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4c74e7 No.8655

What are some new ways you think religions will try to proselytize/defend their faith in the near future?

Personally, I feel that certain factions will become intertwined with socjus. So that religious bodies will have greater control against dissent by using the progressive stack to keep critics speaking last.

614413 No.8656

Internet popups. Missionaries to poor Asian countries. Christians will go to church less, but go to online Facebook pages and christian groups instead.

Apologetics will say Jesus didn't hate gays after all so we can be tolerant after all. Einstein was religious too, Atheists are trying to revise history. (Monotheism will shift from inplausible human figures and myths towards pantheism and Co-opt science and the quotes of its authoritative figures.) There is something true in all religions, so we can be respectful of other Gods. But that spirituality is one which Atheists can't have because they refuse God, even though they cling to their crippled prophets of science in desperation to fill their empty hearts.

Religion will become more liberally interpretted and splinter into more denominations as every Christian can go online and find an interpretation of the bible that suits him. That is unless there is terrorism or conflict, which tends to make people fundamentalist as they cling hard to their culuture.


d60d53 No.8657

>>8655

They go the touchy feely spiritual way. This can work for some people.


4c74e7 No.8662

>>8656

There's a great dystopian cyberpunk novel in this somewhere.


b39785 No.8671

>>8656

>>8662

This could be a pretty good setting. Mostly for the fact that you could piss off everyone.

>SJWs and libruls get mad over their portrayal

>Religious conservatives also super mad, partially over the progressive sects and extremist conservative sects

>authoritarians get mad due to cyberpunk's nature being anti-authoritarian

>centrists mad because they're portrayed as spineless pussies incapable of anything

>"diversity" folks get mad for showing the downsides of SJWs stupid immigration policies

>nationalists also get mad along with the authoritarians for siding with the religious conservatives and showing them to be as nutty as the rest of them, as well as having eerily similar ethics as SJWs

>anarchists and commies get mad for being shown as stupid delinquents that hurt the people they want to help

Only people who wouldn't get offended are libertarian atheists, and even then I'm sure we could throw a couple of jabs at objectivists and reddit-tier pseudo-intellectual atheists.


e0b417 No.8700

Probably a return to Aristotelianism, mostly relying on the unmoved mover, and the philosophies of Aquinas and Averroes. The main effect is that apolegetics will be even more fuzzy and pedantic, which is ironic, considering how much reactionary Christians hate post-modernism


b43378 No.8701

>>8700

I don't think Aristotelian ism eve makes sense in the context of modern physics, especially cosmology witch mixes quantum mechanics and GR, two of the strangest branches of science that seem to outright defy traditional causation.


8c3181 No.8702

>Religions turning SocJus

But the opposite is about to happen as well, something related to the diaspora effect.

At least in my country people are turning away from the mainstream churches in droves but a share of these people are doing it because of the churches pandering to progressive forces. Movements inspired by the American evangelicals are gaining ground here. So as the total number of church members decreases the number of fundamentalists actually increases.

But don't kid yourself, guys. Irreligiousness is almost exclusively growing in western countries. We're currently living in a period of religious revival since the end of the cold war(at least). Just look at the development in Muslim countries.


e0b417 No.8703

>>8701

Aristotlianism hasn't made any sense since Descartes, when it was basically shown to be based on nothing but assertions

Trying to explain this to 'intellectual' Christians however is next to impossible. They will constantly insist Aristotle was right all along, even going as far as saying that even Newtonian physics should be rejected in favor of it and that Aristotle was somehow right all along


740b67 No.8704

>>8703

They can't abandon Aristotle because then they would truly have nothing but faith. The more "sophisticated" apologists like Dr. Craig rely completely on Aristotelian logic like the Kalam argument, The fact that modern cosmologists don't take his syllogisms seriously doesn't matter to them.


67b7af No.8722

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Well, atheism, the most retarded religion in the world, likes to insult people and act like a retard, and then cry that they're being persecuted when people call them assholes. And like most cults, atheists have no problem with selling out their friends in order to further their cause.


e0f69c No.8726

Apologetics has never made sense in the context of whatever time it has been invoked, rather, it seems that the reasoning becomes more and more baseless the more evidence we have against it. They basically plug their ears harder and harder.

>>8722

And then there's this dumbass in every thread.


b39785 No.8734

>>8722

>atheism is a religion

Top hue

>likes to insult people

Doesn't everyone? Drop by /cow/ sometime. There's threads for overzealous religious nuts AND pseudo-intellectual fedoras. We'll have fun.

>cry that they're being persecuted when people call them assholes

Not sure where you got that idea from, but I'm not feeling persecuted. I just prefer church and state separation and like the freedom to make fun of stuff (just like you're allowed to spam fedora maymays). I'm well aware of my assholery, and I revel in it. Though for the record I don't go around being an asshole to religious people, partly because they're mostly good folk and I don't have the energy.

>atheists have no problem with selling out their friends in order to further their cause

Yeah, I remember that time I sacrificed my first born son to Atheist god in order to make sure evolution gets taught in church.

Ain't Silverman a Jew?


b39785 No.8735

>>8702

There's a big number of sandfolk on /egy/ who say if they were to reveal their religious apostasy they'd be in deep shit. A damn shame, and I hope they get by.


f22a08 No.8747

I expect more "B-b-but what about BEFORE the thing that came before the big bang? Huh? checkmate!" and then more shitty word games that don't actually prove anything.

I think socjus will eventually die out in its current form and political correctness will have to rear its ugly head in another way. Once mad liberalism dies out it will be back to mad conservatism being the issue and then likely back to mad liberalism again.


4e9379 No.8755

>>8735

Yeah, in Egypt. But what's really fucked up is the fact that many (not) closeted ex-Muslims have to fear for their lives in fucking western democracies. Either from their communities or for being vocal activists like the members of the ex-Muslim councils of Britain and Germany. Some members have to live under permanent police protection.


b43378 No.8756

>>8722

>Well, atheism, the most retarded religion in the world,

Atheism is not a religion. It is a lack in a belief in God.

>likes to insult people and act like a retard

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00223980.2013.866929#abstract

Atheist are no ruder than religious group

>and then cry that they're being persecuted when people call them assholes.

Although sometimes people can exaggerate this there is an element of truth here, I live in a comfy liberal blue state and don't have to worry about socially pressures but many atheist do. At the very least atheist are legally discriminated against in that they can't run for office in seven states.

>And like most cults, atheists have no problem with selling out their friends in order to further their cause

I don't know where this one even comes from. Go back to posting fedora pictures, its the only comeback theist have left


7447d3 No.8757

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>>8726

God did make more sense when people believed every book they read. I liked it when the religious acted willing to test God, and said he would boldly show himself to hundreds of people on command rather than hiding as a test of faith. Now he just seems like a sly pussy.




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