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bc180f No.5150

Not to shit on fellow Atheists, but I hate it when other atheists say this:

>I'm not like all of THOSE atheists, who feel the need to shit on other people's beliefs.


>Forgets that Atheists are shit on (in America) almost all the time by religious people without anyone giving a shit.



Every time I've heard someone say that it's like they go out of their way to appease someone who is religious. I at least understand why religious people think Atheists are always attacking them, they're standing at the other side of the fence, but Atheists? Openly atheist people especially should know better.

Is there anything else that you've heard other atheists say that annoy you?

0fb426 No.5158

Two can play this game:
>I'm not like all of THOSE religious people, who feel the need to feel morally superior and convince people of my beliefs

Also, it's obvious that you are a religious person and I'll tell you why. Religious people take the slightest criticism in their religion as bashing, no matter how well you say it, it's bashing. I mean fucking come on, we got christians and islamists who grew for more than 20 years repeating their prayers every day, every single day they try to convince themselves "yes I believe in god". And then an atheist who criticizes any single thing about that is seen as bad because they are basically saying "dude, you were wrong about this all your life". And as heart breaking as it is it's just true, religious people do not want criticism. I say, well that's too bad, everyone gets criticized.

It's bashing only because people feel personally offended for it, why should you avoid talking about people's religion? Why is that such a special snowflake that causes instant butthurt? Because they can't take it, they will not cope that what they lived so far is actually a lie, so they corner themselves and try to say you are offending them and an asshole.

I'm sorry to say but you're an obvious spiritual person in disguise trying to say that atheists should not criticize people because it's rude. Well it's fucking not, it's only rude because people don't want to admit they are wrong. When someone asks me about my beliefs I'm not triggered and I won't tell them that they are bashing me, I just respond appropriately and talk with the person.

And also, it's bad for religion to get special treatment when it comes to opinions, it's the single thing that people feel like it should be shielded from criticism, unlike other things.

fad29e No.5163

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>I'm not like all of THOSE atheists, who feel the need to shit on other people's beliefs.
This attitude disgusts me, it's like they think they are morally superior for tolerating people's beliefs in fairytales. By my morality they are morally inferior since they allow for irrationality to persist unchallenged. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men [and women] to do nothing.

You don't even have to bring up the fact that atheists are bashed by the other side.

>>5158
Just a few details, OP could be a religious person in disguise but so could you and from you perspective so could I.

Anyway, you can still be offended by irrational criticism, like when religious people criticize atheism they aren't criticizing it through logic and that can be off putting. So actually in all cases where religious people criticize atheism they can be bashing. However unless an atheist is Hitchslapping or going off the deep end the argument is based only logic, no intent to offended and not illogical (there are illogical atheists), and if the religious idiot get offended over that, that's because they're devote and don't want to hear the lack of evidence they have for their beliefs.

Also OP never said he feels all criticism of religion is bashing, just that both sides "shit on" each other. I would say bashing is specific kind of criticism where you just attack something to dismantle it, the level of emotional response or logic doesn't matter. So there is logical bashing like Hitchslaps and irrational bashing like what religious idiots say about atheism.

bc180f No.5167

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OP here.

>>5158


>Religious people take the slightest criticism in their religion as bashing, no matter how well you say it, it's bashing.


I agree.

>religious people do not want criticism. I say, well that's too bad, everyone gets criticized.


Agreed

>It's bashing only because people feel personally offended for it, why should you avoid talking about people's religion? Why is that such a special snowflake that causes instant butthurt? Because they can't take it, they will not cope that what they lived so far is actually a lie, so they corner themselves and try to say you are offending them and an asshole


Yeah, true. For the most part, anyway.

>I'm sorry to say but you're an obvious spiritual person in disguise


LOL WAT

>trying to say that atheists should not criticize people because it's rude


I never said this.

I don't think you read my post properly, anon. Try rereading. If that doesn't work, here's a clarification:

I get tired of hearing Atheists suck up to religious people even though most religious people will bash atheists for almost no reason. Where I live, I've heard people literally (and I mean literally) compare Atheists to child molesters and rapists, yet some of my atheist friends get mad when I call them ignorant and foolish for thinking that.

When I said:

>I'm not like all of THOSE atheists, who feel the need to shit on other people's beliefs.


I'm basically paraphrasing something I've heard a good few atheists say as a way to distance themselves from other atheists. They're so wrapped up in trying to respect people's beliefs (much of which don't deserve their respect) that they're completely blind to the blatant disrespect atheists get on a daily basis for little to no reason.


Does that help at all?

cfb8c4 No.5170

I started off trying to be respectful, but I get why frustration boils over when you hear a lot of demeaning insults from a majority group that thinks they are being persecuted.

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44ccc1 No.5181

>>5167
>
>I'm basically paraphrasing something I've heard a good few atheists say as a way to distance themselves from other atheists. They're so wrapped up in trying to respect people's beliefs (much of which don't deserve their respect) that they're completely blind to the blatant disrespect atheists get on a daily basis for little to no reason.

>Does that help at all?


Yes, apparently I misunderstood your post.

e39052 No.5188

Alright I'll play your game:

>I'm not like all of THOSE atheists, who feel the need to shit on other people's beliefs.


Getting mad at persecution and being assholes to the other party is what SJW's do. You can see how that turns out. People misunderstand them, and more fighting happens than anything, no one gets convinced, and a bigger rift is made.

I have anger towards christians, but fuck, these people have been intensively mentally conditioned to think how they do. I can't really lash out at someone who doesn't realize how their acting is unjustified.

e39052 No.5190

>>5188
Adding to this, keep in mind, attacking chistianity is still a good thing to do, It's just I don't want to do it like SJW's do.

fad29e No.5192

>>5190
SJW's are soft. Hitler had the right idea with the Jews though his thing was ethnic and not purely religious.

>>5188
>have been intensively mentally conditioned to think how they do
This is why.

44ccc1 No.5196

I just want to say this basically, religion should be criticized like everything else and should not be put on a moral high ground. We can always behave ourselves when it comes to discussing other things, so people should learn to not take offense so easily. Unless it's a direct attack on person of course.

e39052 No.5199

>>5192
Perhaps I misunderstood you, but religious people can be converted, or at the very least become more lenient with their beliefs. Tell me, how is wanting to kill off religious people make us that much better than those radislamists in the middle east? Let me guess, it's because we're on the right path?

Wanting to kill off religious people isn't going to do us any favors, if anything it makes you look like an extremist and gets us seen as similar to muslims.

fad29e No.5212

>>5199
I just jumped in.

>how is wanting to kill off religious people make us that much better than those radislamists in the middle east?

We'd be killing to eliminate irrationality as they are a great source of it, they kill because their magical skywizard says so.

>it's because we're on the right path?

Moreso. We're definitely not contradicting evidence to prove our books right when it comes to religious matters. Can't talk about politics as some atheists believe in funny things like we should be tolerant of religious people just because.

>if anything it makes you look like an extremist and gets us seen as similar to muslims.

Also realize killing isn't an innately religious thing to do, look at Jainism. Their extremists wouldn't hurt a fly.

Also Muslims wouldn't be so widespread if they didn't resort to violence. Their tactics are logical, what they believe in isn't.

e39052 No.5234

>>5212
Oh yes, making them believe by force. How noble of you. I hope you all are just fucking with me, I sincerely do.

fad29e No.5237

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>>5234
We can't make them believe by force or otherwise, silly.

fad29e No.5239

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>>5237
Or in this case not believe in these fairytales. Can't believe that slipped the first time.

97a3cf No.5361

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>being bothered when someone metaphorically shits on you
>not feeling smug because calling you a doo-doo head is literally all they know how to argue against you



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