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Sure they both sit around all day and do nothing while other support them, but the NEETs don't have any pretense about being holy or enlightened.


its not pretense when they have an actual moral code to abide by


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Based & True

But seriously what's with all the Buddhist/Monk hate here today? Did I miss something?



kek i was wondering that too. I think someone's just trying to get a rise out of analcockman.



The Boomer hater is hating Monks today.



Hey maybe should pretend to be holy and enlightened, sounds like it is working out pretty well for the Monks.



He would have to leave his basement and actually do something, it wouldn't work we would have to listen to him crying about how hard a Monks life is now.


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NO and Nope

Buddhism Monks are nothing like you NEETS

they are not allow to Fap to porn or eat whatever they want .

they have orders to practice. look at there hair for example

your "saint" look like NEET more than buddhism monk

try read confession of st Augustine

he's neet read the books all days

goddam WTF happen with this place when I am absence



>I am absence

t. monkie



This looks like some good pasta.


Real monks don't use the internet tbh



it just looks like an analcockman post because it is one


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Yeah, enlightenment ish for plebsh



Who says staying in the basement all day isn't holy?


Not allowed to fap.. So who stops them?



>we don't have any actual morals or any moral codes

Normalfags not allowed in this monastery.



>Buddhism monks are nothing like you NEETs

True. The monks aren't nearly as wise.

>hurr durrr there is no self ommmmmmmm

Lololol fuck off, ya ching chongs


Anything is superior to (((buddhism))), its a literal LARP for new-agey californians. Islam is the only ship which has not sunken to the raging seas of (((modernity)))



Just because some obnoxious liberals identify as Buddhists doesn't invalidate the religion, brainlet. And it sure af doesn't make it superior to Islam.



>hurr durrr there is no self ommmmmmmm

You sound retarded. That is not what Buddhists believe.The Buddha said that arguing about whether or not there is a self is a meaningless discussion.


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monks are superior to incel



No religion is as full of smug fucks as buddhism. In other religions, you are saved by god's grace in Buddhism you achieve enlightenment by yourself.

This is done by sitting around doing nothing.

lazy, smug bastards.

At least a Christian will get up off their asses once in awhile and help someone, but not a Buddhist, they think you deserve to suffer because it's your Karma.

Do nothing smug bastards.



Yeah the way some of these people live in their native countries is beyond brutal. Especially Tibet and even hundi monks that literally live in cremation grounds covered in the ash of dead bodies.


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Why he was practicing that useless stunt over and over and over again, a christian was feeding the homeless.

Buddhists suck.



>b-but I can eat tendies all day long!



>they think you deserve to suffer because it's your Karma.

this is exactly what presbyterians believe


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>Not allowed to fap.. So who stops them?

another great monks

see this ?

this weapon was originally design to bury corpse. it is duty of monks to bury them whenever they found dead people during the journey. next they add moon cutter. so the monks can protect themselves and bury their enemy at the same time :)

you will face this weapon if you try to fap :)




i mean… i'm a papist and all, but…




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Nah it's chinese monks weapon :)

Analockman (Thailand native)



They have a term for it, retard: Anatman


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>Al Jazeera



>in other religions, you are saved by God's grace

Which is idiotic and often leads to inaction.



Wow neato



>often leads to inaction.

Buddhism is inaction and apathy glorified.



>They have a term for it, retard: Anatman

“There is the case where an uninstructed, run-of-the-mill person… (You) doesn’t discern what ideas are fit for attention, or what ideas are unfit for attention…. This is how he attends inappropriately: ‘Was I in the past? Was I not in the past? What was I in the past? How was I in the past? Having been what,what was I in the past? Shall I be in the future? Shall I not be in the future?What shall I be in the future? How shall I be in the future? Having been what, what shall I be in the future?’ Or else he is inwardly perplexed about

the immediate present: ‘Am I? Am I not? What am I? How am I? Where has this being come from? Where is it bound?’“As he attends inappropriately in this way, one of six kinds of view arises in him: The view I have a self arises in him as true & established, or the view I have no self… or the view It is precisely by means of self that I perceive self… or the view It is precisely by means of self that I perceive not-self… or the view It is precisely by means of not-self that I perceive self arises in him as true & established, or else he has a view like this:This very self of mine—the knower that is sensitive here & there to the ripening of good & bad actions—is the self of mine that is constant,everlasting, eternal, not subject to change, and will endure as long as eternity. This is called a thicket of views, a wilderness of views, a contortion of views, a writhing of views, a fetter of views. Bound by a fetter of views, the uninstructed run-of-the-mill person (You) is not freed from birth, aging, & death, from sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair.He is not freed, I tell you, from stress.

“The well-instructed disciple of the noble ones… discerns what ideas are fit for attention, and what ideas are unfit for attention…. He attends appropriately, This is stress … This is the origination of stress … This is the cessation of stress … This is the way leading to the cessation of stress. As he attends appropriately in this way, three fetters are abandoned in him: self-identification views, uncertainty, and grasping at habits &practices.” – MN 2



That must be why there are so many Buddhist nonprofits and charities. The difference between Christians and Buddhists is that the former tends to toss money at people for Good Boy Points, and the latter understands that it's more important to help people to improve themselves by means of serious philosophy and contemplation.


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and Neets say "No fucks were given"

Same result, but the NEET method is much more simple and elegant.



Nonprofit doesn't mean dick. They pay salaries. Teaching hobos to sit quietly, do nothing and empty their minds isn't going to help them.



What is this supposed to prove, exactly?

Most Buddhists understand the fact that the self is an illusion – that our corporeal material is an ever-changing cluster of organisms and particles, and that our sense of self is a product of our memories and how our brains are wired.



I was just messing with you, Analcockman. As far as religion goes, Buddhists are definitely the skinniest kids at fat camp.



>What is this supposed to prove, exactly?

>The well-instructed disciple of the noble ones… discerns what ideas are fit for attention, and what ideas are unfit for attention…. He attends appropriately.


Monks are incels



no they are volcels



But are they braincels?


The only way a man can be considered holy is if he has fathered at least 5 children before the age of 30. Otherwise, his spirituality has declined beyond the point of no return and he is doomed to be a pawn of Satan for the rest of his days. Anons, find yourself a good woman now and get to making white babies before the jews wipe us out. Before it's too late.



So you're saying Jesus Christ wasn't a holy man.



Jesus was our Lord and Savior. He was more than a man like you or me, he passed on the greatest traditions our world has ever known. His legacy is still felt worldwide to this very day. The least you can do to show your thanks is pop some children out and raise them to praise God.



What if I am the juden?



Then your time is coming.


religion is a scam. only love God. that's it. don't believe. Know.



ok thats deep



How do I become a monk?



But you said the only way a man can be considered holy is if he is has fathered at least five children by the age of thirty or he is doomed to be a pawn of Satan……

Jesus never married. Jesus begun his teaching when he was thirty.

By your reasoning his teachings must be the work of the devil.



Ok, but it was a response to my post about Anatman. Is it supposed to prove me wrong, or were you just highlighting the nuances of the Buddhist concept of the self?



> don't believe. Know.

Which is impossible.

Enjoy driving yourself insane trying to prove the unprovable.


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Go to buddhism temple and ask monks there

Take someone with you too

and buy you a monk cloths

you must learn about how to pray in buddhism way. and must not have danger illness

if the monks are ok that you really undertsand all 277 laws then they cut your hair

give you a new name in buddhism way

to be honest I think it's too hard for you

Analockman (Thailand native)



Get a pretense of being holy



Why don't you become a monk, Analockman? If you like sucking their dicks so much, you'll be in heaven.



If you make a large enough donation, they will tell you that you were a monk in a past life.




Monks can't use the internet.


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But the (Shaolin) monks are taught to fight each other, and NEETs only practice jew-jitsu by gassing the room with their putrid autism stench.



>Monks can't use the internet.

Yes they can I'm using it right now.


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because that will cut me off from world of wisdom as a whole. their laws make me sicks

for me it's not importance to like only 1 religion

I like 5-6 religion

Christ Hindu Buddhism Taoism Animism and Hermetic

I know the dark side of each religions too

you may say I have religion of my own



Being able to kick a NEET's ass does not make you morally superior.


Check out this guy, he's a monk with 63 confirmed kills and a nine inch penis.



I'm a meditation monk for 12 years now.



>you may say I have religion of my own

>it's like all of those religions but super gay



Neets are nothing but Proto-hobos



>a meditation monk

is that something you made up


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whatever dude… whatever… :)

I will not post in this thread anymore

here 's reward for dig deep to this point

listen to it


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You ain't wrong, I suppose.



Proto-homos. Lazy shitlords. Sociopaths, etc.

Gas the NEETs, tbh.



That's funny why would I make it up?



what the fuck is a "meditation monk"?

are you ordained?

is english your native language?

because you're the only person i've ever heard use that term.



That's my specialty.



What is? Do you live in a monastery? Are you part of some kind of religious tradition? I'm just trying to figure out if you're an actual monk or just an autistic NEET who's into meditation that calls himself a 'meditation monk'.



I was ordained in 2007, I'm not part of a Temple or tradition anymore, I practice the highest form of meditation and teach it when I can. I'm independent now.


>>445855 (Checked)

>I was ordained in 2007, I'm not part of a Temple or tradition anymore

Very interesting. Was it Shambala?

>I practice the highest form of meditation

Which is?



I dunno, Rick…




Is a book publisher.

All of the Traditions have a highest form and although the details are different the result is the same.

Zen Buddhism is shikantaza (“just sitting”).

Dzogchen in Tibetan Buddhism, is called the Great Perfection.

Advaita is Neti Neti.

Krishnamurti called it “choiceless awareness.”

I call it "Do Nothing" meditation.

The full instructions for the Do Nothing meditation are to sit down and do nothing.

That’s it.



However, most people need a little more instruction than that, so here let’s unpack it a bit. Even though the meditation is called Do Nothing, you’re actually doing a little tiny bit of something: you’re paying attention to the feeling of doing something.

It doesn’t matter where your mind goes. It can go to all sorts of distraction, and that’s fine. You are not trying to meditate in any way.

You’re simply noticing when you think that you’re doing something and letting go of that.

If it feels like you’re getting caught up in a thought, let go of that.

If it feels like you’re getting caught up in an emotion, let go of that.

If it feels like you’re getting caught up in meditating, let go of that.

If it feels like you’re struggling to let go, let go of that.

If it feels like you’re constricting or tightening in your body, your emotions, or your mind, let go of that.

Just keep relaxing away from all tightening, constriction, or sense that you’re doing anything.

(Don’t) do this meditation for as long as you’d like. Make sure your awareness is bright and you are not fading or sleepy. :^)




I'm not from there, not buddhist, or religious, meditation is my thing.


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Buddhism is sort of a philosophy, while NEET'sm is just laziness that caused NEET's to be disciplined


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>Buddhism is sort of a philosophy, while NEET'sm is just laziness that caused NEET's to be disciplined


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>The full instructions for the Do Nothing meditation are to sit down and do nothing.

>That's it

I wish i could have your enlightened outlook on life my friend.


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this is awesome, a NEET larping as a Monk.

I wonder which side he'll take in this debate.


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If it feels like you’re getting caught up in a thought, let go of that.

If it feels like you’re getting caught up in an emotion, let go of that.

If it feels like you’re getting caught up in meditating, let go of that.

If it feels like you’re struggling to let go, let go of that.

NEETs shorten and simplify this into "Not giving a fuck".

Another win for the NEETs.




NEETs are like organic monks


The thing about Buddhists is that literally none of them give a shit about this thread



That's what makes trolling the poser buddhists that do so much fucking fun.



>I wish i could have your enlightened outlook on life my friend.

Your wish is granted; I want to share with you, from my heart, something that I have found to be incredibly important. Something that I feel is the best advice I can give you. My life advice is this: Never believe anything. That’s it. It’s really simple. Just don’t believe anything. Ever. Seriously. Don’t Believe Thoughts and Feelings, Models or Maps. Some people think that this makes me an atheist or a nihilist, but I don’t believe in atheism or nihilism either. They’re just more ideas; just alternate prisons. Never believe any idea. If there is a god, it’s definitely not a mental concept of god—so, again, don’t believe in mental concepts. Do you really think you know for sure whether there is or is not a god? Either way, thinking that you know for sure is a belief you can let go of. Instead embrace the fact that you don’t know. Ideas, concepts, models, maps—they can be very useful. We need them to conduct our lives, and to run our world. It’s not that they’re not useful, because they are obviously incredibly useful. It’s just that none of them is a complete truth, a perfect map of everything. In other words, every model, no matter how useful, is just partial. Partial maps are not eternal truths to be believed. They are ad hoc, temporary tools to make good, practical use of. Never believe a model, map, or system to be an eternal truth. Nothing explains everything. Please don’t believe anything that I’m saying. No problem. Thoughts are really good for making stuff. There is (probably) a reality out there, but it’s not the content of a thought or a feeling. I don’t believe anything, and in my experience there is a serious payoff—a real sense of freedom. It’s impossible to be free if you are anxiously clinging to a belief. Letting go of believing means you can use ideas without getting burned by them. Understanding that the map is never the territory, and that no system of thought can every explain all of reality is the basis of true awakening. Whether it’s called liberation, enlightenment, or realization, it cannot be experienced within a belief system. The thing you’re being liberated from is all belief systems. It’s that simple.

The Do Nothing Meditation is both easier and harder than it sounds. If you practice it often, you’ll find something very deep within you relaxing and opening to the natural flow of experience. And that’s how you find awakening by doing absolutely nothing. Thank you… :^)



>don't believe anything

This is pretty stupid advice, BO. Not surprising.

Consciousness is the only thing we can be certain exists. As for everything else, we have to rely on assumptions (also known as beliefs) to some degree.


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Or you could just not give a fuck.

Seriously, isn't that all this pompous windbag is saying?

NEETs are so much less pretentious than Buddhists and express the same ideas must more concisely.




Repeat after me; thank you for everything I have absolutely nothing to complain about.



What are you babbling about? Thank whom?


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>Is it supposed to prove me wrong, or were you just highlighting the nuances of the Buddhist concept of the self?

The latter. I'm not trying to disprove that there are terms for self and non-self in the realm of Buddhism, nor that there are those with ideologies based around them. What I posted is what the Buddha had to say about the issue.



Ok, fine. However, you can find numerous videos on YouTube of Buddhist monks (as well as the Dalai Lama) talking about how the self is an illusion.

Assuming you're >>449688, I think your stance on having views/beliefs is lazy, cowardly, and just plain naive. As long as you have the intellectual fortitude to be steadfast in your pursuit of truth and admit when you're wrong, there's nothing wrong with having strong opinions.

Will we ever have access to absolute truth? I think that would require omniscience, so, probably not. Knowledge is provisional and we're caught up in an endless process of learning. Don't you think this process requires varying degrees of belief?


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>Sure they both sit around all day and do nothing while other support them, but the NEETs don't have any pretense about being holy or enlightened.

This is true. I don't see NEETs immolating, because of US military prowess. Look at this video of a flaming monk to see how inferior they are to NEETs.




is it only me or do these monks look like alcoholics?


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My writing is incomprehensible to you because of your imaginary position of stubborn opinion. Thank you for the imaginary story of you someplace in time, but that's not liberation. XD



Because of the puffy Booze Face? I think it's just their ching chong genetics.


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It takes you that much effort to do nothing?

Have you tried smoking pot?

I think it can help you.



>my writing is incomprehensible to you

Do you know this, or is it a belief?

>but that's not liberation

Uh oh, I detect another belief.



So you thinking setting yourself on fire is a healthy and productive thing to do?

PS. If you read some history on the Vietnam conflict you'll discover the flaming monk had no impact on the course of events. Neither of the combatants would go to the negotiating table until years after that.


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Have you tried being a moron, oh I'm sorry you are morons. XD


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Oh look it's the easily enraged "enlightened" guy.



>Assuming you're >>449688

No, that was not me.



Kek this


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I'm laughing at your mental illnesses it's very funny to play the schizophrenic games. XD


I'm the Monk :^)



Monks are fags



You 'Being a Moron' on purpose how psychotic is that?

It's very funny to play the schizophrenic games, it's my entertainment, when I'm not doing anything. XD



It's just raw facts


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And you believe that?



just don't pick the wrong monastery


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I don't do monastery, I'm retired and specialize in meditation.

The Neuroscience of the Do Nothing Meditation

There is some very interesting recent neuroscience that backs this idea up. The posterior cingulate cortex (PCC) is a brain structure that is a major player in the default mode network (DMN). The default mode network is active whenever we are distracted and thinking about ourselves. One major study showed that DMN activity is strongly correlated with negative affect, meaning that this preoccupation with the self makes you feel bad. FMRI brain scans show, however, that the activity of the PCC decreases when we let go of the feeling of doing anything. The more it feels like things are just effortlessly happening, the more your PCC and default mode network slow down, which is great for feeling good. In fact, this feeling of letting go and allowing everything to just effortlessly unfold is one of the hallmarks of the flow state, or a peak experience. Most peak experiences only happen with something that we’ve been practicing for years that has become so automatic that it seems effortless. But with the Do Nothing meditation, you can touch a flow state relatively quickly and easily. And if it goes very well you may notice your awakened mind.



This is what we understand of certains phenomenon in the small spectrum of the scientific theory



It's not a theory is there is evidence right?

So you tell me about your imaginary spectrum?



Who is that comfy fren?


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Just me the Monk guy.


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They're called Einfuhlung.



The whole understanding of science is a theory


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When you understand evidence then we can talk ok?




‘Einfühlung is a more extensive concept than sympathy.’

‘Einfühlung arose in a part of empirical psychology that is no longer much cultivated, namely the psychology of aesthetic response.’


German, from ein- ‘into’ + Fühlung ‘feeling’.


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looks like the jew from star wars




No, he's right. Monks are mostly homosexuals. It's documented. Lots of queer hook-ups in those monasteries.

Think about it..who else would want to swear off even seeing a woman and live with a bunch of dudes.



>'I am retired and specialize in meditation.

I'm going start saying that when people ask me what i do.

That is one fancy way of saying I don't do shit.


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Sounds like you know a lot about dudes.


I do nothing meditation, but you already know that, that's why I'm happy and you aren't. XD


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^ autism


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>i do do nothing meditation

well which is it

are you doing something or not


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Meditation is way to do nothing but be extra fucking smug about it.







I think you've mastered the humanoid elephant seal thing.

Time to try something else.

Grow as an artist or something.


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>NEETs don't have any pretense about being holy or enlightened

Speak for yourself.


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This thread was nearly smothered by art.

But it will not die.

Such is the path of not giving a fuck.



neets are faggots that masturbate to >animes with dicks



Still better than being a member of the clergy.


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>And that’s how you find awakening by doing absolutely nothing

This is why Luigi is my rolemodel


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Because there is nothing to find, everything you've been looking for is already here, it's the most natural thing that could happen. Nothing to get, all there is, is this.


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But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man

That he didn't, didn't already have

And Cause never was the reason for the evening

Or the tropic of Sir Galahad

So please believe in me

When I say I'm spinning round, round, round, round

Smoke glass stain'd bright colors

Image going down, down, down, down

Soapsud green like bubbles


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It seems that in the boundless energy that is oneness there can also arise a contracted energy which brings about apparent self-awareness. A powerful and convincing sense of self-identity seems to arise together with a belief in personal free will and choice in what is experienced as a real life story. All of these personal experiences can only apparently arise in what seems to be a very real but dualistic reality in which everything appears to be separate. This sense of separation can bring with it a sense of loss and a need to seek guidance, an understanding or a path or process that can promise fulfilment. There are attempts to seek unity which are totally futile because the separate seeker is apparently the very dualism from which it is trying to escape.


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"It is so obvious and simple that the grasping of it obscures it. Never found, never lost, never knowable, being is the consummate absence that is beyond measure."

"Looking for being is believing that it is lost. Has anything been lost, or is it simply that the looking obscures? Does the beloved dance constantly just beyond our focus?"

"Life is not a task. There is absolutely nothing to attain except the realisation that there is absolutely nothing to attain."



I close my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone

All my dreams pass before my eyes, a curiosity

Dust in the wind

All they are is dust in the wind

Same old song, just a drop of water in an endless sea

All we do crumbles to the ground though we refuse to see

Dust in the wind

All we are is dust in the wind

Oh, ho, ho


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This is a communication which illuminates the paradoxical nature of non-duality and exposes the deluded idea that it is something that can be acquired and experienced.

This dilemma is illuminated in this unique communication which makes no demands, has no expectations and does not cater in any way to the seeker’s need for answers, processes or a path to follow. This uncompromising message can be both confronting and liberating.

The whole personal investment in making spiritual progress, becoming more aware, more still, more open or more anything at all can simply unravel in this radical revelation. The whole perception of “the self” or “the world” it seems to live in, can be transformed and leave nothing to support the illusion of personal separation, control and continuation.

Suddenly, the absence that was feared is the absence which is unknowable, but paradoxically is also the very fullness, the freedom that was longed for.

February 2018


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Or " I don't give a fuck"

Neets express it succinctly and to the point.

Let's get a buzz on and fap to porn!



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or to cut things short.. Nothing mean anything,, let;s get drunk.



What a load of shit.


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Nonduality… the myth

Apparently . . .

Although there is no such thing as nonduality it seems that there are many different ideas about what it could be.

Because the separate seeker experiences everything as a subject object reality it is inevitable that it will see nonduality as a something that can be personally attained and experienced. It will also be seen as a state of no-self that can be taught or energetically transferred.

Attempts are made to use the idea of nonduality as a description of the unknown?

It is often talked about as a something that needs to be integrated, nurtured and supported?

There are even conferences held about its evolutionary development and its possible outcome in another something called the future?

It is amazing how many different beliefs and theories can arise about nothing.

The term nonduality is just that. It is a term similar to Advaita, and refers to the concept of “not two”. The idea of there being “not two” is attempting to define a mystery. The mystery cannot be named or known, of course, but there are certain descriptions which get somewhere near: the formless form, the relative absolute, the empty fullness or what is and is not, which all defy definition and make no sense.

All of these ideas are immediately rejected by the separate seeker who is entirely invested in its own survival and seeks an answer that will satisfy its own experience of reality.

Empty fullness cannot be taught or experienced, for how and where would it be found if it is already all there is? Where would there be a place to stand and know or be aware of nothing and everything?

However, isn’t it wonderful that the dualistic confusion which surrounds something called nonduality is already empty fullness.



If you're so smart why aren't you rich?


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What is what is?

What is What is?

All there is is what is . . . but what is what is?

Well, there is no real answer to that question. However, it seems that what is could be just what is happening . . . reading these words, sitting on a seat, trees growing, sounds, feelings, clouds or thoughts passing by and so on. In simple terms these events just seem to be what is happening. But the perspective here is that the essence of what is happening is an open secret.

It is suggested that what is is oneness appearing as twoness, the absolute being relative. It is the treasure that is longed for and feared most . . . the perfect lover and the grim reaper. It is of course the ultimate paradox, being simultaneously nothing and everything.

There is no possibility of the essence of what is being described, grasped or known.

The seeker attempts to be aware of or conscious of what is and immediately that function separates and objectifies and makes solid that which is wonderfully floating, effervescent and ungraspable.

The essence of what is can’t be seen by me and so me never feels fulfilled because its experiences seem to have something missing.

In what is is also what isn’t. This is the wonder of wholeness because it appears as both simultaneously. Everything that is something is also already nothing . . . there are not two! Everything is therefore real and unreal, but me experiences everything as only real. Within this illusion me attempts to transform this dualistic and unsatisfactory experience into processes such as “living in the moment” or “being here now” or accepting everything as “consciousness”.

However, and again, the wonderful paradox of the play of wholeness is that the story of me is also what is. All of the dreams and hopes, processes and religious aspirations are only wholeness appearing as a separate entity rushing around looking for itself and also hiding from itself by already being everything. And in being everything, even the avoidance or rejection of what is is what is.

So what is longed for constantly sings the only song of freedom that can never be lost or found because it is already all there is.




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The Story of Me

All there is is wholeness . . . boundless energy appearing as everything . . . the sky, trees, feelings, thoughts, whatever. It is the mystery of no thing simultaneously being everything.

There is nothing apart from the boundless everything and yet, because it is free, it can appear to be separate from itself . . . it can appear to be the story of me. There is nothing right or wrong in that appearance which is wholeness apparently happening.

Contracted energy seems to arise in the human being and create a sense of separation out of which arises a unique sense of identity . . . a self consciousness. The me is born and the story of me seems to begin. Me is the story and the story is me and one cannot exist without the other. They both only appear and function in a dualistic subject object reality. Everything seems to be personally experienced as a series of events in real time happening to a real me. Within that story time, journey, purpose and free will and choice seem to be real.

This sense of separation is not just an idea, a thought or a belief. It is a contracted energy embodied in the whole organism which influences every experience. As a consequence the me experiences a tree, the sky, another person, a thought or a feeling through a veil of separation. It is as though me is a something and everything else is lots of other separate somethings happening to me. What arises from this once removed sense is a subtle feeling of dissatisfaction. A feeling that something is lost or hidden.

For most people this sense of dissatisfaction is not that apparent, and because they believe they are individuals with free will and choice they seem motivated to try and create a successful story . . . good relationships, good health, wealth, personal power or whatever else.

However, for some there is a greater sensitivity about something else that seems to be missing. This feeling generates a longing for a deeper sense of fulfilment. There can be an investigation into religion, therapy or the meaning of enlightenment. Because the me has become convinced that it has the means to influence its story, it also assumes that it can find deeper fulfilment through its own choice, determination and action.

The me may, for instance, go to a priest or a therapist or a teacher of enlightenment in order to find what it thinks it needs.

Often because the me feels it has lost something, there can be a sense of inadequacy and so what is pursued is a teaching that satisfies the need to do something which will bring about a personal transformation and make the me worthy of fulfilment. All of this activity is apparently happening within the story of me which is functioning in an artificially dualistic reality. So me is searching in the finite for that which is infinite. It is a something looking for another something, and what it really longs for remains unobtainable by already being everything. It is rather like trying to catch air with a butterfly net. It isn’t difficult, it is wonderfully impossible. The essential futility of that searching inevitably fuels the sense of a me who feels even more unworthy and separate.




However, in the seeking activity there can be experiences along the way that encourage the me to search further and try harder. Personal therapy can bring a transient sense of personal balance in the story. Practices like meditation can bring a state of peace or silence. Self enquiry can bring an apparently progressive experience of understanding and strengthened awareness. But for awareness to function it needs something apart for it to be aware of. Awareness simply feeds separation, and a state of detachment can arise and be mistaken for enlightenment. All of these states come and go within the story of me.

The basis of all teaching of becoming enlightened is the idea that a change of belief or experience can lead to a personal knowing of oneness, self realisation or of discovering your own true nature. The whole investment in a progressive path goes on feeding the story of me attaining something. Even the suggestion of personal surrender or acceptance can be initially attractive and bring a satisfying state . . . for a while. There are many so-called non-dual 'teachings' which feed the story of me becoming liberated.

However, the oneness that is longed for is boundless and free. It cannot be grasped or even approached. Nor is there anything that would need to be done or changed or made better than that which is already everything.

The me experience can be very convincing because “the world” it lives in seems to be dominated by lots of me’s in lots of stories. But the me construct is inconstant and has no foundation. All of the me story is only a dance of wholeness which is without significance or purpose.

A deep and uncompromising exposure of the artificial construct of separation and the story of me can loosen the constraints that keep it locked in place and reveal the way in which seeking can only reinforce the dilemma. The apparent sense of separation, however, is at its essence an energetically contracted energy which no amount of conceptual clarity will ever undo.

When there is an openness to the possibility of that which is beyond self-seeking, then it seems that the contracted energy can evaporate into the boundless freedom which it already is. And still this is only another story which attempts to point to and describe a total paradox . . . the apparent end of something that was never real . . . the story of me.

All there is, is boundless freedom.


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Yes Master.



blah blah blah… paradox.. blah blah blah platitude

All that text.. that no one will read. Who are you virtue signaling to? No one cares. This is /b// If you didn't already know it's all bullshit you wouldn't be here.

Stop it.. admit to yourself you don't give a fuck.


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Nothing for Sale

The Open Secret communication can only point to the simple wonder of being, and attempt to illuminate the futility of seeking for it. It does not accept or reject the teachings of spiritual path or process but it will expose, without compromise, the singular and fundamental misconception that drives the belief that there is something called a seeker that needs to find something else called enlightenment.


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The “me” searches for peace and fulfilment, the “me” searches for selfimprovement or purity, presence or detachment. The “me” seeks clarity or any formula which will give the “me” what it thinks it wants or needs. But the “me” not getting what it wants is not the dilemma. The dilemma is “me”.

No amount of effort, process, clarity or belief can ever bring anything other than more “me” searching for that which the “me” cannot have or know.

The suggestion that separation is only a thought or an understanding that comes or goes in presence is an initially attractive idea for the seeker who dreams of an easy answer which isn’t personally challenging and will bring permanent happiness. Thoughts of separation are only individual stories about an already held state of feeling restricted and apart. If separation was only a thought or a belief, it could be seen through or changed to its opposite, and then “BINGO” there would be liberation . . . you would think!

Such idealistic communications often go hand in hand with a relentless reiteration of the idea that separation is “fine” because there is only ever oneness. This is like telling a blind person that blindness is “fine” because all there is is seeing. Of course there is only oneness. But what apparently arises in oneness is a deep sense of separation which doesn’t feel “fine”.

These conceptual notions speak only of symptoms and do not recognise the source of the apparent dilemma that can fill every part of feeling separate.



Anon, I don't know what to tell you, but…

Buddhists don't believe in karma.


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In essence what is sought is love. But it is the love that is absolute, all-embracing and eternal. It is this overwhelming love that many have glimpsed, and which I attempted to describe in The Open Secret when I seemed to be walking across a park and then was no more anyone. It wasn’t experienced because there was suddenly no experiencer. It was a glimpse that no-one glimpsed. I then returned as “a someone” and tried again and again to re-discover that unconditional love which I could not know.

It is that love which is alluded to in literature, music and art. The most fascinating love stories are about unrequited love, because they point to that absolute love which the individual cannot possess. The powerful fascination of falling in love comes out of a primal sense that in that love you could be lost. It is that overwhelming love which is in all of our longing and is the fullness in the emptiness, the everything in the nothing. It is unconditional love which also appears as its opposite. Wonderfully, it is also that very love which constantly sings to us through our senses and in every part of the aliveness that is happening.

Liberation is a word used to describe an apparent release from the illusion of feeling imprisoned and apart from love, or wholeness. That shift is essentially an energetic release out of contraction into boundlessness.

Whenever and wherever there is a deep and uncompromising sharing together of the very real paradox of being, a palpable resonance can emerge. Out of that openness there can be a release of that contraction into boundlessness and what arises is the wonder of simply being.


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>christian feeding the homeless

yer great, alleviate the problem rather than those that cause the problem in the first place.

So benign, so holy, so saintly.

Fuck those faggots who cant look past simple deeds and see the malevolence in their actions.

Giving hands outs can create dependency, look at blacks.

Fuck im mad.


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> NEETs don't have any pretense about being holy or enlightened.

speak for yourself


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What is this all about?


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