/atheism/ - Atheism

Here's mine. For the record though I am a racist misogynist that thinks gays have a mental disorder. You can have leftist political leanings and righty social tendencies.

Purple zone here, very close to the bottom.

>>500
What do the numbers mean?

>>503
Pretty sure those people are authoritarian right.

It's funny since leftism is a rehash of Christinsanity minus the dead kike on a stick though he can still be there.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/egalitarianism/
>So far as the Western European and Anglo-American philosophical tradition is concerned, one significant source of this thought is the Christian notion that God loves all human souls equally.

>That according to the Bible, no Christian is entitled to hold any property whatever exclusively for himself; that community of property is the only proper state for a society of Christians; that it is not allowed to any good Christian to have any authority or command over other Christians, nor to hold any office of government or hereditary power, but on the contrary, that, as all men are equal before God, so they ought to be on earth also.
>Frederick Engels: Progress of Social Reform On the Continent

>All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all. There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.
>Acts 4: 32-35

Classical Liberal, or Minarchist.

ok then

neat

I'm libertarian left.

For the record, I identify as a Rawlsian civic nationalist.

I'm becoming more and more authoritarian, hooray.

It's in spanish but is the same shit

eco: -8.75
social: -9.03

I'm the most left/bottom of this thread so far. The worst part is that I live in a very conservative state.

I'm not a SJW

Libtard reporting in.

Did this a year ago. Probably about the same now

Still have this from a GG poll thread.

I'm of the opinion that people end up on the opposite sides of where they perceive society to be.

>>489
>atheism is a leftist ideal
isn't the left/right distinction mostly concerned with political economy rather than belief or lack thereof in deities?

the left/right thing isn't a very well defined concept anyway.

I guess the minimally educated population knows that lumping a/theism and politics together is a poor move used to spread as much fear to secularism and irreligion as possible, so what's the point in proving to us atheists that this is not true?

I really doubt any of you genuinely think atheism and leftism are conceptually related.

>buying into the left/right paradigm
NatSoc reporting in.

>>1056
and my chart: mostly anarchistic tendencies in the political axis, and ideologically rightist on the economic sense, though on practice I would fall horizontally centered and maybe slightly left-leaning because I do not trust current humanity with a totally free market.

>>570

Now there's a Bible passage I bet gets ignored a lot.

The Christians I've meet like all the easy to do ones.

Romans 10:9-10

9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.

They love this. Just shout "I love Jesus" and you are saved and you get to keep your house and place in the social hierarchy.

>>489
Wow. I'm actually pretty balanced… And I pretty much said fuck the faggots and the immigrants, too.

>>1325
>He actually thinks American politics tends right-wing.

Have you ever read a history book son?

>>2208
>"progress"
this

>>2386
>The knowledge and reasoning you talk about in your second sentence here are precisely in the same category as the "core beliefs" you claim don't necessarily affect one's positions.
Core values and beliefs are axioms. Opinions on a particular issue are the conclusions. Specific knowledge, received arguments, and original thinking are the logical process that connects the two. Someone who can't see the distinction between the first and third would have to be jumping to conclusions all the time.

>forming ideas with reference to a whole, as opposed only to particulars,
This isn't what I'm arguing. I pointed out that ignoring the details by plotting political opinion on a spectrum according to values is only using the information least open to change in a person. That isn't even the central point; it's a detail of the process, which exacerbates the central point.

>we need to think of the former more as means/tools in service of the latter, as opposed to ends in themselves
My opinion is that the only ends are the effects on the wellbeing of sentient creatures. The constructs we're talking about are all tools and can never be ends in themselves.

>My whole contention is that there does not exist an authentic or substantive right-wing movement in the United States.
Did you miss the entire Tea Party thing?

>The GOP is marginally to the right of the Democrats and will inexorably shift further left as time progresses.
Again, the Tea Party. Was that a leftward shift? Was that not a shift on the spectrum? If it's neither of those two, it was a shift to the right.

>If these are the super evil Christian fascists that everyone's scared of changing legislation to fit their religion, I'm not seeing the big fuss.
I think the original claim here was that American politics are bounded by the upper right quadrant. Yeah. >>1325
There aren't a lot of people or politicians in the US who are in favor of, say, communal guardianship of children. Not a lot of people actively campaigning for the abolition of private property. The people who have leftward opinions like that are seen as loonies by almost everyone, and they don't have any kind of place in the government. Rather, the people with power tend toward central control and the consolidation of wealth (I fucking wonder why). See: the Patriot Act and what followed with spying through Facebook et al, "nation-building" wars that have cost trillions of dollars, large tax cuts for the extremely wealthy, bailouts of massive corporations, the war on drugs (largely responsible for the US having the world's highest incarceration rate), and sporadic military intervention in various foreign countries when they're not doing what we want.

>Gay marriage was legalized with minimal challenge in several states
>minimal challenge
It was made explicitly illegal in some states, including California.

>Abortion and divorce remained common and increasingly acceptable and approved behaviors
Abortion has become less available very recently. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States#State-by-state_legal_status
Divorce rates are also lower now than in recent history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_in_the_United_States#Rates_of_divorce


>Absolutely no substantive moves were made to secure the American border or get a handle on immigration
Obama has deported more people to Mexico than Bush did. The border is too long to effectively secure. This isn't a political issue; It's a practical one.

>Spending and debt only increased exponentially.
Mostly due to the aforementioned wars, tax cuts for the people who pay most of the taxes, and propping up obsolete industry.


You're ignoring any evidence that contradicts your beliefs. No wonder you don't understand the difference between core values/beliefs and specific knowledge about individual issues.

Libertardian master race

My opinion is that people who are genuinely supportive of a government based on rights and liberties end up in the green box. Conservatives are rights based when it's convenient for them and utilitarian when they disagree with something. For example, they argue for gun ownership with rights, but they argue against homosexuality with utilitarianism. The US constitution is implicitly non-utilitarian.

Whats not pictured here is that I believe some things that liberals would find especially grotesque.

Huh… For a racists confederate, I guess I'm a pretty balanced guy…