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791f8e No.6824

Abortion is a boring topic, so let's go a step further. Personally, I think parents should be allowed to euthanize their newlyborn during a short period if they will suffer life-long disabilities. There's no sense in forcing a mother to take care of a retarded baby her whole life, or for people to be born with suffer debilitating pain. It also removes undesirables feom the gene pool. Since I don't believe in a soul, I don't think a newlyborn has a right to live just because it was born. I think the baby needs to show it can live a healthy life and have sentience, to earn the right to be cared for by a parent.

b5f927 No.6827

I mean, if we're talking about before it's born, then I would say yes. For the same reason that I would be in favor of divorce. I believe Louis C.K. said that "there was never a sad divorce." For the same reason, there really is never a sad abortion. (Except for in the case of rape or something. Though even in that case it would still be for the best.)

Now, if we're talking about an infant that has already been born, that's a little different. In the case of some sort of horrible incurable disease, maybe. In the case of "Oh I wanted a little girl" or "Aw, I didn't want a ginger" then I give a resounding NO.

95f28c No.6832

With a few exceptions (like horrible genetic disorders) pretty stupid. Eugenics decreases the genetic variation of humanity, which means that you run the risk of throwing away a genetic makeup which may have massive advantages in environmental scenarios we may not have anticipated

437666 No.6853

There are lots of people wanting to adopt babies, give it to them.

0b0d8a No.6865

>>6824
>Personally, I think parents should be allowed to euthanize their newlyborn during a short period if they will suffer life-long disabilities
Why not just abort them? Most disabilities can be checked for before they're born. Failing that I don't see a problem with putting someone out of their misery if they have some kind of crippling or painful disease they'd have for their entire lives (assuming they are not old enough to object and are objecting). But what's the legal criteria? There are already parents who kill their children for no good reason. There was a case I remember from a while ago where a mother killed her son because she thought he would be embarrassed because of his appearance.

Not that I like the slippery slope fallacy, but wouldn't this encourage parents to take a butcher's knife to their kid if they're left-handed or some shit?

0b0d8a No.6866

>>6853
Yeah, good luck finding adopting couples who want to adopt someone with a disability much less a lifelong debilitating illness.

Also, very much related
Archive: https://archive.today/hrprz
Nazi site: http://www.dailystormer.com/hotwheels-why-i-support-eugenics/
This is the article Hotwheels wrote on the subject. I like the proactive approach.

791f8e No.6868

>>6865
> I think you should be required to get a doctor's permission to be allowed to euthanize your kid in a hummane way. The doctor can vouch that there was an unhealthy condition. Parents shouldn't be allowed to flush their baby down a toilet for the silly reasons they do. We would also need to come up with guidelines for an age at which the parent could not legally kill their child.

0b0d8a No.6870

>>6868
Whom are you quoting?

791f8e No.6873

>>6870
>myself

580183 No.6876

>>6824
Think you mean euthanasia not eugenics. Eugenics is when you sterilize people with bad genes. Euthanasia is when you mercy kill the suffering.

791f8e No.6879

>>6876
They fit together well. If you support one you will probably support the other.

0b0d8a No.6880

>>6873
Where did you say that before? That text is not in this thread except here >>6868

Also this >>6876

95795d No.7239

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I'm all for it. Improving the environment is not enough to improve society, the quality of the population should also be improved.

> As the twenty-first century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits.

>Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction — a dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.

>>6832

>Eugenics decreases the genetic variation of humanity

Not all biodiversity is useful, a lot is deleterious or not as good. Considering technology and its implementation prevents its weeding out it's actually harmful not to have some form of artificial selection.

>which may have massive advantages in environmental scenarios we may not have anticipated

Huntington's will never be advantageous. There is plenty of variation this species would be better without. Such as alleles that result in reduced cognitive ability compared to its variants.

The only allelic diversity we should conserve code for functional immunological factors. And that can be done with a robust eugenics program, actually the program would have a better track record than with the absence of such population control as we are not under Hardy Weinberg Equilibrium conditions.


f84c1f No.7248

>>6879

That's quite the leap. Mercy killing or letting a parent decide whether or not they want their child with a serious birth condition to have to suffer their own existence is quite a bit different than force sterilization.

I support the former but the latter is a fundamental violation of liberty.




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