance.

It does suck though, knowing that the ones who claimed to love you will literally shun you if you change your beliefs. That's consistent no matter where you are.

e1b9c9 No.416

Native American atheist here. None of my peers care.

52eaa9 No.420

>>416

Cool. Are most of the also atheist or just non-nagging religious?

3e87f6 No.425

Probably the only if not part of the few beaner atheists alive, grew up with catholic parents, somewhere along my teenage years, I called bullshit on creationism.

e1b9c9 No.426

>>420
About half and half.

a6f3f4 No.480

>>374
Black atheist her, I know am a rare bread, what's up anon.

8b6ea0 No.492

>>374>Indian
>Ex-hindu
>Lost faith at 12
>Starting doubting the faith at 8

I've probably seen the worst of religion. My family is upper caste(brahmin). My grandma is a preacher-esque.
My dad is well versed in astrology.

I've seen some serious shit. That's why my blood boils when SJWs turn atheism advocacy into a joke.

When somebody says religion is harmless i get a impulsive need to strangle him.

1baf23 No.537

>>492
Why don't you tell us your story then? Too scarring?

b65358 No.574

>>537

What this anon said. I'd really like to know.

52eaa9 No.588

>>492
I wanna know too

12af40 No.589

Another black atheist here. My parents are immigrants but I was born in the US. I laugh at the Blacks in the US with ancestors who were slaves but still lub them some jesus.

e18e53 No.600

>>589
Unless your native American or some version of Native. it is guaranteed for you to be immigrant.

55b9bf No.609

Chilean mestizo here. People still look me with a weird face when they ask me what religion i am and i say i'm a non-believer.

d0bd85 No.639

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Beaner here. Honestly it's not a big deal for me because my family is what you would call culturally Catholic. Yea, I had to do a first communion, but after that the only time I went to church was for Christmas or Easter. I told my mother I was a godless heathen, it was somewhat anticlimactic, thankfully. I tried talking about why I did not view the bible as being a reliable source and she basically said I should probably try talking to a priest about it.

The rest of my family doesn't know, I haven't really told them since I didn't want to rock the boat. I figure I might tell my dad once I move out, I don't want to take the chance of having him kick me out because I don't believe in zombie jesus. He doesn't force me to go to church so I figure why bother bringing it up.

I still find it humorous how religious people can see through religious bullshit, provided it is not their religion. I was watching TV with my grandmother when there was a commercial for a movie which depicted a terrorist giving a child a bomb to ambush some soldiers. She was horrified that some kid would kill himself for the sake of religion.
>"Why would anyone do such a thing? How could a parent let their child die like that?"
>"Well they believe in jihad, they think they will be rewarded in paradise."
>"But why would they believe something so silly? Don't they realize they are being manipulated into giving up their lives?"
>She is Catholic
>Believes she will go to hell if she does bad things

mfw

b1d03e No.654

Puerto Rican. So I guess that's Hispanic?

6f3094 No.655

>>589
It really blows my mind how all the white colonists came to North America, brutally conquered the natives, took natives from other places as slaves, and propagandized to them so effectively that their descendants follow the religion of the conquerors. I mean, if you're a Mexican or an African-American, how can you praise Jesus knowing that?

1b0447 No.806

>>654
>brown
>western hemisphere
>south of canada
Yep, that's Hispanic.

1b0447 No.807

>>655
Mexican and African-American people are all mixed with Europeans to some extent. They're just adopting the religion that survived. Not a lot of people going door to door telling you about the good news of Quetzalcoatl.

1b0447 No.808

>>600
Even the red Indian Americans were immigrants at one point. Unless your definition of native is "the first people to set foot on the land." But in that case, there were many many groups of people in the Americas, and there were many many wars in which land got taken over. It's entirely possible that when the Europeans arrived, there was no patch of land on those continents that still belonged to the first ethnic group to live on it.

921a2b No.978

>>374
This gif is lovely. Every race having fun in its own way. A progressive utopia.

f0af93 No.980

>>808

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Spreading_homo_sapiens_la.svg

Right you are anon, in fact the further north in the america's you go the more recent the people are. The current Inuit peoples actually reached east canada at around the same time as the vikings. As Native American ancestors moved into north america from russia they either pushed the tribe living there already to the south/east, interbred, or eliminated them completely. It's also why if you look at a linguistic map of north america the langauge families have such wide gaps in them:

http://www.cogsci.indiana.edu/farg/rehling/nativeAm/continent.gif

No one except afrians whose ancestry goes back tens of thousands of years can claim to be a "true" native.

8e4ad0 No.1012

Does Hispanic of 100% European ancestry count?

e75165 No.1018

Hispanic/beaner here. It sort of sucks being an atheist in the family because majority of my family are usually hyper-religious Catholics, so I get the weird looks as well as the gossip of sterotypical Mexican families have often put me in a bad light because I don't believe.

1b0447 No.1021

>>980
> the further north in the america's you go the more recent the people are
>the colder it is the longer it took people to settle there
Makes sense.

1b0447 No.1023

>>1012
You are both white and Hispanic. As far as non-white goes, you're Schrodinger's Ethnicity.

1c68d1 No.1083

>>425
mexicunt here, racially nordic though.

>>492
interesting background bro.
>When somebody says religion is harmless i get a impulsive need to strangle him.
don't! religion is obviously not harmless but there's a whole spectrum of religious insanity, and you can't fight stupidity with more stupidity

>>374
>So what do you believe in now? I tell them I'm atheist
I laugh at that kind of question, and the usual atheist answer seems inadequate IMO. atheists believe in a fuckton of things, they just don't believe in the existence of deities. closed-minded nutjobs seem to think atheism imply not being able to believe that 1+1=2 or that the Earth orbits the Sun, or maybe they fail to recognise those beliefs??

>>807
lel, true. Don't you follow the parole of our Lord Kukul-Kan?

52eaa9 No.1157

>>1083

>the usual atheist answer seems inadequate IMO. atheists believe in a fuckton of things, they just don't believe in the existence of deities.


I guess yeah, that is the truest answer to that type of question. I study some Eastern philosophies. And while I don't devote myself to it religiously, it's still helped me in keeping a grounded state of mind in life.

But again, the type of people who ask these questions aren't really interested in what you believe. Usually asked as a moral jumpoff.

ee6f02 No.1166

>>492
>SJWs
>Atheists

This is a joke, right?

atheism+ is the only time this happened and that did not turn out well.

d9319c No.1235

Half Filipino here. My dad is a white guy from Minnesota, my mom was born and raised in the Manila. My mom is uncomfortable with me being an atheist. She converted from Catholic to Baptist for my dad. She keeps trying to convince me to become a Buddhist, because "at least they have a religion."

Whenever someone in the family is sick, my mom asks me to pray for them. She knows that I'm an atheist, but she wants me to pray for the family.

I haven't even tried telling my dad. I'm open everywhere else.

1dcec7 No.1759

>>374

Latino. Lost faith around Middle School. I keep it mostly to myself, but my family knows.

de7bac No.7170

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Half filipino and white Californian here. My mom's side is not religious (which is unusual for filipinos I know,) so my aunt etc don't care much. Since we are filipino we have a million Catholic relatives and I don't tell them my views.

My American side is more religious though. They're Baptists who believe that everything bad comes from the devil. My Californian father divorced my mom and married a Kentucky Southerner so now he is even more religious and more of a bigot than before. The two have a feedback loop where they make each other more backwards as they talk. My dad commutes with coworkers that play gospel songs in the car, and he thinks I fell in with a bad crowd or read some books by Atheists. He doesn't understand that reading the bible turned me Atheist, and even though I've tried to explain it to him he gets upset.


a38ba0 No.7187

>>403

No birthdays? Where do you get your LEGOS from if there are no brthdays?


d94ef2 No.7962

>>374

Another white atheist here, but I'm pretty involved in the community here. We've got Minority Atheists of Michigan and Black Nonbelievers of Detroit. You should look for or start a group!


fc18df No.8100

>>374

Is it harder to atheist a non-white?


cae435 No.8102

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Canadian Paki here. Family doesn't give a shit, so my head is still firmly attached to my neck.

>>8100

White parents tend to be the most liberal, so in a sense it can be. Also, some apostates of religions like Islam have a pretty shitty time (I was relatively lucky).


c82d06 No.10741

Bump because I don't want to feel alone.


5d682d No.10746

>>10741

Why do you need other nonwhites atheist?


c82d06 No.10757

>>10746

Just a bit of a joke.

But seriously, I want to know why atheism seems more common in white people than other races. Is it more access to education, cultural, or another factor?


60742a No.10759

>>10757

At least for black people it was sometimes beneficial in the past. They could meet and form communities and whites couldn't say much against it because it was a christian thing.

But if you are rich then you probably don't want the social pressure and you want more liberty. You have access to education and different ideas. Your ideas about religion become less literal and more liberal.


000000 No.10761

>>374

Overseas Chinese atheist born in Indonesia, a super religious country where atheism is against the state philosophy, and therefore not recognized by the state. (It's like US with only Republicans in the government)

Their constitution defines "freedom of religion" as "freedom to choose one of the six state-approved religions". Yuck.

Unless atheists are pretending to be religious, atheists (and people with minority beliefs) face bureaucratic hurdles when it comes to registrations, marriage, death, etc. There's even one case where an openly atheist guy was lynched by neighbors, arrested by police, and charged with "blasphemy".

It's hard to find and meet other atheists since most of them are closeted (me included.) Atheists/agnostics are estimated to be as rare as 1 in 100,000.

My parents won't help me either. They are fundamentalist christians. Sucks to be here.


4faf1e No.10769

>>10761

How did you find out that there is no god?

Did you think you came up with it by yourself?


52dee1 No.10779

>>10761

Isn't Indonesia really Islamic?


68cbb2 No.10788

>>10761

I hope you get the oportunity to leave that country someday anon




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