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The rejection of belief in the existence of deities

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1198d8 No.38

How did you become an atheist?
Does your family know?

I'm especially interested in stories of exmuslims.

07da68 No.45

Eventually I just realized that the only thing that was holding my belief in god together was my fear that he would harm me if I stopped believing in him. I see god as a really confusing being who claims to be good but does all this fucked up shit.

1b9a40 No.46

For most of my life, I never thought about god at all, but my mother was a fundamentalist christian and spewed shit about the bible every once in a while. After high school, I had taken to browsing youtube to ease my boredom and take care of certain pressing matters.

I started hearing there was a conflict between evolution and the bible, which I did not know existed (the conflict)through all my years of schooling. I loved the sciences and I was curious as to what the issues may have been, so I started looking into them.

Issue was about validity of the bible vs what we know about science, specifically evolutionary science. In my personal studies, I had found that evolution was coherent and well-supported, so my curiosity grew even further. I began watching debates on the matter.

Evolutionists provide rational, reasonable testimonies and legitimate evidence. Creationists all argue like 5 year olds having a tantrum. My confusion slowly comes clear.

All my life, I was spoon fed things that my parents had spoon fed to them. They never ever stopped to question anything or think critically about anything, and their presupposed fallacies and distrust of knowledge resulted in their ignorance of the world around them.

I then began to realize that all the church events I had ever attended consisted of "bribes" in the forms of field-trips, raffles, food, etc. Missionaries target children because they're young, and the kids don't give a shit because "Hey! Free shit!". I was one of them.

I say "Fuck that" and begin looking around for any possible sane, plausible arguments for God. None exist. I notice how en-grained this bullshit is in the general populace, and how they use foist their dis-proven, wrongful shit. I take my rightful place as an Atheist, after I realize how wrong it is to be a theist. My alignment strengthens as I notice how all arguments for god stem from lies, logical fallacies, baseless presuppositions and have all been debunked….literally decades ago.

Then, for some reason we all wear fedoras, even thought I've yet to see any of us actually wear fedoras. The End.

dc6142 No.47

>>38
I used to hold onto dualisim as my "proof" that there was a god. One day, I just came to the realization that as little as I understood about how the brain works, changing the brain's structure will still change the "soul". At that point, I just realized that without a need for a soul, all other things that I had been holding onto were useless. It all fell apart over the timespan of about a day.

07da68 No.53

>>45
Whoops, I must have been fucking tired when I wrote that because I forgot to say that im not exactly atheist, but agnostic. Sorry for looking like a self important cunt by typing this, I just want to be consistent.

3996b2 No.65

>>53
You are an agnostic atheist.Atheist is a person who lacks belief in a god,and a agnostic is a person who doesn't know if a god exists,they are not exclusive.

cd0d41 No.69

I wrote a long ass blog post about my life and lost it all.
The short of it is
>dad got evangelical degree at liberty university
>we move back to home state go to church my mom and grandparents were founding members of in the 70s
>mom and grandparents have pictures of breaking ground, it has become a decent sized church but parents are very well respected there.
>the 40 some year old pastor was deathly afraid of having his job taken away by the late 20s "college educated" and longtime member of church
>basically tells father to fuck himself and to back off
>parents leave church (im around 12 at the time) and for several years hop from church to church and the whole family eventually stops going altogether

Fast forward to about 2 years ago
>2 best friends, lifelong friends.
>one nonreligious his whole life and joined non denominational church group at his college maybe a year before.
>one devout religious friend

>religious friend and I driving around, he goes on a rant about how there is no evolution, only adaptation

>i kinda just brush him off, but thought they were the same exact thing so I do some research
>other buddy quits nondenominational church group out of the blue and becomes the militant atheist.

With the combination of me finding how logical baseline evolution really is, and my buddy going all out with the militant shit pointing out flaws and contradictions I quit calling myself christian.

It had been more than a decade since I went to church anyways, so it wasnt like I was a real christian.

The more I look into religious points of views with an open (and atheist biased) mind the stronger I feel aswell.

ccf172 No.2798

Reading the bible myself and asking too many questions.

11ecb2 No.2807

Thought about the concept of god, realized there was zero evidence for it.

Parents don't care

f38d6a No.2812

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Honestly I don't think I ever believed, at least not as an adult.

My family was pretty typical for modern standards. Going to Church pretty sporadically. Sometimes we would make it every week and sometimes we just where to busy or lazy and went months without going. I actually liked going because we usually went out to eat after lel. My dad is actually very religious, but he mostly keeps it to himself, just will read the Bible or watch ewtn.

First time I came to really think was around highschool/confirmation. I pushed the doubts out of my head. I knew I didn't agree with 90% of the Bible or found it very immoral or totally incomprehensible, i.e how are you able to safely assume gensis is "metaphorical" or allegoric". And what does that actually mean? How are you able to interpret the correct meaning out of it and why the hell doesn't God just put that in the Bible. Why be so damn cryptic about everything. Your making the most important book in mankinds history, not some art house film. Furthermore whats the metaphor in smashing children against rocks, or slaughtering the canaanites, or a dozen other things. But worst of all was the doctrine of salvation, I was friends with several irreligious kids at school and even a Muslim(who was totally Americanized) this horrified me that they would go likely to hell when I found them to be totally decent chumps. Not sure what kind of mental gymnastics I pulled but I still Identified as a Christian. It was some combination of watering the meaning of the Bible down, Cherry picking, and just not thinking about it too much. So for the rest of high school I kept it mostly out of my mind.

Once college came around my doubts once again resurfaced. Most of my room mates weren't religious even half heatedly mocked religion all though as much as most of you(and me) faggots do. I came to apologetics. I watched whatever I could. But even though I was too afraid to read the counter arguments. Sometimes I would even skip the Atheist segments of debates. I knew this was bullshit because I acted like that. To this day I think the great argument against God is, well that people say "God works in mysterious ways". That phrase says it all in my opinion. IF there really was a God who cared for us and wanted a personal connection then we wouldn't need all this song and dance.

Any way. I pretty much knew that heaven and hell was the only thing keeping me in line, once I realized that it all fell apart. In one day I went from identity as a Christian to an Atheist. Although the pressure had been building up for years, and honestly I don't think deep down I ever truly believed. If you would have pointed a gun at me and asked my what I truly believed I probably would have abandoned my 'faith' pretty quick.

So here I am. I Godless Fedora tipping faggot. I've only told a few friends, haven't told my parents yet. Somedays I can be pretty reasonable and understand the religious point of view, after all many brilliant people have been religious and to disregard them is incredibly arrogant. But others days I think that all Christians are moronic, it is just a mess of ideas that are messy already individually(i.e omnipotence), become contradictory and absurd when put together and downright unbelievable when put against evidence from the real world.Sorry for the blog, but I kinda like to vent about this stuff.

17abf5 No.2855

>>2812
>But worst of all was the doctrine of salvation, I was friends with several irreligious kids at school and even a Muslim(who was totally Americanized) this horrified me that they would go likely to hell when I found them to be totally decent chumps.
I think one of the earliest cracks in my faith was reading something about John Lennon being an atheist and wondering if that meant he was in Hell and then asking myself if I would be okay with that or wanted to support a God who would do that to someone just because they didn't believe in him. I think this sort of doctrine is definitely easier to put over when Christianity goes largely uncontested so that most people don't actually have to think about what individuals their doctrine is sentencing to hell.

c8b2d8 No.2861

>>2855
For me it bothered me that so many bright men who we look up to like galieo, einstein, and Thomas Jefferson were deitists at best or possibly closet atheists. If these wiser men couldn't see the truth in Christian nations, i thought maybe I should listen to the opposing arguments more. It also bothered me when I went to the south east asia or Japan and met nice people who would go to hell because they were not Christian. (Ditto for the native americans.)

a74b16 No.2872

>>2855
>John Lennon being an atheist and wondering if that meant he was in Hell
I used to get mad at people about the song "Imagine" and would tell them that John Lennon was in Hell. Later on that song would really make me consider my motivations for defending what I believed. When I started to think about life without assuming a religion, it stopped making sense to believe the religion.

67d84e No.3334

It oddly enough evolved out of UFO mysticism and conspiracy theorists.

A little less than a decade back, I was all about stuff like the Roswell crash, Area 51, alien abductions, and so on. I would have legit enjoyed History Channel's Ancient Aliens had it played back during my UFO craze.

One of the sites I frequently visited was made and hosted by an outspoken atheist. I never really had much of an opinion on religion either way being Unitarian so as far as I was concerned God could exist or not and it wouldn't affect me. Half of my family was ultra-religious but it all never quite clicked with me. I was more interested in science and UFOs.

After reading stuff and watching documentaries on ancient aliens I was convinced that all of the gods mankind worshipped were likely just humans misinterpreting aliens. There was no God, only advanced lifeforms from beyond the Moon.

And that sort of mindset stuck for a while. Eventually I joined an art site and found some fellow atheists there. One of them was a staunch skeptic of a lot of religion but conspiracy based stuff as well. I've debated him but ultimately we both were unable to change our minds.

Over time however, I became less trustworthy of other conspiracy stuff. I could not buy the whole 9/11 truth thing nor could I buy cryptozoology. . More and more things became completely irrational and though I wasn't a fan of the fact, many of my own beliefs were lumped in with bullshit.

More time passed and I lost interest in things related to aliens and UFOs. I became more interested in debating against the existence of God or proving actual science against bullshit.

It may sound odd but there wasn't a point in time I can remember no longer believing conspiracy UFO stuff but I can say there's a general point where I was finally willing to say all of it was bunk.

Technically I suppose you can say I was already an atheist from the start of the story and I could have left it there. After all, there's nothing about atheism that contradicts the idea that aliens visit Earth on a regular basis and abduct people. However, my atheism then was based on a completely false premise and for the sake of clarity, I think knowing the whole story paints a better picture.

e7e16b No.13942

>>3312

Early third wave (not current wave which is the fourth in some Yuropian classifications) male pro feminist currently inactive not from the USA (where I live equal pay was still a problem as late as the early 90's) reporting.

Finding a reasonable feminist with some power and exposure is like trying to find a mildly reasonable muslim with strong media presence in the west. You won't find one (Maybe based mom but I haven't read her work, my sources say it's outdated on some points but ok). If this reads like ideological suicide, it isn't. Feminism like atheism is just a collection of different individuals, philosophies and different sets of beliefs that happens to have some points in common. It just happens that such denomination often calls for unsavory individuals.

-Simplistic view- Popular works with inflamatory, radical and (incredible but true) outdated and thrice refuted rethoric mostly erupted from some heavy works in really oppressed countries like Nigeria in the 60's and absorbed most of the studies and rethoric of the invisible other (lesbian, black, woman) gaining popularity in the US using the footholds that more reasonable feminists gained, propelled by polliticians searching for votes since the 80's using the excuse of pollitical correctness (that serious left academics disregard for the same reasons Terry Eagleton did, that he considered the widespread movement of PC to be a trick engineered to give small bones to opposition while impeding true change, basically predicting current SJWs 40 years before they happened). Such ideas appeal to young women who know nothing of the movement and /do not, will not/ read works or ideas outside of their mother tongue and comfort sphere.

There are also authors that transitioned from reasonable ideas and brilliant insights to distinct levels of crazyness (Julia Kristeva IMO, as well as half the French circle), and some people suspect they were sabotaged in the US using CIA infiltration methods (which would explain the rapid decline of feminist postures in this country).

The niggresses and niggas that deal with real work and facts are exactly doing that, going to communities that have strong poblems, publishing mostly neutral papers that have undergone a thousand and one revisions, studying, and trying to improve conditions for everyone, not just women (a few years back, we sent a proposal to my country's congress for a new law that would allow widowers to inherit partial pensions from their wives, not just if they were economically inferior, and another to allow divorced men to see their children a minimum of hours regardless of custody unless they presented criminal behaviour or were proven to be damaging to their kids or ex this to be demonstrable in front of a jury). Meanwhile the fucknuts that basically don't fact check their shit (doing so would be insta death) and use sex and corruption to advance academically and bring people similar to them upwards gained power everywhere.

There were and still are objections presented to them but you won't see them outside of non advertised congresses, their programs are few and produce results normally after years of work (dealing with social problems is agonizingly slow) while other disciplines are frankly more attractive for budget distribution, and when they show some promise radicals do whatever they can to shut them off. I can't even remember which feminist congress Ms Sarkeesian had closed as there were cathedratics doing harsh criticism of her works in the same university she was going to give a "lecture", that should tell you enough.

For the niggas interested on how to have a reliable detection system that differentiates the good ones from the bad ones, I have a very decent method that is easy to use and maybe dissapointingly quick. Take it from this post if you want to disregard the rest.

If feminist comes from a solid background in linguistics, sociology, (in some cases) history or psychiatry fields b4 entering the movement, or remains heavily related to these fields afterwards and in either case has some peer recognition because of it give 30% more creed. This is where you want to go for gender studies to be properly managed, and to have a decent discussion about it. Note: lately linguistics has fallen in level, so check first.

If feminist comes from any of the following =communications, pollitics, economic sciences, liberal arts, and (in some cases) philosophy; BEWARE.= This also applies to most people with unknown backgrounds like internet celebrities that may be riding this tendency because either gullibility or PC bullcrap.


e7e16b No.13943

>>13942

Sorry, wrong thread. Don't know how to delete post. I'll proceed to commit honorable sudoku




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