/avfm/ - Men's Rights Activism

The stereotypes are being used to stone wall people out of conversation by discrediting them, and then herding people into not taking them seriously and/or not take part in the group since they themselves don't wish to be mocked.

It's herd behavior.

Getting people, you mentioned people already to be contacted that have clout already, to point out that the stereotypes are bullshit makes a lot of sense and I support it.

Can you link in here the people's contact on their youtubes, or however you tried to contact them. Perhaps if it was more then just you asking, but more then they will see it and see that it is many people wanting it.

>male feminist dissing a feminist who is pro gamergate and anti-patriarchy theory calling her "not a true feminist".

They are right though, and this is also important in trying to reduce numbers in feminism. See, a lot of people are egalitarian or womens rights activists and they just join up with feminism because it is popular and claims to be about what they are about.

To be a feminist you must conform to their ideology of patriarchy theory thats fostered over like 50 years. So a way to convert "feminist" that are only calling themselves that for the sake of having a label on wanting to be an activist in equality is also needed.

>Anyone want to do a video featuring one of these with examples of how they resemble the negative stereotypes of MRAs?

I would. So, we would just need to help compile a list of MRA that don't fit the bill and Male feminist that do fit MRA stereotypes?

"Can you link in here the people's contact on their youtubes, or however you tried to contact them. Perhaps if it was more then just you asking, but more then they will see it and see that it is many people wanting it."

Go to the about page under baneau666 or drrandomercam page there is an option there to contact the video maker. Using this method is the path I had. I also placed comments in a couple of recent vids but I figure it is drowned out with the other comments they have.

>>112

will get on it

>>116

The unfortunate thing about willful ignorance these days is that it isn't just people being lazy. That is way too reductionist to think on those terms. The biggest things playing a role in how people think these days is 1. education and 2. propaganda

Both are essentially brainwashing people into being non-thinkers. Everything is emotion based. Schools, under the guise of a "better" non-offensive environment, prey upon happy feels. There is no more competition, it makes people feel bad, but it reduces any sense of challenge (this effects men/boys the most because, by nature, are competitive - no wonder boys are starting to test waaay low these days). Propaganda in media also deals with emotion, but it is a tendency towards fear/anxiety in order to change our minds, get up to approve something/someone, or disapprove of something.

Creating this environment where people are catering to emotion first is making people not think, at all. Emotion doesn't happen in the front of the brain where higher reasoning would take place it happens in the older parts towards the back of the brain. Primal instinct with no independent thought.

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http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/MomsPDFs/DDDoA.sml.pdf

I also added a vidya of Charlotte Iserbyt in the vidya thread, also. She details a lot of the education system. She speaks about it in terms of american education, but canada and other countries have adopted the methods as well.

To prove my point on propaganda being everywhere i recommend studying Edward Bernay. He founded public relations (added vidya to show why he calls it public relations rather then propaganda)

>>122

"The unfortunate thing about willful ignorance these days is that it isn't just people being lazy. That is way too reductionist to think on those terms. The biggest things playing a role in how people think these days is 1. education and 2. propaganda

Both are essentially brainwashing people into being non-thinkers. Everything is emotion based. Schools, under the guise of a "better" non-offensive environment, prey upon happy feels. There is no more competition, it makes people feel bad, but it reduces any sense of challenge (this effects men/boys the most because, by nature, are competitive - no wonder boys are starting to test waaay low these days). Propaganda in media also deals with emotion, but it is a tendency towards fear/anxiety in order to change our minds, get up to approve something/someone, or disapprove of something.

Creating this environment where people are catering to emotion first is making people not think, at all. Emotion doesn't happen in the front of the brain where higher reasoning would take place it happens in the older parts towards the back of the brain. Primal instinct with no independent thought."

I could have expressed myself better when I was venting about the guy in an earlier post. He was unwilling to inform himself of the SJW issue even though it was causing a split in his party, yet called himself “objective”. I still think it is something to call out when I see it. But it is important not to regard it purely as laziness. It is more like learned helplessness.

I was home-schooled for most of high school and then took a one day test to acquire a high school diploma so I could go onto college. I got my diploma and went to college and saw something that made little sense to me at the time but the more I learn about how schooling works and it's stated objectives (by the school founders but no longer admitted by the public school administrators of today) the more it makes sense.

I observed a pattern with many fellow college students. Many people who went from public school to college were often unwilling to engage the teacher in conversation in several classes. Even though the teacher was trying to encourage questions and was not threatening. He/She would be trying to engage the Socratic method and all that students were focused on was “will this be on the test?” Few people were willing to engage in dialogue with the teachers and go in depth in many of the classes, which ranged from history, economics, and math. I even remember one female classmate who shied away from doing a report on Ethiopia because “I will have to talk about all those starving kids.” It was puzzling to me that someone could have empathy for someone and as a result *not* want to find our how things went so tragically wrong and to communicate with others what important lessons could be learned about such a tragedy. I saw it as a challenge that has a strong worth since human lives were at stake. But she totally abandoned the Ethiopia subject for another one where she would not have such strong “feelings”.

Much information can be acquired and processed in little time if people are encouraged to be auto-didacts (self-teachers). This was essentially what people of the Renaissance and the American Revolution were involved in for their education. They were not graduates of what would be recognized today as a “school”.

Though the problem with schools is unfortunately much more sinster than the last twenty years with the focus on “feels”. It is undoubtedly a problem that people from previous generations still alive can observe as destructive trends, but there are several layers to this conditioning for people who go to school to develop learned helplessness and make decisions irrational rather than with careful examination and fact checking.

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This video gives a summary of some of the intentions the public school founders had and how it has unfolded in other countries. He has a site that goes into more depth about how critical thinking was subverted here.

http://schoolsucksproject.com/134-the-american-way-expanded-1-of-3-the-gasoline-soaked-house/