/atheism/ - Atheism

I think my father thinks I became an Atheist partly to rebel, and my friend's parents think the v same about his daughter. It is probably some form of coping mechanism to explain why their seemingly intelligent kids could hear the beautiful truth and still became Atheists, (a.k.a Satanists- video is related.) I think they are in denial.

They probably think satan entices young minds with things christfags don't like. Satan = edgy to them. Therefore anything satanic is. Being atheist is tantamount to being a satanist to some christians and muslims. Also, any christianity is more institutionalized than most religious views in the US so if you express a view that you don't feel gods exist, you're being edgy.

In other words, it's a bunch of sensitive faggots that thinks everything they don't think is edgy. There's plenty of reasonable atheists as well as religious folk.

Also, being religious is the hipster thing to do now because it's not very popular. Wait, that's a bit retarded to say, same with calling atheists edgy.

>>7821

Do you even know where that picture comes from? Read up on boobquake, a response to dumb Islamic proclamations.

Intelligent, settled, happy people like myself think the way I do, because it only makes sense If someone thinks differently, there must be something wrong with them, or some force driving them away from the truth.

That must be it.

>>7824

>Intelligent, settled, happy people like myself think the way I do, because it only makes sense If someone thinks differently, there must be something wrong with them, or some force driving them away from the truth.

This is so ironic though, why can't religious people apply this to themselves too and see that it doesn't apply to atheists only? Christtards or alahu ackbars for example think only they are so bright and only they can understand god, while us silly atheists just comprehend the greatness of their god because we are so stupid and they are so smart. How is this any different from atheists again? They have some special group thinking too, how about the fact that different religions praise different gods? Are some religions edgy because they dismiss other religions entirely?

This is so fucking stupid, it's still to early for all humans to be without this stupid holier than you group thinking.

>Like, I get that there actually are stupid teenagers who do this, and there are many people on /christian/ who were former atheist who use this line of reasoning on their past selves, but what the fuck really inspired them to convert back?

My answer would be that someone converts back because just being a rebellious deconvert is very different from deconversion because of looking at the evidence and occupying yourself intensively with the faults of religion. So when the superficial rebellious drive or the spite against the parents vanished then there was nothing that kept them deconverted so they converted back.

>What inspires this horribly inaccurate train of thought? Like, I get that there actually are stupid teenagers who do this, and there are many people on /christian/ who were former atheist who use this line of reasoning on their past selves, but what the fuck really inspired them to convert back?

Probably because they were just stupid teens trying to rebel against their parents and took no actual interest in the debate? Like even if you do abandon belief in God as a teenager, if you do so because you find there's a lack of evidence in support of a deity or you've read up on the arguments and were convinced, you're going to be a lot less likely to then convert back into a christian.

>>7834

>>7839

I agree. If you're a true atheist, you'd have to be brain damaged to believe in gods again. It's like growing up believing in Santa, then finding out he's not real, then believing again.

Atheism fo life, nigga!

>>7863

Hypocritical when you come to our board and say that. Keep your euphoria there.

Also, many of us are happy. We don't need bibles and gods to tells us how to be happy. You assume you'd be unhappy without gods. Maybe you would but many are happy without those beliefs.

>Something I've never quite understood is one thing religious people say about atheists:

>You're only doing this to be edgy and cool. Only rebellious teens and edgelords want to be atheists, and deep down you know you are wrong.

It's a bullshit meme to avoid talking about the contradictions within their belief system. "Atheism = SJWism", "atheism = nihilism" and "atheism = Marxism" are other examples of christfag memes that solely exist to avoid the discussion on the merits of the ideas of theists. This is usually accompanied by "muh fedora" and followed by crotch grabbing and foot shuffling

>Genesis seems to support this weird confusing system where the earth is flat, the sky is blue because water is up there, the window of heaven is supposedly opened to make that water rain down sometimes, the solar system is only what is above the flat earth, and above them are the heavens. How do you defend that? What mental gymnastics do you have to do to avoid questioning that giant red flag that's at the very beginning of the bible?

And what proof is there that the Good Samaritan, and the Prodigal Son were actually real people?

By not being a biblical literalist.

>>7868

And how does one accurately and reliably distinguish between reports and myths in the Bible?

>>7869

My belief is that most of it is to be read in a deeply critical, allegorical, and poetic context. Quotes from the bible like for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil was simply not made to be quickly read and forgotten as being devoid of any meaning and if it were part of a larger report.

The new testament is considered to be more literal.

>>7869

Assume that everything is a myth until proven otherwise.

The Christian way is to assume that everything is true until it's actually proven.

>>7870

Who cares? We don't argue over the veracity of claims within the religions of Greek mythologies or Native American mythologies, but why does everyone want to try to rationalize the Bible. When I was a Christian, I would read the Bible and study voraciously, I would be praised by everyone in my church for my knowledge of the bible, being able to understand most of the context in it's original languages and distinguishing between metaphor and statement of fact. And then I realized it was all bullshit, and I wanted to buy into it because it made me feel good, not because I actually believed it. It was at that point that I realized that I wasted most of my life studying a useless ancient book written by goat-herders. i could have spent that time developing life skills, or studying things that satiated my hunger for knowledge, but the Bible would never help me in my life. The Bible could never help anyone in a unique way that any other book and even those of lesser quality could.

>>7871

I definitely agree with the last sentiment and probably explains a lot of my disdain for it. I wasted so much fucking time learning it, defending it against IRL people and internet atheists and other religions for years until finally, I realized what I believed was so rationalized that there really wasn't much difference between me and an atheist. In the end, it didn't change my behavior nor outlook on people. Still the same inquisitive and understanding, I'd like to think, person I was before, just tend to be more skeptical.

Science all the way. If I need to understand the earth, I seek geology and such. I need to understand myself, I seek biology and some extent, psychology. If I need to understand my car, I see a mechanic. Everything can be solved without gods and without making up answers we don't have.

>>7863

Yeah, I'm sad you know why? Because of people like you.

You base your whole life around a lie.

Your morals and your actions are decided for you by medieval warmongers. You are not free to think for yourself, decide for yourself, and explore the world free from fear and superstition. Life is beautiful. The world is beautiful. The Universe is bigger and more amazing than we can ever imagine. But you need an afterlife for that to be true, and it makes your life way less precious. You're not motivated like us to live your life as best as you can and to do good in this world, because this is supposedly not the only life you're going to get. Otherwise you'd make the most of it. You are a slave to the whims of an egotistical God.

>>7882

>Implying modern Christians are actually getting their morals from ancient people

If religious people actually followed their holy book, there wouldn't be feminist and tranny Muslims.

Now why don't you go throw a neckbeard tantrum or something over people trying to be nice to you. Here I'll help: God bless you!

>>7834

Unless the social pressure got to those folks who fell back into christianity. Christians can really lay on the guilt and mind-games

>>7816

>What inspires this horribly inaccurate train of thought?

impulsive compatibilist rationalization to avoid accepting the uncomfortable. The brain seeks an easy way out that doesn't contradict the existing belief system.

For a theist, considering the possibility that atheists may exist, that they are perfectly normal people making great achievements for humanity in the light that theists currently believe because of the teachings of their religion that its the exact opposite, and that they might have an atheist in front of them is stumbling.

It is much easier, though also much more dishonest, to adopt the position that atheism is a youngster fad (so will say the older theists).

>How can we show these people that atheism isn't the end of everything good?

if they value the word of academics then show them this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_atheists

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/sep/12/pope-benedict-atheism-secularism

http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics-and-religion/#religious-belief-and-affiliation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_and_religion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence

>>7863

>YOU WONT BE HAPPY UNLESS YOU DO WHAT I SAY

tell me more faggot. who is the one using power in his discourse?

>>8321

Just give up, statuefag, nothing you say makes any sense.

>>8321

>Still using this argument

>Still trying to push the atheist = SJW meme

>Haven't committed suicide yet out of shame for using the same terrible arguments over and over again

Step it up, son.