No.20638
>>20621
Ooooooo nice OP! It's like Brit/pol/ except we are completely cucked yet.
Do you know how to use archive?
Don't give the Guardian views or clicks, they are faggot fucking tranny loving muslim cunts!
Still nice work OP!
No.20639
>>20638
aren't*
Fucking hell, when did my grammar get so terrible?
I don't believe this shit. Fucking High School English, this is why poety and inner journeys were a waste of fucking time.
Fuck this piece of shit country!
No.20782
>>20639
You can use this website to archive the links.
https://archive.is/
No.20784
>>20782
>>20638
If you guys really want I can edit the OP so that the Guardian links are replaced with archive.is links.
I dislike those lefty mudslime sympathising cunts as well.
No.20812
>>20639
yeah i wish we actually learnt grammar in english class, book reviews and story writing was a total waste of time,
>>20621
ive been waiting fo an aus/pol/
No.20905
>>20621
>Wind Farm Commission started up to shut down Wind Farms because of /x/tier psuedo science "infra-sound"
>Needing an excuse to stop funding an inefficient technology.
Top Kek
No.21128
>>20784
OP here, you can change it if you want.
No.21132
Look everyone. If you don't have a job, the solution is to get a job.
And if you don't have time to find a job, you should find more time first.
No.21390
>>20621
OP I would very much appreciate if you could continue these style of posts and start threads in /pol too.
Most importantly you should as often as you can post articles from Australia's oldest and longest running newspaper, based glorious Betoota Advocate.
http://www.betootaadvocate.com/entertainment/these-pigs-have-doomed-us-all/
https://archive.is/igJT1
No.21393
>>21390
Second link, is the Newspaper being interviewed by YourFriendsHouse
No.21535
ABC panel discussion program QandA hosted a conversation about Australian laws which aim to strip fighters in Iraq and Syria of their citizenship if they are dual nationals. The show brought on Zaky Mallah, a man who went (at 20) to Syria to fight (not with IS) and who later returned, only to be arrested. He was convicted for threatening to kill ASIO officers but got off on terrorism charges. He is now something of an open snitch, often boasting about working closely with police and ASIO officers.
Zaky asked the panel if they thought it was appropriate that he be stripped of citizenship even if he would not have been convicted if trialed by a court. Liberal MP Steve Ciobo replied telling him essentially that he would have liked to see Zaky exiled.
After some further discussion Zaky told the panel that 'The Liberals now have justified to many Australian Muslims in the community to leave and go to Syria and join Isis because of ministers like him'
Chair of the panel, Tony Jones, described the comment as 'out of order'.
The news articles are a response to the whole hullabaloo, Tony Abbott, Australian PM, took the opportunity to attack the ABC and QandA specifically
Zaky is an interesting character, he has a hilarious YouTube channel where he rides around on a Segway thing and rants over techno beats about Syria and Islam. He has never supported IS and has on numerous occasions spoken publicly against the group, describing them as khwarij and enemies of Islam. This however has not cleared the ABC of the charge that it is giving a voice to terrorists.
https://youtu.be/HA8JMpckpCc
No.21540
The Chinese will be allowed to bring Chinese workers over without advertising jobs in Australia for any project worth over $150 million. This sounds good as it will push down wages across the country (at a guess) but wages need to be high to pay for rent/mortgage in a high property price market..
Chinese firms will also be able to sue the Australian Government over any policy changes that affect their interests. Much like what has happened with the cigarette companies and the plain packaging laws. Not cool.
No.21542
>>21540
>This sounds good as it will push down wages across the country
How the fuck would this in any case be good?
Wages are already stagnant/falling - in some cities they're definitely falling, the labor market is already flooded, school leavers can't get jobs - it's already basically recession conditions for anyone entering the labor market and they're going to make it worse.
No.21567
>Import shitskins
>Shitskins commit terrorist attacks
>WE NEED TO MONITOR EVERYONE BECAUSE OF TERRORISM
>Continue to import shitskins
I hate this country so fucking much, but I don't think there's anywhere to go.
No.21619
>>21132
You forgot "if your job doesnt pay enough, find a higher paying job."
They were out of touch 10 years ago, now they are just borderline retards.
Joe Hockey is single handedly destroying the liberal party.
Fuck it, let this nation burn.
No.21634
poor people don't have cars.
Also, here's joe hockey when he was at university protesting against paying $250/yr for his university education. NO, not $250k, $250, per year, for university education.
(Joe Hockey is the Federal Treasurer who is all for deregulating universities so that they can charge anything they like for an education).
It's not liberal vs labor. It's the people vs the system. Every time you get pissed off at what your "political rivals" are doing you are feeding the bullshit that gets us all in the shit.
Both liberal and labor voted in the internet filtering laws.
Both liberal and labor voted in the internet data retention laws.
No.21642
>>21535
I've been out the country for too long - is this honestly what The Hun and The Courier Mail look like these days?
They make Sandy Hook MSPaint infographics seem reasonable-minded and more artistic than the Mona fucking Lisa.
No.21787
No.21881
>>21634
This. Both parties only live only to further their own interests and the interests of those who fund them, only from different angles.
So many of our political parties are a fucking ideological mess.
We're in one of the best positions as a western country to remove ourselves from the vice of major banks and have the ability to be mostly self-sufficient for a long ass time, but Libs selling off public resources cheap to foreign companies and labour's inability to capitalize on opportunity has put us in a shitty position.
Stop supporting both of these parties.
No.21894
No.21916
No.21932
>>21542
Because our wages are not competitive internationally. Obviously our goal isn't to compete with China in making buttons or some shit like that. But if we want to make high technology we need to be competitive with Europe. This is difficult as our costs of trade are much larger due to being in the middle of nowhere.
As I mentioned in the post, a drop in wages alone won't do much good as it will create some massive underclass.
No.21934
>>21787
Good post. I think using the internet on your mobile phone is suicide. Phones just seem to have far too many security leaks to be doing anything.
>>21926
Care to summarise the points she made? I was under 10 when she entered parliament as One Nation.
No.21935
>>21932
If the Australian Dollar is worth $1 US, $20/hour Australian is $20/hour US, whereas if the Australian dollar is worth $0.5 US, $20 an hour Australian is $10 an hour US.
Our problem for the past 5 years has been the currency - it should never have been allowed to go as high as it did, up to like $1.10 US (!!!) at the highest, and it was allowed to stay high long enough that it gutted many industries that exported or competed with imports, and led to scale-backs of investment in many more (eg agriculture).
We don't need to cut back Australian $ wages, the exchange rate is the more important price - the RBA is trying to get it down now via interest rates but it's too little too late, it should have been 80c US at most after the GFC and they should have intervened if necessary to stop it going higher.
Gillard/Swan let mining and the dollar gut the economy on purpose though - that's why the coup in 2010 happened.
No.21938
No.21939
No.21942
>>21939
If they listened to Assad 4 years back we would still have some semblance of freedom in Australia.
No.21944
>>21935
The government should have no control over the price of the currency. This has been a policy staple since 1983.
You sound very protectionist. If you want protectionism then you don't blame Gillard/Swan, you blame the entire political milieu.
No.21951
No.21952
No.21955
>>21944
>The government should have no control over the price of the currency.
Says who?
This isn't even really accepted anyway - what is accepted is that monetary policy should be outsourced to an independent central bank the chosen but even then the strength of the currency is seen as something monetary policy has to take into consideration. Currency wars have been ongoing since the GFC as well - even the Swiss central bank intervened directly to cap the strength of the Swiss frank against the Euro - most of what was going on more generally was via interest rates though.
The thing is that the government's actions have effects too - the mining tax would have blunted the mining investment boom and revenue AFAIK was going to in part be used to create a larger sovereign wealth fund than what we had already, and both of those things would have put downward pressure on the dollar - government's can't simply decide they aren't interested in what's happening with the currency anyway because even without the monetary policy levers their actions can still have an effect on the currency.
>This has been a policy staple since 1983.
Yeah and look what's happened since then?
I'm not advocating pegging the dollar anyway though, and in reality most countries see the strength of the currency as something to keep a watch of and alter indirectly if need be.
And the thing is that's what Gillard/Swan were doing - they did it on purpose. Wayne Swan raved on about 'making room for the mining investment pipeline' and fuckwits in Treasury were actually telling each other that "Australia has too much manufacturing". They hollowed out the economy ON PURPOSE.
>You sound very protectionist.
When did I advocate tariffs? choosing to
>If you want protectionism then you don't blame Gillard/Swan, you blame the entire political milieu.
If saying "the government/rba let the dollar stay too high for too long" is protectionist than most of the world is protectionist.
Anyway there is no 'neutral' position on this stuff, the government can't simply 'keep their hands off' - everything is a choice and pretty much every country in the world is grappling with things one way or another. Australia sat on its hands for most of the post GFC period because the Government decided to do that in full knowledge of what the consequences were. The coup in 2010 was very significant, Mark Arbib was actually a US intelligence asset and was instrumental in ousting Rudd - none of this stuff happened by accident.
I'm not saying Rudd was some Messiah but the pace at which Australia was being sold out quickened exponentially after Rudd was ousted.
No.21956
>>21955
>choosing to
fucked up cutting/pasting, w/e
No.22008
I assume the Tele will give Abbott a serve over his enquiry. They're all for freedom of the press!
No.22009
>Senator David Leyonhjelm questions if Aboriginals were first occupants of Australia; says it would be 'bizarre' to put into constitution
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-25/david-leyonhjelm-raises-doubts-over-aboriginal-occupants/6572704
No.22010
>>22008
I want to see this in every shop in Australia.
No.22070
>>22010
>>22008
Do you understand the difference between a state broadcaster and private press?
Honestly, people like you make me despair for the future of Australia.
How can you literally cheer for your oppression? Fucking bootlicker.
No.22071
>>22010
>>22008
Do you understand the difference between a state broadcaster and private press?
Honestly, people like you make me despair for the future of Australia.
How can you literally cheer for your oppression? Fucking bootlicker.>>22010
>>22008
No.22143
No.22514
No.22515
Labor left tries to head off damaging split on boat turnbacks policy
>Figures on the left are attempting to head off a damaging split within Labor over boat turnbacks, with refugee activist Brad Chilcott warning the party currently risks giving Tony Abbott a “free kick” on a politically sensitive issue.
>Chilcott runs the national refugee advocacy group Welcome to Australia, and will be a South Australia left faction delegate at the July national conference.
>He told Guardian Australia on Monday that Labor needed to accept boat turnbacks as part of the border protection policy mix because “you can’t trust conservative leaders not to politicise this issue.”
https://archive.is/KI0yN
No.22517
Former Independent Tony Windsor has a fascinating editorial in the Saturday that I believe will be of interest
>The following is a controversial view, but it is one this government has forced me to hold: I believe that any tragedy or terrorist activity in Australia would almost be welcomed because of the political benefits that would flow from it. The continual progression of asylum-seeker and terrorist law is all about where the blame can be laid when that tragedy occurs, rather than engaging with the domestic and international drivers of these issues. This is all very well in the short term, but what Abbott and his conservative colleagues don’t seem to appreciate, or perhaps care about, are the long-term implications.
>There are a number of questions that require answers. What are the long-term consequences of combining the issue of terrorism with the plight of people seeking asylum? What are the consequences of demonising Muslims with incessant dog-whistling about race and religion and difference? Is anyone in the government or the opposition joining the dots?
>And there is more. What are we doing to our long-term relationship with Indonesia and others in the so-called area of influence, and what does it mean for our future in Asia? Does anyone realise that we need these people more than they need us? Is the trashing of our international reputation of concern to the Australian community?
https://archive.is/WkLt3
No.22518
I often wondered why the side of politics ostensibly about "freedom" seemed to hate renewable energy. Why would you support huge centralised planning of something that can now easily be decentralised. So I found this article about Tea Partiers going up against the Kochs and campaigning for renewables to be interesting: http://www.theage.com.au/world/activism-fomented-by-koch-brothers-turns-against-them-20150627-ghwmwe.html
No.22543
Labor are much worse at attacking the Coalition on their strong areas , than the Coalition are at attacking Labor. Labor has far more public trust when it comes to provision of services (health, education, etc) but that's never stopped the Coalition from running on a Low Taxes (by cutting those things to the bone) platform. Labor seems to have a much harder time arguing for the Provision of Services which may require more tax or by arguing common interest against National Security stuff. In large part I think because Labor has bought into the Coalition worldview on these things far more than the other way around.
No.22549
This is an first class macroeconomics questions:
Why does Australia have drivers pushing the aggregate demand curve to the left (high interest rates and subsequent wealth effect and foreign-purchases effect) when there is such high unemployment in this country?
No.22554
>>22549
Functionally there's a lot more things being balanced other than just domestic demand and the balance of trade. The danger of low interest rates is the potential increase of private household debt, which will make any future private deleveraging more difficult to achieve. The other is that monetary policy can only be pushed so far. There is a potential for the reserve bank to lose control of interest rates at through a liquidity trap if it lowers them too far.
Of course, lowering interest rates without actually increasing production appreciably will just increase inflation ala the phillips curve, which will erode our PPP considerably.
The only real solution to this is increasing our productive efficiency, either through standard technological improvement, or through productive infrastructure spending. The government's white paper on Northern Australian infrastructure should go some of the ways to increasing the international competitiveness of Australian primary resources, but this is only a partial solution. At the end of the day, the Australian economy needs to become a lot broader than it is currently.
Hopefully the NBN will to some extent allow Australians to provide services efficiently internationally, however this might not happen in its current castrated form.
No.22562
>>22554
Why not lower interest rates but put in prudential regulations preventing loans to people with a certain % of debt?
Why can other countries keep interest rates so low but Australia is forced to keep it a couple of percentage points higher?
Do other countries of 20 million have broader economies than us, or are we comparing ourselves to larger countries?
No.22564
>>22562
>Why not lower interest rates but put in prudential regulations preventing loans to people with a certain % of debt?
Lower interest rates to get the currency down combined with macro-prudential measures to reign in housing was being called for back in 2010-11 by the macrobusiness guys and some of the more clued in economists.
Basically interest rates were kept high and the dollar in part as a consequence held high because the government wanted to gut the economy to make room for mining investment and avoid any kind of inflation or across the board improvement in wages. Our dear leaders massively overestimated the longevity of the boom, bet everything on it, bet that they could keep the rotten bubble economy going on the back of it, and now we're fucked.
No.22565
>>22562
Australia is an outlier in regards to these other economies in terms of household debt, so it is a far greater concern than other developed economies.
Do other countries of 20 million have broader economies than us, or are we comparing ourselves to larger countries?
Well this is something that differs heavily on a regional basis. When you're looking at Western Australia, Queensland and the Northern Territory, the answer is definitely yes. Which is why they will all suffer to some extent from dutch disease during the current softening of mineral/energy prices.
Why not lower interest rates but put in prudential regulations preventing loans to people with a certain % of debt?
Banks already try this (and are quite good at it), and the issue isn't necessarily individuals taking on multiple loans or loans they can't service. Mortgage insurance companies will do their best to avoid any loan with any perceived chance of default. The problem of course is that this is assuming that the entire economy is in a condition that allows them to service such a loan. This doesn't just mean higher interest rates in the future (the mortgage insurer will account for this), but rather whether their metric for 'job stability' becomes accurate on a macro scale. If the incomes of home owners are degraded significantly then this household debt will cause a massive issue for the entire Australian economic system.
>>22564
I guess this is the problem that occurs when you try to keep inflation in a 2-3% target band regardless of the nature of that inflation. Australia was a 2-speed economy during the boom and obviously dealing with it would drastically burden areas that weren't stimulated by high resource prices.
No.22596
>>22554
>Of course, lowering interest rates without actually increasing production appreciably will just increase inflation ala the phillips curve, which will erode our PPP considerably.
I only stumbled across the phillips curve recently, but that doesn't sound right…
Shouldn't interest track with inflation?
Phillips predicts a run-away inflation rate with full employment, and deflation with high unemployment
No.22608
Wonder how much higher yesterdays one will be.
No.22609
Joe Hockey won his case against Farifax for defamation.
$120k for the poster.
$80k for 2 x tweets.
https://archive.is/KxUPg
No.22610
>>22608
> not 100% happy with the current libs
> leftwing extremist!
No.22613
>>22610
That must explain how the last two Federal budgets have passed through unopposed. Thanks Labor.
No.22615
>>22609
>Joe Hockey won his case against Farifax for defamation
Good on him. He's a cunt and the article was true but I like seeing the lefties at Fairfax get BTFO.
No.22616
>>22608
Aly was good, and Krauss was great.
It's edifying after a week like the one we've had, to have an outsider come in and basically tell you that you're sane and that your government has been completely hysterical and made a mountain out of a molehill. I mean we knew it ourselves but like, yeah, someone with more or less a fresh set of eyes to say that the Coalition gave Zaky more of a platform than Q&A ever did, and that they were governing by fear and divisiveness.
And when Tim Wilson tried to dummy spit at Tony Jones for being snarky towards the end and the rest of the panel and audience laughed him off. Perfection.
No.22617
>>22616
You lefties are easily satisfied m8.
No.22618
>>22617
It was very strange. They kept trying to move the goalposts of why it was so terrible because Krauss cut through the banality of it all pretty early on and subsequently any outrage just fell flat.
At first Paul Kelly of the Australian said it was wrong to give him a platform at all, and that media organisations had to hold themselves to a higher standard. To which Tony Jones pointed that the Australian had done so too in 2012. There was really no response to this besides some off hand remark about how live TV is different.
Paul then sort of implied the ABC had better listen to the hints Malcolm Turnbull was dropping or there could be very serious consequences for them. I think he meant it in a realpolitick kind of way, but it sounded a lot like "nice public broadcaster you've got here, be a shame if anything was to happen to it".
Tim Wilson was even stranger in that he was basically implied of course everyone deserves a fair go and free speech but really the ABC fucked up and it was galling for the Parliamentary aide to be even questioned by such a disrespect churl.
He then suggested a more suitable representative of the Muslim community should have been found to which Aly basically nailed him for assuming Zaky spoke for all Muslims, rather than himself, and Krauss basically accused him of wanting a nice safe token Muslim to not rock the boat.
And when that wasn't working, he started to have a go at Tony calling him snarky or something, and then in the religion v. science segment when Tim off-handedly said everybody is entitled to voice their opinion and Tony turned to him and said "oh really", he tried to fly into something with pathos about how this attitude demonstrated Tony learned nothing, but the rest of the panel and audience just laughed as he tried, cutting the legs out from under quite spectacularly.
No.22619
>>22618
The problem with the Zaky thing is you know that the lefty producers at Q&A did it on purpose - they threw a mad muslim cunt at a government minister in an ambush. They did the same thing to John Howard with David Hicks.
They put these treasonous terrorist cunts on the show like they are just normal people with an opinion. There was something very disrespectful about it.
And then Tony Jones tries to say that all views should get an airing whether everyone agrees with them or not. But then in the next breath he says how if they'd known Zaky has sent a "misogynist" tweet they wouldn't have had him on!
Doing time in jail for threatening public servants is fine, but sending "misogynist" tweets means you aren't allowed on.
I think this gets to the heart of what people call the ABC's "bias". Muslim terrorist opinions are valid, but "sexist", "racist" (i.e right wing) opinions should and indeed must be censored.
No.22620
>>22619
>The problem with the Zaky thing is you know that the lefty producers at Q&A did it on purpose - they threw a mad muslim cunt at a government minister in an ambush. They did the same thing to John Howard with David Hicks.
Except John Howard came out looking like a real statesman.
No.22621
>>22620
Well the ABC only had Hicks' question via video.
Back then they weren't quite at the stage you see them at now where they will put a cunt like that right in the audience to do whatever they want.
No.22630
>>22596
>>22554
Shouldn't decreasing the interest rate make more investments have a positive expected return of profit, increasing investment, causing multiplier effect, increasing production and employment?
Australia is nowhere near full-employment (supposedly) so should have little issue finding labour.
No.22631
>>22619
>Doing time in jail for threatening public servants is fine, but sending "misogynist" tweets means you aren't allowed on.
I think because the prison was years ago whereas the 'misogynist' (threatening violence) tweets were recent. I think if the tweets had said that white men should be curb stomped it would be the same reaction of not being allowed on.
No.22636
Gillard and Rudd should sue newscorp for defamation. It'd fucking rain money for them with this precedent.
No.22637
>>22636
News Corp has too much dirt on them.
Gillard in particular is a degenerate slut.
No.22639
Maybe members of parliament should have thick skin, or develop it.
No.22643
>>22637
>Gillard in particular is a degenerate slut.
What makes you say that?
No.22645
>>22643
She has a thing for married men.
No.22652
>>22515
Brad Chilcott is a fucking mutt! Ive trolled that cunt on twitter.
Yeah he runs a fucking refugee dumping ground, sure he'd turn back boats… THEIR HIS FUCKING CLIENTS AND VOTERS!
TRAITOR!!! HANG HIM WITH THE REST!
No.22653
>>22615
Is Hockey a kike?
It all makes fucking sense now, fat turd!
No.22681
>>22652
I'm pretty sure they kicked him out of my church for being too much of a heretical cuck.
Er, I mean "doctrinal issues".
That was a bit before, or maybe just as this whole bent he's gone on, really began to flare up.
No.22682
which is also why he's now joined the pentecostals.
bit of kum-bah-yah humanism goes in "hands up for a cup of coffee", prosperity theology la-la land.
the epitome of sheltered well-to-do whites tbh
No.22693
>>22596
The RBA designs the interest rate to track with inflation by keeping it within the target band, this was more of a hypothetical situation in which we were to lower inflation to ignore that target band. If you were to attempt to stimulate the economy with lower interest rates in order to increase employment, you might succeed in that goal, but you will also increase inflation.
Which is pretty much :
>Phillips predicts a run-away inflation rate with full employment, and deflation with high unemployment
No.22694
>>22653
>Is Hockey a kike
Not literally.
His family are Palestinian migrants though. Allegedly Christian.
His real name is soemthing woggy but they anglicised it. It was hokkeidon or soemthing like that.
No.22699
>>22693
>Phillips predicts a run-away inflation rate with full employment, and deflation with high unemployment
Like the horrible run-away inflation during the post war era…
Reminder that Robert Menzies almost lost the 1961 election because unemployment was 2%, how times have changed.
No.22700
>>22699
Did we really have a post-war depression because employment was too high? lol
Australia was the only non-totalitarian government to ever try for what they call "Full Employment"
No.22701
Funny looking at unemployment vs employment rates though
Employment is at 72%, Unemployment at 6%
6/72 gives 8% ready-to-fill growth capacity?
6/28 gives 20% of full growth cap?
In theory, there is room for 40% growth
No.22703
Compare with greece ..?
Employment 50%, unemployment 25%
50% ready to fill
50% of full cap
is it just demand/supply from there..? high demand for work + large supply of free workers -> weak incomes?
No.22706
Greece should probably be looking at dropping staple food prices down to 25%, taking the basic value of money up 4x and riding it out =)
No.22708
>>22700
>Did we really have a post-war depression because employment was too high? lol
Of course not, between 1945 and 1973 or so, Australia was one of the best places on earth if not the best.
No.22709
Dunno what banks do when deflation hits, sort of their own fault though..
You're a bank, if you hadn't lent the money people have deposited you wouldn't have any problem whatsoever
No.22710
Am i right in thinking most accounts don't even get interest either..?
No.22715
Sort of serves them right for lending money they don't own
No.22717
Could at least ask for a percentage to loan with some set risk / return…
Least people would know x% is safe to draw out
No.22751
With Clapistanian politics igniting the concept of secession lately, I found this piece on today's ABC pretty interesting:
https://archive.is/QRPUX
While I think the "we should change these boundaries because they're old" drift is a bit daft, it does raise a lot of questions. We're not the States, we're pretty centralised already: will creating new power blocs actually give them sufficient bargaining power with the Commonwealth government?
No.22773
Labor set to abandon Kevin Rudd's leadership rules
>Labor has left the door open for the caucus to reverse Kevin Rudd's rule that makes it nearly impossible for the party's elected leader to be toppled in a midnight coup.
>The Australian Labor Party's draft national constitution, published on its website, includes changes made to the way the leader is elected - by an equally weighted ballot of caucus and party members.
>But significantly, it does not include the caucus-approved rule that the prime minister can only be removed if 75 per cent of MPs agree to force a ballot. This is lower - 60 per cent of caucus - for an opposition leader.
◆
>Pressed on whether the caucus rule had been left out of the draft national constitution, Mr Shorten deferred the question to party headquarters.
>"You'd have to ask the federal Labor Party for that but what I would say is that in terms of the assumption underpinning it, is there unity in the party? Yes there is," he said.
https://archive.is/RztJq
No.22774
Say what you will about The Project, but it's nice to see such forceful language about this in prime time: http://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/the-project/extra/season-6/silencing-detention-whistleblowers
No.22792
No.22817
Abbott: Australia Won’t Blindly Follow U.S. To Equal Marriage, It’s Not Like A War
https://archive.is/Q25pr
No.22818
With all the noise on TV today, it appears as though the marriage equality bill isn't even going to see the floor, let alone cabinet. Looks like the stacked committee that decides what can be voted on is either going to deny it or just mire it down until, they think, everyone forgets.
I wonder what part of Asia they want to copy. The massive investment in manufacturing? Social housing in Singapore? Massive investment in renewables in China? Or supporting Taiwan so they will probably be the first country to allow marriage equality in Asia? Or maybe, deep racism towards immigrant communities in SEA? Jailing and Death Penalty rates in China? The horrendous oppression towards religious minorities also in China? Ridiculous territorial expansionism? The treatment of women in India?
No.22826
>>22818
>I wonder what part of Asia they want to copy.
How about healthy traditionalism alongside appreciation of the importance of technology like in Japan?
>Or maybe, deep racism towards immigrant communities in SEA?
Fuck off, shitskin.
>Jailing and Death Penalty rates in China?
Fuck off, weakling.
>The horrendous oppression towards religious minorities also in China?
Fuck off, terrorist.
>The treatment of women in India?
Fuck off, SJW.
>Ridiculous territorial expansionism?
And what's wrong with expansionism? Our country wouldn't even exist if not for that. We should be playing that game with the islands in our back yard - it's good for everyone.
Bloody poofters.
No.22830
>>22818
Just so everyone knows, this is the same SJW shitcunt from >>22820
Everyone point at him and laugh. Some cunt from southern rural QLD. Going through his posting history, I'm still unsure whether he's earnest or not about the things he says. It looks like he might be, which makes things quite amusing.
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No.22831
>>22818
>reclaim
This shit is going to be a clusterfuck. There'll be an absolute army of left wing counter-protestors in Melbourne, Sydney will be similar but probably with a larger ethnic component relative to leftists.
The Adelaide counter protest will almost certainly be larger than the actual reclaim protest too - it's only Perth and (mostly) Brisbane of the major cities where the actual reclaim rallies might outnumber the counter-protesters and even then the counter protests will be substantive, very aggressive and very loud.
Sherman's pretty much cracking under pressure as is, lots of the regular 'reclaim'
people are getting scared away by all the angry ranting coming from the UPF sorts - those who turn up will probably be more determined but I doubt people will be bringing their kids.
I guess cops will be well prepared though.
No.22832
>>22830
do you mean >>22820
? cause >22824 is talking about the over the top SJW post.
No.22833
>>22830
>from southern rural QLD
can you actually see IPs/geolocation stuff or is it just that he actually gave away where he was from in a post?
No.22836
>>22833
>can you actually see IPs/geolocation stuff or is it just that he actually gave away where he was from in a post?
He's mentioned it in a few posts. And yeah, quoted the wrong post, my mistake.
>>22835
Stop being a faggot deliberately trying to stir up shit.
No.22845
>A BRISBANE-BASED financial planner has launched an extraordinary anti-Semitic tirade against Assistant Treasurer Josh Frydenberg, describing him as a “tinkering Jew”
>“Get your Josh Frydenberg ‘Central Planning Jew’ punching bag AB. I ordered 5000 in on the next Cargo flight out of ShenZhen,” Mr Howarth tweeted yesterday.
>“What a cock sucker. First course of action was to regulate insurance salaries,” he wrote, adding: “Slap stick comedy Jew Frydenberg stars in Deregulating Regulator Regulating.”
>Later he wrote: “‘The F— Frydenberg’ movement is picking up steam. Free Markets or Central Planning Jews.”
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/financial-planners-vile-twitter-rant/story-fnkgbb6w-1227419892001
No.22846
>>22830
You're not supposed to take advantage of your Board Owner capabilities to unmask/unveil who wrote this and that.
Fucking druggie.
I am all against SJWs and the like, still you're a worst censor and faggot than the cunts you're trying to repel because you're hampering the imageboard culture just to expose the ID of a cunt for a brief laugh
I wish board owners were forced to see per-thread IDs, not IDs unique all over the board.
No.22867
No.22868
>>22867
oh, almost forgot.
ADELAIDE
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Truly our Florida.
No.22877
>>22868
odds of being ice related?
No.22878
>>22877
I was thinking either that or a schizophrenia-induced psychotic episode.
No.22880
>>22877
not particularly high but I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Could just be his dad was a dickhead and he passed that on.
No.22882
>>22867
Saddest part is this:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-03/crowscats-cancelled-what-it-means
What sort of society do we live in where the first thing on people's minds is their fantasy team?
No.22887
>>22882
#cashedupboganproblems
No.22893
>>22888
Dubtrips confirm that ninemsn has metamorphosed into the final form of clickbait.
No.22896
>>22882
That's just pathetic.
No.22911
No.22912
> Eighty-nine Australians in every 1,000 are now prescribed some form of daily anti-depressant, but 10 years ago the rate was closer to 45
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-22/australia-second-in-world-in-anti-depressant-prescriptions/5110084
No.22915
1 in 10 people in Iceland take antidepressants daily
When we looked at the daily consumtion of antidepressants per 1,000 people, Iceland stood apart from any other country we looked at with 106 per 1,000 consuming these drugs in 2011. It's also important to bear in mind that those figures are calculated per 1,000 of the population, not per 1,000 adults, meaning that the actual rate of antidepressant consumption is likely to be even higher.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2013/nov/20/mental-health-antidepressants-global-trends
No.22916
>>22878
anti-psychotics are another good one, probably more common than schitzophrenia
No.22917
Withdrawal symptoms from antipsychotics may emerge during dosage reduction and discontinuation. Withdrawal symptoms can include nausea, emesis, anorexia, diarrhea, rhinorrhea, diaphoresis, myalgia, paresthesia, anxiety, agitation, restlessness, and insomnia.
The psychological withdrawal symptoms can include psychosis, and can be mistaken for a relapse of the underlying disorder. Better management of the withdrawal syndrome may improve the ability of individuals to discontinue antipsychotics.[81]
No.22918
Antipsychotics (also known as neuroleptics or major tranquilizers)[1] are a class of psychiatric medication primarily used to manage psychosis (including delusions, hallucinations, or disordered thought), in particular in schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, and are increasingly being used in the management of non-psychotic disorders
No.22919
>>22912
anti-depressants change peoples personalities and can make some people completely fucking crazy.
No.22968
>>22818
The scary part is if she sucks up the preferences she did last time she could actually win a seat since I can't imagine people will accidentally vote Liberal Democrat this time.
No.22969
I do really wonder it Abetz has gone off the reservation and is giving oxygen to a debate that the Coalition wants gone yesterday or is being told to bear the standard for the party faithful because more prominent elements in the Cabinet can't.
His abortion/breast cancer thing makes me think the former at the moment. That and suggesting front benchers resign over a conscience vote.
No.22971
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Asia would see us as decadent if we embraced gay marriage: Barnaby Joyce
>Agriculture Minister Barnaby Joyce has warned Asia could see Australia as "decadent" if same-sex marriage is legalised, potentially damaging negotiations and our trading relationship in the region.
>While Mr Joyce says Australia should not necessarily take its cues or cultural values from its near neighbours, his comments echo fellow cabinet minister Eric Abetz' warning last week that Australia should not legalise gay marriage because no Asian country has done so.
>"I think that what we have to understand is that when we go there [Asia], there are judgments, whether you like it or not, that are made about us and they see in how we negotiate with them whether they see us as - whether they see us as decadent," he said.
https://archive.is/YeUEa
No.22973
>>22968
what's scary about it?
She nearly won Lockyer in the Queensland State election earlier this year, only 184 votes behind the LNP candidate - knife edge basically.
Lol, the unions were saying it - "number every box and put the LNP last…" a decent number of non liberal voters clearly did it.
No.22974
No.23138
No.23180
>>22971
>we care about foreign opinions
bullllllllshit
No.23182
No.23183
>>22969
>not a reflection of the priorities and aspirations of your ratepayers
>deal with matters that actually fall in the purview of council's responsibilities
I really like this fellow already.
No.23185
>>23180
You have to bear in mind that when they say "Asians would" see us as decadent, what they actually mean is that they, personally, will see Australia as a decadent country. It's not politically correct to come right out and say that homosexual marriage is degenerate, so they need to frame it differently.
No.23187
>>23137
>pee
Confirmed for foreign fifth columnists.
No.23276
No.23373
>Prime Minister Tony Abbott is willing to lift the ban on his frontbenchers appearing on the ABC's Q&A panel show if the program is transferred to the news division with strict editorial oversight.
https://archive.is/BXzt7
No.23405
>>23373
Have you seen the news that the national broadcaster produces lately? It's ninemsn-tier, without the ads.
There was an article about the stock market/United Airlines glitches the other day, and the ABC inserted Frank Somecunt's "hilarious" one-liners from Twatter.
>b-but showing what's trending in social media is a part of the news!
Fuck your populist shit - if I wanted to read a half-formed opinion that some knob-jockey knocked out in less than 140 characters, I wouldn't be on a news site. Journalism is about showing the main sides of an argument in an even-handed manner and making mad dosh. I can understand and even put up with bias, provided its well argued. But this dumbing-down, inserting the proles' opinions on everything is fucking cancerous.
No.23503
>The Abbott government plans to give itself the option of calling a double-dissolution election based on trade union corruption when Parliament resumes in mid-August.
>Banking on its Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption inflicting reputational damage on Labor leader Bill Shorten, the government will use the resumption of Parliament to put two bills back before the Senate that seek to curb union excess.
https://archive.is/tly9A
No.23506
>Other countries 'airy-fairy' on climate change, says Tony Abbott, as Australia delays new emissions target announcement
>Prime Minister Tony Abbott said the difference between Australia and the rest of the world was that "when we make commitments to reduce emissions we keep them"
https://archive.is/bnu7j
No.23597
>Fewer people are being granted the disability support pension due to tighter rules, Social Services Minister Scott Morrison says.
>The number of people being rejected for the disability support pension is the highest in a decade.
>Last financial year 41,832 applicants were granted the disability pension, compared to 91,131 in 2009-10, the peak period under the previous Labor government.
>Social Services Minister Scott Morrison says tighter rules mean the payment is going to those who need it.
https://archive.is/1gvI3
No.23601
Coalition defies Senate to increase cost of applying for a divorce
https://archive.is/BQXwC
No.23644
Here is abreast article by Andrew Leigh quantifying the impact of the gun buyback.
https://archive.is/koGjW
I found it interesting that there was also a noticeable drop in suicides.
No.23648
>>23644
>saved X lives a year, mostly suicides
Has he considered seeing if the rate of non-gun related suicides changed accordingly post-ban?
I'd appreciate it if the article wasn't so smug about having looked up a few numbers on Google and not thought deeper about the meaning of it.
I checked the numbers for the years around 1995 and I'm personally unconvinced. The rate seemed to adjust similarly to the rate of change of the population in general, and, more importantly, all suicides have dropped massively in the past few decades, gun or otherwise. I also found a study that the guy probably should have linked instead of writing up an article (as an excuse to repost his tragic journalistic sob story) which looks into meta effects including substitution, and even then it has a few weird assumptions that I don't agree with.
All that aside, even if the outcome means that suicidal people kill themselves less when they have to make an effort, that's not really a positive thing in my book anyway and I think it's dishonest of the author to suggest that.
But I guess what us pro-gun people think doesn't matter. It's the left's country.
No.23660
>>23648
You want to link that study, tiger?
I don't necessarily disagree that the article was skewed horribly: the 1987-1996 period shown which "demonstrated" how many were killed in multiple homicides, for example, was completely decontextualised. Why that decade? Did guns become more readily available in 1987? Was 1987 the first year we started cataloging victims of multiple shootings? Nope, doesn't matter! Lots of people died before Johnny made the grab!
But you'd be helping your cause a lot more if you threw out some figures yourself.
No.23688
>>23405
It's like you think politicians want honest fact based reporting or something.
No.23691
>>23688
Nah, cunt, I'm not under that misapprehension at all.
Just trying to get gunbro to put his points across a bit more succinctly.
No.23701
>>23644
>I found it interesting that there was also a noticeable drop in suicides.
I know you probably meant firearms suicides but still, I must be an autist. firearms suicides. There is no mention of total suicide rates.
The gun buyback did reduce firearms suicides, but actual suicides should be looked at too.
stats are easy to abuse- if we're showing causations/relationships we need to control for all other variables, enough said.
The port arthur massacre, and the buyback, resulted in a drop of semi-automatic firearms ownership. But, [my reasoned speculation would suggest that] you would have also seen a corresponding/related drop in firearms ownership, an increased focus on secure storage of firearms, and better firearms safety.
These would all go hand in hand, the communities more likely to give back their guns are the ones most affected by pt arthur (people in tassie) and if you're giving your guns in willingly, chances are you've given thought to how you store your remaining firearms. If you're not giving your guns back, there's a far slimmer chance you'll feel the need to go out and buy a gun safe and do a safety course or whatever.
Less firearms = less firearms suicides is understandable intuitively.
As touched on in previous paragraph, post-pt arthur firearm ownership attitudes should result in less suicides, as well.
But less semi-automatics = less suicides is a more interesting proposition, that needs some backing up in the way of statistics that adjust/control for the reduction of gun ownership. Preferably either looking at a time before pt. arthur or significantly after (to control for attitude change in firearms owners).
If it is demonstrable, then looking at the rate of firearms suicide in the gun-owning population should see a drop.
It could well be so, even if just a small drop. A factor in suicide is the ease of doing so, to the point of where increasing the time that a suicide attempt takes to do by even seconds, can result in a significant saving of life.
It could well be so that redn. in semi-automatics meant an increase in mean/median length of firearms (since shorter semi-auto firearms would be off market - if these were available? I don't have a clue)- which makes it require more time to get in position to do the deed with a longarm/shotgun. That increased time plausibly could save lives, after all lots of people do put a barrel in their mouth before deciding not to.
No.24443
Bill Shorten to pledge to adopt boat turnback policy
>EXCLUSIVE: LABOR will go to the next election promising to turn back asylum-seeker boats in a dramatic policy switch which will test Opposition Leader Bill Shorten’s leadership.
>The Herald Sun can reveal Mr Shorten and Immigration spokesman Richard Marles will endorse a new policy which will see Labor go to the election vowing to turn back asylum seeker boats intercepted on the way to Australia.
>The decision will set up a massive brawl with the party’s Left, which opposes turnbacks, and could be undermined almost immediately by a vote at the party’s national conference on Saturday.
https://archive.is/AOKwx
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/623765238718971904
No.24463
Current headline on the ABC News site:
>'Is there anything Bishop actually pays for?'
#shotsfired #rekt
No.24465
https://archive.is/By3Ky
In the process of deflecting attention from his recent RC hearing and the impending inter-party brouhaha over turning back boats, Shorten promises an Emissions Trading Scheme while going all:
>you
>me
>carpark
>now
Where were you, /auspol/, when Strayan political debate turned into spasticated duffers doing bad President Camacho impersonations?
No.24563
Unfortunately, Shorten seems to have won the support of a couple of left-leaning unions on the issue, which makes rejecting turn-backs less likely. But you never know what might actually happen.
No.24569
>>24563
"Unfortunately".
I see you, Merchant.
No.24594
Trying to understand the Greens' immigration policy. On their page it doesn't explicitly make clear what their position is regarding people genuinely found to be refugees. Am I correct to conclude they approve of settlement of all entrants found to be genuine refugees?
No.24595
>>24563
>That picture.
>Muh refugee convention.
Why can't we withdraw from that again?
No.24684
Queensland lagging behind nation on social justice issues
>That's resulted in Queensland, under successive governments, falling behind on addressing social justice issues with politicians neglecting to act until voters begin to care, or even better, wonders why it's even an issue.
>Queensland treats 17-year-olds as adults in the criminal justice system, a left over from when a Labor government introduced its Juvenile Justice Act in 1992, for children aged 10 to 16 year olds. It intended to change the law, which stands in breach of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, to ensure 17-year-olds were considered juveniles. It never did.
> Abortion is covered under the criminal code. Revenge porn is dealt with under a 2004 law that was not designed to deal with today's internet.
>The age of consent stands at 16, except for anal sex, which remains 18, despite changes in every other state and territory. And they are just some of the issues.
https://archive.is/7bwDW
No.24690
>>24563
labor is better than liberal, regardless.
fuck tony abbot and his kike brigade.
No.24692
>>24684
>>The age of consent stands at 16, except for anal sex, which remains 18
Which is fucking outrageous, if I manage to get a 16 year old slut as a girlfriend I should have every right to fuck her up the ass.
No.24693
>>24692
The law is designed to protect boys from predation by older homos.
No.25011
>indecent assault at epping
>police report says perp had 'african appearance'
>7news describes perp as 'dark complexion'
>sydney morning herald : 'dark skin'
>daily telegraph: 'african appearance'
:/ u fukken wot m8
we gon start this shit again? is this because of the african immigrant gangrape of a 14yearold in blacktown/doonside in 2014?
oh look, a 'conservative' news site.
http://conservative-headlines.com/category/world/australia/
No.25013
>>25011
"Dark complexion" sounds like he might just have a tan.
Saying African is best since it narrows it down and rules out abos and those really dark curries.
No.25014
>>25013
dark skin means 4 things for me
>indian/paki
>abo
>Pacific Islanders/Tongans/Samoans and Maoris
>africans
it's political correctness/sjw/commies/melbournian obfuscation of the useful truth again, isn't it? fuck.
australia rotherham when? australia yes when?
No.25036
Australia ranks behind Russia in campaign financing transparancy: study
>Australia lags behind Russia and Thailand but scrapes in ahead of neighbouring Indonesia when it comes to political campaign financing transparency, a global survey has found.
>At a time when political donations and the use of parliamentary entitlements have put a spotlight on the use of public money, the research has found Australia ranks 23 out of 54 countries with a score of just 49%.
https://archive.is/zUMVV
No.25065
>>20638
>It's like Brit/pol/ except we aren't completely cucked yet.
Are you seriously implying that you are less cucked than we are? You are less white, your government is more controlling (yet more lenient to immigrants). Don't play superiority with your brothers, we are all fucked.
Also, Chinese migration to the UK is increasing fast. Got any tips Australians? Migrants who will out compete us for useless accreditation at schools is a relatively new thing.
No.25068
Labor conference rejected push for federal anti-corruption commission
https://archive.is/szwbl
No.25069
>>25014
>melbournian
This is a really fucking stupid meme, Melbourne is bigger than fucking Fitzroy and Brunswick.
Melbourne has a particularly large colony of SJWs/hipsters in its inner city suburbs, Sydney has the same phenomena going on around Newtown, just that it's smaller and there are more chinks crowding them out.
The whole of Melbourne isn't some SJW wonderland, it's a city of more than 4 million people.
No.25075
>>25069
>it's a city of more than 4 million SJWs
FTFY
No.25096
>>25065
Buy a place near a uni and rent out every bit of floor space to students. You can get them to sleep in the laundry and even balconies.
No.25097
>>25069
Melbourne is just newtown as a city don't act like it isn't. At least we've been mostly able to contain them here in Sydney.
No.25106
>>25075
>>25097
Yeah I'm sure there are tons of SJW's in Frankston.
Fuck me dead, even the "enriched" areas like Dandenong or out west don't have them. It really is just the inner suburbs.
This is a fucking stupid meme, some lefties ruined your day a couple of times in/around the CBD so now you and every other stormfag thinks Melbourne's some kind of leftist stronghold because pretending that makes you feel better about your inability to mobilze large numbers of people.
Reality is that Melbourne has far orders of magniture more regular people, bogans, chinks, curries, and africans than it has SJW's.
You can pretty much map where they live via the greens vote actually, and someone already did just that.
(can't post pics cause tor)
http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2012/09/the-greens-versus-labor-geographic-and-educational-dimensions.html
and Sydney has the same pattern.
No.25109
>>25108
lol.
Most of the people who organized the counter rally would be stridently "anti zionist" (wink wink nudge nudge) as opposed to the reclaim cucks prancing around with Israeli flags.
No.25110
>>25108
lol.
Most of the people who organized the counter rally would be stridently "anti zionist" (wink wink nudge nudge) as opposed to the reclaim cucks prancing around with Israeli flags.
No.25114
>>25108
that pic is fucking amazing though, info checks out and that section of the street actually is missing from streetviews.
Fucking hell.
No.25116
>>22888
>insulting ISIS by comparing their policies and rules to the Greens
ISIS actually know how to run whatever fucking city they own. Greens exist only in excessively rich areas.
No.25120
>>25114
Those pesky Jews can't hide forever, I seent it dawg.
No.26190
Tony Burke at it again!
https://archive.is/ycsec
Revenge is a powerful thing. Bourke as opposition house leader probably went in the hardest against Bishop and now he is copping it left right and centre in return.
No.26193
>>26190
He is an ugly cunt. fucking mediocrity fake pretend Aussie bullshit cunt just die.
No.26194
Peter Abetz says Nazi war criminal Great Uncle Otto did some 'positive things'
https://archive.is/submit/
No.26198
>>26194
>disobeying the fuhrer and not razing Paris
>"positive"
No.26200
>>26198
The Nazi's didn't have the manpower or materiel to destroy Paris in 1944, so the actions of the officers who left it intact are literally meaningless.
No.26202
File: 1438862989880.jpg (132.95 KB, 940x627, 940:627, Noel Pearson and Patrick D….jpg)
Tony Abbott's going to sabotage the one good thing he might have actually helped happen during his prime ministership.
https://archive.is/mPTq6
No.26203
>>26202
>special privileges for abos
>good
Yeah, nah don't think so m87.
No.26559
>bloke decides he wants pollies to pay for his family vacation
https://archive.is/y8Q7n
Travel entitlement rules might eventually be redrafted after this enduring shitstorm, but not in any meaningful way that caps expenses or limits business class usage. And the thousands upon thousands of dollars pissed away before their editing will never be reclaimed.
Still, you have to laugh, don't you?
No.26561
>>26559
Every time the cheeky buggers cut their special entitlements they raise their base salary to compensate.
Just watch, they'll do the same again this time but still act like they've done us all a favour.
No.26660
This one came out of the ABC's opinion pages, but still worth a look:
https://archive.is/2dY4o
>Essential Media Communications conducts poll about the Goodes booing being racist
>45% said, "No, it wasn't"
>29% replied, "Yes, it was"
>EMC spokesperson writes about how people just don't recognize how gosh darn racist they are
No.26661
>>26660
I get so triggered by this sort of shit.
Honestly I am starting to mentally opt out of society now. I feel like I am a prisoner on an alien planet.
How did these lefty self-hating cunts come to dominate us like this? They are still only a minority.
No.26672
>>26661
https://thepsychologist.bps.org.uk/volume-21/edition-1/questioning-banality-evil
according to the above journal article, by doing that to everyone, they're shooting themselves in the foot.
They're their own worst enemy, since you, I and every other punter that's sick of this shit will latch onto the first leader that cuts through their crap and promises to restore the country.
The first leader who lets people say "yeah nah, had enough moral posturing for now, get fucked cunts."
That leader will be 2 parts sick cunt, 1 part admirable, but there will likely be that one part jerk in em.
And for whatever part jerk there is, we'll be alright with it, because it's a shitton better than what's going on (currently).
There's nothing worse than living today and feeling nothing you do can change shit, that you have a lack of agency.
An authoritarian leader changes that. Like a lot of the west, we're only one recession away from things being ripe for going full reichmode.
it's empirically noted and shit:
yes, the article has bias, but that's easy to cast aside - the facts remain the facts; we're heading towards the perfect medium for the rise of an authoritarian regime, just like many other countries currently are as well.
No.26673
Even the millenial progressives are agency-less, passive mindas. I told one soapboxing on social media that if he doesn't like being heckled as an umpire, that he should do something about it!
Response - "did that once, nothing changed, they just get one match bans and they're at it again".
Ya gotta wonder, where'd this passive minda mindset come from? thinking that change only needs one attempt to work, before packing it in and having a social media bitch n' moan and smarming over society for such "worrying trends"?
If you want change you gotta do it again, spam someone's email box, call the press, demand the penalties upped, get other umpires.. nah that's effort. Better just bitch and moan about it after every week.
Fuck me. Put Elvis on the line- we all need a little less conversation, a little more action please.
No.26679
>>26672
Anon the problem with that article you linked is it is written from a perspective which takes entirely for granted that "evil" exists and the Nazis are some sort of abhorrent example of it.
If anything, exterminating the other tribe is the normal human way of doing things, and we (for the last few hundred years anyway) are the ones doing something strange (judging outsiders to have the same value as insiders) that is worthy of the investigation.
And it is precisely this weird thing we do which is destroying us. Probably the reason no-one else who survived this far had done it.
No.26712
>>26673
>soft-skinned umpies
Country's fucked.
No.26724
>>26679
Agreed, but as far as I can see it doesn't change the conclusions about the prelude to the Nazis, and how the charismatic Austrian came to be loved, though, in particular the 2) Contexts of crisis and group failure paragraph.
>>26712
makes you wonder whatever happened to "if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen". Goes a bit both ways though because he was umpiring juniors, and some parents are the most aggressive chimps out there because their little angel dindu nuffin ever.
No.26728
>>26724
>some parents are the most aggressive chimps out there because their little angel dindu nuffin
Yeah nah I can sympathise with umps who have to put up with that kind of shit. Hell, I reckon you'd cop the worst sprays at junior matches.
And is it my imagination, or has that level of anger really only become a recent thing? I mean, people have always had a sook over their kids not getting enough free kicks or whatever. But it feels like even a couple of decades ago, someone going off would be told to pull their fucking head in. Nowadays, seems like not enough people nut up and tell them that, y'know, it's a kids' game and that shit's not on.
No.26805
>>26672
>Implying we aren't already under an authoritarian regime
No.27556
Abbott government rocked by gay marriage fight
>There were bitter fights between Minsters. Eric Abetz and Michaelia Cash said ministers who supported gay marriage should resign their positions.
https://archive.is/kW1Mi
No.27557
File: 1439831647680.jpg (78.51 KB, 620x349, 620:349, Asylum seekers on their fi….jpg)
'It's child abuse': Australian doctor brought to tears by treatment of Nauru detainees: https://archive.is/wmLXJ
>"I saw a six-year-old girl who tried to hang herself with a fence tie and had marks around her neck. I've never seen a child self-harm of that age before," Dr Isaacs told ABC's 7.30.
>"After five days, I went home and had nightmares. I didn't expect that.
>"I didn't expect to be so, um, traumatised by these people's trauma. These are people, ordinary people and we're treating them with, um - sorry, we're treating them with incredible cruelty," he said, clearly shaken and upset.
>"It's child abuse. Putting children in detention is child abuse. So, our Government is abusing children in our name," he said.
Adler shotgun importation ban to be lifted after Government cuts deal with David Leyonhjelm: https://archive.is/AoWcS
Union corruption royal commissioner Dyson Heydon billed as star of Liberal Party fundraiser: https://archive.is/5Q1Op
No.27558
>>27557
>I saw a six-year-old girl who tried to hang herself
More like the parents hanged her in an attempt to get sympathy and to be flown to Australia.
No.27562
No.27568
>>27558
I second that notion. Feel sorry for the child though, her parents should be hanged.
No.27585
>>27557
I thought all the asylum seekers would be the ones doing the raping
No.27588
No.27590
>>27562
Common sense is the only citation I need m80.
Six year olds don't attempt suicide.
No.27619
>>27590
>Six year olds don't attempt suicide.
They do when they're on SSRI's or other psych drugs.
I knew of a kid who was put on Ritalin at age 5 and Zoloft when he was like 10 who tried to hang himself with his school jumper in the playground. (tied a shitty knot though).
There's no way to know if kids in these circumstances are getting 'treatment' because they're 'depressed' or 'anxious' at being in detention or just being given shit to dope them up.
Any time you hear of someone doing something crazy, horrific and seemingly out of character, mass killings and parents killing children as well, you should probably consider the possibility that the person was on good-goy pills that happened to mess with them more than intended.
No.28206
Turns out rolling out a national network of any kind is difficult, how about that.
No.28207
Marriage equality is "last week's issue", says Scott Morrison. "We've dealt with it. I strongly suggest people move on."
No.28208
File: 1440182977799.jpg (58.15 KB, 594x350, 297:175, The Abbott cabinet has bee….jpg)
Cabinet functioning 'exceptionally well', says leaked document
>Abbott government ministers have been told to tell federal parliament that cabinet processes are "functioning exceptionally well" if asked about recent Cabinet leaks, according to leaked documents.
https://archive.is/4WWYn
No.28226
>>26661
I feel like we were late to the lefty social justice cuckoldry party unlike Eurofags and Amerilards so now we have to make up for lost time.
No.28238
GST to be applied on all imports:
https://archive.is/nyqNd
>hooray for protectionism!
>what do you mean we don't manufacture anything anymore and this is going to go tits up?
>>28207
If they were past it, they wouldn't be up for discussing it. But no, the plebs should get upset about Morrison's comments and remain outraged at identity politics that effect a tiny minority and definitely not pay attention to the cabinet falling face first in its own sick and the complete lack of output or leadership it's characterised by
No.28242
>>28238
>GST to be applied on all imports
Good. This just levels the taxation playing field between domestic and overseas businesses.
Cunts here go into a small business, try on a pair of expensive shoes to see if they fit, and then fuck off back home and order them from overseas via the internet.
Well now that sort of bullshit will be 10% worse of a proposition. It should steer more trade to Aussie small businesses.
No.28371
File: 1440273696461.jpg (342.21 KB, 1920x1153, 1920:1153, Victorian education minist….jpg)
Scrapping religion classes from schools 'the right thing to do', says Victorian education minister
>Religious instruction will be scrapped from the curriculum of Victorian schools from next year and replaced with education about building respectful relationships, the government announced on Friday.
>The new relationships education program will be taught by qualified teachers and aims to help children understand global cultures and traditions, recognise and prevent family violence, and appreciate and understand diversity.
>Special religious instruction, currently taught during school hours by volunteers, will be moved out of regular class times, freeing 30 minutes a week for the new program.
https://archive.is/MCkbm
No.28378
>>28371
Just changing one form of indoctrination for another.
The new form is probably worse too, even though the morons who taught those religious classes were morons.
No.28380
>>28242
It won't achieve shit, ordering online is still massively cheaper than buying shit from local rip-off merchants.
Unless/until retail rents completely crash, brick and mortar businesses in Australia will be continue to be uncompetitve.
Also why lionize 'small businesses'? there's nothing special about them,in fact they're the ones who are the worst when it comes to hiring chink for $10/hour (like every cafe) and ripping people off over wages and penalty rates.
In my experience most people who run shitty little shops are complete shitbags, and it's not like they're actually producing shit, just retailing it. Every time I've had to deal with someone who own an IGA (always a wog) it's been a nightmare too (I worked in a job whose clients were mostly households and small/medium businesses).
Of course that isn't every small business - they're more than just retailers, but it's only retailers this really applies to in the first place.
No.28381
>>28380
>online is still massively cheaper than buying shit from local rip-off merchants
Well now it is 10% more in favour of local shops, and in marginal cases this will make a difference in choices people make.
Not everything is that much cheaper buying from overseas, especially when you factor in the inconvenience of having to be home to sign for deliveries or go to a post office to pick it up etc.
Making them all pay the same tax since they are serving the same market is just basic fairness.
The only reason people oppose it is because they are mindless consumerist morons who get a dopamine rush from buying "cheap" bullshit they don't really need online.
No.28391
>>28381
>Making them all pay the same tax since they are serving the same market is just basic fairness.
Do you know why it only applied to purchases over $1000 before?
Because it's going to cost far more for the government to charge GST on all online purchases than it will actually collect.
This is a ham-fisted attempt to prop up rip off merchants like Harvey Norman and nothing more.
No.28393
>>28391
Do you know why they are making the change now?
Because they have devised a new way of collecting the tax from foreign retailers that makes it profitable and doesn't inconvenience the customer or involve customs.
No.28402
>>28393
>Because they have devised a new way of collecting the tax from foreign retailers that makes it profitable and doesn't inconvenience the customer or involve customs.
Oh bullshit, it's fantasy, just like it's fantasy that they'll be able to collect HECS debts from Australians overseas anywhere but NZ and the UK.
How do you apply the $75,000 turnover thing to some chink exporter running out of a tiny warehouse by the docks Guangzhou?
What exchange rate do you use? average over the year? at a specific date?
How do you check they're telling the truth?
>"OH YES I HAVE $45,000 YEAR TURNOVER VERY SMALL BUSINESSES"
How do you actually enforce it? what stops them lying? the ATO can't chase them or audit them. The ATO can't keep track of what's going on in Australia, let alone deal with a requirement like this.
But moreover why will they comply at all? Why would they bother incurring any admin costs when they can just send stuff in as 'gifts'?
At which point customs has to police this shit and it starts costing a lot of money.
It's going to be fucking easy to avoid unless customs actually enforces it by checking packages, large companies would probably end up complying but that doesn't matter when people can set up online retailers and on-sell stuff they've obtained elsewhere from whatever jurisdiction they please.
No.28403
>>28402
>At which point customs has to police this shit and it starts costing a lot of money.
But I do think this will happen because this policy has nothing to do with the tax system or revenue and everything to do with helping out mates.
No.28404
>>28402
>>28403
We shall see how it goes. You seem a bit tinfoil on the subject I must say.
No.28412
>>28393
>Because they have devised a new way of collecting the tax from foreign retailers
Can you talk about this in a little more depth, m8?
No.28414
>>28412
Your googling on the subject will be as good as mine m8.
I read it in a news story a couple of weeks back.
If I remember right they are going to make deals with the big foreign retailers. I think it is part of some international scheme too, and based on something either NZ or Canada has also just started.
No.28419
>>28414
You didn't even understand the policy but you were sitting there arguing with me about it?
Ppointless contrarianism from liberal shills as per usual.
>>28412
The plan is to have people who sell stuff into Australia register for GST (which they only have to do if their turnover is over 75,000 a year), basically the same as how it works for businesses in Australia. Basically trying to impose GST collection as it applies to Australian businesses to foreign online retailers.
It's a joke and it's not going to be properly enforceable unless they have customs policing it.
>Meanwhile, Hockey added that taxation officials will travel around the world to get companies (like Amazon, Netflix, Facebook) to register for GST.
They'll probably get the bigger ones to sign up but small online retailers can appear and disappear overnight, the larger effect will be that it'll make smaller online retailers more competitive compared to larger ones. The gap between the likes of Harvey Norman, Dick Smith, etc and online purchases is way too big for 10% to have that much effect for people who are already purchasing online, but it probably will drive purchases away from the likes of amazon relative to smaller retailers who're dodging tax.
No.28420
>>28419
>You didn't even understand the policy
It looks like I did understand it well enough m8. My summation of it was pretty much correct.
No.29779
File: 1441192954820.jpg (5.99 MB, 4498x2699, 4498:2699, Opposition Leader Bill Sho….jpg)
Border Force plan sinks in for Shorten
>Speaking with reporters on the sidelines of the West Australian Labor conference on Saturday, he described it as "one of the most catastrophically silly ideas I've seen this government do".
>"To be honest, I couldn't believe what I was hearing," Mr Shorten said.
>"I'm sure, by the way, that regardless of one's politics, when you first heard about this, you would have gone 'what?'
>"As more facts came to light yesterday, I don't think there's a single Victorian and indeed a single Australian whose jaw just didn't hit the ground.
>"Truly, how dumb is this government some days?
>"I fly out of Melbourne early yesterday morning and Mr Abbott goes and wrecks confidence in my home town as soon as I leave the state."
>Mr Shorten said the government needed to take responsibility for the "quasi police state" plan, rather than blaming whoever wrote the news release.
>"You cannot find a coalition minister, Mr Dutton or Mr Abbott, to explain what's gone on.
>"Here's my prediction: they're going to throw another poor old uniformed person under the bus, so to speak, to take the rap."
https://archive.is/tCHwM
No.29792
>>29779
"it can't be the din duniforms, it's MR ABBOTT"
Pfft. Even if is/isn't abbott's fault, the day beauracracy can do no wrong is the day I eat my hat.
In GDP news, notice how each side can play these short term cards (partisan politics) and it hardly ever blows back on their faces. insulation bungle, Debt and deficit disaster, now the liberals have resided over a deficit. Well now we'll see Labour get their turn to drive the partisan politics in, and load up the Abbott train with economic baggage.
>wot's wong mr abbott why isnt the budget fixed, tell the australian ppl, mr abbott
And then bam, Abbott can blame the previous governments. Labor gets in and presides over another sloppy four years of declining Australia.
And so the cycle of suck repeats itself.
like two parents arguing whose fault it was that their kids leg got scraped because neither was looking. Meanwhile the kid is screaming and bleeding. Fucking heck, just get on and put a bandaid on it you shit parents.
Hell I can't even remember what Labour used to drive the knife in about in the latter Howard years- and 23 million other dementia-addled countrymen along with me, probably.
No.29884
Nauru detention centre not safe for children, says Senate committee calling for full audit into abuse claims
>Senate committee finds conditions are 'not adequate, appropriate or safe'
>Calls for 'full audit' of allegations of sexual abuse
>Recommends all asylum seeker children and their families be removed from Nauru
>Requests reasonable access to detention centre for Human Rights Commission, media
https://archive.is/f5M1f
No.30753
File: 1441819394143.jpg (18.18 KB, 650x366, 325:183, Leigh Sales grilling the P….jpg)
When presented with the question why the major economic indicators had worsened Tony Abbott answered well we stopped the boats.
>Leigh Sales: Let's move on to some other issues Prime Minister starting with the economy. When Labor left office unemployment was 5.8% it's now 6.3%, growth was 2.5% it's now 2.0%, the AUD was 92c it's now around 70c, the budget deficit was $30bn when you took office now it's $48bn. How do you explain to the Australian people promising as you did in your words to "fix the budget emergency" that in fact Australia's economic position has worsened under your leadership.
>Tony Abbott: Well I don't accept that. The boats have stopped…
>Leigh Sales: We're talking about the economy.
>Tony Abbott: The boats have stopped, the carbon tax has gone, the mining tax has gone. We are now on a path to sustainable surplus and we've got three free trade agreements finalised. If only the Labor Party and the CMFEU weren't trying to sabotage the Free Trade Agreement with China. And we've got …
Leigh Sales: Prime Minister, I just ran you through …
https://archive.is/L52ds
No.30754
Australian senator Cory Bernardi criticises Aylan Kurdi's father for fleeing Turkey
>Waves of people are arriving in Europe for “opportunistic” economic reasons rather than because they fear for their lives,the Liberal backbencher Cory Bernardi has argued.
>Speaking on Monday against a Greens motion urging Australia to resettle an extra 20,000 Syrian and Iraqi refugees, Bernardi said the country needed an ordered migration system and could not simply open its borders to anyone.
>“This seems to me to be becoming an opportunistic cycle which is masking the true humanitarian need that is the responsibility of all western nations.”
>Bernardi also criticised the father of Aylan Kurdi, the drowned three-year-old boy whose photograph sparked an outpouring of public sorrow and sympathy.
>“The facts remain that that terrible image was not brought about by recent events in Syria or Iraq,” Bernardi said. “That boy and his family had lived in Turkey for three years. The money for that boy’s father to pay the people smugglers was sent from Canada.
>“The father sent them on that boat so the father could get dental treatment. They were in no fear, they were in no persecution and they were in no danger in Turkey.”
https://archive.is/ed725
No.30755
Operation rescue: the Christians of the Middle East face extinction
>The body of a little boy washes up in the surf on a Turkish beach is photographed and broadcast around the world. The world is appalled.
>But what if the world were to see the real scale of the sectarian civil war dismembering the Arab world? About 12,000 children have been killed in Syria alone.
>Twelve thousand children. This is the estimate of both the Oxford Research Group and the Syrian Observatory of Human Rights. The United Nations has a smaller but still horrific estimate.
>The Abbott government could treble the 6000 refugee number in each of the next four years – 72,000 refugees – and make a real difference, without incurring the wrath of the electorate. But only if it had the courage to give priority to Christians.
https://archive.is/AHHXg
No.31468
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Liberal leadership: Malcolm Turnbull tells Tony Abbott he will challenge
>Former Liberal opposition leader and communications minister Malcolm Turnbull has resigned from Cabinet in an attempt to force a leadership ballot.
>Mr Turnbull has also resigned from Cabinet.
>He and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop met with the Prime Minister to request the leadership ballot earlier today.
>"A little while ago I met with the Prime Minister and advised him that I would be challenging him for the leadership of the Liberal Party," Mr Turnbull told reporters at Federal Parliament.
>"Now this is not a decision that anyone could take lightly. I have consulted with many, many colleagues, many Australians, many of our supporters in every walk of life.
>"This course of action has been urged on me by many people over a long period of time.
https://archive.is/ba2ME
No.32090
Malcolm Bligh Turnbull might take GST hike to the next election, says Josh Frydenberg
>Assistant Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has raised the prospect of the Turnbull government taking an increase in the goods and services tax to the next election.
https://archive.is/sU8O6
No.32099
>>22694
>Christian semitic
literally the worst of both worlds.
No.32178
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https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/29570857/hoon-teen-s-cowardly-train-attack/?cmp=yfb
>3 vs 1 on train to Mandurah
>It shows one of the three youths involved walking the length of a near-empty carriage to urinate in the corner.
>Two teenagers soon join him and within seconds the trio turn their attention to a defenceless 17-year-old sitting on a nearby seat.
>The teens pummel the lone stranger on the train, kicking and punching him repeatedly as he lies across a seat until a woman steps in and breaks up the fight.
>Three days after one of the boys appeared in court charged over the assault, he got behind the wheel of a friend’s car while drunk and unlicensed.
looks like niggers to me.
No.32181
>>32178
LET'S IMPORT MORE OF THEM
No.32183
Thursday, 17 September 2015 11:12:12 PM
https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/latest_releases?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGNDg3MDYuaHRtbCZhbGw9MQ%3D%3D
Police are appealing for public assistance after a child was grabbed by a man in Sydney’s north west today.
About 12.45pm (Thursday 17 September 2015), an 11-year-old boy was riding his scooter on the footpath on Riverbank Road, The Ponds, when he stopped outside The Ponds Community Hub.
The boy fought the man off before immediately leaving the scene on his scooter. He was uninjured.
The man has been described as having dark skin, 175cm tall, of thin to medium build, 35-45 years old, short black stubble, black hair of medium length in a messy style, and at the time he was wearing a plain black shirt, blue or black coloured three quarter length denim pants, and black Nike shoes with white soles.
No.32734
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'They will never come to Australia': Turnbull maintains tough stance on asylum seekers
>Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has emphatically stated that asylum seekers on Manus Island and Nauru will never be resettled in Australia.
>'It is absolutely clear that there will be no resettlement of people on Manus Island and Nauru in Australia. They will never come to Australia,' he said.
>'I know that's tough. You could say we have a harsh border protection policy, but it has worked.'
>The conditions of Australia's offshore detention centres have been the subject of continued criticism, and Turnbull admitted to concern over their current standard.
>'Of course we're concerned about conditions there. Who would not be concerned about it?' he said.
>'It is not an ideal environment. We are doing everything we can to encourage them to return from whence they came.
>'I know it is tough, but the fact is that we cannot take a backward step on this issue.'
https://archive.is/BiJOe
No.32735
Malcolm Turnbull: Sunday penalty rates up for consideration by new government
>Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says the government will consider reducing Sunday penalty rates in a bold move that could set up a WorkChoices style-election fight between the Coalition and the Labor party and unions.
>But the new Prime Minister appeared ready to take on the labour movement, accusing the CFMEU and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten of trying to "frighten" the Australian people into poverty over the China-Australia free trade agreement.
>The Coalition has been timid on the issue of industrial relations ever since John Howard's WorkChoices policy backfired and contributed to his defeat in 2007.
>This is despite sustained pressure from Liberal backbenchers who want the government to intervene, rather than wait for employers and unions to negotiate lower penalty rate deals as is allowed under Labor's Fair Work Act.
>But the new Prime Minister appeared ready to take the labour movement head on and launched an attack on Opposition Leader Bill Shorten for "bobbing" along with the Construction and Mining Union's "extreme" and "aggressively anti-Chinese" scare campaign.
>The unions oppose a single provision in the agreement that would allow Chinese workers to be imported to work on major infrastructure projects.
>The Department of Foreign Affairs says on its website that skilled labourers will only be given visas to work in Australia if no local workers can be found.
>"The China Australia Free Trade Agreement will not allow unrestricted access to the Australian labour market by Chinese workers," the department said on its website.
>"It will not allow Australian employment laws or conditions to be undermined, nor allow companies to avoid paying Australian wages by using foreign workers."
>The Construction, Forestry and Mining Union is running a national television campaign claiming Australian workers could be replaced by Chinese workers. https://youtu.be/WuYuMmG7Dz0
>Mr Turnbull condemned the advertisements as "extreme scare-mongering" "designed to frighten people back into poverty".
>And he said the Opposition Leader Bill Shorten's silence showed the Labor party would always kowtow to its fundraising arm, even if it cost the national interest.
>"We're always open to talks … but his problem is that the CFMEU has run an extreme, scare-mongering campaign designed to frighten people which is aggressively anti-Chinese and absolutely contrary to our national interest," he said.
>"And because he has been silent … the only reasonable assumption is that he endorses it."
>"He is just bobbing along like a cork in the slipstream of the CFMEU," he said.
>Mr Turnbull promised to provide voters with an economic plan and said he would first show the public where he wants to charter the economy and the budget.
>"We have already seen a rise in business confidence because we have a government that is talking confidently about our future and is talking optimistically about our future," he said.
>"Its important that people understand where we want to get to and then of course we will design the policies we hope will take us on that journey," he said.
>He said well considered decisions fostering productivity and innovation could be made quickly without being rushed but refused to say if new economic policies would be presented by the year's end.
>The Member for Wentworth said he had no plans to stray from the scheduled election timing when asked if it is still due around spring next year: "That's certainly what I'm assuming, unless you have a better idea … that's definitely the plan," he said.
https://archive.is/euFmB
No.32737
>>32735
Penalty rates are a joke. Long past time they were gotten rid of entirely.
No.32800
>>32183
They didn't catch the guy on camera? Almost sounds a bit like my uncle (right height and look) who recently had a mental breakdown and is supposed to be taking anti-psychotics.
No.33240
>>21619
You don't have to worry about that anymore.
No.33261
>>32734
Why don't they just deport the rapists? Offshore detention is retarded what's the point in keeping them there instead of sending them somewhere else?
No.33315
>>32737
I'm fine with getting rid of penalty rates as long as they get rid of them for EVERYBODY.
Not just poorly paid hospitality workers.
Police.
Nurses/doctors.
Public servants - especially the public servants.
Ban penalty rates from Enterprize Bargaining Agreements and Individual contracts as well as stripping them from awards - if we live in a 24/7 society there's no place for penalty rates do away with them completely. Nobody gets them since after all, they're 'a joke' so they should be banned completely.
Of course that won't happen, all the little cunts in the Public Service will still get their double time (and double their 70+k base pay) for coming in on Sunday cause there was photo copying that didn't get done on Friday cause of the charity morning tea. (tee hee!)
nah they'll keep theirs hey, they're 'important'.
No.33317
>>33315
>poorly paid hospitality workers.
No-one in this country is poorly paid. The only exception is people who get scammed by dodgy contract work or whatever.
It is the people without a job at all who are the only people entitled to complain.
No.33324
>>33317
>No-one in this country is poorly paid
$20 an hour for what could be 30 hours one week, 10 the next is fuck all given the cost of living. Fuck just look at rents, let alone the cost of buying a house.
There's absolutely no reason to seek to water down the entitlements that workers have, none at all.
People forget what it was actually like before this bullshit started, people from my parents generation bought decent houses even when they were couples comprised of a labourer and a check out chick.
You would need to be getting an absolutely astronomical amount of money to be able to afford the sort of standard of living that you could get with $100,000 a year in 1990. Far far more than inflation calculations imply.
No.33345
>>33317
>No-one in this country is poorly paid
But that means nothing if the cost of living is expensive. If I have no disposable income then I can't even buy shit online to make it worth it.
No.33366
>>33324
>$20 an hour for what could be 30 hours one week, 10 the next is fuck all given the cost of living. Fuck just look at rents, let alone the cost of buying a house.
Agree. I don't think the answer is higher wages. We need to collapse the housing market. It is designed to keep people out. There are rules in place that reward having rental properties. But having rental properties is keeping new home buyers out. We need to make it illegal to own more than one house. There could be exceptions for holiday houses or something.
This would never happen but it could if our politicians weren't kike controlled cucks. The cost of living is to blame for our problems. Wages are fine.
No.33367
>>33366
I forgot to mention that many politicians own lots of houses. On average the difference between them and the average is fucking significant. They are looking after their own self interest.
Our ancestors were born onto land. They didn't have to rent shit, or pay 100s of thousands of dollars in interest on loans. SO WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I? FUCK THIS SHIT. It's unnecessary and a fucking scam. THIS IS SLAVERY. Both rent and interest is going to the ownership class, in each of these cases they are not producing shit or doing any work, it's money for nothing.
Pic related in case some conservacuck calls me a commie
No.33373
>>33367
>Our ancestors were born onto land. They didn't have to rent shit, or pay 100s of thousands of dollars in interest on loans. SO WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I? FUCK THIS SHIT. It's unnecessary and a fucking scam. THIS IS SLAVERY. Both rent and interest is going to the ownership class, in each of these cases they are not producing shit or doing any work, it's money for nothing.
And then we pay tax on top of that.
No.33374
>>33373
And then those house owners claim a loss on their rentals and negative gear their way to free gubbermint offset monies effectivley collecting double rent on each property.
And don't even get me started on people letting to the DHA scheme. I well wish I had a spare house to rent to DHA.
No.33431
Turnbull government shelves controversial university reforms in major departure from Abbott era
>The Turnbull government has dropped its plan to allow universities to set their own fees from next year, and will go back to the drawing board on higher education reform.
>To those who claim consideration of reform is about ideology or privilege, you are dead wrong
>Former prime minister Anthony John "Tony" Abbott immediately condemned the decision, saying he was "disappointed".
>"I'm a little disappointed by it and, frankly, I am disappointed that the people who call for reform did not get behind the 2014 budget," Mr Abbott told 3AW host Neil Mitchell.
>"With only three months left in 2015, it is necessary to give both universities and students certainty about what the higher education funding arrangements for 2016 will be," Senator Birmingham will say in a speech to the University of Melbourne.
>"Therefore, today I am announcing that higher education funding arrangements for 2016 will not be changed from currently legislated arrangements, while the government consults further on reforms for the future.
>"Any reforms, should they be legislated, would not commence until 2017 at the earliest."
>"To those who claim consideration of reform is about ideology or privilege, you are dead wrong. I will only ever champion reforms that achieve both equity and excellence. I invite ideas and conversations about how to achieve such equity and excellence in higher education, while honestly recognising the financial limitations of taxpayers," he said.
https://archive.is/tpWAv
No.33433
>>33366
>>33367
>>33374
dont forget that non-citizen can also buy property in Australia, they just pay more tax!
it's fucking ridiculous whats like $20,000 to some gook billionaire. And we have to deal with the artificial demand.
No.33436
Malcolm Bligh Turnbull Is A Ghost
>Turnbull, however, is untethered from a Tory pantheon or spiritual purpose, as Abbott imagined himself to have. He’s just a fleshy vessel for the whims of the global market, aided and abetted by the same corporate progressive instincts that inspire banking conglomerates to support Sydney Mardi Gras. Remember the GayTM? Turnbull is a GayTM.
>The rightwing loons that are currently losing their minds over Turnbull as emblematic of new wilderness years for conservatives are right on one thing: of course he is where he is because of the naked pursuit of power. That’s how these things work. But more than anything, Malcolm Turnbull is a ghost, who has haunted every aspect of our politics with the promise of a slightly politer life for over ten years. Let’s see where that goes.
https://archive.is/cWM4t
No.33469
>>33431
>and will go back to the drawing board on higher education reform
He's an idea, how about they set some fucking standards? Start treating them as education facilities instead of businesses.
No.34785
File: 1444893427647.jpg (51.63 KB, 634x422, 317:211, Mr Carlyle-Watson “activel….jpg)
>Five charged over sexual assault of teenage girl at St Clair
>Thursday, 15 October 2015 04:13:55 AM
Four men and a teenage boy have been arrested in Sydney’s west in relation to the alleged sexual assault in company of a 16-year-old girl at a party earlier this year.
In May, police seized a go-pro camera as part of a police operation targeting graffiti offences and found a video depicting multiple sexual assaults of a teenage girl by a number of male offenders.
Police will allege up to eight males were in the room at the time of the assaults, with a number of them sexually assaulting the girl.
The matter was referred to State Crime Command’s Child Abuse Squad and detectives were able to determine the assaults took place at a party in St Clair, in western Sydney, in May this year.
The incident had not been reported to police but the teenage girl has since been identified and spoken to.
Yesterday (Wednesday 14 October 2015), police arrested four men and one teenager, all of whom have been charged in relation to the sexual assaults.
A 17-year-old boy was arrested at a home on Discovery Avenue, Willmot, and taken to Mt Druitt Police Station where he was charged with:
- Aggravated sexual assault in company x 2;
- Attempted aggravated sexual assault;
- Aggravated indecent assault x 2; and,
- Resist police.
He has been bail-refused to appear at a children’s court today (Thursday 15 October 2015).
A 24-year-old man was arrested at Penrith Police Station and charged with:
- Aggravated sexual assault in company x 3.
He has been refused bail to appear at Penrith Local Court today.
Another 24-year-old man was arrested at Mt Druitt Police Station and charged with:
- Aggravated sexual assault in company; and,
- Filming a person engaged in a private act.
He too has been refused bail and is scheduled to appear in Mt Druitt Local Court today.
A 23-year-old man was arrested at Penrith Police Station and charged with:
- Aggravated sexual assault in company; and,
- Aggravated Indecent Assault.
Bail refused, he is due before Penrith Local Court today.
A 25-year-old man was arrested at St Marys Police Station and charged with conceal serious indictable offence.
He is also bail-refused to appear before Penrith Local Court today.
source:http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/latest_releases?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGNDkyNDYuaHRtbCZhbGw9MQ%3D%3D
No.34788
>>34785
And they would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling policemen
No.35301
>>27563
why the fuck arent we out killing jews right now? im so confused
No.35849
Bad Day Bill decides he's not getting any attention on issues of importance; makes one up:
https://archive.is/T8e5A
>"Mr Shorten cited data from the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) showing 400,000 people aged 18 to 24 did not enrol to vote in time for the last federal election."
So rather than fix the fundamental disengagement with politics/ voting that is driving that lack of enrollment, he wants to give even more Strayans the opportunity to not enroll?
No.35852
>>35849
We should get paid to vote
No.35853
>>35849
"Young Australians"
Just a bunch of fuckin gooks
No.35901
>>35849
Labour and Greens know that idiot young people will vote for them, especially the Greens, its why they push it so much. Giving the vote who haven't even finished high school is fucking retarded.
You should only be able to vote if you're over the age of 25, own property or have a post-graduate degree from University. Direct Democracy only.
"Democracy" as it is today is a shame where political parties exist solely to scrounge votes from the retarded masses rather than better the nation.
No.35919
>>35901
>implying that Labor or the Greens are any worse than the Liberals
>implying I should care which band of assholes is selling off the country at any given time
No.35920
>>35901
oh and:
>own property
Yeah great plan. You know how governments of both sides pander to the boomers and deliberately enact/maintain policies that make housing unaffordable to the majority of people?
Your retarded idea would make that 1000 times worse for very obvious reasons.
No.35921
>>35852
They kinda do that at some universities.
ie: you get a $5 food voucher that can be spent at any of the student union run outlets.
No.35957
I came up with a new immigration policy that's easy to understand and fun to say!
If its white your alright
If its black send it back
If its brown let it drown
No.35961
>>35920
No, just buy 1 square meter of land in Tasmania.
No.35962
No.35968
>>35901
Lmao. Most liberal voters are either old fucks and boomers or uneducated bogans, such as yourself. Uneducated, anti-intellectual swine. Good shabbos goy, kill yourself.
No.35981
>>35968
>anti-intellectual
"Intellectualism" is just Marxism m8
No.35982
>>35901
>be a rent-seeker
>have a post-graduate degree in Wymn's Studies
>you now have more voting power than the average Australian male
Thought that through well, sunshine.
No.35995
No.35999
>>35968
do I detect the distinct whine of a self-hating white?
No.36000
or maybe an ((australian))
No.36001
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>>35999
How the fuck did you get the idea I'm a self hating white?
Is this the best you libtards can come up with?
No.36082
4 men wanted over gangrape of 14yearold girl
Geelong, St Albans park
>in the early hours of Sunday 1 November 2015.
http://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/news/8279-sexual-offence-st-albans-park-geelong.html
No.36091
>>35982
>implying Universities won't be defunded to the point of scrapping the entire Humanities department
Checkmate goy
No.36159
>>36091
Why would they? Humanities departments are a cash cow for them, there's no resources needed or expensive labs, with more and more fuckwit products of narcissistic culture enrolling in arts, taking on postgrad study and honors years to keep procrastinating real life, I'd say uni's profit a lot from humanities.
No.36166
>>36082
but i thought dey waz ayyrabs
No.36220
>>36001
tfw I made this and I see people repost it.
proud feel
No.36631
Kevin Thomson's take on penalty rates
No.36661
>>36159
The biggest cashcows are the business schools where chinks pay $20,000 a semester to study accounting or whatever.
No.36695
>>36082
She was askin for it all dressed up like that
No.36767
Curious as to why our Jew supporting moderators felt the need to delete my infographics.
No.36820
>>36767
>>36768
>MSPaint infographics without any discussion
>spurdo comics as news
>I SWEAR THE BO IS A KIKE, GUYS!
Maybe he just deleted them because you're a dumbfuck?
Let Noni and Humpty show you how to build a pretty hat out of that tinfoil, instead of eating it like you always do, you silly sausage!
No.38729
>>36767
>>36768
Sorry for the late response, didn't see this post until just now.
I haven't touched this thread and as far as I'm aware neither have the janitors. If you still happen to be around, can you give me a rough idea of the date these posts were made and the date that they seem to have been deleted, so that I can try and identify anything in the board logs that might match this?
No.38744
>>22009
Well there were the only cunts around when we turned up to kick them off the land we wanted.
Mungo man was so long gone, its barely worth a footnote.
No.38857
>>35982
why not go 'starship troopers' and make voting dependent on military service.
I mean if you don't have the balls to put your life on the line for the country, why should you have a say in its operation?
checkmate wymns studies.
No.38865
>>38857
If the armed forces weren't so small then I'd probably support such an idea. It worked in Starship Troopers because they always needed more troops, so voting rights were an incentive to join. Straya has such a small army that the voting pool would always be quite small - that's a potential problem because all it would take is manipulation of the recruitment process by the government (for example, using a dodgy psych eval test that gives a rough suggestion of someone's political ideology) and hey presto, you've stacked things in your party's odds by only allowing people into the voting pool who are likely to vote for you.
At that point you may as well do away with the whole charade of democracy and just go full dictatorship.
No.38870
>>38857
I wouldn't mind putting my life on the line for my country if my country respected my life in return. I don't want to risk my life protecting israel, or risk it to just see Australia get filled up with indians and chinese who wouldn't even consider the armed forces.
No.38907
When did we start to head down the shitter lads?
When did our policy makers start to heed the call of the Jews? When did it no longer start being about us, the Australians?
No.38916
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>>38907
>When did our policy makers start to heed the call of the Jews? When did it no longer start being about us, the Australians?
The rulers of men were twisted and corrupted in their souls by the shekels of the dark lord Shlomo. Greed has entered their hearts like a cancer - all that they want, all that they desire, will be given as long as they do their master's bidding. The problem with greed is that it's a hunger which is never fully satisfied…
Nine shekels for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Israel where the Shadows lie.
One Shekel to rule them all, One Shekel to find them,
One Shekel to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Israel where the Shadows lie.
No.38962
>>38865
sure there is a risk of a ideologically selected army, but if that was the case the army would be so small it would not be able to defend the nation. Also such an army would be so small that a small shift in political perception in the army would would cause dramatic shifts in politics. Such an army's leaders would not be safe for long from their own army.
No.38969
No.39045
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/video-shows-woman-threatening-passenger-with-chisel-on-sydney-train/ar-BBnYb5b?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=iehp
Bloke disarms abbo who threatens a Chinese chappie with a cold chisel. Last train out of Campsie's almost gone
Bets on how it's going to be spun, goys guys?
No.39094
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National women's anti-violence group loses funding, could close
>A national organisation that supports women's health and anti-violence agenda has lost federal government funding and could close in the next year unless a new funding source is found.
>National Women's Health Network is scrambling to find a new funding partner after it was told its application for a new round of funding from the Department of Health and Ageing was unsuccessful.
>There are now fears that dozens of women's health and anti-violence organisations across the country will be unable to advance their causes on a national level any more.
>The organisation will use its small cash reserves to fund its CEO and administration staff until the end of next year, but beyond that, its future is unclear.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/victoria/national-womens-antiviolence-group-losses-funding-could-close-20151224-gluvge.html
No.39103
>>39094
>lobbyists complaining they're not getting funding from the government so they can't effectively influence government policies
No.40708
>>40700
It should be legal for Abos to commit crimes against other Abos.
No.40743
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Fifield tells a Smug Feminist to get a grip and she's not at a Melbourne Uni Student Union rally.
Fifield is a stooge, but at least he's a clear-thinking one.
No.40774
>>40743
Should have just told her to stop being a dumb cunt
No.40874
>>40743
There's no such thing as "womansplaining", only nagging