/atheism/ - Atheism

In this video a 30 something year old man attacks him when he went to court, really shows the mental maturity of people who think of themselves as moral. They think offending people is bad, but then they go and commit physical violence.

And in this blog of his, he was arrested for the last two articles, where he said that it's unfair for him to get arrested, and another one where he criticized his violent father

https://amosyee.wordpress.com/

Now I will post a few videos of people from Singapore saying that he deserved to be jailed for expressing an unpopular opinion. In this one, some manchild actually thinks he makes valid arguments by attacking his opinions from when he was a fucking kid.

Now in this one, some ultra faggot is actually very happy that someone who makes youtube videos is in prison, while ignoring the fact that some murderer, thief, rapist etc. should rather take his place. The ratings are mostly positive, because the people from Singapore are mindless drones as expected.

Here some pretentious cunts think they have a say because they sit in their fancy chairs and they are popular, as someone who works in the entertainment industry they should at least be the ones to support free speech, but nope. They say to not offend groups of people while at the same time not realizing that you will never ever please everyone, while someone doesn't get offended, someone else will. They should know better, but they don't.

And there are countless of comments from every cunt living in Singapore saying that it's totally fair for him to be jailed, I won't bother posting anymore, I feel like you get the point, a large group of people have their feelings hurt and they feel it's fair to ruin a person's life because of that and at the same time think they are superior in morality.

Why do I care about this so much? Am I from Singapore or what? And if I am not, how can I even comment on this since I don't live there? No, I am not from Singapore, I am from Romania and I like the taste of free speech after communism died in our country, when you couldn't voice what you thought without getting prosecuted, and I can comment on different beliefs and countries just like everyone else. I am sickened by all the things that happen in Europe, the muslims that ravage every country with their islamophobia stupid shit, and the feminists who think they make everything equal by treating men like shit. And I hate countries like these where the government tells you what to think and say. That is all, I hope you found this interesting.

More of a cultural issue than a religious one. But it is a shame. Singapore as a whole seems to value harmony more than individual freedom which is unfortunately pretty common in East Asia.

I don't know a whole lot about Singaporean law but I'm not sure how this could be considered justice.

>>7456

I don't know shit about Lee Kuan Yew but this kid sounds kind of tin foil-y.

>He just fools people into thinking he's democratic because he allows them to vote in elections

>He controls every aspect of the media, man!

>LOOK AT THIS ASSHOLE HAVING PICTURES OF HIMSELF IN HIS BOOKS! WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS?

Still, imprisoning him does pretty much confirm his point.

Oh another reason I dont like Singaporeans is they use Singlish. The grammar is so messed up it sounds like a pidgin english. Try to make sense of this gibberish.

http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/singaporeseen/this-urban-jungle/amos-yee-slapped-police-arrest-49-year-old-man

They also swear a lot and seem pretty crude.

This really is more about political than religion, he could have used any analogy people are attacking him over his politics not because talked dirty about Christianity

>>7466

The Singaporean government doesn't like it either. I think it's kind of charming.

The comments section of any news site is a cesspool, let's not pretend it's indicative of a whole country.

>>7468

I thought it was charming for a day until it quickly gave me a headache in any conversation. If you think it's hard to read what they write online, wait until you hear their British-Chinese accents coupled with the bad grammar you see on any Singapore forum. Then there's the pointless casual swearing every few sentences by young people that doesn't even convey any emotion, which is the only spice on their boring topics of conversation.

>>7469

I have no love for Singapore or anything but that doesn't sound too much different from American youth. All im sayin.

>Teenage blogger Amos Yee's mother brought him to the Institute of Mental Health to see a psychiatrist on April 3. But after two sessions, the 16-year-old refused to go anymore, it was revealed in court on Wednesday.

http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/courts-crime/story/amos-yees-mother-took-his-son-see-psychiatrist-he-stopped-after-tw

thanks singapore, I bet people feel much safer now that this kid will stay in nail

>>7474

in jail*

>>7463

He didn't criticize the culture, he criticized the christian religion so I'd say it is a religious problem.

>>7476

Christianity was only used as an analogy, most of his video has about politics

This kid knows a lot for a 17 year old though. I find it funny how his mom took him to a psychiatrist when he was 16. It's like she couldn't deak with his pov.

This is his last video which probably got him in trouble. Notice that he doesn't use very much Singlish either.

>>7477

But they got him on criticizing chistianity.

>>7477

He did a video about criticizing christianity too, and that was also used to prosecute him.

>>7480

He made this video criticizing Christianity, in a country where only 16 % of the country are Christians ^ (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Singapore )

>>7478

It must be an Asian thing. There's nothing to indicate he has any kind of mental disorder. He's just outspoken.

From their perspective speaking out against authority figures and disobeying his parents is so unthinkable that he must be insane.

>>7482

>From their perspective speaking out against authority figures and disobeying his parents is so unthinkable that he must be insane.

Exactly, everyone there thinks he is insane and must be taken to doctors because he dared to criticize the government. Look at this video for example, they say he should be taken to a psychiatrist. Honestly, this kid seems to have more intelligence than most of his age, and people think he is insane. I'd argue that he's even smarter than most of 4chan posters.

>an adolescent is outspoken and rebellious

Stop the fucking presses everyone.

>>7483

I think 4chan posters are of average intelligence honestly. Same thing with the other ero/porn boards. Still, this kid must feel like he's surrounded by blue pills.

>>7485

Most of the current 4chan posters that ignore the fact that they are getting censored, lack some intelligence. They should had switched to 8chan instead of a hugbox. At this point I think 4chan is just as good as reddit, being censored for unpopular opinions is the treatment there.

I read your other thread. While some of them were cool…Jesus at least half of /christian/ really is the fucking worst aren't they? When will these idiots realize that you can't fight extremist by being the polar fucking opposite.

>>7459

>degeneracy

Aaaaand there was the first potential red flag

>>7486

To be fair though:

1. 30-40% of 8chan are shitposters who post stale memes and need dozens of shitposting boards because /b/ is apparently not good enough and they also need /int/ /meta/ realbenis /intl/ /bane/ and /sp/. Not sure how this effects their intelligence, but it doesn't suggest good things.

2. 30%-50% of 8chan are stormfags, some being literally

3. Not even /leftypol/ is that smart, because while blaming the "bourgeois" makes more sense than the jews, the real culprit is human nature, and I don't think some of them fully know what they are talking about.

>>7487

I didn't make the other thread, just participated in it, for not too long.

>>7490

Youtube comments are the worst side of humanity, the amount of inane shit that gets posted there is incredible, it still amazes me that people spend days there arguing with idiots.

>>7490

What if it's clever sarcasm?

>>7492

>Clever

>On Youtube

Kek.

>>7489

Are cuss words a jailable offence in singapore?

>>7494

If they were every Chinese male would be in jail tomorrow, so no.

>>7481

This needs a lot more love. As in thumbs up. Do it guys, maybe together we can convince a Singaporean to fall for the populist fallacy and hesitate on being a sycophant for cretins.

>>7494

It's an excuse, saying bad things about Jesus is a jailable offense.

>>7456

the guy doesn't know what materialism is,

but other than that he is pretty based and smart.

i feel truly empathetic

>>7476

if a french or a german criticized the christian religion he wouldn't go to jail, he wouldn't even be considered a criminal at all despite the fact that those are mostly christian countries.

>>7472

> I'm glad I live in the US

>where freedom of speech, press, expression and religion are considered basic and sacred

GET A LOAD OF THIS DELUSIONAL GUY

>>7536

That's because France and Germoney are civilized nations.

It is kind of irresponsible that he violated his bail conditions by posting two blog entries which will porbably cost the person who gave him bail 20K. On the other hand, it is interesting to learn about how violently abusive his father is. https://amosyee.wordpress.com

>>7549

Very interesting. I'd say it was worth it.

>>7549

Of course sadly no one from Singapore believes him that his father was abusive, as they insulted their prophet Jebus

>>7536

France arguably contains one of if not the highest ratio naturalists in the world. Check out both the recent Eurobarometer polls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Europe#Eurobarometer_poll_2010

>>7584

I thought Scandinavia would score highest. Thought France was too Catholic to score the highest, and even higher than Britain. In fact, I'm almost certain Britain had more Atheists in other surveys…

>>7585

Reading it should inform you of exactly the problem of only being an 'atheist'. It says absolutely nothing of any other supernatural beliefs, which apparently many still believe in some kind of 'spirit or life force'. France would appear the most skeptical of all 3 in Europe currently.

>>7536

>german criticized

German law:

§ 166 Defamation of religious denominations, religious societies and World view associations

(1) Whoever publicly or by dissemination of writings (§ 11 par. 3) defames, in a manner suitable to disturb the public peace, the substance of the religious or world view conviction of others, shall be fined or imprisoned for up to three years.

(2) Whoever publicly or by dissemination of writings (§ 11 par. 3) defames, in a manner suitable to disturb the public peace, a church established in Germany or other religious society or world view association, or their institutions or customs, shall be punished likewise.

>In 2006, the application of this article received much media attention when a Manfred van H. (also known as "Mahavo") was prosecuted for blasphemy for distributing rolls of toilet paper with the words "Koran, the Holy Koran" stamped on them.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Germany is not a secular country.

We still have church taxes, special employment rights for religious institutions, blasphemy laws, concordat professorships, charged opt-out church memberships, church representative seats in the council of public broadcasters, church run but government-funded facilities, government-payed clergy wages, opt-out RE and so on.

I'm not even talking about the ruling, nominally Christian parties and the layman functionaries that are all over the place in parties all across the political spectrum.

Someone please upload or find a mirror. His videos have gone private!

>>7684

Update: they found Amos guilty of two charges. Supposedly they will give him probation and counseling. His sentencing is a week from now, and he had a laugh at the media by saying his bailor molested him and then recanting it a few hours later after the mdia published it.

Interesting that they acquitted him of the third charge of insulting the leader even though it's obvious that is what this is all about.

(Source: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/courts-crime/story/amos-yee-find-out-verdict-his-case-tuesday-afternoon-20150512 )

>>7690

>Teenage blogger Amos Yee was found guilty on May 12, 2015, of uploading an obscene image and making remarks intending to hurt the feelings of Christians

This whole thing is so fucking stupid, if he was 20 years old then I guess they would consider themselves moral to jail him for this shit.

His last two blog posts cast himself in a negative light, imo. Although I approve of his right to free speech, I do not think he behaves in a mature or ethical way. I have a problem with the extreme way he writes.

He pocketed the crowdfunding and lied about his bailor being a molester just because he was pissed at the guy. Yeah he was a Christian and maybe he offended you, but you don't have to be so bitter that you feel you need to get even with him. And contrary to what he believes, you do owe the guy some gratitude for the pleasure of being bailed out, out even if you think he did it to make a statement about Christians. You do not feel obligated to follow all his rules, but you shouldn't hate the guy so much.

I think the kid has problems with any authority.

>>8077

Oh shut the fuck up. If you have probolems with "the way he writes" you obviously think offended people are right to jail him up.

Free speech is free no matter how many swear words you use, actually, you might not be an atheist because you actually have problems with people swearing. Or you are just from Singapore. If someone wanted to say that I am a flaming piece of shit faggot, good for him. I don't want anyone jailed for that, they are just words, not threats.

>>8085

this.

violence and imprisonment are a world apart from words and cartoons

>>8085

I believe in his right to free speech, but Quickly lose respect for those who abuse that right. He has done that by slandering his bailor with an accusation of molestation to settle a petty grudge.

https://amosyee.wordpress.com/2015/05/15/the-molestation-of-vincent-law/

https://amosyee.wordpress.com/2015/05/17/responding-to-the-molesters-son/

>>8335

Did he take him to court or did he just say some shit?

>>8336

He told the reporters that he'd soon tell about the molestation while leaving the courtroom that, among other things. He enjoys using sensational language, but he should know when it is appropriate. His bailor

is a youth counselor, and you don't falsely accuse those people of molestation if you have a shred of decency, not even as a joke. It's going to stick with him like glue. The worst part is according to his blog he didn't even do it as a dumb joke, but to get even with the bailor he hated and defied.

>>8349

Well I still support him on the grounds that he shouldn't have been tried in the first place. But this is a detestable thing to do.

>>8361

Hello, statuefag. I was wondering when I'd see you here.

>>8361

You don't realize the irony of your post. The butthurt has increased in this one, apparently. Now you can't argue fine points, you just throw memes up like a child.

You really make theists look like pieces of shit. I have nothing against them but a lot of them can be like you. The problem is, when I go on /christian/, I'm respectful yet pieces of shit like you come here and shit in other people's houses and make the rest of you look bad.

>>8371

Sociopathy is actually inversely correlated with religiosity.

>>8368

> when I go on /christian/, I'm respectful

That generally goes for me as well. Except the mods are like tear filled water balloons around porcupines, and they actually ban for rationally playing the devil's advocate in a debate.

>>8371

Have the decency to keep your idiocy & derailments confined to one of the many threads you started, rather than hijacking every thread for mindless shitposting. You're forcing me to use "hide statuefag's posts" button.

>>8379

Where in that does it say the bomber was an atheist? I'd say theists seem to have a monopoly on the lone bomber craze.

>>8379

I consider myself a gamergate supporter, and I think many atheists are as well. The only people who seem to be anti-GG are religious people and SJWs.

>>8379

What does a GG gathering being cleared due to SJW butthurt have to do with this?

In fact, that actually forwards my point. You and the SJWs believe people should not be able to express their beliefs without being punished for it.

>>8379

Nothing the other person said had anything to do with GamerGate nor did it even remotely imply condoning bomb threats for disagreement.

Singapore is just fucked up and the people there are brainwashed

>Singaporean law allows caning to be ordered for over 30 offences, including hostage-taking, robbery, gang robbery with murder, drug use, vandalism, and rioting. Caning is also a mandatory punishment for certain offences such as rape, drug trafficking, illegal money-lending, and for visiting foreigners who overstay their visa by more than 90 days, a measure designed to deter illegal immigrant workers.

>Caning is in practice always ordered in addition to a jail sentence and never as a punishment by itself. It is administered in an enclosed area in the prison, out of view of the public and other inmates. Those present are limited to the inmate, prison wardens, medical officers, the caning officer and sometimes high-ranking prison officials to witness the punishment.

>An inmate sentenced to caning receives no advance warning as to when he will be caned, and is notified only on the day his sentence is to be carried out. In the caning room, the inmate is ordered to strip naked and receives a medical examination by the prison doctor to check whether he is medically fit for caning, by measuring his blood pressure and other physical conditions. If the doctor gives the green light, the inmate then receives his caning, but if he is certified unfit for punishment, he is sent back to the court for his prison term to be increased instead. A prison official confirms with him the number of strokes he is to receive.

>The inmate is then led to the A-shaped frame (called a "caning trestle") and his wrists and ankles secured tightly to the frame by strong leather straps in such a way that he assumes a bent-over position on the frame at an angle of close to 90° at the hip, with his posterior protruding. Protective padding is placed on his lower back to protect the vulnerable kidney and lower spine area from any mis-strokes so that only his buttocks are exposed to the cane. The officer administering the caning takes up position beside the frame and delivers the number of strokes specified in the sentence, at intervals of 10 to 15 seconds. He is required to put his full force into each stroke. The strokes are administered all in one caning session, unless the medical officer certifies that the inmate cannot receive any more strokes because of his condition, in which case the rest of the strokes are converted to additional prison time.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?comments=1&i=3c9_1304013159&safe_mode=off

>>8381

You know what I see on virtually every atheist forum? "Christians are old racist white men". "Christians are misogynists". "Christians are homophobes." "Christians support rape."

And yet you people still try to tell me you're not SJWs?

>>8393

You know, I bet a lot of people would love to convert prison time to getting smacked in the ass.

>>8394

>You know, I bet a lot of people would love to convert prison time to getting smacked in the ass.

Did you even read and see the video? This is an addition to jail, and they literally rip pieces of flesh out of your ass, and they don't only apply this to some huge criminals, but also to lesser crimes. This is inhumane and fucked up.

But I am not surprised that you would agree with this punishment as you are a violence loving flaming faggot christfag.

Remember that there famous American who was caned in Asia for getting drunk and vandalizing cars? America tried to step in and protect their own, but Singapore said fuck off. When you are in another country you are expected to follow their rules.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_P._Fay

>>8394

> "Christians are old racist white men"

But they are anon, though there's nothing wrong with that.

>"Christians are misogynists"

Not all of them, but most are.

> "Christians are homophobes."

That's a stupid term, more accurately that they hate fags. And if that's how you define it, then they do.

>"Christians support rape."

Most Christians don't. Though considering the religions of people in prison for rape there may be a little truth to that.

>And yet you people still try to tell me you're not SJWs?

How does stating fact make us SJWs?

You know, you haven't actually given us any proof that we are SJWs, and most SJWs have no problem telling you that they are SJWs.

>You know, I bet a lot of people would love to convert prison time to getting smacked in the ass.

Bro, caning can kill you.

>>8394

It's become increasingly apparent that you're running out of things to say, statuefag. You sound like a broken record at this point. What is it with christians and making baseless assertions?

Also as others have pointed out, caning is an absolutely barbaric punishment. I know you wouldn't understand why that's wrong, being christian and all, but try to employ some empathy and you might realize a thing or two.

>>8398

He should have learned by now.

>>8401

Give me some stats on the average political views of atheists and compare it with Christians (fixing for gender, age, and other factors of course). Let's see if you can back your argument up with something other than anecdotes and ad hominem.

And for that matter, I won't deny that some SJWs are atheists. But that doesn't mean that atheism makes you a social justice warrior. Just like being a christfag doesn't automatically make you a conservative. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in the existence of deities. It says nothing about you other than that. We don't necessarily support liberal ideology, though the stances of some folks here on certain issues may be liberal. I've seen conservatives and libertarians here. Now why don't you give us a well-constructed argument about why a kid should be sent to jail for expressing an opinion? I'm waiting.

>>8408

>Sarkeesian as far as I know never tweets KILLALLMEN.

And yet she never calls these people out.

>Which, by the way, is a widely accepted stance in liberal circles these days.

No it's not.

>Couldn't even get enough votes to have her removed.

That's terrible, yes, but how is that having a sense of PR? Anita Sarkeesian, yes, I could buy that, but Bahar Mustafa? Not a chance.

>Feminists also like to tell me how the crazies don't represent them too

I don't see anyone claiming to represent me on this board.

>Yeah, and being a Muslim doesn't mean you're a terrorist or an extremist

:>/

>I don't, but I find it hilariously ironic that a bunch of SJWs are offended at someone being arrested for their beliefs

Where did this happen?

>You reap what you sow.

I can't remember the last time atheists have ever "sowed" anything. Seriously, whatis 1 notable thing that we have done as a group. As individuals we can do amazing things, but when has "atheism" ever done shit?

>

>>8408

>I don't, but I find it hilariously ironic that a bunch of SJWs are offended at someone being arrested for their beliefs

What's your proof that we're SJWs? Are a few atheists SJWs? Sure, but you're not arguing with them. You're arguing with us. Pinning us to SJWs just because we share one thing in common is retarded. I guess you're a communist because Stalin drank water like you do.

And the article you linked looked at these questions:

Abortion rights: 90%

Use of birth control/contraception: 99%

Abstinence from sex before marriage: 31%

Condom use to prevent HIV and other STDs: 99%

Funding of international HIV prevention and treatment programs: 95%

Funding of international birth control programs 87%

Universal health insurance: 89%

Sex education in high school: 94%

Embryonic stem cell research: 96%

Withdrawal of life support systems/food for those in vegetative state: 86%

Medicare (health insurance for the elderly and disabled): 97%

Medicaid (health insurance for people with low incomes): 91%

Let's compare the numbers for atheists and agnostics to those for the general population, as determined in the same poll:

Abortion rights: 63%

Use of birth control/contraception: 93%

Abstinence from sex before marriage: 63%

Condom use to prevent HIV and other STDs: 92%

Funding of international HIV prevention and treatment programs: 87%

Funding of international birth control programs 70%

Universal health insurance: 75%

Sex education in high school: 87%

Embryonic stem cell research: 70%

Withdrawal of life support systems/food for those in vegetative state: 68%

Medicare (health insurance for the elderly and disabled): 96%

Medicaid (health insurance for people with low incomes): 91%

>The above numbers come from a poll of 2,242 U.S. adults conducted online by Harris Interactive between September 6 and 12, 2005 and have a margin of error of +/-2%.

>Although support for most of these things is still fairly high, in almost every case it's lower in the general population than among atheist and agnostics. The one notable exception is with abstinence from sex before marriage — that only gets 31% support from atheists and agnostics but 63% support in the general population. It's also the most conservative position on there, which means it just reinforces the greater liberal tendencies among atheists and agnostics.

It specifically says that, with the exception of abstinence, these percentages are still high among the general population. Read the article before you post it.

And none of these things pertain specifically to the bullshit SJWs spout all the time (i.e. muh privilege, muh patriarchy). The article also points out that there are quite a few right-wing atheists.

Also

>I don't

Then what was >>8361? Were you just pretending to be retarded?

>Yeah, and being a Muslim doesn't mean you're a terrorist or an extremist, and yet look at how that works out.

What do you even mean by this? Alright then, I guess Christianity is responsible for quack faith healing, witch burning, exorcisms, bible camps (vid related, and more in the cringe thread), and support of Israel.

>>8412

American Atheists are more liberal on certain issues simply because the Republican supports certain things only to woe religious voters. If the Republican party threw out the mysticism and became more libertarian you might see a different stereotype.

For a fun exercise try counting how many of these issues we consider ourselves liberal on only because the "conservative" viewpoint mainly relies on religion. The categories of "Abortion, Assisted suicide, religion and government, and same-sex marriage" are almost given for Atheists.

http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/conservative-vs-liberal-beliefs/

>>8414

>because the Republican supports certain things only to woe religious voters.

And the funny thing is that this actually a pretty recent development that started in the late 70s.

Kid is a confirmed drama queen, ranting about his suicidal thoughts in rehab and blaming them on society,

https://amosyee.wordpress.com

>>8420

based goldwater is based

>>11308

In your heart you know he's nuts.