Anonymous 01/18/15 (Sun) 04:48:11 0f82e9 No. 964
How do you deal with Christian faggotry like this? It's blatantly obvious that masturbation is a natural occurrence, and yet here this faggot is, claiming that it's some kind of addiction.
Anonymous 01/18/15 (Sun) 07:31:33 3f91fe No. 969
Try explaining some of the health benefits of masturbation and the ask him why God would make something so pleasurable but also objectively good for you in mild doses. It's one of the very few pleasurable things in life that doesn't kill you. If he tries to say that you can masturbate too much, say you can die from drinking water of you do too much of it. That's a bad argument because too much of anything is bad for you. I know there's one story in the bible where God instructs a guy to have sex but he jerks off and "spills his seed on the ground." if they bring up that, explain that the guy directly violated one of God's orders so obviously he would be punished but the passage says nothing of the morality of jerking off itself. If one is to take "God says that guy shouldn't jerk off thus no one should" then they'd also have to say that people fleeding from cities are forbidden from looking back because Lot's family was instructed not to look back at Gomorra.
Anonymous 01/18/15 (Sun) 08:55:36 978edf No. 975
>>969 >people fleeding from cities are forbidden from looking back because Lot's family was instructed not to look back at Gomorra. I just realized something. How would they know Lot's wife actually turned to a pillar of salt if they didn't look back?
Anonymous 01/18/15 (Sun) 14:18:51 4d41b4 No. 979
>>975 What else would he turn her into?
Anonymous 01/18/15 (Sun) 14:37:05 cf4670 No. 982
>>979 Maybe she just saw that nothing was happening and went back?
>>975 Or maybe she was ahead of them so they so her turn to salt ahead of them and passed her?
Anonymous 01/18/15 (Sun) 15:32:43 7acef4 No. 983
He can ignore his own biology all he wants, it's not going to do jackshit
Anonymous 01/18/15 (Sun) 17:16:22 83cc54 No. 985
It is an addiction to christfags, because they have no self-control. Muslims will rape women just because they see an ankle. In Ayaan Hirsi Ali's book "Infidel" she emigrated to the Netherlands and wore a swimsuit for the first time. She was afraid the Dutch men would leer at her or rape her. She was surprised when nobody even glanced at her, because nudity is a natural occurrence in the Netherlands. People walk around nude all day erry day. TL;DR Repression strips you of self-control.
Anonymous 01/19/15 (Mon) 01:14:17 0f82e9 No. 1032
That thread is fucking hilarious. I would absolutely recommend going and reading all the bullshit posts there.
Anonymous 01/19/15 (Mon) 01:56:03 978edf No. 1035
>hear about the nofap movement >apparently if you go 3 months without cumming you get health benefits and stuff like improved focus >check out /r/nofap >christfags, christfags everywhere >bitching about sinfulness and the devil's temptation >everyone lugging around baggage that would make the world's most diligent busboy commit sudoku >all I wanted was some insight into how I can avoid thinking sexy thoughts
Anonymous 01/19/15 (Mon) 01:59:27 978edf No. 1036
>>985 >Repression strips you of self-control This is true. There's also the thing where being a rape monster is considered normal, so a man who sees a bare ankle and doesn't start raping is considered a weirdo.
Anonymous 01/19/15 (Mon) 02:06:03 5a2eac No. 1038
>>1032 I envy your ability to laugh at shit like that
Anonymous 01/19/15 (Mon) 06:40:38 0f82e9 No. 1043
>>1038 It's an ability that I've forced myself to develop. Laugh to keep from crying type shit.
Anonymous 01/20/15 (Tue) 03:30:29 aaba14 No. 1077
>>964 masturbation is natural, homosexuality is natural though statistically small, even abortion is natural: all of them occur in the animal world independently of humans. but the religiously-ethical kind of faggot would simply dismiss evidence and completely switch his argument from using pseudo-naturalism to the extreme opposite of anti-hedonism and going "against instinctive" behaviour as the divine special snowflake religion wants you to be.
belief based on faith is the opposite of knowledge, that is justified true belief, so no argument can support faith-based belief. no human is completely irrational however, so some form of weak arguing is needed in order to convince the sightliest sceptic spark of religious beliefs. but since faith is about believing without justification the nature and validity of the argument is not as important to "preachers" as it is to convince as much people as possible. that's why religious fags don't mind turning back and forth between incompatible pseudo-arguments as long as belief is maintained.
yet in my opinion masturbation is an ideologically undesirable need, because sexual impulses are too fucking irrational and primitive. that doesn't mean I think masturbation is immoral, but just that I would like to live free of sexuality and sexual desire. Fortunately our rational minds seem to roughly have control over sexual impulses.
the only way to deal with that christian faggotry is to slam the deepest false assumptions right in its face: telling them that religion is no basis for ethics, that something can't be objectively right and yet be some deity's whim, and thereby looking at the question of masturbation from a religious perspective is fruitless.
Anonymous 01/22/15 (Thu) 13:17:02 c6f87b No. 1263
>>964 What's really funny about this is that masturbation isn't mentioned in the Bible.
There is some stuff about a man being ritually unclean after an emission in Levitcus, but that even includes having sex with one's wife.
There is the sin of Onan, who spilled his seed on the ground, but that was coitius interuptus as form of birth control.
But making it a sin is a genius move. It gives everyone something to feel ashamed of and keeps them coming back to you for forgiveness.
In marketing, this is called a "manufactured need".
To break this guilt spell, just ask "why would God care about this?".
"Jerking off" is often used as a synonym for a pointless activity.
Anonymous 01/22/15 (Thu) 13:23:03 c6f87b No. 1264
>>985 It's funny how sexual repression does that. It's a weird tick of human psychology that if you try not to think about something you end up thinking about it.
There was an experiment where people were asked not to visualize pink elephants, it made them think about pink elephants.
Anonymous 01/22/15 (Thu) 20:06:02 84680d No. 1274
>>1263 Most of it is "interpreted" through some of the Biblical texts.
Like, my GF's mom believes that Masturbation and porn are forms of Adultery, because you MAY be thinking about someone else while doing it.
And since Adultery is bad, so is Masturbation and porn.
Anonymous 01/22/15 (Thu) 22:19:02 c6f87b No. 1288
>>1274 Well there is a Bible passage where Jesus says who ever looks at woman lustfully commits adultery in his heart.
Matthew 5:28
I think this is where the Catholic Church gets its "impure thoughts" hang up.
Try being a sixteen year old boy and not noticing boobies.. or thinking about girls.
Funny thing about that doctrine thinking about sex is bad, but thinking about ax murdering your neighbors isn't.
The Catholic Church invented "Thought Crime" centuries before Orwell.
It's a great trap. Because once you buy into it, you will always be in sin, always need forgiveness, and therefore always need the Church.
Anonymous 01/22/15 (Thu) 22:36:05 84680d No. 1291
>>1288 What's strange is that she isn't even Christian. She only follows the old testament. I'm not going to get into that shit here though.
But shit, most boys of any age love breasts. That might be a fascination that transcends sexual preference. There's a lot of things we can't help doing, but ironically are sinful.
At least some of the pagan religions recognized sexuality.
Anonymous 01/22/15 (Thu) 23:33:55 978edf No. 1301
>>1263 Also it means you must have sex (without contraception) for sexual release. It's a highly effective population-boosting tactic, especially combined with monogamy Every man is mopolized by one woman's uterus, meaning when a unique man gets off, it's with a unique woman. Compare this to the alpha male with all the women, who divides his attention and is more likely to miss the opportunity to get a woman pregnant.
Anonymous 01/23/15 (Fri) 01:53:46 fc9355 No. 1314
>>1291 Even a lot of gay guys like breasts
Anonymous 01/23/15 (Fri) 02:59:23 978edf No. 1316
>>1288 >The Catholic Church invented "Thought Crime" centuries before Orwell. Nigga, 1984 is about religion as much as government. Fascism is necessarily theocracy.
Anonymous 04/18/15 (Sat) 10:27:31 d8d5a4 No. 6931
>>1314 B..But futa isn't gay, okay?
Futa is just a woman with a big, throbbing penis, it is normal for a heterosexual man to be sexually aroused by a woman, and by seeing a penis. Nothing gay about it.
Anonymous 04/18/15 (Sat) 21:04:04 5747b6 No. 6945
https://8ch.net/christian/res/68281.html Blow jobs are bad. I don't even think the Catholics are 100% trolling.
Anonymous 04/18/15 (Sat) 21:25:33 8f6911 No. 6946
>>6945 Even Islam states that sexuality is free (among married people, of course).
http://quran.com/2/223
Anonymous 04/19/15 (Sun) 03:37:33 63e226 No. 6953
You don't, they are fucking stupid to think that someone who created the fucking universe cares about Jack masturbating to pictures in his room and he will suffer forever for that. Just let them be retarded. If they think masturbation is evil, they aren't thinking logically in the first place and you can't convince them with anything but other faith based shit.
Anonymous 04/19/15 (Sun) 07:08:23 fecce3 No. 6963
>>6931 You know what you call a man that's aroused by penises? Gay. Or potentially bi. It isn't a woman if it has a penis, end of story.
Anonymous 04/19/15 (Sun) 08:27:46 883ffc No. 6968
>>6963 But what about the eternal question?
Bailey Jay or Buck Angel?
Anonymous 04/19/15 (Sun) 08:33:03 8f6911 No. 6969
>>6963 I am only aroused by feminine penis, so your argument is invalid.
Anonymous 04/20/15 (Mon) 11:26:25 c0b00b No. 7026
don't monkey's masturbate? are they going to hell for masturbating? is hell full of monkeys? or does being of lower intelligence means that they aren't held accountable?
Anonymous 04/20/15 (Mon) 15:53:26 e11cd1 No. 7028
>>6963
>not sucking some feminine girly penis
get a load of this pleb
inb4 people don't laugh at the joke feminine penis, they actually are enraged and take this seriously
Anonymous 04/20/15 (Mon) 23:24:41 5747b6 No. 7041
>>7026
Don't you know? All the lower lifeforms are going to hell, like the gay bacteria that exchange fluids with each other. The firmament of hell is going to be a squirming mass of trillions of lower life forms that humans walk upon. Scary dinosaurs will be there too, but at least so willyour loyal dog since dogs don't go to heaven.
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 00:15:33 48973a No. 7064
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 01:44:24 775f93 No. 7066
>>1263
>dat qt.314 asian.
Speaking of jerking off…
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 02:40:35 7a889f No. 7068
>>1288
>Funny thing about that doctrine thinking about sex is bad, but thinking about ax murdering your neighbors isn't.
Willfully and intentionally indulging in violent or inordinately angry thoughts is considered a mortal sin by the Catholic Church.
The gravity of sinfulness for masturbating is also conditioned by maturity and mental state. A 14-year-old latch-key kid who discovers his father's porn stash is less morally culpable than the father who owns the porn.
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 02:48:53 5747b6 No. 7069
>>7068
How about your widowed grandpa who cant get laid and faps.
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 03:12:20 883ffc No. 7070
In general I think it's a shame people are made to feel guilty when jacking off or looking at a hot girl.
Must be awful.
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 19:57:44 fb2c1a No. 7096
>>1263
The bible is also OK with abortion. Been thinking a lot lately about how modern Christianity is some kind of warped canvas for cultural values. It's a weird hybrid of both ignoring the bible and believing stupid things because they're in the bible. Especially with all the new technology and philosophical thought, whatever emotional conjecture the Christian can convince themselves is true evolves into the absolute word of God.
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 20:02:52 fb2c1a No. 7097
>>6963
Depends on how you define woman. If it's gender then what you say isn't true. In society people typically interact in terms of gender.
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 20:36:30 5747b6 No. 7100
>>7096
"One of the few biblical passages that approaches the status of the fetus is Exodus 21:22-25, which reads:
"When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."
This passage allows only for the punishment of a man who injures a woman causing her to miscarry. However, a careful scrutiny of these verses uncovers a startling revelation. A miscarriage is punishable only by a fine, yet if there is any further harm, such as the death of the woman, the penalty is life for life! The implication of this passage is clear—the life of the unborn child is not accorded anywhere near the same status as the life of the woman. To put it another way, the man who causes a woman to miscarry is guilty not of murder, but a misdemeanor.[1]"
Source: http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-canada.org/articles/bible.shtml
Anonymous 04/22/15 (Wed) 23:53:57 48973a No. 7110
>>7100
That is because babies aren't even human unless they're christian babies. What's that verse where god commands Moses to smash babies brains against rocks?
Anonymous 04/26/15 (Sun) 08:47:27 0c3b0a No. 7224
Anonymous 04/26/15 (Sun) 17:44:21 6fdfb7 No. 7229
>>7224
>chubby
That's fat and you know it.
Anonymous 04/26/15 (Sun) 19:07:41 0c3b0a No. 7230
Anonymous 04/26/15 (Sun) 19:26:01 6fdfb7 No. 7232
>>7230
I disagree but enjoy yourself either way.