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Anonymous 03/19/15 (Thu) 02:28:28 No.4627

What is /atheism/'s opinions on transhumanism?

Anonymous 03/19/15 (Thu) 02:43:29 No.4629

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Full speed ahead. We should work overcome our humanity as soon as possible.

Anonymous 03/19/15 (Thu) 03:21:57 No.4635

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>>4629
This

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Anonymous 03/19/15 (Thu) 06:22:30 No.4675

The only thing I fear about transhumanism is sub-par quality of materials used and overpopulation. Otherwise, Choo-choo, motherfucker!

Anonymous 03/19/15 (Thu) 06:38:05 No.4681

Science isn't perfect, and while mother nature isn't either, I fear the catastrophic mistakes that could potentially be made, and I'd want to wait this out.

But for something more simple like cybernetics, as long as not all of this shit is built in china, fuck yes, give me cybernetic eyes so I can see more colors at choice, have night vision, and not even need a laptop anymore. As long as the hardware and software is open source, the sky's the motherfucking limit.

Anonymous 03/19/15 (Thu) 09:16:07 No.4702

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>>4681
>Free augments are augments that respect the users freedom. There are 4 essential freedoms that a cyborg needs to have. Freedom 0 is to use their augments in what ever way they like. Freedom 1 is to study the design of their augments. Freedom 2 is to modify their augments if they choose to do so. Freedom 3 is to be able distribute modified versions of your augments if you want to go that far. If you lack one of these essential freedoms, your augment is a proprietary augment. Proprietary augmentations should not exist.

Anonymous 03/19/15 (Thu) 15:26:35 No.4725

Nature is fucked up. Intelligence is destructive to the balance of nature. Lions kill their own babies to speed up the lionesses becoming fertile again. With intelligence, the evolutionary incentive to reproduce trumps the reproduction. Not that evolution is intelligent or god-driven, but it does move towards a balance. For thousands of years nature has had humans dying young from diseases and now that balance is shifting.

So I guess transhumanism can be good and bad, or both at the same time. It's great that people improve their quality of life and lifespan but it also comes at a cost that often goes unconsidered. Humans are part of nature.

Anonymous 03/19/15 (Thu) 16:55:35 No.4730

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>>4627
What could go wrong?

Anonymous 03/19/15 (Thu) 19:58:11 No.4746

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>>4681
>implying the mistake isn't waiting
Undirected evolution produces more flaws than design.

I think the trust is misplaced, not intervening in nature doesn't produce the best results for our interests. If what was natural was good the naturalistic fallacy wouldn't exist.

>>4702
In Stallborg I trust.

Anonymous 03/20/15 (Fri) 07:43:56 No.4815

Inevitable. It's going to be a slow thing though. Right now we've got people with pacemakers and people with prosthetic arms and people with neural implants for shit like palsy.

Fuck, look at Hotwheels. He gets around in a wheelchair and uses grabbers. That's a really early version of transhumanism

As people find legitimate medical purposes for various technologies, they're going to get adopted because there will be people who choose to have them. The "muh playing god" factor won't come into it. I mean look at trans people. There are doctors giving physically female people fake penises for the sake of easing their psychological distress. Nobody is stopping that. Who the fuck is going to stop someone from buying super duper legs or whatever?

Anonymous 03/20/15 (Fri) 07:46:03 No.4817

>>4675
>>4681
Once we have consciousness uploading, you can just back up your mind in case shit goes down. Storage is already cheap as fuck compared to the value of your personality.

Anonymous 03/20/15 (Fri) 14:11:48 No.4821

Someday the Olympics will have to decide what modifications are permisible. We might need to make an Transhumanism Olympics where modifications are fine.

In sci-fi nanotech can cure any ailment, and can provide internal computers to help starship operators navigate a trans-dimensional void on another dimension which is exciting. You could also program yourself to do automatic boring tasks, freeing your mind to think about other things while you cook, commute, or wash the car.

Anonymous 03/20/15 (Fri) 17:37:52 No.4844

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>>4817
>consciousness uploading
This is could be impossible, our consciousness is tied to a set of neural circuits so breaking those would probably cause the permanent death of the consciousness, not like the temporary "loss" during concussions, etc. It might be possible to hotswap neurons with modified neurons or nanomachines gradually but even then.

The worst part is how will we know after the procedure if it's your consciousness or just an exact copy?

However I've been thinking of isolating the neural correlates of consciousness and transplanting the tissue into a bioreactor feeding ATP to the circuit with some kind or neural interface. The cells might need some transmembrane protein changes to optimize the rate of transport of extracellular ATP as the mitochondria would be useless. From this you can command a robot so you'll never have to risk your life by going outside.

Anonymous 03/20/15 (Fri) 20:56:02 No.4869

>>4817
You are still going to die meatbag.

A copy of your mind would just be copy, all you'll get is a machine that thinks it's you.

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