/aus/ - Australia

>>40465

I've love a 24 hour Library Cafe.

>3am

>NEET

>Internet is shit tonight

>go to Library Cafe

>have a Flat White

>3D Print a catgirl

>read one of those shitty $60 'Maker' magazines full of content you've already seen

>get some steamed pork dumplings

>photograph the cat that hangs around

So my lifestyle isn't that of a GymBro. Fuck you.

Yup. I'm not one much for the nightlife, but this nanny-state bullshit… They've destroyed the local economy and lost us so much in tourism, all because some dickhead punched some other dickhead to the floor, further cracking his dickhead skull and ending up in his dickhead death. Dickheads.

>>40473

It's fucking Newtown, not a place anyone was interested in except for a tiny section of the community that's grossly over-represented on Soshal Meeda.

>ima redpill

>but i swallow and follow the agendas of bluepills anyway

>>40477

…The lockout laws aren't limited to Newtown.

>>40483

>>40477

The lockout laws don't even apply to Newtown.

After the laws were imposed a lot of people who used to go to the cross started going to Newtown because it's outside the lockout zone, and it caused a lot of trouble.

Venues in Newtown adopted voluntary lockouts as a result cause the new traffic was actually driving away their regular clientele but they aren't actually forced to do it.

It's not just the lockouts, it's the fucking fun police cracking down on everything. Fucking curfew on Kebab shops, restaurants getting raided by police for selling wine past 10pm, insane crack down on doofs police fining people in bumfuck nowhere having a party on private property disturbing nobody tens of thousands of dollars for maybe a 100 people and a sound system.

Australia already had a strong nannystate fucking strain through it, but it's kicking into overdrive. States like Queensland, ACT etc want to copy NSW as well.

raise legal drinking age to 21

>>40467

>i have love a

wot

>i'd love a

do it

>i have a

what's a library cafe

>>40460

doesn't the rest of the world have drunk deaths in their booze zones?

>>40496

>doesn't the rest of the world have drunk deaths in their booze zones?

Yes but I don't think too the same level apart from the US.

Australia has a really fucking shit violent drunk culture because of the whole ultra-masculine roid munching culture here.

>>40496

Yeah, fuss over one tyop like a fag

>what's a library cafe

A library, with a Cafe. The NSW State Library near Martin Place has one, and their prices are decent as Sydney Cafes go. …but the place is only open during office hours. And it's like 160 kms from here. Meh.

Elsewhere in the world, there's 24/7 Manga Cafes, and the like. Even Melbourne caters for the late-nighter.

The fun-police haven't quite destroyed the nightlife here in Adelaide, but the shitty economy and ridiculous expense of going out is sure as fuck taking care of what's left.

Honestly, me and my friends rarely go out ever these days, we just can't afford it. It's cheaper and more fun to just go to the bottleshop and then hang out at someone's house. It kind of feels like being a teenager again, only now you can drink openly around your friend's parents.

>>40505

>nonsensical sentence

>wish for something that doesn't exist

>something that does exist

there's some room for interpretation in that typo

>italics for fag

watta poofta

Please don't link directly to The Guardian. It's even worse than linking to Reddit. Here's an archive.is link:

https://archive.is/hNNKs

Also nightclubs are a failing sector worldwide at the moment so there's more than just restrictive laws contributing to it. They're going out of style for the moment.

>>40533

>Also nightclubs are a failing sector worldwide at the moment so there's more than just restrictive laws contributing to it. They're going out of style for the moment.

You got some sources on that? Sounds interesting.

>>40533

>Bar culture from Cheers

>Coffee house culture from friends

What's it gonna be now?

>>40460

Interesting story, it started as ">normie problems: the tl;dr" but then actually started exploring some interesting stuff with the out of control nannystate complex pervasive in all of modern Australia.

>>40549

I read it on Yahoo! News a few weeks ago. It included a chart listing under-performing industries in Australia and the expected trends for this year. I can't find the same article but this is the closest I can get:

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/why-the-aussie-nightclub-industry-is-dying-041721735.html

It says that people are turning away from nightclubs due to the lockout laws and the perceived violence, and that this trend is Australia-wide. Bar culture is apparently taking its place and young people are drinking fewer alcoholic drinks overall as well (probably because it's so expensive nowadays). It doesn't mention the overall international trend, but here's a British article I found that explores the nightclub downturn there with many of the causes being similar:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/leisure/11794792/Why-are-Britains-nightclubs-in-such-a-desperate-situation.html

>theguardian talking about fun police

>>40564

Yeah I'd believe it about the expense.

When I was 18-20 you could go out on thursday night and between 10 and 11pm one of the bars had $1 basics, and you could get $2 basics most of the night.

Even on fridays you could get $3 basics if you knew where to go.

Inflation overall hasn't been that bad since then but the price of drinks has more or less doubled.

Meanwhile back then, it was piss easy to get a casual job while now chinks and indans have all the jobs students and other young people used to do.

To add to that, now there's fucking tinder, so going to the club and trying to pick up isn't the only option for people seeking casual sex.

>>40574

price doubled, and you'd never get a $2 basics deal ever.

>>40564

Nice m8, thanks for the links. Pretty much matches up with what I've been observing over the last several years. I do find it interesting though that these articles are focusing specifically on the over-regulation aspect of the dying industry while paying little attention to the other equally important aspect - the main customer demographic for nightclubs (people in their 20's) just cannot afford to go out anymore, due to a combination of absurd drink prices and overall lack of money in wallets.

Local governments can be cunts all they want but I doubt nightclubs would be quite as thoroughly on their knees as they are if people actually had the money to go to them.

As an amusing aside, the Yahoo article had this in the middle of it:

>Also read: Bar with no alcohol fails within weeks of opening

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/bar-with-no-alcohol-fails-after-five-weeks-052307720.html

I giggled.

>>40575

theres a bar in sydney on the corner of george street and king street? above the hungry jacks

3 dollar beers, 3 dollar spirits open 24 hours a day

I'd like to say its called Corner Bar, but i cant remember the name. It's still going. same prices.

everywhere else in the city is like 8 or 9 dollars a fucking beer

A lot of the regulation is aimed at killing bars and clubs though.

There is a incredibly puritan conservative strain going through Politics at the moment, in my opinion it's the final dying throes of the War on Drugs, that they realize the WoD has failed, Weed will be legal within the decade with MDMA following and instead of accepting it, they lash out at everything they consider "Degenerate".

They've cracked down like Bush Doofs as well like never before, when we used to throw a party, we could just shoot a letter off to the local council, say we are holding a party here, pay a small fee, prove we have first aid and toilets, and let it go, now because of State pressure, we have to go through like fucking 100 different agencies, get approvals for stupid amount of shit, have local business and community support etc pay thousands in fees or cop tens of thousands in fines.

The entire point is so we can never, ever have our parties, be it on public or private land, they know nobody will go through all those retarded bureaucratic shit for a party that will draw maybe 50-150 people.

>>40647

wouldn't it be affected by the lockout laws now?

Someone suggested #itspastmybairdtime

… short shameful confession: I lol'd

>>40647

Fairly sure that's Bar Century, and it's closing down.

I've never been one for nightclubs (the couple of times I've been, I've actually disliked it a lot), but this is further proof that the nanny statism in Australia is out of control and actively ducking making life worse for everyone. Sort of annoying that losing their centres of degeneracy is what made the normies wake up to this shit, but it's better late than never.

>>40702

Nanny State my Arse. It's about sending people to the Casino.

Every NSW State Premier has received brown paper bags of cash from Organized Crime for favorable treatment, Baird's no different.

(Yes, for the clueless Millennials, the Packer Empire is involved with criminal syndicates.)

They brought out the lockout laws in Perth back in 2010, Northbridge has gone to shit and the only bars/clubs open till 5 are the shit ones and a gay bar.

>>40702

Unfortunately your average moron only care about engaging in acts of degeneracy rather that the implications of an overbearing nanny state which means that if/when these laws are repealed they'll stop caring about all the other issues that are at stake and go right back to drinking themselves half to death and then slumping on the pavement every week. So really you might argue they haven't "woken up" at all as they're not necessarily seeing the big picture.

It looks like they're about to do a high court review into the laws because of all of this recent commotion which may be interesting:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-11/former-high-court-judge-sydney-lockout-laws-ian-callinan/7160742

https://archive.is/A2NHW

>>40646

I think there are also more subtle things that might be preventing young folks from going out such as restrictive P plate license terms in several states which usually involve a zero BAC along with ridiculous late night curfews regarding how many passengers one may bring along with them while driving after midnight. The police are known to pick on P drivers as well which ends up being yet another obstacle to going to a licensed venue at night.

Public transportation is often shitty as well after a certain time, and these lockout laws were also brought in as a really shitty way to deal with inadequate public transport around King's Cross. For example the last train to Bondi leaves The Cross at 12:40am, with the last train going the other way leaving just after 1am. Instead of running more rail services like they should have after 1am, they implemented some sort of half-baked bus link-up service. Not everyone can necessarily afford a taxicab fare either and I don't know how well Uber works for that kind of thing. In fact here's an old article about how little the buses are used:

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/kings-cross-latenight-bus-service-a-flop-20140819-105qy4.html

https://archive.is/0slUn

>>40705

>It's about sending people to the Casino.

Same in South Australia. The only place exempt from the lockout laws here is the casino.

It's absolute bullshit that one particular business gets to be exempt from a law that applies to everyone else. Reeks of corruption and hands in pockets.

>>40706

Because every fucking weekend retarded normies were getting their faces shredded and heads pounded into curbs. Shit cunts who get violent when on alcohol need to be fucking euthanized.

>>40705

>Crown Casino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sO8LwRHo6E

This video is fucking jaw dropping.

The Crown Casino is basically exempt from every law in existence.

>>40749

The last head of State in NSW to /not/ exempt Organized Crime from every law in existence was Governor Macquarie.

>>40489

>curfew on Kebab shops

Why? Now there's only fucking Maccas that'll be open.

Can't tell this place used to be a prison colony with all these "No Fun Allowed" rules.

>>40749

the guy looks like a jew, what ya doing watching that shit son?

>>41397

You look like a Jew.

>>41397

jew or not, he's a "lord of the basic plebs". Find what basic plebs get uppity about and make an impotent song and dance about it.

However, all involved will have a complete lack of agency besides "raising awareness". Despite social power he's not going to do anything with it!

He and followers get their social signalling points; their opposition gets to take the cake.

>>41413

no, he's a fucking ugly filthy fucking jew and just because he's coincidentally right about lockout laws doesnt mean he isnt a fucking rat and a traitor

>>41380

>Why? Now there's only fucking Maccas that'll be open.

I think you just answered your own question.

If you don't get it, look at which large prominent establishment is excluded from existing lockout laws - the Casino.

Big business always gets its own way to the detriment of smaller businesses. One law for them, one law for everyone else.

hmm if SA relaxed its laws, we could become the fun state and (probably) offset our current faceplanting into dust and oblivion

how 2 make SA gr8 agen:

>nook dump in dat desert

>no lockout laws in radelaide- fun allowed

>lower the premise-sold booze tax and other taxes + sunday shift penalty rates

> (tbh boongs and alotta other troublemakers only buy from bottleos so a fuggin pub can look after people more)

>encourage an 'o clock swill for the sake of creating beer culture out of thin air (don't ban beer after it, just make it a lower excise time or something)

>encourage beer and other good shit in and around the cricket

>all this joined with mad march (fringe festival + clipsal)

how 2 make SA even gr8er

>state own the electricity transmission network (again)

>mandate no raw mineral sales from SA, only refined products (including uranium- must be pelletised and encapsulated rather than selling raw yella-cake)

>build a nook plant, cheap electricity for SA

>sell excess electricity at inflated price to other states

>if possible, sell at a cheaper price than eastern coal plants can afford

>control the spice

>???

>win everything

>>41517

>Public sector owning electricity network

Explain yourself you hoodlum.

>>41593

Not him, but it's fairly simple.

>water utilities

>still publicly owned

>SA Water has been upgrading pipelines and built an entire fucking $2 billion desalination plant during the last decade

>water bills are still reasonable

>electrical utilities

>went private several years ago

>electrical bills have gone up several billion percent in the interim

>uses lame excuse of upgrading infrastructure, also cries about competition from increased use of solar panels by private households

>increased use of solar panels brought on by EXORBITANT FUCKING ELECTRIC PRICES

Yeah nah, when it comes to fucking utilities I'll take public any day. I've seen it in the UK and a few other countries - public utilities get sold off, bills go up massively, private companies report massive profits and shareholder dividends each year while repeatedly using the excuse that they've been upgrading infrastructure. Then once that excuse runs out of time they just keep saying "it's expensive to run a power network". NO FUCKING SHIT IT'S EXPENSIVE WHEN YOU'RE GIVING NEARLY $10 BILLION TO YOUR CUNT SHAREHOLDERS EACH YEAR YOU FUCKING SHITS.

>>41597

the reason power in sa is expensive is their retarded renewable subsidies you idiot.

>>41614

Yuh huh. I'm sure it has nothing to do with them spending the equivalent of 2 NBNs over the last decade rebuilding all their infrastructure for no real reason.

https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2014/july/1404136800/jess-hill/power-corrupts

>>41619

it was not NO REASON, it was because of a feed in tariff that they had to pay to people who were connected to the grid and using the grid but not PAYING for the grid.

>>41625

> cheap SA power

Nuclear is actually really fucking expensive.

>hurr you just shovel that uranium dirts into the reactor and nuke it and get free electricity

>and after you've made megabucks just dig a whole in the ground and bury it real deep

Try to find a Nuclear Power Station anywhere in the world that has ever had a LCC in the black.

You can't.

>1980s

>Ronnie Reagan wants moar newclear power

>Congress wants moar newclear power

>Offers of +$2b government subsidies per power station build

>"uh, we'll want another $5b to break even"

…and that was back when there was still clean yellowcake in the world to use.

>>41629

>Try to find a Nuclear Power Station anywhere in the world that has ever had a LCC in the black.

got a link for this? (or what search terms I should be looking up).. I don't doubt this for America but find it difficult to believe globally. (that recent piece on vox was pretty good - as were the links on it which disputed it)

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/29/11132930/nuclear-power-costs-us-france-korea

"The biggest thing we found is that there's nothing intrinsic to nuclear that leads to cost escalations," Lovering told me. "It depends on what policies are in place, on the market dynamics. You get very different cases in different countries."

In terms of LCOE nuclear is comparable to other power generation methods; this implies break-even.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2012/06/15/the-naked-cost-of-energy-stripping-away-financing-and-subsidies/#4bf317dd2c3c

South Korea is finding nuclear cheaper than other fuels:

http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-o-s/south-korea.aspx

Of course for South Australia I'm sure any investigation into power generation would do a proper assessment of likely costs because the govt won't have the clout to push forward with it, unless it's provably beneficial ( cos it's otherwise unpopular). For Australia as we all know labour costs are through the roof, but would also see lowered safety design costs due to geography (old stable soils) and techniques (IIRC, SA sent over engineers to Newcastle to help them rebuild the place earthquake-proof; plus whatever reactor we put in will be some off-the-shelf westinghouse/ other brand-name reactor model, limiting the state government & contractor's ability to fuck things up since SA is a state where they can't even electrify a railway without having to redo it).

Whether any potential savings would offset the very likely exorbitant capital costs, well idk fam tbh but I'm sceptical for the moment. Which would lead me to say "wait and see" until experiments with new reactor designs give a clearer picture as to whether we'll be seeing cheap reactor designs in the next decade, such as small modular reactors etc etc.

Another big failure of nuclear power is you can't export the technology.

Solar/Thermal– have the CSIRO (or the rare corporate that throws a little money into R&D) develop a few key bits of tech, and even a few innovations, and Australia directly makes ~trillion over the next 20-30 years.

Nuke: Merka says No.

No.

No.

No.

That aussie scientist over there– our iPhone taps discovered he mentioned working on nuketech to his Wife– throw him in gaol for 25 years now.

(https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/27/francis-maude-warned-by-scientists-over-chilling-effect-of-new-media-rules)

>>41650

>limiting the state government & contractor's ability to fuck things up since SA is a state where they can't even electrify a railway without having to redo it).

You know now you mention it, I'm suddenly kind of put off the idea of Australia nuclear power, particularly in SA.

On the one hand, everything could potentially go as smoothly and positively as the new Oval. On the other hand, it could end up like a combination one-way freeway/broken trainline situation…