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File: 0ccda6b412b5f74⋯.png (46.44 KB, 300x250, 6:5, fHqog0j4Lz.png)

 No.338051

Whatever happened to the Atheism movement that was going on during the late 00s and early 10s? I remember that Atheist and Agnostic "debating" was super popular back then.

 No.338061

Evolved into "skeptics" like Sargon of Akkad


 No.338064

the athiests got btfo and disbanded


 No.338078

>>338051

It collapsed in on itself when the cucks promoting it shied away from any criticism of Islam. It was really only a cudgel to bash Christians with. Also, the Prophet of Atheism, his holliness Richard Dawkins began to take increasingly sober opinions in the face of rabid feminism. This outraged the leftists, so now they'd rather not talk about the Dawkins phase of their lives.


 No.338087

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


 No.338094

>>338061

You don't know shit about the skeptics movement. It existed long before your hard on for sargoy. Stuff like skeptics guide to the universe was genuinely good. It all got pozzed to shit though. You can thank feminist infiltration for that. I would say it was the first subculture to really be subverted in this way. Was even before GG.


 No.338095

>>338051

Atheism stopped being a taboo thing in the 2010s and therefore people on the internet weren't interested in debating it anymore. Now being a Christian is taboo so you have all these tards on the internet pretending to be born again or whatever


 No.338098

>>338078

Fuck Christians.


 No.338105

>>338078

All Muslims need to be exterminated or become secular.


 No.338107

Don't know, but I stopped taking it seriously when the vast majority of its advocates seemed to only be using it as an excuse to put things up their butts. I'm probably not the only one who felt that way about it.


 No.338115

>>338095

Deus vult! Logos Rising.


 No.338117

>>338094

The skeptics movement also dealt with atheism only to a degree. The focus was more on doing stuff like debunking junk science and learning logical fallacies and such. I fucking miss those days. Teaching people to be skeptic and think for themselves is promoted by absolutely no-one now.


 No.338123

>>338105

Their women can actually look pretty good once that Burka comes off.


 No.338128

>>338117

>Teaching people to be skeptic and think for themselves is promoted by absolutely no-one now.

It's advocated by every single university and public school.

That's probably why nobody takes it seriously, the people saying "think for yourselves" come across as the most massive group thinkers on earth.


 No.338132

>>338128

>It's advocated by every single university and public school

You're fucking kidding right?


 No.338135

>>338117

Being morally right is more important than being factually correct. – The anthem of CURRENT_YEAR+4


 No.338138

>>338132

Not at all. That's exactly what I was taught for the short time I attended University and all through public school.


 No.338144

>>338138

Maybe in the 90s. If it's mentioned nowadays at all it's lip service.


 No.338160

File: 744105eda13f857⋯.webm (3.22 MB, 640x360, 16:9, r-atheism.webm)

>Whatever happened to the Atheism movement

It dwindled and faded away like every other internet fad.


 No.338163

>>338144

Of course. You know it's lip service when you dare to cross a sacred cow of the current party line (muh human rights violations, "genocides", etc. etc.) and they get this look of inexpressable horror in their faces when just five minutes ago they were preaching about "critical thinking."


 No.338167

>>338051

Atheism plus split the community and shunned people like Dawkins in favor of leftist Identity politics.


 No.338172

File: 8fec0c38f65ec57⋯.jpg (100.81 KB, 637x638, 637:638, 8fec0c38f65ec57fa673da98cb….jpg)

>>338051

Atheism fell apart because it was too weak to combat the SJW plague and especially too weak to tackle the jewish problem which is at the center of bad religions. Atheism in those days was like a blind man trying to kill a rodent in his house. It was too cucked to fend off feminism, too lefty to fend off SJWs, and too bluepilled to name jews.


 No.338193

File: 9bef9789273d320⋯.jpg (124.97 KB, 531x471, 177:157, 1418690449542.jpg)

>>338167

>Atheism plus

All my raging cringe


 No.338202

>>338078

>>338095

Pretty much. Atheism got a lot of attention and caught up in the main stream of consciousness, which made it seem more popular than it is and cause people to either gather around it or argue against it. Since it was the "new kid" on the internet block for a while not only did you have arguments and every fedora-wearing pseudointellectual in existence using them as a jumping point to show how smart and enlightened they were, but people including it in or combining it with weird shit, like Atheism+.

Since anyone with two brain cells to rub together didn't see the merit in participating in it, all that was left was dumbasses and newfags that that also couldn't reconcile their supposed beliefs with those of others (it was very centered on American religious politics and Christianity, anything outside that was "uncomfortable" territory) and katana-posing fedoralords, and it turned into a cannibalizing shitstorm and died. Good riddance.


 No.338204

>>338172

The juice!!!!!!! You are just as retarded as the SJWs. Now call me a jew.


 No.338212

>>338204

>Now call me a jew.

Jew.


 No.338218

>>338202

>didn't see the merit in participating in it

And by "it", I mean the mosh pit of shit-flailing dumbassery surrounding the subject and all the behavior therein.


 No.338250

Everyone realised it was super lame and cringeworthy, and a magnet for wasters who's egos hinged on being "very clever". If you don't believe in God, that's fine. No need to be a Rick and Morty fan about it.


 No.338286

>>338051

it turned into full blown racial warfare with average person realizing that racial make up of your nation is one of the most important things for a stable society


 No.338292

>>338051

>Whatever happened to the Atheism movement

They finally realized that they didn't actually believe in anything.


 No.338302

>>338078

Richard Dawkins has become a complete progressive drone, he was critical of "rabid feminism" for a whole 5 seconds before he flipped.


 No.338343

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>yfw your morally reprehensible atheist brother eats himself to death


 No.338346

God willed it out of existence.


 No.338374

File: cf7eab49b5ec1c1⋯.png (434.45 KB, 502x626, 251:313, 1496534457895.png)

Basically the "Christians" stopped holding fast to their beliefs and if you ever meet anyone under 60 and ask them about their christianity they get vague as all shit in about 2 seconds and you will find they don't actually believe in much of anything.

The atheists won lock stock and barrel, there is nobody left to debate.

the only christian zoomers that exist are so retarded and up their own asses there is no point in talking to them


 No.338410

>>338374

They missed the entire point of a religion, which isn't about absolute truth. It's about supplying a societal framework and set of morals to live by, and giving people a path to something higher. It doesn't fucking matter if a man literally built a boat and put all of the animals on Earth on the boat.


 No.338423

>>338410

> It doesn't fucking matter if a man literally built a boat and put all of the animals on Earth on the boat.

kinda does if you think the bible is true, kinda matters if you have to believe god impregnated a sandnigger teenage girl and her baby was a mangod who had to be butchered for our sins or not


 No.338429

>>338423

It literally doesn't matter if the Bible is true, as long as it's doing it's job.


 No.338444

>>338429

>It literally doesn't matter if the Bible is true, as long as it's doing it's job.

that is vague as all shit but ok whatever


 No.338450

>>338429

That's just an autistic view of Christianity and not the actual religion.


 No.338453

>>338410

> It's about supplying a societal framework and set of morals to live by, and giving people a path to something higher. It doesn't fucking matter if a man literally built a boat and put all of the animals on Earth on the boat.

Here we have the "jews invented society and morals" jew-worshiper. It never gets old.


 No.338463

>>338444

>have a religion

>society has cohesion, degeneracy is regulated

>don't have religion

>people roll around in their own shit and stab each other in the back for all eternity

Wow. Sure glad we did away with that God delusion!


 No.338475

>>338453

Don't play silly buggers. The importance is having a religion, as opposed to a vacuum. It doesn't have to be Christianity, though Christianity seems to work pretty good.


 No.338481

>>338463

>degeneracy is regulated

More like hidden from sight and reserved for the rich and powerful. Sound kind of like modern times. Human nature doesn't change. Religion is just one expression of it.


 No.338487

>>338463

I would rather live with sjws on twitter than the catholic church in control of society i think


 No.338490

>>338475

The most enlightened times were literally the days of deists not christianity.


 No.338492

>>338481

Which is regulation. These things are going to happen, but we don't have to take to the streets to celebrate them.


 No.338497

>>338487

I wouldn't, I would love to see degenerate white countries ran like the middle east but Christian


 No.338502

>>338453

Christianity is strongly influenced by Europe. Half the symbols come from Rome for fucks sake. He didn't mention christianity even, or aren't you aware there are other organized religions?

>>338487

The catholic church was pretty much like any feudal lord, with the difference it was a more stable organization. They had rules like paying tithe, etc, but that is no different from paying taxes. If you mean the current church, they do pretty much nothing now.


 No.338507

>>338492

You missed the point. If the people controlling society are degenerates society itself degenerates.


 No.338533

I used to be an atheist but realized it was a blue-pill that hinges on the christian identity that denies the importance of racial homogeneity while hiding under nihilism in the face of challenge.


 No.338537

File: 6e180018581030c⋯.gif (1.97 MB, 380x285, 4:3, 1410274399710.gif)

>>338533

You're very very smart.


 No.338542

>>338507

Which is why you call on a God who is above corruption.


 No.338551

>>338542

A man made concept is above corruption. You're deluded. Not to mention even if you're premise was correct it would prevent nothing from people perverting god.


 No.338556

>>338551

Then they'd be heretics. Time for a good burning.


 No.338563

>>338542

>call on a God who is above corruption.

Just tried, I think he blocked my number.


 No.338567

>>338537

There may be some deviations in atheist behavior, but ultimately it is an idolatry with clear traits and behaviors as you do not have to identify with being an "atheist" to lack belief in something (deities).


 No.338573

>>338533

>that hinges on the christian identity

That's the atheism+ debatefag shit. If you don't believe in something then just get on with it and go on about your life.


 No.338584

>>338573

Then way bother going by the label "atheist?" It's the same as atheism+.


 No.338590

>>338556

Yeah we only ever burned heretics. Not scientists, philosophers etc. or anything.


 No.338597

>>338475

There is no vacuum. The void that was left in the decline of Christianity was immediately filled by progressivism, and it fills the role that religion traditionally would but without any metaphysical binding.


 No.338601

>>338590

They basically never actually burned people for being scientists and philosophers. That's a myth.


 No.338606

>>338567

>idolatry

You do not know what that word means or your're just doing the SJW thing of making up your own definitions.


 No.338615

>>338597

In which it became to materialistic and atomization. Which leaves the population vulnerable to a peoples that have faith in themselves (Jews etc.)


 No.338623

>>338051

>>338064

This may sound like a silly answer, but this is actually what happened. Before this "movement" nobody really thought anything about Atheists. After they started getting bold on the internet, it just outed them as a bunch of low-t, mouth breathing fedoras.


 No.338629

>>338601

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecco_d%27Ascoli

Took about 10 seconds to find. Keep making up your own facts though.


 No.338632

>>338606

>muh ESJAYDUBAYOOS!!!


 No.338633

>>338410

I agree that that is the "point" of a religion (or at least the function of one), but I think that nu-christianity (cucked, don't want to convert, you do you, pro abortion, pro gay etc.) does provide a set of morals specifically for modern society. I've associated with some urbanites and they'll talk vaguely about spirituality (not believing in a specific god, but its pretty clear that its a christian deity). The morals of this spirituality are effectively as follows:

as long as I don't think you're hurting anyone its ok

being open to everything that is deemed acceptable by their peers

no absolute dedication to a higher power


 No.338637

>>338632

Great rebuttal. You got me.


 No.338641

File: 58169a930411a0c⋯.jpg (38.71 KB, 420x318, 70:53, vfx_cheesus.jpg)

>>338051

That was during the golden age of YouTube and it was around 2006-2008. On the skeptic side, there was thunderf00t, AmazingAtheist (back when he was good), cdk, donexodus, nonstampcollector, and too many others to name. On the Christian/creationist side you had VenomFangX, ShockOfGod (that guy was loony), that creepy nephilimfree, jezuzfreek777, and a whole slew of others, among them was also Kent Hovind, but he was doing his own thing and not really taking part in the debates.

What happened? The debate ended. The creationists got slaughtered by facts, data, and science. Almost every one of their videos has ratings disabled and their comment sections were heavily moderated. It was a good time. That was also back in the day when you could make response videos that would show up beneath the video being responded to. A great time for YouTube, but now it's all big brother, SJW bullshit.


 No.338677

>>338629

Your own link says it wasn't because he was a philosopher or scientist but "he died at the stake for his attempt to determine the nativity of Christ by reading his horoscope". The church even had "scientists" (some predate science) in the clergy.


 No.338682

>>338629

Sounds like he was killed for being an asshole.


 No.338689

The atheists, and the anons posing as atheists in this thread are an excellent example of what happened to the skeptics movement.


 No.338701

>>338677

He was an intellectual killed by the church. Stop moving the goalpost.

>>338682

That's a good reason to kill someone right?


 No.338704

>>338584

It just means "not a theist". It's not just atheists that use the word since it's a general description and not inaccurate.

>What's your religion?

>I don't have one, don't believe in that kind of stuff at all.

>So you're athiest?


 No.338727

>>338701

Doesn't really make me feel bad for him. Being a scientist and being killed doesn't mean you were killed for being a scientist, also.


 No.338739

>>338704

"don't believe in that kind of stuff at all" is just vague bs to justify an unnecessary and hedonistic identity.


 No.338754

>>338727

>I'm sure that he had independent opinions was just incidental to his murder so it's alright.

For morons like you I wish they'd bring back the Inquisition just so they end up burning you for holding any opinion that isn't dogma.


 No.338771

>>338302

This must have been fairly recent, and his resistance was far longer than 5 mins. The last I heard he was arguing with some feminists that chatting up a woman in an elevator isn't rape.


 No.338774

>>338771

*seconds


 No.338777

>>338739

Atheism as a word isn't a justification for anything. It's just a descriptor like green or tall. A (negative) - Theist. It's really not that hard to comprehend. All the additional shit people associate with atheism is tacked on. There is no atheist dogma. No rules. No statement on morality. You can be an atheist and anything else beside religious.


 No.338810

You'd think that atheists with their encyclopedic knowledge of logical fallacies would realize why it's irrational to believe without evidence that consciousness is generated entirely by atoms moving around and nothing else.


 No.338812

>>338777

Atheism is an identity. You do not need to identify as an atheist to lack a belief in deities.

Feminism also has a simple definition but we recognize it as being more than that and that the definition does not properly define that group identity.


 No.338825

>>338812

>Atheism is an identity

Wew. We got an identitarian lads.


 No.338828

>>338812

Fuck you, words have meaning. Get a new word for your gay little socialist club.


 No.338848

>>338051

The ones that eventually recognized the need for religion turned into pagans, rather than admit that they were wrong about Christianity.


 No.338849

File: 23dad2939020e7d⋯.jpg (35.5 KB, 310x386, 155:193, tadah.jpg)

We basically blew the religious cucks the fuck out and annihilated any chance of them ever getting their bullshit up again. After that pushing for atheism just became preaching to the choir so we calmed down.

I see a bunch of ignorant or just pure dishonest posts in this thread. For the people who don't know in the past the christcucks were basically what the SJWs latter became, they were the original anally retentive retards who loved to call for the censorship of everything and tried to make everything in politics be just about them and their dogma. All you ingrate kids should thank us fedorarus for having saved you video game pantsu shots in the past.


 No.338853

File: 45fb5e5f72bc47c⋯.gif (925.59 KB, 540x360, 3:2, CONTACT.gif)

>>338051

The atheists are now trying to debate how many genders there are. I'm not even joking or posing as a butthurt christian. That is really where atheism has gone to regarding debates.


 No.338864

>>338810

>it's irrational to believe without evidence that consciousness

Everything we know so far suggests just that. In the absence of evidence admit ignorance. You're the one making assumptions because your beliefs haven't been disproven but that is not the way the world works. You don't just believe things because you can't prove they are not true.


 No.338874

>>338812

Being atheist, saying you're athiest, and marking thus if answering a "mark your religion" question isn't the same as going "I AM AN ATHEIST", screaming at theists, and doing shit like this >>338853 . The context is different, and the word on its own just means "lacking theism".


 No.338905

>>338812

This christcuck argument is so fucking pointless that leads nowhere, I don't know why they bother bringing it up like it's some sort of "gotcha".


 No.338908

>>338864

>Everything we know so far suggests just that.

Being able to measure brain waves in no way suggests that. All that is is correlation.

>In the absence of evidence admit ignorance

Exactly. So you should admit ignorance instead of deluding yourself into thinking you have the answer to how consciousness arises when in actuality you can't come anywhere near explaining how it happens.

>You're the one making assumptions

Notice that I haven't made a positive claim.


 No.338919

>>338098

Atheists BTFO


 No.338924

>>338874

What I am saying is that the conversation is no longer debating religion. It is basically sjw and feminists and anti-sjw's anti-feminists that have the narrative.


 No.338933

it reached terminal cringe.

People say "every movment will eventually move to the left"

What actually happens irl is "every movement will be destroyed by cringelords who latch on to anything they can use to substitute for personality"


 No.338948

>>338905

I am not christian, but I am also not a scumbag "atheist."


 No.338975

>>338777

"Atheism is just a lack of belief" is and always was nothing more than a motte and bailey rhetorical scheme.


 No.338990

>>338908

>Being able to measure brain waves in no way suggests that. All that is is correlation.

How about so far no matter how deep we probe there is no unexplainable mystery? Everything so far can be explained with physics so why invoke magic? The burden of proof is on you you idiot.

>you should admit ignorance

You're right. Since I don't know for sure that bigfoot isn't real I'll just have to admit it's very possible he's real. It's a matter of probability and what seems more likely given what we know. Nothing is for certain but I wont just believe whatever the fuck I feel like because the negative hasn't been proven.

>you can't come anywhere near explaining

You're like a flat earther. I'll keep applying occams razor until I see some extraordinary evidence that suggests that consciousness is anything but atoms jiggling about.

>Notice that I haven't made a positive claim.

Yet you are arguing for a position of belief in the absence of evidence. I can't even begin to describe how fucking stupid that is. You're basically giving yourself license to claim truth about anything provided science hasn't delineated every aspect of what you're debating about.

You can't prove a negative. How hard is it to understand that. That's not how reality works.


 No.339022

>>338908

Your whole argument boils down to "You can't prove fairies aren't real so ha!"

Jesus christ.


 No.339029

>>339022

stay buttblasted


 No.339045

>>339029

>I'm not wrong

>You're wrong

>because you're buttblasted

BTFOd!


 No.339052

atheists are illogical and christians are cucks tbh


 No.339082

>>338374

>Basically the "Christians" stopped holding fast to their beliefs and if you ever meet anyone under 60 and ask them about their christianity they get vague as all shit in about 2 seconds and you will find they don't actually believe in much of anything.

based


 No.339088

>>338990

>Everything so far can be explained with physics

So explain conscious to me using physics. Graphs of correlation explain nothing.

>why invoke magic

I haven't invoked magic, you're strawmanning.

>Yet you are arguing for a position of belief in the absence of evidence.

Belief of what, exactly? My only axiom is that consciousness exists.

>You can't prove a negative

Materialism is not a negative. It is a positive belief that consciousness arises from matter. A claim like that requires substantiation to hold water. Science can provide none, other than the mapping of the correlation between neurons and psychic activity, which itself does not explain or prove that the neurons themselves are the fountainhead of consciousness.

>>339022

It seems that the materialists' first reaction to any questioning of their dogma is to strawman the skeptic into having some sort of religious positive claim. I am not making any positive claim other than the fact that consciousness exists.


 No.339102

>>339088

>Materialism is not a negative. It is a positive

cope


 No.339117

Same thing that happened to gaming, SJWs took it over. These people will infest anything.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Atheism_Plus


 No.339178

>>339088

You're talking past me without understanding anything I've written and repeating yourself.

>axiom

You don't know what that word means or how to use it appropriately.

>Materialism is not a negative

>psychic activity

That's some flat earther levels of retardation.

How old are you? No really. Your arguments come off like the naive ramblings of some 14 year old. I think you lack a basic understanding of the scientific process or how to arrive at any kind of accurate approximation of what reality is. Go reread what I wrote. I'm not repeating myself pointlessly.


 No.339186

>>339178

All of your post is ad hominem. You might want to look up 'psychic' in a dictionary, by the way.

Could you explain to me why you believe that materialism is a negative belief?


 No.339211

File: 7387a13be6f320e⋯.png (93.08 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, open-mind-comic1.png)


 No.339222

File: 276a67db043d91f⋯.gif (560.65 KB, 255x144, 85:48, 1413246544085.gif)

>>339186

>ad hominem

You also don't know what that means.

>Could you explain to me why you believe that materialism is a negative belief

Can you explain to me why mount everest isn't 50 tomatoes inland?

I'm just gonna laugh at you since you don't seem to have even a basic understanding of any of the words and concepts you're using.


 No.339257

>>338771

https://www.richarddawkins.net/2014/08/who-is-belittling-what/

>There should be no rivalry in victimhood, and I’m sorry I once said something similar to American women complaining of harassment, inviting them to contemplate the suffering of Muslim women by comparison.


 No.339360

File: 4723e8ecbba193b⋯.pdf (1.55 MB, careenium.pdf)

I'm not interested in getting involved in this debate, but this is a pretty interesting column about consciousness arising from physical systems someone might find interesting.

It's Hofstadter though, so expect allegory and handwaving rather than precise arguments. He's more concerned with building intuition for the ideas others argue for more carefully.


 No.339667

>>338051

Women showed up and ruined everything. No joke.


 No.339759

File: 2f2867abc699a2a⋯.jpg (139.5 KB, 1274x686, 13:7, david.jpg)

It became super embarrassing, just like everything else that begins on the internet.


 No.339870

>>339759

It was also a reaction to the evangelical right to begin with, and New Atheism only came into it's own as the former movement was basically on its way out as any sort of outwardly-projecting political force. Once the evangelical right went away the new atheists didn't really have a point anymore, and they devolved into atheism+ tier SJWism or became skeptic community cringefaggots.


 No.339910

After they removed any culture Christian influences, the Kikes discarded the atheistic useful idiots so they can pave the way for identity politics and hedonism.


 No.339928

File: 83682d8d4da959f⋯.jpg (88.5 KB, 828x1792, 207:448, 6us42cujcxh21.jpg)

we never disappeared, we just became pure gamers


 No.339938

>>339910

>Christianity was defeated by a banana sexual and his ragtag group of master debaters

Some religion, huh


 No.339962

>>339938

Pretty sad, indeed.


 No.340042

-Atheism+

-Debates against creationists were mutually embarrassing and hurt their morale

-It was a fad to begin with


 No.340143

File: a9d5e668a373f44⋯.jpg (107.45 KB, 600x840, 5:7, badgirl.jpg)

>>339870

I think one of the reasons why it was somewhat cringy is that christian evangelical movement was almost entirely American, concentrated in a specific part of the states, and is more offline than online, and people outside of the US just watched people yelling on the internet at people that weren't on the internet.


 No.340377

>>340143

Also during early youtube period nobody normal maintained and put effort into a youtube channel, so most of the original evangelicals were pretty autistic (and so were the "rational" debunkers)


 No.340413

File: a99cc6b0913c265⋯.jpg (267.12 KB, 1429x2000, 1429:2000, e93d9e6077abddc8e79083eb73….jpg)

File: 29f77b89d488a21⋯.jpg (220.79 KB, 715x1000, 143:200, __original_drawn_by_shioko….jpg)

>>340143

>600x840

Fuck's sake anon. Have an gesugao one too.


 No.340501

>>340413

>gesugao

thanks for the word


 No.340545

>>338051

>I remember that Atheist and Agnostic "debating" was super popular back then.

Hitchins died and seeing people win all the time is boring. Simple as that. The religious failed nearly universally to bring anything to the table so it stopped being a relevant thing to argue about. Now people argue about much less important and much more gay shit; Not that normalfags will ever understand anything of any importance anyhow.

>all these people pretending "Atheism" is a political movement

How is life with a room temperature IQ treating you?


 No.340607

it fulfilled its purpose, white people don't believe in god anymore, there's nobody left for the atheists to debate. being a christian is no longer a social norm- it actually makes one a social pariah, a "square"


 No.340615

Atheism+ tore them apart and caused a huge amount of drama online. Feminists fucked it up and then started throwing round fake rape accusations.

Edgy kids are now turning into nazis instead of fedora tippers.


 No.340630

>>338051

Most people on the internet just want to argue, they have no real convictions. Once they got bored of debating atheism they moved on to race baiting. I wonder what they will latch on to next…


 No.340717

>>340545

How is life in a sub room temperature IQ treating you? If you knew a thing about history and wasn't some fat fuck burger you might understand religion and politics are the same thing. Religion was the core of politics until the last 100 years. There was no divide between church and state because the church was the state.


 No.340729

>>338502

>Christianity is strongly influenced by Europe. Half the symbols come from Rome for fucks sake. He didn't mention christianity even, or aren't you aware there are other organized religions?

That's derivative of the jewish method of claiming ownership of pre-existing iconography and ideas. See: the origins of the jew star.

>The catholic church was pretty much like any feudal lord, with the difference it was a more stable organization. They had rules like paying tithe, etc, but that is no different from paying taxes. If you mean the current church, they do pretty much nothing now.

The catholic church did that because they were an organization working closely with their jewish masters. Over time, popes would reinforce previous popes' privileges extended to jews.


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>>340717

>the church was the state

sometimes anon, the state was the church




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