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lulz

>>5528145

I love Kennedi Cotarelo

Wojak!!!

>>5528145

Kennedi check em

OOGA BOOGA WHERE DA CHIKIN AT

nothings free in order to give away chicken he has to first steal chicken from some one else

>>5528440

>nothing is free

bullshit.

Plants grow, animals eat. The universe is an infinite cycle.

>>5528455

without plants animals don't eat

without sunlight plants don't grow

nothings free, in time the universe will suffer energy death.

no free chicken

>>5528455

And fried chicken grows on trees?

Labor is a cost, you know.

>>5528565

fuck off with your existential horse shit, if i dig a gold nugget out of the ground its free money, if i kill a chicken and eat it its free chicken

>>5528569

>if i dig a gold nugget out of the ground it's free money

No the cost of labor, the cost of transportation to get to the gold, the cost of the tools to extract the gold,the cost of property rights to have permission to dig, the cost of time in finding it, ect ect

>>5528803

not any of that applies in the literal example of digging up a nugget of gold except the permission/mineral rights to dig, which are horseshit regulations imposed by authoritarian governments to keep property owners from making use of their OWN property

>>5528803

>>5528814

fucking cunt putting a price tag on every goddamned thing including five minutes in the back yard with a shovel and then you dont realize how your "nothing is free" is a self-fulfilling law

>>5528565

Bullshit. What proof do you have that the universe will end.

Everything should be free.

>>5528822

If you don't put a price on your labor than everything is free. You're just trading free things (labor being traded for money at a job) for free things (money for goods).

Nothing is free. Everything has a cost. Cost doesn't have to be physical money or time.

Once something is free, it can be exchanged for other things until everything is free.

Either everything is free, or nothing is.

>>5528960

absolutely wrong and silly

the accumulation of value depends on trading things of lesser value, such as five minutes in the back yard with a shovel, for greater value such as a gold nugget out of the ground.

valuing the shovel time less creates HIGHER value. valuing the shovel time at 0 such as with a slave, or indenture, MAXIMISES value.

this is the natural evolution of capitalism

>>5528966

So, are you implying that the profit made is "free money"?

also with your comment about time of slaves being 0, I'd factor it as greater than 0 due to opportunity cost

>>5529009

all profit is free money. that's the entire nature of our system, with interest rates slightly higher than inflation and offering services marked up to 400% of the overhead.

that is the very nature of capitalism… free money from someone else's work if you're smart enough to know how to get it

>>5528889

Get back to work.

>>5529021

But all that "free money" can be explained if you think about it more deeply.

If I buy a doughnut from a doughnut production plant then transfer it to a mall then sell it for $2 more than the combined cost of transferring and purchasing the doughnut, then there isn't $2 coming out of thin air, there's $2 of my time, even if that time isn't in actually transporting (say if I hire someone else), then the time is coming up with the idea, and managing and executing that idea.

I'd like you to give me an example of free money that isn't just you overlooking a cost. I don't think it's fair to classify certain things as costs when others can be classed as costs just as easily.

>>5529162

value in our current system is not zero-sum

i agree with you that that needs to end - a gold standard or better commodities standard would be preferable.

but you seem to think the money you get paid with DOESNT come out of thin air

it is literally free money

>>5529197

You're right, I was thinking of it too much from a theoretical standpoint.

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