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 No.40

Films & TV shows (not featuring best Emma) discussed in the Best Emma Generals over at /tv/ (incomplete list):

Planet of the Vampires from 1965 directed by Mario Bava

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre directed by Tobe Hooper

Thief directed by Michael Mann

The Driver – stars Isabella Adjani; one of the inspirations for NWR’s Drive?

No Man’s Land – stars Charlie Sheen & D. B. Sweeney

Black Moon Rising – stars Linda Hamilton & Tommy Lee Jones, based on an idea by John Carpenter

Cobra – classic ’80s action with Sylvester Stallone & Bridgette Nielsen

Twin Peaks & Twin Peaks: The Return, directed by David Lynch (and others)

Bronson, Valhalla Rising, Drive, Only God Forgives & The Neon Demon directed by Nicolas Winding Refn

Starry Eyes – artsy horror in the same vein as NWR’s The Neon Demon. Trailer: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=2JbO0eIc3jM

The Guest directed by Adam Wingard

The Gifted – stars Emma Roberts Dumont

The VVitch

Let Her Out – trailer: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=xqTeAlzawhs

Like Me – trailer: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=fl6asDDdTDw

Tragedy Girls – slasher comedy with a strong, colourful ’80s aesthetic. trailer: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=3GmFP7pfz1U

Films starring best Emma could have their own, individual threads, a general thread, or go here as well.

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 No.41

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>>40

Is that you Eastman?


 No.43

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Let me add some to the list:

Suspiria by Dario Argento, one of the most influential films in the horror genre.

Halloween by John Carpenter, also one of the most influential films in the horror genre.

Non si sevizia un Paperino (Don't torture a duckling) - Gritty giallo directed by Lucio Fulci.

Murderock - uccide a passo di danza (also known as Murder Rock, Murder-Rock: Dancing Death, Slashdance and The Demon Is Loose!) - 80s slasher/giallo by Lucio Fulci, inspired by Flashdance. Starring the wonderful Greek scream queen Olga Karlatos. Its footage has been used by Carpenter Brut for the "Le Perv" music video and others.

Death Proof' - Grindhouse slasher, 70s style. Directed by Quentin Tarantino.

The Hidden - Sci-fi neon thriller directed by Jack Sholder

Cold In July - Neon noir thriller set in the 80s, directed by Jim Mickle with Michael C. Hall and Don Johnson.

The Editor - Neo giallo directed by Adam Brooks and Matthew Kennedy.

La polizia chiede aiuto (What have they done to our daughters) - Giallo/poliziottesco crossover by Massimo Dallamano.

They Live, Escape from NY, Escape from LA, Big Trouble in Little China, Christine - Films by John Carpenter.

I think we could post films and shows starring Best Emma here with a bit of commentary and make generals for deeper discussion, linked on the posts in this thread. What do you think?


 No.47

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>>41

Woah! BO? Fancy seeing you here!

>>43

Great idea.


 No.50

File: b3d1a4d118060c8⋯.webm (10.05 MB, 640x360, 16:9, 26 reasons why post-mille….webm)

Rewatched Rob Ager’s video essay on why post millennial films are shite, and the third reason he lists is ‘OCD cinematography’, which made me think of a certain hapa who is obsessed with symmetrical shots and prefers to think of the film as the work of the cinematographer, rather than the director.

Full video essay here: 26 reasons why post-millennial movies are so awful !!!: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=BPMfCJpfhdo


 No.53

>>47

>Woah! BO? Fancy seeing you here!

Cheers!

>Great idea.

I'm glad we're on the same page. I'm kinda busy right now but I'll add her shows when I have the time.

>>50

Can't disagree with anything in that excerpt honestly. I'll watch the whole thing when I have some free time.

It definitely describes what we've seen.


 No.57

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>>53

My only gripe with Ager’s video was when he talks about heroes and villains acting dumber in post-millennial films, and he uses the protagonists in ‘The Driver’ (starring Ryan O’Neal & Isabella Adjani) and NWR’s ‘Drive’ as examples. There are obvious similarities between the two films, and I think it is safe to say ‘The Driver’ inspired some scenes in ‘Drive’, such as the first getaway, but I think he completely missed the point of Gosling’s character and the tone of ‘Drive’.

‘The Driver’ is a realistic crime thriller, while ‘Drive’ is nothing of the sort; it is a throwback to ’80s crime thrillers, but the atmosphere is almost dreamlike, and the Driver character is not supposed to be taken realistically – both NWR & Gosling are on record stating that Driver actually believes himself to be a werewolf! Like in NWR’s other films, his protagonists and films are symbolic in nature, and not meant to be taken literally.

<Nicolas Winding Refn Says ‘Drive’ Was About The Purity Of Love With His Wife; Says Driver Was A Werewolf | IndieWire: http://archive.is/2qJgW

<'Drive' Director Confirms Gosling's Character Was A Werewolf - MTV: http://archive.is/oWCdh


 No.58

File: 0eb0be129a54b33⋯.mp4 (2.59 MB, 608x336, 38:21, Definite trash.mp4)

>>57

I'd add that 'The Driver' focuses a lot more on actual driving that 'Drive'. Being a driver defines the character in 'The Driver' than it does in 'Drive'. "The Driver" is a quintessential car chase movie.

Gosling's driver is a lot more violent than O’Neal's (funny that both are called Ryan). O'Neal's character is almost a pacifist and he dislikes guns. He seems troubled after he kills a man. Gosling's is a violent yet cold killer. He takes no pleasure in it but he has no problem doing it either. Their motivations are very different too.


 No.107

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>>58

Yeah, Gosling’s character comes off as an emotionless killer when he is forced to take action. I don’t recall what is reaction was when Christina Hendrick’s character died, but the only reason we saw any reaction after he stomped the assassin’s head in in the elevator, was because of Irene seeing his true colours. I think the only emotion he felt at that was regret that she had found out what he is capable of.

With the exception of Jessie in ‘The Neon Demon’, all of NWR’s protagonists have been mostly silent, stoic men of action. In ‘Valhalla Rising’ he told Mads Mikkelsen that his character, One Eye, was ‘a monolith’, and that he shouldn’t show any emotion that all – he was portraying almost a force of nature, and certainly not a human character.

Also, going with the werewolf identity, it perfectly explains why he put on the mask when he confronted Nino – Driver believed himself to be a werewolf, and he used the mask as a disguise.

Funny how many Ryans we have mentioned now – there’s also, of course, Ryan Murphy.


 No.113

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>>107

That blood... that blood looks almost giallo-like.

And speaking of Ryan... "The Nice Guys" is worth a watch. Set in the 80s, neon noir, funny and this time /ourguy/ plays a very different character than he usually does.


 No.114

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>>113

>That blood... that blood looks almost giallo-like.

It does. And I am so glad NWR didn’t add CGI blood in post, like he did in ‘Valhalla Rising’. One reason I have heard for using CGI blood is that it saves time – they don’t have to do several takes and risk getting fake blood everywhere, possibly having to change costumes and clean the set between takes.

The blood in Tim Burton’s ‘Sleepy Hollow’ has a very distinct look as well, an obvious homage to the Hammer Horror films. There is a reference to Mario Bava’s ‘Black Sunday’ (1960) & Roger Corman’s ‘Pit and the Pendulum’ (1961) in Burton’s ‘Sleepy Hollow’ as well, with a woman trapped in an iron maiden – in ‘Black Sunday’ her face is shown with puncture marks from the spikes, which is also the case in ‘Sleepy Hollow’. The character trapped in the iron maiden in both ‘Black Sunday’ & ‘Pit and the Pendulum’ was played by Barbara Steele.

>>113

"The Nice Guys"

I’ve heard people praise it as a throwback to action/comedy buddy cop films. It’s been on my radar for a while, but all I know about it comes from some reviews. I think it is set in the late ’70s though (1977?).


 No.115

File: 7ca3bc553aef0c1⋯.png (1.15 MB, 1281x534, 427:178, the nice guys.png)

>>114

>I think it is set in the late ’70s though (1977?).

You may be right, it's been a while since I watched it. Late 70s were almost as good as the 80s in my book though, except maybe for the music. I like 70s music but not nearly as much as 80s music. Too many boring artists and styles in that time, with the whole obsession with sustain and stuff. Fashion was cool but bordering on the tasteless (talking about the colorful suits and the shirts with huge collars here). I enjoy them but view them as a sort of guilty pleasure. The 80s had a lot more aesthetic sense.

And yes, its an action/comedy buddy cop film, but it has noir in the mix too.

Angourie Rice delivers a great performance by the way.


 No.119

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>>115

Yeah, fashion and music from the late ’70s bled into the ’80s unnoticed – Italo Disco started in the 1970s as electronic music started catching on. Fashion in the 1970s was mostly atrocious though – everything from the corduroy fabric to the mustard yellow, brown and orange colours that seemed to be everywhere, bell-bottom pants, &c.

The 1970s gave us the grittier, more brutal horror films, slashers, and the first Italiansploitation and giallo films though, so at least something good came out of the decade. And I’d take a good throwback to late ’70s buddy cop action comedies over the shameless ’80s nostalgia trash Hollywood is trying to pander to now that they have found out the 1980s is en vogue.


 No.123

>>119

I liked Kung Fury tbh.

But I know what you're saying, there's tons of insincere pandering out there that doesn't yield good results. Happens in the music scene too.


 No.139

File: c5f6fe158e91de0⋯.gif (3.47 MB, 700x394, 350:197, Hfzf14T (1).gif)

>>123

I haven’t seen that one yet, I DL’d it before my PC crashed, but the audio was Ruski.

I might give it a watch though, since it is a short and an indie film – the makers obviously love the aesthetic and the types of action films the ’80s gave us. I’m much more critical of big studio productions that do this pandering shit – ‘Moonbeam City’ for example. Awful writing and useless celeb voice acting with a nice packaging.


 No.143

>>114

You're not seriously comparing Tim Burton trash to Mario Bava, are you?


 No.145

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>139

>I might give it a watch though, since it is a short and an indie film – the makers obviously love the aesthetic and the types of action films the ’80s gave us.

It's pretty nice.

The official movie in English is in youtube, embed related.

>I’m much more critical of big studio productions that do this pandering shit – ‘Moonbeam City’ for example. Awful writing and useless celeb voice acting with a nice packaging.

I see what you say. The gradients don't do the Nagel style artwork any favors either.


 No.163

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File: 091e1ecdaacd66c⋯.jpg (18.91 KB, 680x400, 17:10, The-Neon-Demon-Ruby-filmlo….jpg)

I’ve been thinking about posting some of my interpretations and thoughts on NWR’s ‘The Neon Demon’ for some time, but I haven’t found the time to do so till now.

WARNING:

Cyclopean spoilers ahead!

The blue triangles seen on the catwalk scene – according to the DP, Natasha Braier, the catwalk scene was a deliberate reference to the myth of Narcissus; the colour blue, the water, the mirrors and Jesse kissing her own reflection. The inverted triangle is an ancient symbol representing the feminine, water & the womb; it is the ‘Chalice of Life’. There are three inverted triangles in this scene, which could symbolise Ruby, Gigi & Sarah. The triangles/scene then turns from blue to red, symbolising danger, as Jesse becomes aware of the effect her beauty has. Water (Elemental Water, “Chalice”) on the Symbol Dictionary: http://symboldictionary.net/?p=1097

Ruby – I think Ruby is the ‘Neon Demon’ and I think she is much older than she appears. She lives, seemingly, all alone in a large, empty mansion and she performs cannibalistic/blood rituals to retain her looks & youth. When she draws the symbol on the mirror she appears uncertain and doubting at first, she cares about Jesse (there might be some romantic feelings there as well), but she knows she can use her beauty to retain her own looks and beauty, so she decides to go through with the ritual. When Gigi & Sarah are showering, washing away Jesse’s blood, Ruby has painted herself red with the blood and is resting in a bathtub filled with blood, reminiscent of countess Elizabeth Báthory, who was known as ‘The Blood Countess’ & ‘Countess Dracula’ and was said to torture and kill hundreds of young virgin women and then bathe in their blood to retain her youth. Natasha Braier even mentions, jokingly(?) that “the models are actually blood thirsty vampires”, possibly confirming the link between Ruby & Elizabeth Báthory. When Ruby cleans the pool and buries the remains of Jesse, she is topless, and we see several tattoos on her torso and upper arms. I haven’t been able to find high res images of her tattoos, but I do not think they are random or shown without reason. Ruby is then shown at home, alone in the mansion naked at night, she lies down on the floor and expels a large amount of blood that she consumed from Jesse. Relieving herself of the blood after the consumption appears to be a part of her ritual and possibly even necessary.

Sarah – further cementing the ‘vampire’ theory is the scene with Jesse & Sarah in the bathroom after the casting process. Sarah throws a fit and cracks the mirror, after she and Jesse talks, Jesse cuts her hand on a piece of the broken mirror – Sarah takes her hand and licks the blood, which causes Jesse to recoil in shock.

Gigi – because her beauty wasn’t natural and had been enhanced artificially by plastic surgery (‘The Bionic Woman’), her body could not undergo the ritual, and instead she experienced a pain so terrible that she couldn’t endure it, causing her to disembowel herself with a pair of scissors and throw up one of Jesse’s eyeballs.

Here is the interview with Natasha Braier, where she talks about the use of colours and mentions vampires:

How I Created the Tripped Out Visuals for The Neon Demon | Amuse: http://archive.is/5lucz


 No.173

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>>145

So, I just got done watching ‘Kung Fury’…

It was much better than ’Moonbeam City’, and it even felt more like a balls-to-the-walls cartoon than ‘Moonbeam City’ ever did. The jokes were a bit hit and miss, the only bad one being the two Nazi guards talking about their moustaches – I think it would have been less annoying if they spoke English with heavy German accents, rather than trying to pass of Swedish with a few German words as German. I was hoping there’d be an epic showdown at the end, so that felt anticlimactic – all that build-up to a kung fu fight and then they pull something like that? What a fucking cop-out that was. I also didn’t much care for them turning Hitler into a cowardly bitch when confronted by Kung Fury, but I guess that is to be expected in the current year.

Aesthetically it was very good though – the special effects were much better than you would expect from a crowd-funded short film like that. The music was amazing as well. It didn’t come off as one of the shameless cashgrabs by Hollywood that hope to capitalise off of the ’80s retrowave.


 No.175

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>173

I'm glad you enjoyed it, it's great comedy. I was sold the moment I learned a neo 80s tongue-in-cheek movie existed and that it had a Lamborghini Countach and the Hoff in it, being a Knight Rider fan myself (I got hooked on it from watching it on Retro/TCM in my early teens, just like with Wonder Woman).

I guess the faux German was good enough for me but it'd upset someone who knows German and Scandinavian languages.

I had to go back and check out the ending because I didn't remember much (I watched it with friends like 2 or 3 years ago) and honestly I didn't dislike it much. Yes, it's sort of a cop-out but it's better than you'd normally expect these days.

I didn't remember the dinosaurs and the viking girls with machine guns, it's just perfect.

As for Hitler being depicted as he was, I think they did something refreshing: they made him "look bad" in a much more overly cartoonish way than usual, so it doesn't work well as propaganda and he's merely a character. And he survives in a way that reminds me of many 80s slashers and neo 80s too, like The Guest where the "villain" is thought to be dead and then revealed to be still alive in the last moment.

>Aesthetically it was very good though – the special effects were much better than you would expect from a crowd-funded short film like that. The music was amazing as well. It didn’t come off as one of the shameless cashgrabs by Hollywood that hope to capitalise off of the ’80s retrowave.

Indeed. And the Miami Vice style shots were a very welcome surprise.

It seems like Scandinavians are the best when it comes to 80s revival, check this Norwegian ad for a used DeLorean.


 No.177

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>>175

Yeah, it was a nice over-the-top parody of the high-testosterone action cop of the 1980s.

I think the British sitcom ’Allo, ’Allo! nailed the way to do French/German dialogue in comedy – the German characters speak with a heavy German accent, the French characters likewise with a French accent – the few British characters act overly British. One of the characters, a British agent who is undercover as a French small-town cop, is oblivious to the fact that he can’t speak the language properly, which results in a lot of awkward situations as he butchers the language.

I think that would have worked better in ‘Kung Fury’ too – just have the Germans speak with a heavy German accent and non-German characters pretend that they can’t understand them because they are speaking German.

KF was a much better comedy with Nazis than ‘Iron Sky’ – I am pretty sure it had better effects too, despite ‘Iron Sky’ being a full length film with, I assume, a much bigger budget.

You could easily argue that Kung Fury was a semi-villain in the film – he butchers masses of Nazis/soldiers, and it looked like he liked killing too.

>I didn't remember the dinosaurs and the viking girls with machine guns, it's just perfect.

I think I would have liked to see the Viking chick & the female barbarian as the main characters tbh. Have them be transported into a dystopian, war-torn Terminator-esque future. Just a shameless Frank Frazetta/Red Sonja/She-Ra rip-off, like the Italians did back in the day.

>check this Norwegian ad for a used DeLorean.

That is Todd Terje! This guy makes some kickass ’80s-inspired synthwave music! He had at least one hit (that I remember) on national radio too – ‘Inspector Norse’. I had no idea he owned a DeLorean too.

Another ’80s-esque song that was a hit on radio here around the same time was ‘Then the Heartbreak’ by Shy for Shore – very similar in style to ‘A Real Hero’ by College & Electric Youth.

Shy for Shore – Then the Heartbreak: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=xhPOjDdbaNs

If there is one film where Hollywood should embrace the ’80s retrowave, it is the upcoming ‘He-Man and the Masters of the Universe’ film. I want a synthwave score, the same colours & aesthetic of the cartoon show & practical effects – they need to embrace the campiness factor of the show without going overboard. I do not want to see a grimdark re-imagining that takes itself seriously and is updated for the current year.

NWR has said that he wants to do a superhero film, why not let him direct He-Man? He’d make Eternia look like Bava’s ‘Planet of the Vampires’ in terms of colours.


 No.180

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>>177

Checked!

>Yeah, it was a nice over-the-top parody of the high-testosterone action cop of the 1980s.

The triceracop had me in stitches. It's even funnier because they decided to exaggerate the disparity in buddy cop films, instead of a black cop they put a dinosaur.

>I think the British sitcom ’Allo, ’Allo! nailed the way to do French/German dialogue in comedy – the German characters speak with a heavy German accent, the French characters likewise with a French accent – the few British characters act overly British. One of the characters, a British agent who is undercover as a French small-town cop, is oblivious to the fact that he can’t speak the language properly, which results in a lot of awkward situations as he butchers the language.

Sounds hilarious, but it'd probably be lost in translation for me

>I think that would have worked better in ‘Kung Fury’ too – just have the Germans speak with a heavy German accent and non-German characters pretend that they can’t understand them because they are speaking German.

It'd honestly break the comedy for me. I'd rather get actual German with captions.

>KF was a much better comedy with Nazis than ‘Iron Sky’ – I am pretty sure it had better effects too, despite ‘Iron Sky’ being a full length film with, I assume, a much bigger budget.

It absolutely was, besides Iron Sky is disgusting propaganda. I like this song though: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=jgyH5_JMBts

Can't go wrong with Laibach. And if you're in the mood for some aesthetically pleasing gaming, check out "The Saboteur". It features a similar soundtrack to Iron Sky https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=lxN7JDPVsTU

It's disgusting propaganda and you have to kill our guys in it but the Sin City style colors (black and white with yellow and red accents), the car races and the Assassin's Creed style gameplay make it a blast to play. Even if your mission is to (((liberate))) France.

>You could easily argue that Kung Fury was a semi-villain in the film – he butchers masses of Nazis/soldiers, and it looked like he liked killing too.

That's an interesting point. Specially when regular people are starting to reject the antifags and getting labeled "nazis" by them.

>I think I would have liked to see the Viking chick & the female barbarian as the main characters tbh. Have them be transported into a dystopian, war-torn Terminator-esque future. Just a shameless Frank Frazetta/Red Sonja/She-Ra rip-off, like the Italians did back in the day.

Based Italians, I wish we had some of that stuff being released nowadays.

>That is Todd Terje! This guy makes some kickass ’80s-inspired synthwave music! He had at least one hit (that I remember) on national radio too – ‘Inspector Norse’. I had no idea he owned a DeLorean too.

He made the music video/ad but the DeLorean belongs to some guy named Frank (if he hasn't sold it yet).

>Another ’80s-esque song that was a hit on radio here around the same time was ‘Then the Heartbreak’ by Shy for Shore – very similar in style to ‘A Real Hero’ by College & Electric Youth.

>Shy for Shore – Then the Heartbreak: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=xhPOjDdbaNs

Amazing track, I think it reminds me more of Robert Parker though: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=Z1oB2EDu5XA

Which is funny because he's another Scandinavian, Swedish this time. I wonder if the popularity that ABBA enjoyed back in the day helped make the Scandinavian countries into the fountain of synthwave it is now.

>If there is one film where Hollywood should embrace the ’80s retrowave, it is the upcoming ‘He-Man and the Masters of the Universe’ film. I want a synthwave score, the same colours & aesthetic of the cartoon show & practical effects – they need to embrace the campiness factor of the show without going overboard. I do not want to see a grimdark re-imagining that takes itself seriously and is updated for the current year.

Yeah, a Nolan style version would absolutely suck. He-Man is campy, anything else doesn't fit.

>NWR has said that he wants to do a superhero film, why not let him direct He-Man? He’d make Eternia look like Bava’s ‘Planet of the Vampires’ in terms of colours.

Please happen! NWR would likely be even more intense than Bava in that regard.


 No.189

File: d11a9fd30638f75⋯.mp4 (15.44 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Beyond the Black Rainbow T….mp4)

Has anyone seen Beyond the Black Rainbow by Panos Cosmatos? It looks good.


 No.190

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File: d01a92ba074c7b0⋯.jpg (49.28 KB, 1000x597, 1000:597, Sei-donne-per-l'assassino-….jpg)

Also check out this 1964 Mario Bava giallo I found, Sei donne per l'assassino.

This shot looks familiar, I think Michael Goi paid homage to it


 No.193

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>>190

Not sure if it was intentional or not, but the Red Devil costume in SQ reminds me of the one in the 1972 giallo film ‘The Red Queen Kills Seven Times’ (‘La dama rossa uccide sette volte’) by Emilio P. Miraglia – the killer wearing a the billowing red cape, the black pants and boots, holding a butcher knife… I think the red cape over the black leather jacket and gloves in TRQKST is the superior costume compared to the cumbersome-looking ‘breastplate’ worn by the Red Devil though.


 No.194

>>193

Barbara Bouchet is in it? I guess I'll have to watch it, she was great in Non si sevizia un paperino (Don't Torture a Duckling) by Lucio Fulci.


 No.195

>>193

And I agree about the breastplate being cumbersome (and ugly in my opinion), although maybe you couldn't have women under the suit without it so it'd take one element of mystery away.


 No.198

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>>180

>Sounds hilarious, but it'd probably be lost in translation for me

Nah, it works really well – probably the best British comedy show along with ‘Keeping Up Appearances’. It is just a lot of ridiculous and ever more complicated and outlandish situations in occupied France as the hapless café owner René is forced to help both the Germans and the underground resistance with their schemes to win the war, and at the same time try to keep his hag wife from finding out that he is banging all the barmaids. A lot of loveable characters and very memorable scenes and quotable lines from this show. I think seasons 1-5 are the best. Well worth a watch.

>Based Italians, I wish we had some of that stuff being released nowadays.

Luckily there are a lot of Italian-made films I have yet to see. I very much doubt we’ll get anything close in terms of entertainment and quality in the current year.

>Iron Sky

Aye – a lot of bad ideas and wasted potential. It would have worked much better as a short film, and without the disgusting racemixing thrown in for good measure.

>The Saboteur

Sounds fun - it is allows for open world/sandbox mayhem à la GTA.

>Yeah, a Nolan style version would absolutely suck.

Chances are it will fuck it up – badly. They are probably going to do some changes to make it more serious and dark, and not the campy, fun ’80s action film it should be – a mix between John Milius’ ‘Conan the Barbarian’ & ‘The Empire Strikes Back’.

>Please happen! NWR would likely be even more intense than Bava in that regard.

If only the script wasn’t written by David S. Goyer… Goyer is a terrible screenwriter, and I think NWR would need more creative freedom than Goyer’s script would provide. That and they are probably aiming to film He-Man ASAP, before the rights revert back to Mattel.

A NWR Batgirl film sounds awesome as well, and he actually sounds interested in doing that.

According to this article he also shouted “Violence, motherfuckers!” to start a scene in ‘The Neon Demon’ & “Let’s fuck.” on ‘Drive’.

- Nicolas Winding Refn thinks he could make a pretty good Batgirl movie: https://web.archive.org/web/20180225005251/https://news.avclub.com/nicolas-winding-refn-thinks-he-could-make-a-pretty-good-1798248751


 No.199

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>>189

Not yet! That trailer looks too good for me to pass it up. I’ve been thinking about checking out Under The Skin too, since the trailer looks equally beautiful. Not sure what to make of ScarJo’s British accent though.


 No.202

>>199 (Checked)

>ScarJo

I tend to avoid her stuff. Can't stand her voice and plastic looks and she's too kosher for my taste honestly.


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>>198

>Nah, it works really well – probably the best British comedy show along with ‘Keeping Up Appearances’. It is just a lot of ridiculous and ever more complicated and outlandish situations in occupied France as the hapless café owner René is forced to help both the Germans and the underground resistance with their schemes to win the war, and at the same time try to keep his hag wife from finding out that he is banging all the barmaids. A lot of loveable characters and very memorable scenes and quotable lines from this show. I think seasons 1-5 are the best. Well worth a watch.

>Frenchman is a cuck

color me surprised lol

>Luckily there are a lot of Italian-made films I have yet to see. I very much doubt we’ll get anything close in terms of entertainment and quality in the current year.

We live in the age of PC now so I don't have much hopes for that either.

>Aye – a lot of bad ideas and wasted potential. It would have worked much better as a short film, and without the disgusting racemixing thrown in for good measure.

But it wouldn't fulfill (((their))) goals that way.

>Sounds fun - it is allows for open world/sandbox mayhem à la GTA.

It is indeed a sandbox, and the German areas are perma-occupied. I don't remember seeing racemixing propaganda pushed in it either. It has racing in 30s race cars including a Silver Arrow model that resembles pic related.

>Chances are it will fuck it up – badly. They are probably going to do some changes to make it more serious and dark, and not the campy, fun ’80s action film it should be – a mix between John Milius’ ‘Conan the Barbarian’ & ‘The Empire Strikes Back’.

That's honestly sad. But we live in the age of capeshit so it's to be expected.

>If only the script wasn’t written by David S. Goyer… Goyer is a terrible screenwriter, and I think NWR would need more creative freedom than Goyer’s script would provide. That and they are probably aiming to film He-Man ASAP, before the rights revert back to Mattel.

I guess I'll pirate it just in case.

>A NWR Batgirl film sounds awesome as well, and he actually sounds interested in doing that.

He's the man who can pull off camp and grim at the same time. I can picture a gorier, campier and neon lit version of Batman (1989). Not Joel Schumacher's garbage that was faggy rather than campy and where violence was weak and bland.

Seconds before hitting "post", I realized that a Batgirl movie would have to be rated PG-13 at most, because let's face it, superhero movies are first and foremost for kids. And I can't picture Warner letting him direct one of their films given his record, too hardcore for them. The only way I can imagine it succeeding is if it was released in two version, PG-13 and R

>According to this article he also shouted “Violence, motherfuckers!” to start a scene in ‘The Neon Demon’ & “Let’s fuck.” on ‘Drive’.

I love this guy lol. And if he said that on "The Neon Demon", it likely was in an scene featuring Elle Fanning. The very innocence that her character had in it makes picturing it in my mind absolutely hysterical.


 No.227

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>>202

I don’t think I have ever seen a film with her in it…

Not expecting great acting from her, but Americans doing a Brit accent is almost always bad news. That trailer looks a bit too enticing to pass up though…

>>203

>Frenchman is a cuck

Ehhh… sorta, maybe. René has to fake his own death in one episode and shows up as his identical twin brother. Problem is his wife is now the legal owner of the restaurant, and the local undertaker is hoping to woo the widow. René obviously doesn’t love his nagging wife, but he doesn’t want to lose the café either.

>The Saboteur

Nice! I do like the aesthetics of those old racing cars and the occupied France setting sounds comfy.

>NWR’s Batgirl

I think the main thing that the MPAA cracks down on in films is showing red blood – that and swearing. As long as he can keep the swearing to interviews he should be good.

I’ve been toying around with an idea how to avoid cutting a film to get the coveted PG-13 rating and still show rivers of blood on screen: UV-light. One scene I had come up with took place at a Halloween party at a frathouse, and like in Edgar Allan Poe’s story ‘The Masque of the Red Death’, every room would be lit with a different colour and decorated with a matching colour-scheme – and all the lighting in the house would be blacklight/UV-light – glow-in-the-dark decorations, UV-light jack-o’-lanterns, &c. – when blood is shown under UV-light it looks glowing white, so technically there wouldn’t be any red blood on the screen. Same with those public bathrooms that are illuminated with a blue light to prevent drug addicts from injecting themselves in there (since it is really hard to see the vein under blue light) – again the blood would look white, and you should be able to avoid cutting the scenes from the film!

>I love this guy lol.

I’m sure the actors and actresses (and crew) all could tell a lot of interesting stories from the filming, or from their first meeting with him/the casting process. According to the interview in >>179, he had originally planned to cast a pornstar for Christina Hendrick’s character.


 No.228

>>227

>Ehhh… sorta, maybe. René has to fake his own death in one episode and shows up as his identical twin brother. Problem is his wife is now the legal owner of the restaurant, and the local undertaker is hoping to woo the widow. René obviously doesn’t love his nagging wife, but he doesn’t want to lose the café either.

I misinterpreted your post completely, I thought it was her fucking around lol.

>Nice! I do like the aesthetics of those old racing cars and the occupied France setting sounds comfy.

It is, although until you "liberate" it, /ourguys/ will shoot you on sight, specially in the later stages of the game. You unlock cars and can call the resistance to bring them to you nearly at will (although they'll take a little while, so don't expect your car to arrive in time to save your life in a gunfight).

>I think the main thing that the MPAA cracks down on in films is showing red blood – that and swearing. As long as he can keep the swearing to interviews he should be good.

>I’ve been toying around with an idea how to avoid cutting a film to get the coveted PG-13 rating and still show rivers of blood on screen: UV-light. One scene I had come up with took place at a Halloween party at a frathouse, and like in Edgar Allan Poe’s story ‘The Masque of the Red Death’, every room would be lit with a different colour and decorated with a matching colour-scheme – and all the lighting in the house would be blacklight/UV-light – glow-in-the-dark decorations, UV-light jack-o’-lanterns, &c. – when blood is shown under UV-light it looks glowing white, so technically there wouldn’t be any red blood on the screen. Same with those public bathrooms that are illuminated with a blue light to prevent drug addicts from injecting themselves in there (since it is really hard to see the vein under blue light) – again the blood would look white, and you should be able to avoid cutting the scenes from the film!

If you're right about this, that'd be a fantastic idea.

>I’m sure the actors and actresses (and crew) all could tell a lot of interesting stories from the filming, or from their first meeting with him/the casting process. According to the interview in >>179, he had originally planned to cast a pornstar for Christina Hendrick’s character.

That cracked me up.

Did you notice this part?

<So you get these strange phone calls, and one thing I’ve learned is: take the meeting, take the meeting! You never know what’s going to happen.

I wonder if it influenced Hotline Miami, with the game being inspired by Drive itself.


 No.238

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>>228

>I misinterpreted your post completely, I thought it was her fucking around lol.

No, no - a lot of the comedy comes from her catching him in the arms of one of the barmaids and him coming up with the most absurd reasons why.

>I wonder if it influenced Hotline Miami, with the game being inspired by Drive itself.

I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out to be true. I’d like to see some interviews with the guys behind Dennaton Games where they talk about the inspirations and the story of the game.

Hammer time!

So… I’ve been watching a lot of classic Hammer horror films lately– their Dracula/vampire & Frankenstein series in particular. I absolutely love these Gothic horror film – everything from the atmospheric sets and visuals, the great performances and the bold use of blood and gore – really pushing the limits for the time. IMHO these are better than many of Universal’s monster films from the 1930s & 1940s.

For anyone who want to check out Hammer horror, I would recommend the following (of the films I have seen so far):

The Curse of Frankenstein – Hammer’s first colour horror film. Stars Peter Cushing (as Dr. Frankenstein) & Christopher Lee (as the creature). Lee isn’t given much to do as the creature, no dialogue, but Cushing is terrific in the role.

(Horror of) Dracula – A bold new take on Count Dracula, that shows a much more savage and animalistic side to the character. Introduces Peter Cushing as Van Helsing & Christopher Lee as Count Dracula. Michael Gough is also in it, and despite the naysayers, I quite liked his performance in this.

The Revenge of Frankenstein – a direct sequel to their first Frankenstein film. Peter Cushing returns as Dr. Frankenstein, and also directed by Hammer regular Terence Fisher. A great sequel. I would skip ‘The Evil of Frankenstein’, since it is a reboot with elements from the Universal Frankenstein films – the sets look fantastic though, and Cushing gives a great performance. I might skip ‘The Horror of Frankenstein’, which is also a remake and doesn’t star Cushing. Also, I have yet to see ‘Frankenstein Created Woman’ & ‘Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed’, but I have seen the final instalment in the series, ‘Frankenstein and the Monster from Hell’, which is great!

The Brides of Dracula – Hammer’s followup to ‘(Horror of) Dracula’, but not a sequel – it also lacks Lee as Dracula, but Cushing reprises his role as Van Helsing. A great, very atmospheric horror film – the beginning is very suspenseful and looks amazing - Yvonne Monlaur is absolutely stunning in this and Cushing is great as always! I would recommend this over the direct sequel to ‘(Horror of) Dracula’, ‘Dracula: Prince of Darkness’, which IMHO was a letdown; Cushing doesn’t return, Lee isn’t given any dialogue at all (supposedly he hated the lines and refused to say them), and the story isn’t anything special at all. Suzann Farmer is a qt, and the actor who plays her husband also played Dr. Frankenstein’s assistant in ‘The Revenge of Frankenstein’.

The Karnstein Trilogy – Hammer made three films based on J. Sheridan Le Fanu’s ‘Carmilla’: ‘The Vampire Lovers’, ‘Lust for a Vampire’ & ‘Twins of Evil’. The first film is fantastic – it stars Peter Cushing, Ingrid Pitt & Madeline Smith. The sequel is also good, but IMHO the third film is not really a part of the same films, since ‘Carmilla’ hardly is in it – Cushing is great as always though, playing a puritan witch-hunter burning witches left and right.


 No.241

>>238

>So… I’ve been watching a lot of classic Hammer horror films lately– their Dracula/vampire & Frankenstein series in particular. I absolutely love these Gothic horror film – everything from the atmospheric sets and visuals, the great performances and the bold use of blood and gore – really pushing the limits for the time. IMHO these are better than many of Universal’s monster films from the 1930s & 1940s.

Well, to be fair there's a 20-30 year advantage. Are 30s and 40s monster films worth watching at all?


 No.242

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>>241

None of them are scary by today’s standards, but neither are the Hammer films, or most modern horror films, riddled with jumpscares for that matter. They are a lot of fun though – the old style acting and accents, the early make-up and prosthetics, and of course, the Gothic atmosphere and the sets.

Frankenstein (1931), Bride of Frankenstein & Son of Frankenstein (1939) are very good. Son of Frankenstein stands out as the best in the series, possibly the best Universal monster film of all time; it is beautifully made with, bursting with Gothic atmosphere and sets inspired by German expressionism, and features great performances by Basil Rathbone (Sherlock Holmes) & Bela Lugosi (Dracula) – the guy who plays the one-armed police officer is also very good, and is arguably the true hero in the film. Lugosi’s character Ygor is great – probably his finest performance ever. IMHO his character would have been interesting and entertaining enough to get his own film.

I am probably in the minority here, but I prefer Dracula’s Daughter (1936) to the original – it is a direct sequel, catching up right where the first one ended. Gloria Holden’s Countess Marya Zaleska is a much more three dimensional, interesting and tragic character than Dracula, clearly tormented by what she’s become and done – she comes off as almost a drug addict, and this could be first film where vampirism is portrayed as a drug addiction.

The opening scene in Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (1943) is amazing – two graverobbers, carrying lanterns and a crowbar make their way through this old foggy graveyard and breaking into one of the mausoleums. That opening is worth checking out, though the rest of the film is a letdown and becomes your typical monster mash, ending with the obligatory scene of Frankenstein’s laboratory being destroyed.


 No.267

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>>189

Finished ‘Beyond the Black Rainbow’ earlier tonight, and I’m nowhere near close to make sense of what I saw. I’ve got a few ideas and theories, but it’ll probably take another viewing before I am able to to grasp all the ideas presented in the film.

I must say I was not expecting it to be this eerie and disturbing it was. IMHO was a more effective horror film than most modern horror films I have seen. I felt there was even a Lovecraftian/cosmic horror aspect to the film, with the drug-induced interdimensional travelling and subsequent character change – both physical and mental.

Beautifully shot with an extreme attention to the retro-futuristic 1980s aesthetic of the facility. Gorgeous and trippy visuals, a bright and colourful, maddening journey. The soundtrack was absolutely amazing – very atmospheric and fitting for this dark science-fiction horror film. I felt that the ending could have been better – it almost felt like it was delving into slasher territory…


 No.268

>>267

Damn, with that pitch I'm almost forced to move it to the top of my backlog.


 No.269

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>>268

Please do. I could really someone to try and interpret this film with right now…

I’ve got three or four possible (somewhat connected) theories about the whole thing, but wew lad. This was a nightmareish acid trip.

It is one damned good and impressive directorial and writing debut for sure – I don’t think I have seen a writer/director’s first film be this impressive before.


 No.301

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Watching right now. Is it me or does Barry Nyle look like Patrick Bateman here? Oddest thing is that the scene itself is similar, with the pills and the mirror.

It could be just a coincidence but it's a striking one if that's the case.


 No.304

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>>301

It certainly seems like it is an intentional homage.

Have you read ‘From Beyond’ by H. P. Lovecraft, or seen the Stuart Gordon adaptation from 1986? In it a scientist constructs a machine/device that vibrates at certain wavelengths that stimulate the pineal gland in the brain, allowing those close enough to experience the effects to see things that we can’t observe with our eyes normally – in the film the characters grow a physical ‘third eye’ on their forehead, not unlike the drawing/tattoo Barry had on his forehead as he underwent the journey in 1966.

I think something very similar to ‘From Beyond’ happened in ‘Beyond the Black Rainbow’, only instead of a machine causing vibrations, it was induced by the drugs and the sensory depravation. What Barry saw/experienced was real, but only he was able to ‘see’ it, since only he took the drugs and shut out all ‘distracting’ senses by submerging himself in the oil-like bath.

Even the VHS cover on the Aboria promotional site reminded me of the alternate ‘From Beyond’ poster: https://web.archive.org/web/20110415194740/http://www.arboria.org/

What did you make of ‘the Devil’s Teardrop’?


 No.305

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>>304

>It certainly seems like it is an intentional homage.

Strangely enough I haven't seen anything official that mentions it, but at the very least I think Michael Rogers took some mannerisms from Bale. Looking for said mannerisms to make a clip (there's a part that I find reminiscent of Bateman holding his urge to kill his secretary) I found this very Ryan Gosling-esque look too. His interaction with Margo when he says Helena has "an illicit object" reminded me of Nicholas Cage's madman from "Vampire's Kiss" when pressuring Alva (although much more restrained and subtle).

>Have you read ‘From Beyond’ by H. P. Lovecraft, or seen the Stuart Gordon adaptation from 1986? In it a scientist constructs a machine/device that vibrates at certain wavelengths that stimulate the pineal gland in the brain, allowing those close enough to experience the effects to see things that we can’t observe with our eyes normally – in the film the characters grow a physical ‘third eye’ on their forehead, not unlike the drawing/tattoo Barry had on his forehead as he underwent the journey in 1966.

I haven't seen either, but I think it's based on the hindu concept of the third eye, a concept that happens to be very popular among the new age groups. Yoga, acid and buddhist/hindu nonsense.

>I think something very similar to ‘From Beyond’ happened in ‘Beyond the Black Rainbow’, only instead of a machine causing vibrations, it was induced by the drugs and the sensory depravation. What Barry saw/experienced was real, but only he was able to ‘see’ it, since only he took the drugs and shut out all ‘distracting’ senses by submerging himself in the oil-like bath.

The way I see it, he had a false enlightement induced by the drugs. I'll elaborate in the actual review.

>Even the VHS cover on the Aboria promotional site reminded me of the alternate ‘From Beyond’ poster: https://web.archive.org/web/20110415194740/http://www.arboria.org/

Interesting. I read that it had lovecraftian themes too.

>What did you make of ‘the Devil’s Teardrop’?

The way I see it, just more delusion from his drugged experiences. In a way similar to the main character from Manhunter who wanted to achieve transcendence by ritually sacrificing people.


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>>163

>When she draws the symbol on the mirror she appears uncertain and doubting at first, she cares about Jesse (there might be some romantic feelings there as well), but she knows she can use her beauty to retain her own looks and beauty, so she decides to go through with the ritual

I think Ruby had decided on Jessie as soon as she determined that she was young, alone, probs a virgin etc (first meeting). She then shows her to the other two where they again want to find out if she's a virgin and it would seem deciding on whether to use her. Ruby develops attraction to Jessie to the point that she would rather sleep with her than kill her. But when Jessie rejects her advances her fate becomes sealed. That's how I interpret it. Yes it seems that Ruby is much older (she pretends the mansion isn't hers and she's only house sitting). The wild cat that gets into Jessie's room would either be Ruby (Big cat in the mansion) or somehow connected to her.


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>>308

Now that you point it out, it seems very likely that was the case. I think Gigi & Sarah are new to this though, in all likelihood it is their first time, which is why it ends in disaster, at least for Gigi.

I to think the wild cat/puma(?) was Ruby (or sent there by her) to watch over Jesse and make sure she was safe from the landlord (played by Keanu Reeves). Possibly to make sure he didn’t assault her and take her virginity, and/or because she genuinely cared for her, since this happened before she turned Ruby down.

Her attempt to kiss Jesse could be her checking if Jesse would give up her innocence easily, or maybe she just felt lonely and wanted someone to connect with. When that failed she turned to the dead woman at the morgue – someone who won’t refuse her, or that she won’t need to connect or fake it for. I didn’t make the connection between the puma and Ruby’s cat, but is undoubtedly to allude to a connection between the two.

How do you think NWR will connect ‘Valhalla Rising’ & ‘The Neon Demon’ to his upcoming crime show for Amazon, titled ‘Too Old To Die Young’? He said on Twitter that “The Neon Demon will appear as One Eye in Too Old To Die Young” – see >>156


 No.325

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>>305

I don’t think the physical changes Barry underwent can be explained any other way than the acid journey doing something to him – especially the way his eyes had changed. In addition to the contact lenses he also worse sunglasses when he was outside in the daytime – at least when we see him. The scene where he removes his contacts reminded me very much of the scene from the fake black & white alien autopsy short from the ’90s.

In the short story by HPL, the characters do not grow a third eye, but the scientist who’s made the device has undergone a dramatic physical change due to the effects of the machine or what he’s seen.

I was also reminded of the trailer to Can Evrenol’s ‘Baskin’ from 2015, which introduced the idea that hell is within all of us – Barry’s experience in the 1960s was similar to that – his New Age ideas became real to him under the influence of the drugs – both the bad and he good.

>The Devil’s Teardrop

‘The Devil’s Teardrop’ seemed to be a physical object though – a ceremonial dagger. Not sure what meaning Barry gave to it, but it seemed important to him.

On the Lovecraftian/cosmic horror in the film… we see images of space, in particular what looks to be the Helix Nebula – NGC 7293 (aka ‘the Eye of God/Sauron’). If I may, hopefully without sounding pretentious here, quote Nietzche’s famous line ‘When fighting monsters, make sure to not become a monster yourself. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.’

The eye symbolism might be a reference to this, and imply that the abyss gazed back into Barry and he becomes a monster in the end, despite starting out with good intentions.

I think the film also comments on the claims of some of these New Age cults, with the Arboria Institute’s claim of making humans happy, and being close to nature. In contrast the institute’s facility seems very cold and sterile. I think that they were attempting to heighten their mental powers by blocking out and dulling their senses. Elena’s telekinetic powers are controlled by the glowing pyramid, it holds her back – maybe, if the ‘drugs only’ theory is true, she was a normal human, and she was kept in check with sedatives/drugs. The scene of her resting on the meadow, finally outside, could be taken as her body detoxing from the drugs or the influence of the pyramid.

Here’s an extensive breakdown & interpretation I found of the film: http://www.ckollars.org/beyond-the-black-rainbow.html

Anyways, what do guys think of doing a book club type of thing in the future? We agree upon a film (or a TV show episode), watch it, and then analyse/discuss/talk shit about it here?


 No.330

>>325

>I don’t think the physical changes Barry underwent can be explained any other way than the acid journey doing something to him – especially the way his eyes had changed.

I think something similar to the dilation of pupils under the effects of certain drugs happened to him, but to the point of disfiguration.

> In addition to the contact lenses he also worse sunglasses when he was outside in the daytime – at least when we see him.

I hadn't picked up on this, interesting observation!

>The scene where he removes his contacts reminded me very much of the scene from the fake black & white alien autopsy short from the ’90s.

No idea, never saw it.

>In the short story by HPL, the characters do not grow a third eye, but the scientist who’s made the device has undergone a dramatic physical change due to the effects of the machine or what he’s seen.

Again I'm a pleb who didn't read that.

>I was also reminded of the trailer to Can Evrenol’s ‘Baskin’ from 2015, which introduced the idea that hell is within all of us – Barry’s experience in the 1960s was similar to that – his New Age ideas became real to him under the influence of the drugs – both the bad and he good.

I'll have to check that out.

>‘The Devil’s Teardrop’ seemed to be a physical object though – a ceremonial dagger. Not sure what meaning Barry gave to it, but it seemed important to him.

I interpreted it as if the dagger was the instrument to extract the devil's teardrop.

>On the Lovecraftian/cosmic horror in the film… we see images of space, in particular what looks to be the Helix Nebula – NGC 7293 (aka ‘the Eye of God/Sauron’). If I may, hopefully without sounding pretentious here, quote Nietzche’s famous line ‘When fighting monsters, make sure to not become a monster yourself. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.’

That sounds very close to what Barry described.

>The eye symbolism might be a reference to this, and imply that the abyss gazed back into Barry and he becomes a monster in the end, despite starting out with good intentions.

>I think the film also comments on the claims of some of these New Age cults, with the Arboria Institute’s claim of making humans happy, and being close to nature. In contrast the institute’s facility seems very cold and sterile.

I'll comment on this later (I'm going to sleep now), but I got some Brave New World vibes from the intro. Sorry for delaying my review/interpretation so much, I devoted myself to making the Emma driving OC.

Also Arboria aligns with the fact that the facility had plenty of trees. Maybe they started out seeking contact with nature and when it backfired turned into a psych hospital type of facility?

>Elena’s telekinetic powers are controlled by the glowing pyramid, it holds her back – maybe, if the ‘drugs only’ theory is true, she was a normal human, and she was kept in check with sedatives/drugs. The scene of her resting on the meadow, finally outside, could be taken as her body detoxing from the drugs or the influence of the pyramid.

The way I see it, the pyramid and Helena's powers were some of the few actually paranormal things happening.

I'll read that interpretation when I wake up too.

>Anyways, what do guys think of doing a book club type of thing in the future? We agree upon a film (or a TV show episode), watch it, and then analyse/discuss/talk shit about it here?

Wew, do you read minds or do we have a telepathic connection? I was thinking of the same thing yesterday.

It kills me that I'd love it if Emma could see what she has inspired but that this site would probably disgust her and creep her out.


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>>330

Do you think Barry’s physical changes/transformation could be explained solely by the drugs? When he took off his ‘appliances’ he started to remind me of the main antagonist from the miniseries ‘Invasion’ from 1997, starring Kim Cattrall – it looked like his irisies were ‘bleeding’ out into the rest of the eyes. Not even bath salts will do that you. Hopefully you’ll touch on this in your full-length review/analysis.

>Can Evrenol’s ‘Baskin’

I haven’t seen it either, but the trailer looks very interesting – I posted the trailer for another film by Evrenol in one of the Best Emma Generals, ‘Housewife’ from 2017 – that one looks extremely good too.

>Also Arboria aligns with the fact that the facility had plenty of trees. Maybe they started out seeking contact with nature and when it backfired turned into a psych hospital type of facility?

The Aboria name definitely alludes to an arboretum (plural: arboreta), but those outside botanical gardens of trees, right? The glimpses we got of the greenery at the Arboria Institute is all indoors, under a massive dome. I’m not sure what those gardens under this kind of dome structure is called.

When I started watching the film I imagined that there were extensive gardens on the facility grounds, aboreta and possibly flower gardens as well – it would have fit with the New Age hippie vibes of the intro. While the greenery under the dome is pleasant enough, it feels like false advertising on behalf of the Arboria Institute.

>Book club

You saw the WebM I uploaded over at /tv/ from S2E3 episode of I’m Alan Partridge, right? In the episode Alan meets Dan in a petrol gas station by chance and the two immediately hit it off – they share the same interests, the same likes and dislikes, the same type of humour, and they even finish each other’s sentences. Of course, Dan and his wife turn out to be ‘sex people’ and want to include Alan in their activities, but otherwise they reminded me of us two.

We should make a list of films and episodes we’d want to include in this book club thingy. Preferably a combination of genres, and films and episodes we haven’t seen yet.


 No.338

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>>334

>Do you think Barry’s physical changes/transformation could be explained solely by the drugs? When he took off his ‘appliances’ he started to remind me of the main antagonist from the miniseries ‘Invasion’ from 1997, starring Kim Cattrall – it looked like his irisies were ‘bleeding’ out into the rest of the eyes. Not even bath salts will do that you. Hopefully you’ll touch on this in your full-length review/analysis.

I think they used some super-potent drugs that caused that.

>The Aboria name definitely alludes to an arboretum (plural: arboreta), but those outside botanical gardens of trees, right? The glimpses we got of the greenery at the Arboria Institute is all indoors, under a massive dome. I’m not sure what those gardens under this kind of dome structure is called.

Maybe it's a loose reference, just meaning there's trees.

>When I started watching the film I imagined that there were extensive gardens on the facility grounds, aboreta and possibly flower gardens as well – it would have fit with the New Age hippie vibes of the intro. While the greenery under the dome is pleasant enough, it feels like false advertising on behalf of the Arboria Institute.

Hardly shocking, given the nature of their claims.

>You saw the WebM I uploaded over at /tv/ from S2E3 episode of I’m Alan Partridge, right? In the episode Alan meets Dan in a petrol gas station by chance and the two immediately hit it off – they share the same interests, the same likes and dislikes, the same type of humour, and they even finish each other’s sentences. Of course, Dan and his wife turn out to be ‘sex people’ and want to include Alan in their activities, but otherwise they reminded me of us two.

I only saw the one where he meets the wife, will check the thread again.

>We should make a list of films and episodes we’d want to include in this book club thingy. Preferably a combination of genres, and films and episodes we haven’t seen yet.

Definitely

Also, before I post my review (that I still have to write up), let me mention I think that Stranger Things ripped off Beyond the Black Rainbow. I searched them together and obviously other people found similarities too regrettably even redditors, it was the first result after the youtube videos and this video came up.

There's more similarities that the creator of the video omitted. If you've watched the first season of Stranger Things, there's some immersion baths for sensory deprivation, and the protagonist ends up in a similar world to Barry in his '60s experience, in the middle of nothing and then finding horrific things. And there's a woman who's supposedly her mother that's been destroyed by the drug experiences she had in the context of MK Ultra.


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After much anticipation, here is my review of the film. I hope to not disappoint.

First thing we see is the tape being played with Dr. Arboria advertising his facility. It gave me Brave New World vibes, with the desire to replace actual happiness with chemical contentment. The energy sculpting mumbo-jumbo and the promises of guaranteed happiness made me assume he'd be some kind of guru/charlatan in a similar vein to Wilhelm Reich and his "Orgone Accumulators", who held a Medicine degree and was also a psychoanalyst. The difference is that Reich believed his own theories and I came into the film expecting Arboria to not do so.

The next scene, we see Barry questioning Helena. One of the first thing that catched my attention is that he sort of looks like a doll, with porcelain-like skin and very stiff and weirdly styled hair. Almost like the Kraftwerk members in the Die Roboter video.

I also noticed the nurse's nose bleeding, something I didn't think to be really important but after watching her ultimate fate leads me to believe that Helena has used her powers against her, maybe resisting to being taken to Barry.

I observed similarities between Barry and Patrick Bateman, not only in their facial expressions but in their demeanor towards people and in some sequences that seem to evidence American Psycho influence. Particularly when he tells Rosemary he's "fine", with that repressed anger. And the sequence with the pills and the mirror, with him taking his wig off in a way that closely resembles the shower scene of American Psycho, also showing a sculpted, muscular body. And then he goes through his wardrobe carefully. And Patrick's secretary, Jean, finds a notebook in a drawer belonging to Patrick that is full of creepy drawings that freak her out. Although American Psycho wasn't cited by Cosmatos as an influence, to me it screams homage.

I also found parallels with Vampire's Kiss, starring Nicolas Cage. Just like Barry coming out of his high became a madman and viciously bit that woman's neck (was that the death of Helena's mother), causing a spray of blood, just like Peter did in VK due to his lack of actual fangs. The way Barry treats Margo after he finds the cigarette ashes also reminds me of how Peter treated his secretary Alva. There's also the identity question and while Helena is almost completely oblivious to her own identity, I think Barry has developed a perceived identity of himself that doesn't necessarily match reality. Much like Peter from Vampire's Kiss who thought he was a vampire but he was not.

There's a quote I found very telling, "You're nothing". He believes himself to be this superior being that has been enlightened, when all he did was seeing some weird things when drugged to the point of losing his grip of reality and getting disfigured and insane because his body and mind couldn't handle it. Reminds me of people who take DMT and believe themselves to have become wise from it. The claim it's a humbling experience, yet they become full of themselves. Classic example, Joe Rogan. The screencap is from a thread from a few days ago on halfchan's /sci/ ( http://archive.is/fvc3k ) that resonated with me when I watched the film too. Like they say there, if these substances put you in contact with some supernatural beings (and that's a big if), those beings are demons who give you the illusion of knowledge while not granting you any actual knowledge at all, leading you to your own perdition instead. As a side, vaguely related note when he takes off his "appliances" I first assumed he had extirpated his eyeballs in a fit of madness until it was revealed he had not.

The energy crystal. Arguably the only truly paranormal instrument in the hands of the institute. I assume it'd create vibrations in the radioelectric spectrum, affecting brainwaves (in a similar way to quartz crystals used as oscillators for clocks and other applications).

The patients in the institute - Were they former willing customers, turned insane by the drugs given to them? Or did the Arboria institute get mental patients as a regular asylum and tried to treat them with their techniques, creating otherworldly monsters instead of curing or palliating their illnesses?

My take on the Devil's Teardrop is that it wasn't the dagger itself, but the dagger allowed to extract it. Maybe it was some ritual involving using the dagger on Helena (perhaps after having intercourse with her) and her blood was the Devil's Teardrop.

On the phone call, I was surprised when he seemed to understand what the "data" was saying (now that I think about it, maybe I should reverse the audio in that section, perhaps it even includes the "stay on the lookout for Helena" part you talked about in another thread). And of course the disconnected cable could mean two things: it was all happening in Barry's mind, a theory that doesn't satisfy me in the least (much like the theory that states that Patrick Bateman didn't kill anyone in American Psycho) or that he had some kind of telepathic connection with the sentionauts. Or an even weirder one that just occurred to me as I wrote this, maybe the sounds came from the little sentionaut figure (if it was a talking figurine) and he thought it was the telephone, because he was under the influence of the drugs.

Does Dr. Arboria get killed by Barry or did I read too much into it? Is that what he was asking for when he asked Barry to assist him or was he merely asking to get drugged and Barry killed him because he felt like doing it? Was it revenge for the life changing experience he had? We also see Barry's skin look much different in this scene, unlike the doll-like skin he had in the beginning. Arboria himself seems to have become a sad, pathetic husk of him... self.


 No.340

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>>339

>I first assumed he had extirpated his eyeballs in a fit of madness

That would certainly have been an interesting turn of events. Something very similar happened in Paul W. S. Anderson’s ‘Event Horizon’ from 1997, where humans start experimenting with faster than light travel, and end up sending the spaceship to a hell-like dimension, and one of the characters, played by Sam Neil, pokes out his eyes as he goes mad, and wants to take the ship back, saying “where we’re going… we don’t need eyes to see.”

Barry’s journey is somewhat similar to what Sam Neil’s character went through – a good man with good intentions who goes mad from an experience of extreme horror, and becomes a homicidal maniac in the process.

I would love to hear what Joe Rogan would think of the film tbh. He seems like the type that would check in at the Arboria Institute to achieve happiness/enlightenment through hard drugs and oil baths and whatever ‘energy sculpting’ is.

>The energy crystal

While searching for some high res images of the film I came across the website of director Alex Craig, a friend of Panos Cosmatos. He helped him out with the shooting of the film, and you can find some behind the scenes photos on his website. Most interestingly though, is the filenames of the stills on the site – the still of the crystal/pyramid is ‘suppressor-unit’, implying that the device is used to control H/Eelena (and probably others as well). Is the crystal/pyramid a visual metaphor for the drugs they use to keep her docile and to control her powers?

URL: http://www.alexcraig.ca/content/Beyond-the-black-rainbow/1545

>The patients/sentionauts

I thought they were other volunteers who, like Barry, had gone on a similar acid trip journey, but come back in an even worse state. They became so frail and sickly that they had to wear protective suits to shield their hyper sensitivity from all outside influences. The word ‘sentinaut’ implies an inner journey – a journey of the senses – helped by the drugs and whatever other steps (‘energy sculpting’, &c.) went into it.

>The phone call

I’m not at all sure what to make of the phone call. Did Barry imagine getting orders/info, or was there someone on the other end instructing him? If your theory of the toy is true, it could be that he, in his drugged out/damaged mind, interpreted the sounds/pre-recorded voice messages of the electronic toy as important messages instructing/guiding him.

>Dr. Arboria

I’ve seen some theories regarding H/Elena’s parentage which could be part of the reason for Dr. Arboria’s current state, but I think he also had become disillusioned and maybe even had completely abandoned the lofty New Age ideas and ideals we saw in the opening. The optimistic and confident man we saw in the intro is certainly gone, and he appears apathetic and withdrawn.The New Age flower power attitude with an increased interest in Eastern religions and spiritualism had long since become passé and a thing of the past, replaced with the much more materialistic 1980s. Instead of achieving the goals and promises to make people happy of the intro, the cold war is still going on (referenced in the TV clip of Ronald Reagan), and the people at the Institute are as far from happiness as possible.

To me it appeared like Dr. Arboria had become immune to the drugs and they could no longer bring him up to the high he experienced earlier on when he believed in what the Institute was trying to accomplish. I also took it that it was vanity that he told Barry to inject him in the feet, and not his arms.

Another thing… Do you think it is implied that H/Elena is suffering due to her parents experimenting with drugs? Obviously having a mother who does hard drugs during pregnancy is going to risk affecting the mental and physical development and state of the child.


 No.342

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>>340

>Sam Neil, pokes out his eyes as he goes mad, and wants to take the ship back, saying “where we’re going… we don’t need eyes to see.”

Interesting twist on the Back to the Future classic quote about roads.

>Barry’s journey is somewhat similar to what Sam Neil’s character went through – a good man with good intentions who goes mad from an experience of extreme horror, and becomes a homicidal maniac in the process.

You're giving a good pitch for the film.

>I would love to hear what Joe Rogan would think of the film tbh. He seems like the type that would check in at the Arboria Institute to achieve happiness/enlightenment through hard drugs and oil baths and whatever ‘energy sculpting’ is.

LOL, I absolutely see it joining it. By the way, I read that Panos Cosmatos was specifically targeting boomers with his criticism of drug-induced experiences being considered some form of enlightenment.

>While searching for some high res images of the film I came across the website of director Alex Craig, a friend of Panos Cosmatos. He helped him out with the shooting of the film, and you can find some behind the scenes photos on his website. Most interestingly though, is the filenames of the stills on the site – the still of the crystal/pyramid is ‘suppressor-unit’, implying that the device is used to control H/Eelena (and probably others as well).

That's a captivating find! So the crystal is sort of a jammer, an attenuator, and can't work as a booster.

>Is the pyramid a visual metaphor for the drugs they use to keep her docile and to control her powers?

On this, I like to think it was a literal device with an area of effect. Coupled with the computer programs controlling the sentionauts and other devices it makes sense to me.

>I thought they were other volunteers who, like Barry, had gone on a similar acid trip journey, but come back in an even worse state. They became so frail and sickly that they had to wear protective suits to shield their hyper sensitivity from all outside influences. The word ‘sentionaut’ implies an inner journey – a journey of the senses – helped by the drugs and whatever other steps (‘energy sculpting’, &c.) went into it.

I hadn't thought of it that way, I went with a rather simplistic explanations where they were merely androids. Yours is a rather interesting interpretation of it and I think you are likely correct. And most importantly, I find your theory more appealing.

>I’m not at all sure what to make of the phone call. Did Barry imagine getting orders/info, or was there someone on the other end instructing him?

That's exactly the thing I'm not sure about. Maybe it was the Arboria Institute computer server, if there was a "someone"?

>If your theory of the toy is true, it could be that he, in his drugged out/damaged mind, interpreted the sounds/pre-recorded voice messages of the electronic toy as important messages instructing/guiding him.

Exactly what I was thinking when the idea of the talking toy came to my mind.

>I’ve seen some theories regarding H/Elena’s parentage which could be part of the reason for Dr. Arboria’s current state, but I think he also had become disillusioned and maybe even had completely abandoned the lofty New Age ideas and ideals we saw in the opening.

He certainly seems to value nature more than at the start and finds it to be of superlative beauty, although he already used natural imagery at the start. Maybe he's disillusioned but has become addicted to the drugs.

>The optimistic and confident man we saw in the intro is certainly gone, and he appears apathetic and withdrawn.The New Age flower power attitude with an increased interest in Eastern religions and spiritualism had long since become passé and a thing of the past, replaced with the much more materialistic 1980s.

Interesting insight. New Age and Eastern religions were certainly on the decline when yuppies replaced hippies and cocaine replaced weed.

>Instead of achieving the goals and promises to make people happy of the intro, the cold war is still going on (referenced in the TV clip of Ronald Reagan)

I had missed that, didn't read much into it in the moment but I think you're right.

>and the people at the Institute are as far from happiness as possible.

Indeed, it's like hell on Earth. With windows to the "heaven" that the free world is in comparison. Also it's no wonder they're unhappy when their food looks like that, I wouldn't feed that to my worst enemy.

>To me it appeared like Dr. Arboria had become immune to the drugs and they could no longer bring him up to the high he experienced earlier on when he believed in what the Institute was trying to accomplish.

They likely became a mere medicine for the withdrawal symptoms.

>I also took it that it was vanity that he told Barry to inject him in the feet, and not his arms.

I agree with that interpretation. He doesn't want to see the track marks and be reminded that his own arrogance led him down a path of self-destruction and decay.

What's your opinion on Barry's injection? Was it lethal?

>Do you think it is implied that H/Elena is suffering due to her parents experimenting with drugs? Obviously having a mother who does hard drugs during pregnancy is going to risk affecting the mental and physical development and state of the child.

I think her powers come from being exposed to the drugs since her fetal stage with great powers comes great mental unwellness. I also think the way she can connect to her father are the drugs administered to him. I'm unsure of whether Barry is aware of it or not. It could just be Dr. Arboria hallucinating about her, though.

Also I just looked up your Arboria dinner picture and found Alex Craig's website, with this picture in the gallery. It looks like he has some heavy makeup, if not a mask. I think it supports my thesis about the weird skin.

And continuing with the movie parallels, we have a homicidal, weird looking, bald guy in a cool jacket in the end. Doesn't the Driver wearing the mask remind you of this? Could Panos Cosmatos have influenced Nicolas Winding Refn? Maybe it was just a coincidence though, with so little time between them. Although we know that Refn films in chronological order.


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>>342

>You're giving a good pitch for the film.

You should give it a watch. It is probably the film that is closest to what Lovecraft had in mind with his cosmic horror – other than Carpenter’s ‘The Thing’ of course. With a few tweaks it would have been fantastic – the eerie atmosphere is brilliant and there are some good performances (Sean Pertwee & Laurence Fishburne). Unfortunately the studio cut it to bits in the editing room – a lot of the hellish scene were cut, and no one seen them since, so we are unlikely to ever see a director’s cut of the film. As much as I would have loved to see the cut parts restored, it would have been so much more effective if we only got to listen to the audio log of the hellish dimension, with some static to give is a vague idea of what is going on, and of course we see the aftermath of the journey.

‘The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our own frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.’

— ‘The Call of Cthulhu’ by H. P. Lovecraft – http://hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/cc.aspx

That paragraph is somewhat related to ‘Beyond the Black Rainbow’ as well I think, if one goes with the Lovecraftian/cosmic horror idea that the people at the Arboria Institute unlocked something in the human main through their dabbling with drugs and New Age spiritualism, that humans aren’t meant to understand. This unlocking of the mind drove the volunteers insane and turned them into homicidal wrecks who attempt to use drugs to deal with their problems. In Lovecraft’s short story ‘Dagon’, the unnamed protagonist has taken to opium in an attempt to dull his mind and forget about the horrors he has witnessed. I think there are other instances of drugs being used to cope with the terrors in some of his other stories too, as a last desperate and futile resort.

It just struck me that the ‘Devil’s Teardrop’ design is somewhat similar to the ceremonial daggers used by the Esoteric Order of Dagon in Stuart Gordon’s 2001 film ‘Dagon’ (an adaptation of Lovecraft’s ‘The Shadow Over Innsmouth’, not ‘Dagon’), with the gold colour and strange, almost otherworldly design. In it the Order appear to use them solely for ceremonial use, since earlier in the film we see them use other (surgical?) knives to skin one of their victims/offerings to their god. Later on we see that most of the cult members wear these faces to cover up, or as part of the ritual.

>The crystal/pyarmid/suppressor unit

I find it interesting that we see this white smoke emitting(?) from the device when it is activated though – also, where the hell did it come from?

>Sentionauts

The way I see it they had become soulless automatons, with no will of their own. Similar to the ‘zombies’ of Tahiti(?). They might as well be androids at this point.

>The Arboria dinner

I took it that Barry is incapable of eating normal food any longer. His wife tells him there is food in the fridge or something as he comes home, but he declines. It could just be that he just isn’t hungry, but perhaps he can’t eat anything with too much flavour any longer? All his senses are fried from the drug trip, and he can only eat bland, tasteless food.

>The toy figure/phone call

Imagine if all of the mayhem was caused by Barry was so drugged out of his mind that he thought the noises of a toy figure was some divine message giving him orders. wew.

>What's your opinion on Barry's injection? Was it lethal?

I’m not sure; I think I will have to watch the scene again – maybe even the entire film. My first reaction was that he just bit his teeth and gave Dr. Arboria more drugs so he could go back to his drug-induced dreamworld and escape from the horrible reality of the Institute.

Not sure what happens in the book, but we know Refn/Gosling have confirmed that Driver thinks he is a werewolf, so he is trying to cover up in case he is caught watching. It sounds similar to the cultists who wear the human faces in Stuart Gordon’s ‘Dagon’ to cover up their looks due to their not 100% ancestry. ‘The Shadow Over Innsmouth’ is a nice story to start with btw, it also showcases some of Lovecraft’s common themes; a healthy dislike of foreigners, foreign religions taking over and interracial (or in this case interspecies) mixing.


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>>346

>the Lovecraftian/cosmic horror idea that the people at the Arboria Institute unlocked something in the human main through their dabbling with drugs and New Age spiritualism, that humans aren’t meant to understand. This unlocking of the mind drove the volunteers insane and turned them into homicidal wrecks who attempt to use drugs to deal with their problems.

Sounds very plausible, I certainly agree with it. And Helena was likely born with a different "wiring" in her brain, from being exposed to psychedelics since the earliest stages of her development.

>It just struck me that the ‘Devil’s Teardrop’ design is somewhat similar to the ceremonial daggers used by the Esoteric Order of Dagon

Very interesting, I'll look into it.

>an adaptation of Lovecraft’s ‘The Shadow Over Innsmouth’, not ‘Dagon’

Heh, funny.

>I find it interesting that we see this white smoke emitting(?) from the device when it is activated though

I thought it looked cool but didn't give it much thought beyond that. Maybe there was some sublimation going on?

>where the hell did it come from?

I'm just assumed they built it from some kind of weird research.

>All his senses are fried from the drug trip, and he can only eat bland, tasteless food.

Perhaps he gets hyperstimulated if he tastes something?

>Imagine if all of the mayhem was caused by Barry was so drugged out of his mind that he thought the noises of a toy figure was some divine message giving him orders. wew.

On that, I read on the link you posted above from ckollars.org that the sentionaut warned him about Margo finding his notebook and about the risk of Helena escaping. I tried playing it backwards but it wasn't clear enough for me so I didn't post it. I guess I'll try to post it again later. They also ask about some means of tracking Helena, and it's seen that they inject her with a device in the neck (when I watched the movie I thought the red glow was just from some weird drug, it never occurred to me that it was a tracker under her skin. I assumed Barry was tracking her using something implanted to her during her childhood when I watched it.

>I’m not sure; I think I will have to watch the scene again – maybe even the entire film. My first reaction was that he just bit his teeth and gave Dr. Arboria more drugs so he could go back to his drug-induced dreamworld and escape from the horrible reality of the Institute.

Again in the link you posted, they interpreted that Barry gave Arboria an overdose and killed him and that's what allowed Helena to escape somehow. Although it seemed to me that he was given a lethal injection,I never associated it with Helena's escape.

>Not sure what happens in the book, but we know Refn/Gosling have confirmed that Driver thinks he is a werewolf, so he is trying to cover up in case he is caught watching. It sounds similar to the cultists who wear the human faces in Stuart Gordon’s ‘Dagon’ to cover up their looks due to their not 100% ancestry. ‘The Shadow Over Innsmouth’ is a nice story to start with btw, it also showcases some of Lovecraft’s common themes; a healthy dislike of foreigners, foreign religions taking over and interracial (or in this case interspecies) mixing.

I'll make sure to check it out.


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>>349

>Sounds very plausible, I certainly agree with it. And Helena was likely born with a different "wiring" in her brain, from being exposed to psychedelics since the earliest stages of her development.

Initially I took her telekinetic powers as a clue that the acid-induced journey and experiments with drugs to mean that there was something more going on. If we accept that she has some kind of powers, wouldn’t that imply that the Institute was onto something? If they really wanted to bring people happiness through their methods, maybe they became disillusioned when that failed and the results were misery and a young girl with uncontrollable powers with the possibility for destruction and murder. Maybe this is the reason why Dr. Arboria appears to have abandoned his goals, and become a sad, frail recluse?

>I thought it looked cool but didn't give it much thought beyond that. Maybe there was some sublimation going on?

It felt like a visual clue that the suppressor unit emits a drug that sedates her, keeping her from using her powers.

Also, it seems weird that these guys who run the facility would have access to/been able to build something so advanced. Did they manage to construct it because they received some blueprints from their drug trips? Also, I assume the Institute is funded by Dr. Arboria’s book sales? There doesn’t seem to be any patients/guests at the place any longer, so unless they have some shady backers keeping the place open, it must be funded by Dr. Arboria, right?

>They also ask about some means of tracking Helena, and it's seen that they inject her with a device in the neck (when I watched the movie I thought the red glow was just from some weird drug, it never occurred to me that it was a tracker under her skin. I assumed Barry was tracking her using something implanted to her during her childhood when I watched it.

Nice catch! I didn’t think of that, but that makes perfect sense.

Also, posting a WebM of the scene in question that some helpful Anon over at /tv/ posted.

>Again in the link you posted, they interpreted that Barry gave Arboria an overdose and killed him and that's what allowed Helena to escape somehow. Although it seemed to me that he was given a lethal injection,I never associated it with Helena's escape.

I’m not convinced Barry did kill him; I think he resents him, maybe even hates him for what’s happened though. If he did give him a lethal injection it could have been meant as a coup de grâce. Or maybe Barry wanted him out of the way in case Dr. Arboria found out what he’s been up to – ie Margo talking about what she found in Barry’s notes.

I read somewhere (MovieChat’s archived IMDb forum), that when Margo goes through Barry’s notes, the quick flashes depict very sexual imagery – genitals in particular. If I’m not mistaken Barry had also drawn genitals in his notes, in addition to some sketches of people in spacesuits…

Could you take some stills of Barry’s notes? There might be clues that we have overlooked there.

What did you think of the quote at the end?

<“No matter where you go… there you are.”

<— B. Banzai

Like the post credit scene (and the entire film) it could be interpreted a couple of different ways.


 No.355

>>350

I can't answer in detail right now but check this article out, found it by accident searching for a pic of Barry I could use as a reaction face.

http://archive.is/R4k5e


 No.356

File: 87733d8b8ed0dca⋯.jpg (484.45 KB, 2400x3600, 2:3, 46d885c9-b691-4879-af5a-37….jpg)

>>355

Very nice find; brilliant and interesting article! The best take and critique of the film I have read, and beautifully written as well. A definite must-read for those who have seen the film.

I think the track titles on the unofficial soundtrack, which takes the audio directly from the film, are quite interesting:

#9 – Inhibitor – this obviously refers to the suppressor unit (crystal/pyramid), and plays when Barry uses it to sedate Elena.

#12 – The Sleep of Reason

#13 –

#14 – … produces Monsters – these three short tracks play during the preparation for Barry’s journey, and should be obvious enough; their foolish attempt to seek happiness and/or divine contact/enlightenment through drugs and New Age spiritualism, ignoring all that is known about drugs and their effects on the mind, leads to mental breakdowns, death and destruction down the road.

As a sidenote, earlier today (actually yesterday, since it is way past midnight) I came across a guy who had dressed as Barry for Halloween when searching for stills of the notes Margo discovers.

Also, a short but interesting interview with director Panos:

Eye For Film: Panos Cosmatos talks about Beyond The Black Rainbow: http://archive.is/mdwz8


 No.357

File: d9c4bbd0d53bb83⋯.webm (5.03 MB, 980x348, 245:87, BTBR - Notepad.webm)

File: 8bdbe85c1edcc70⋯.gif (3.78 MB, 490x174, 245:87, BTBR notepad.gif)

>>356

I have a gif of the notebook. Oh and a webm.


 No.358

File: 3b7b4cd1bf675c3⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 5.58 MB, 2940x9396, 245:783, Barrys_notes.jpg)

>>357

Lovely! I made a collage of the video – hopefully I managed to get all of the images, and in the correct order…

There is a lot of sexual imagery here, both as drawings, images from what I assume are Barry’s old Rodox mags, and in his notes – most of it extremely nonsensical and random. There is a BDSM/domination theme going on as well. The drawing of the naked and bound woman has a diamond-shaped symbol on the belt, similar to the one on the box containing Barry’s ceremonial dagger (‘the Devil’s Teardrop’)?

There is one (or two) drawings that could be of the suit of the sentinauts. One of the early images depict what looks like an astronaut with an air tube, but I’m also getting some vibes of a child in the womb from it, which doesn’t seem too farfetched given the focus on sexual imagery and text, including the words ‘puberty’, ‘spermy’ & ‘macho’ being highlighted in particular.

NSFW WARNING


 No.360

File: 97228524d71f3fc⋯.jpg (735.27 KB, 1397x2951, 1397:2951, Enzo Nistri’s poster for C….jpg)

File: f9a94ffd406fb4d⋯.mp4 (7.02 MB, 480x360, 4:3, Magnetic Sound System - Co….mp4)

Geno Cuddy has released his restored version of Luigi Cozzi’s Godzilla, better known as Cozzilla!

Cuddy has restored a copy of the original 35mm print, and it is probably the best version of ‘Cozzilla’ we are likely to get ever – unless Toho comes around and gives us an official HD release. Sadly there are no subtitles and the audio is Italian. The only other version you can find online is the battered old VHS rip which is borderline unwatchable, though it has hardcoded English subtitles.

Clips from the restored version: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=N2XlRtEnkew

Full, restored version of the film: https://archive.org/details/CozzillaRestoredGenoCuddy

Talking COZZILLA: An Interview with Italian GODZILLA Director Luigi Cozzi « SciFi Japan: http://archive.is/tiri

The Psychedelic Version of Godzilla You've Never Seen - Deja View: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=ZoJd5oouZ3s

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 No.364

File: eb3c1fe55634d18⋯.jpg (6.32 MB, 8268x11811, 2756:3937, mandy-poster.jpg)

<Bloody Sundance standout Mandy has been acquired by RLJE Films for US distribution and will begin its theatrical run this summer.

<Writer/director Panos Cosmatos’ second feature film, Mandy stars Nicolas Cage, Andrea Riseborough (Birdman, Oblivion), and Linus Roache (“Homeland,” “Law & Order”) in a tale of a family shattered by a violent cult.

<“The best reviewed movie at Sundance is also one of Cage’s most extraordinary performances, reinvigorating our love and appreciation of him,” stated Mark Ward, Chief Acquisitions Officer at RLJE Films. The partnership was negotiated by Ward and XYZ Films, one of the producers of the movie.

http://www.frightday.com/mandy-finds-distribution-with-rlje-films/

[Sundance Interview] 'Mandy' Director Panos Cosmatos Is Done With 1983 Movies - Bloody Disgusting: http://archive.is/E3Tra

Panos Cosmatos' Mandy | 2018 Sundance Film Festival World Premiere Screening: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=tuDWGKAipoQ

Nicolas Cage Talks About Beyond The Black Rainbow, New Film Mandy And "Cage Rage": https://hooktube.com/watch?v=ujkhO3miafo


 No.365

File: b20a9fdeaf62106⋯.webm (863.87 KB, 626x480, 313:240, don't want to miss it.webm)

>>360

Thanks, will check this out. The music is nice.

>>364

Oooooooh exciting.


 No.366

File: a69b4cd88d5185d⋯.png (9.92 KB, 845x407, 845:407, Archive NO.PNG)

>>360

>Full, restored version of the film


 No.367

>>366

Works just fine for me. Try checking the URL and see if it is correct - if there is anything after "Cuddy" at the end of it, delete that.

Also, I highly recommend giving the .mkv in the torrent a watch instead of streaming it on the site.


 No.368

>>367

I don't know why but it just gives me the same 'not found' page. Url is exact.


 No.369

File: 16d0d70de2fb3de⋯.jpg (356.33 KB, 708x1024, 177:256, 14876387189_8565f6ae14_b.jpg)

>>368

No problem with the URL at all here. I doubt The Internet Archive blocks IPs from certain countries, so I have no idea what is wrong. I editied the post earlier because the URL was faulty, but it works just fine for me now.

All is not lost though: http://btdb.to/torrent/X3W1EX2A4jFwD06mDwgdiNXbzYxb98I5D7.html


 No.370

File: 0c03d89c677c9fe⋯.webm (2.95 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, feels bad man.webm)

>>369

>All is not lost though

>no sources found

It would seem the universe is against me. The archive thing is strange. Never had it do that before.


 No.371

File: 07840bd78849316⋯.png (737.14 KB, 1080x1080, 1:1, Untitled.png)

>>370

That is weird; looks like the gods are conspiring against you. It works just fine for me now, and I checked the Archive page on my phone yesterday, and that worked too. If you somehow can get it to work, the Internet Archive version uses web seeds as well as regular seeders, so you'll get fantastic DL speeds.


 No.372

File: 1f0fdf7f925fdb8⋯.webm (156.28 KB, 500x264, 125:66, glitch.webm)

>>371

Yay the gods changed their minds. I tried the same archive link again for shits and giggles and it worked! I hope archive has stopped playing with me now.


 No.377

File: 96c06c0df21dc78⋯.jpg (141.39 KB, 1920x1040, 24:13, Dark Star (1974) – Pinback….jpg)

File: cc4acd030ea8d67⋯.png (493.63 KB, 720x358, 360:179, Beyond the Black Rainbow (….png)

Someone online pointed out that the elevator shaft scene in ‘Beyond the Black Rainbow’ is a homage to John Carpenter’s student film (written by & starring Dan O’Bannon) ‘Dark Star’ from 1974. In one scene O’Bannon’s character Pinback is chasing a beach ball-shaped alien and gets stuck in the elevator shaft of the space ship. In Danny Boyle’s ‘Sunshine’ from 2007, there is a character named Pinback as a homage to O’Bannon’s character, who also goes mad – though Pinback in ‘Sunshine’ becomes a homicidal madman

In one interview Panos told about his inspiration for the 1966/acid trip scene, saying he was inspired by E. Elias Merhige’s experimental horror film ‘Begotten’ from 1990. ‘Begotten’ was shot in black & white and is highly stylised, similar to the parts that take place at the Arboria Institute before and after Barry’s ‘journey’.

‘Begotten’ was shot in black & white, and has some really disturbing visuals. It opens with God disembowelling himself and dying. There is also a shot where we only see one of God’s eyes – a mirror of the shot where Barry has one eyed covered in bandages after his fateful acid trip? I think it would have been interesting if Cosmatos had gone even further in his homage to ‘Begotten’, with the amped-up contrasts, the gory death, the 16mm film grain and the noises/sound imperfections… I felt like it was because Barry’s memory of the past is hazy and unclear; his recollection of the acid trip, isn’t a clear, fixed memory, but rather an attempt to try and convey his feeling of the experience; the way his mind interpreted the experience, and that it would be slightly different each time he tried to recall the memory/experience.

The blood squirting as Barry bites Anna’s neck is in a similar fashion to the aforementioned disembowelling scene. And, upon rewatching the scene I also remembered that it looked like Dr. Arboria also lowered baby Elana into the same black oil bath. Also, when seeing the bright & colourful I was struck by how much the swirling clouds or smoke reminded me of the images of the storms of Jupiter – the dark spot on Jupiter being similar to the circular oil bath Barry climbs out of.

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 No.378

>>377

Brilliant post. I feel like I need to watch Dark Star and Sunshine now.

I remember reading that the original flashback had much clearer images that were also more disturbing, but they confused the audience. I don't remember where I read that though.


 No.379

File: 5718ceafd7f37fe⋯.webm (6.97 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Sunshine.webm)

>>378

I am glad Cosmatos decided to go for something more stylistic for that scene, though something a bit less drastic could have worked too – making reality/the Arboria Institute feel very sterile, cold, bright and harsh after the lush, vivid colours of the acid trip. Seeing the original take would have been nice too though, and I bet most who viewed the films were confused as fuck when the credits started rolling.

I watched ‘Dark Star’ (the ‘Unrated Edition’) last night just after making that post. I haven’t seen the shorter ‘Special Edition Version’ that’s also on the DVD though. The UE goes on a little bit in some scenes, and you’ll have to be a little forgiving considering it is a student film shot on a very low budget. That said, some of the visuals are beautiful to look at, and I’d take the practical effects in this film over any blockbuster with CGI.

‘Sunshine’ is a very good film IMHO, and the soundtrack is absolutely amazing and on par with the soundtrack of ‘Moon’. There are some big names in it too: Chris Evans, Cillian Murphy & Michelle Yeoh (who was one of the Bond-girls in ‘Tomorrow Never Dies’, and starred in ‘Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon’ & ‘Silver Hawk’).


 No.383

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>379

Wasn't a fan of the film but loved the soundtrack to Sunshine, particularly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXVzg2PiZw. I first saw Michelle Yeoh in Police Story 3 (with Jackie Chan). Been in love with her ever since.

excuse the filthy dubbing of this webm


 No.384

File: 5f08414ec521fcd⋯.webm (7.81 MB, 722x312, 361:156, Police Story 3 - Motorcyc….webm)

>>383

Sorry, messed up the post. Here is the webm.


 No.385

>>379

>Seeing the original take would have been nice too though, and I bet most who viewed the films were confused as fuck when the credits started rolling.

I definitely wish I had seen it.

>The UE goes on a little bit in some scenes

Likely not a problem, I enjoy slow burns. For example, I didn't take issue with Apocalypse Now Redux, a version that sends many into a meltdown about pacing and gets them screeching about the plantation scene.

>and you’ll have to be a little forgiving considering it is a student film shot on a very low budget.

Won't be a problem I think.

Cillian Murphy is a big draw. Chris Evans is almost a turnoff as I barely know him as a meme man from Marvel flicks, but I haven't seen him act so I'll reserve judgement for now. As for Michelle Yeoh I haven't seen any of those movies, or maybe I saw Tomorrow Never Dies but don't remember it. I certainly played the PlayStation game back in the day with a friend who had one and I remember watching Goldeneye.

>>383

>>384

webmanon is that you? Also is that Michelle Yeoh in the WebM? Looks like a fun action film and she's obviously a competent action actress.


 No.389

>>385

>webmanon is that you?

Yep. Yes that's Michelle. Iirc she broke her leg or ankle doing that motorcycle stunt.


 No.393

File: 060d20894d52f1e⋯.jpg (58.72 KB, 1016x554, 508:277, yes-madam.jpg)

>>383

>>384

>>389

wew Nice to see that level of dedication! Michelle is one of the few female stars to do her own stunts. I’m gonna check ‘Yes, Madam’ from 1985 – a Hong Kong action film, where she stars along side Cynthia Rothrock. Cynthia is another one who does her own stunts, and her combat skills are legendary. A real shame she never got a real breakthrough – she could have become a major female action hero star.


 No.394

>>393

Oh I will check that one out as well. I only became aware of Cynthia when an anon posted some webms of her at halfchan a while ago. Still haven't watched any of her films. This one can my introduction.


 No.395

>>393

My gosh she looks an awful lot like Katie Hopkins in that picture.


 No.398

File: a77712295e7400c⋯.jpg (35.84 KB, 340x501, 340:501, 63da2a3e43c6e74e082dca40c1….jpg)

File: b16924f8a87a73e⋯.png (359.77 KB, 550x310, 55:31, 14.png)

File: 70602d0be0caa05⋯.jpg (39.48 KB, 497x497, 1:1, michelle yeoh yes madam 19….jpg)

File: 92993408ecff6c2⋯.png (330 KB, 656x364, 164:91, ym_still_04.png)

File: 2a8f8c331bd214b⋯.gif (686.03 KB, 245x135, 49:27, MY.gif)

>>394

I have only seen her in ‘Expendabelles 3.0’ (aka ‘Mercenaries’) from 2014 so far, and she isn’t in it for long. For an Aslyum film it was surprisingly decent I thought. The budget is low, but you have all these female action stars all in one film: Brigitte Nielsen, Vivica A. Fox, Zoë Bell, Kristanna Loken, Nicole Bilderback & Cynthia Rothrock. Zoë Bell is very good, and Birgitte Nielsen looks like she has fun as the villainess.

I really want to see Cynthia & Michelle in their prime though, so I’ll have to check out ‘Yes, Madam’ and ‘Police Story 3’.

>>395

>Katie Hopkins

Isn’t she the British TV persona who spoke out against the immigration policies and got called a racist?


 No.400

>>398

Brigitte Nielsen was great in Cobra (funny enough, directed by George P. Cosmatos, Panos Cosmatos' dad)

And Zoë Bell was great in Death Proof. Can't say much about the rest because I'm not familiar enough with them.

Expendabelles is obviously a play on Expendables, and it's funny how everything connects because Nielsen was not only in Cobra but also in Rocky IV and she was married to Stallone. Probably worth a watch, even though it's marketed as a "mockbuster" and got terrible reviews from critics.


 No.403

>>398

>>400

It looks like a fun junk food movie.

>Isn’t she the British TV persona who spoke out against the immigration policies and got called a racist?

Yes, she drives people absolutely nuts.


 No.404

File: c34636278b2791c⋯.mp4 (15.98 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Expendabelles 3.0 (2014) –….mp4)

>>400

>>403

>Probably worth a watch, even though it's marketed as a "mockbuster" and got terrible reviews from critics.

>It looks like a fun junk food movie.

Critics were hardly going to give it rave reviews, but it is fun for what it is; It doesn’t take itself too seriously, and the dialogue is just the right amount of cheese.

>Yes, she drives people absolutely nuts.

Bless her. We desperately need more women like that.


 No.405

>>404

Oh this looks like fun. Zoe Bell looks different. I wonder if she's had work done or it's just aging and the blonder hair.

>Bless her. We desperately need more women like that.

She gives zero fucks. Some of her responses to hate on Twitter are hilarious.


 No.407

>>404

The voice of the CIA gal is turning me off the movie, it's like when they lift the pitch of Sam Hyde's voice when he plays a cop but unironically.


 No.409

File: 713031f4ca2a2be⋯.mp4 (15.58 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Expendabelles 3.0 (2014) –….mp4)

>>407

Cynthia Rothrock? If so, you will be pleased to know she is only in a few scenes.

>>405

>Zoë Bell looks different. I wonder if she’s had work done or it’s just ageing and the blonder hair.

Cynthia Rothrock looks pretty rough too sadly. Time is a harsh mistress.

When they make an ‘official’, big-budget ‘Expendabelles’ I’d love to see Milla Jovovich, Uma Thurman, Michelle Yeoh & Linda Hamilton (though she is looking more than a bit rough nowadays ;_;)

I think this Asylum mockbuster balanced the humour/action tropes and witty dialogue very nicely, and it has a certain charm that I doubt a major studio blockbuster will manage to replicate, especially in the current year.

Anyone else getting some serious Roman Bellic vibes from their driver?


 No.415

>>409

>Cynthia Rothrock? If so, you will be pleased to know she is only in a few scenes.

Exactly. Glad to know.

>Cynthia Rothrock looks pretty rough too sadly. Time is a harsh mistress.

>too

I dig Zoe's look tbh (not the one who asked, BO here).


 No.416

>>415

>I dig Zoe's look tbh

Yeah she looks good, just different.


 No.423

File: 2f53317d8d2e91a⋯.jpg (34.46 KB, 500x375, 4:3, Fight to win.jpg)

If I wanted to see some Cynthia kino of her in her prime, what should I see?


 No.425

>Like Me – trailer: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=fl6asDDdTDw

Am I the only one on the board who hasn't watched it yet?

If not, we could designate it as the next movie for the movie club thing.


 No.427

File: 92d6acb64bcc814⋯.jpg (371.1 KB, 1200x1801, 1200:1801, LIKE_ME_Poster_1200_1801_8….jpg)

File: cf228759b6124c0⋯.jpg (1010.68 KB, 2000x2625, 16:21, Like_Me_(2017).jpg)

>>425

Hear, hear! Seconding that. I’ve wanted to see it ever since I saw the trailer for it last year. Looks like a perfect film to kick off (or rather, continue) this movie club.


 No.428

>>425

>>427

Ooooh looks interesting. I'm up for it.


 No.429

File: a333561d9cae5a2⋯.mp4 (14.66 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, LIKE ME _ SXSW Teaser Trai….mp4)

So, when are we doing this?


 No.431

>>429

Working on getting a copy right now.


 No.433

>>428

>>427

Great!

>>431

Same. I think we should set some deadline at which we're all expected to have watched it.


 No.435

>>433

Download finished, but the quality is sub-par. I'll try to find a better version.


 No.436

Found a promising version, at least the bitrate is decent. I hope it's in English. Look up "KOSHARA".


 No.438

File: 52e98fdd15c556b⋯.jpg (92.16 KB, 950x679, 950:679, like-me-F69617.jpg)

>>436

I just watched it and my head is full of fuck.


 No.443

>>436

It was a Russian dub, damn.

>>438

Sounds like it's good. Would you PM the filename for your download please?


 No.448

>>433

I'm going to watch it in a minute.


 No.449

File: 38632114618fc8f⋯.gif (800.27 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 1488068910988.gif)

>>448

Well, what a wild ride that was. I felt like I was holding my breath the entire film. I feel like I should hate it but I fucking loved it. Realised in the credits that it was at least partially funded through Indigogo. Impressed. Some just beautiful shots.


 No.453

File: baf6f3b5f119279⋯.jpg (132.65 KB, 1800x973, 1800:973, like-me-2.jpg)

>>449

Same here, though I really took a liking to Kiya after the first scene, and she laughs and breathes a sigh of relief after the rush of the fake robbery, which is followed by her reacting to other people reacting to her video on social media. I thought the film was over in a flash almost – at no point did it feel like it was dragging; I was entertained all the way though. I think my favourite scene was Kiya and the elderly homeless guy sitting in the diner and stuffing themselves. That was a beautiful scene. And, like you said, this film being the result of crowdfunding makes it all the more impressive.

I think the film’s title can be taken in two ways – it references social media likes (Kiya does what she does for the rush, but also for the ‘likes’ and approval of others). I think it also references her search for someone to connect to, find someone who is like her (she does look for human contact in the strangest places, though, which is quite interesting). A lot of millennials are feeling disenfranchised and lost and rootless in the digital age, and do the dumbest and most dangerous things to get likes and become Internet famous.

Now, put on your tinfoil hats, anons… What did you guys think of the scene where she watches a film talking about aliens? I thought Kiya was staring at the snow on the TV screens all the time, and surrounding herself with them, as if she is seeing/hearing something we don’t. There is also the scene with Kiya in the restroom, looking at her reflection, and inspecting her eye…

I am not sure what to make of the whole ending sequence, it felt strangely like a very dark comedy, like in NWR’s ‘The Neon Demon’, with the ‘Are we having a party? scene). She kills/gets rid of the most negative voice, yet her reaction afterward is ambivalent. She sits huddled up on the beach, but the scene is tranquil and everything fades to white as the sun rises.


 No.489

File: 82dc337d6098aa5⋯.webm (2.02 MB, 1000x542, 500:271, The Craft - Mirror.webm)

>>453

>I think the film’s title can be taken in two ways

Yes, I initially was taking it to mean '[Someone] Like Me' and only later on in the film did I see the other meaning '[Please] Like Me'.

>There is also the scene with Kiya in the restroom, looking at her reflection, and inspecting her eye…

This is when I started saying "wtf?" and paying closer attention. It reminded me of that scene in The Craft. How much of what we are seeing is real within their cinematic universe and how much hallucinatory?

>What did you guys think of the scene where she watches a film talking about aliens?

Could it be as simple as referencing alienation? This would add another dimension to your point about disenfranchised youth.

>She kills/gets rid of the most negative voice, yet her reaction afterward is ambivalent.

Also the one who seemed most to want to connect with her.

I definitely think I'll be watching this one again.


 No.491

HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.

>>489

>This is when I started saying "wtf?" and paying closer attention. It reminded me of that scene in The Craft. How much of what we are seeing is real within their cinematic universe and how much hallucinatory?

I was almost expecting there to be a clue, similar to the scene you mentioned in ‘The Craft’ (great film btw, we ought to bring it up on /sapphic/), and that there would be something about her reflection that would be different. It could also be a reference to the saying that the eyes are the windows of the soul. Maybe she is wondering what is lurking behind those eyes herself – who she is and what she is capable/how far she is willing to go. Or is like you said, a hint that what we are seeing may not be real, but what she sees or wants to see.

>Could it be as simple as referencing alienation? This would add another dimension to your point about disenfranchised youth.

Quite possibly. That idea struck me too. I think the film(?) she listens to mentioned aliens communicating with us, and Kiya seems to have problems communicating with others normally – she probably feels very alien and alone, and her increasingly more outrageous and brutal videos on social media is her trying to connect with others. She seemed to be doing just fine talking to the kid at the gas station, but then she wanted to show her what she kept in her trunk – similarly, when she is talking to Marshall in the forest, reading the comments on the puke video, she seems to be doing OK, but then she takes a darker turn when she tells him that many want to see her shoot him.

What did you make of the CRT TVs she surrounds herself with? She seemed utterly fascinated by the SNOW on the screen.

The psychedelic/acid eel scene reminded of the Stuart Gordon adaptation of ‘From Beyond’ – the neon colours, the hostile eel-creature and the bleeding wound. That scene (in ‘Like Me’) nearly cracked me up – it was so weird and out there, yet serious, because he is badly wounded.

>Also the one who seemed most to want to connect with her.

I was certain we would learn something more about Burt and his connection to her – that they knew each other IRL, or even that they were related. It felt like she wanted him to like her, and she kept upping the ante with her videos to get a reaction/approval from him, but the only reaction she got from him was scorn and dismissal. Perhaps that is what the title is referring to – for him to like her? Maybe not in a romantic sense, but in a friendly way.


 No.493

>>491

>The psychedelic/acid eel scene reminded of the Stuart Gordon adaptation of ‘From Beyond’

I thought I had seen From Beyond but obviously not as I don't remember any of that. Added to my list. Can definitely see the resemblance.

I felt like the mirror scene also was used as an atmospheric catalyst if that makes sense. Much like the cafe dumpster nightmare dream man in Mulholland Drive, or Kubrick's 'impossible room' in the Shining. Scenes that set the tone or put you slightly off ease for the rest of the film.


 No.494

>>491

>What did you make of the CRT TVs she surrounds herself with? She seemed utterly fascinated by the SNOW on the screen.

<forgot to respond to this

I don't know what to think of that yet. Not sure. What do you think?


 No.497

File: 4a68c7d6af6da29⋯.webm (5.59 MB, 720x390, 24:13, Like Me (2017) – Reflecti….webm)

>>493

>Added to my list.

It is easily Stuart Gordon’s most visually stunning Lovecraft adaptation, though he doesn’t grasp Lovecraft’s cosmic horror, and settles for body horror instead. Also, as in all of Gordon’s adaptations there is sex and nudity – nothing of the sort is in the original story, but I guess sex sells.

>I felt like the mirror scene also was used as an atmospheric catalyst

I can agree with that. It felt like a point where it went from her doing filming her shenanigans (if you can call a fake robbery that), to something else. Looking at the scene again, I take it she used having to use the toilet to pee as an excuse (same as Elin in ‘Fucking Åmål’ actually). Her mood is completely different, and it also looks like she moves faster than her reflection.

>I don't know what to think of that yet. Not sure. What do you think?

I’m not sure, it could be just a stylistic choice by the director, but I don’t think that is the case. She seems too fascinated with old TVs for it to be the case IMHO. I think the only time she is watching something on the TV other than the snow is when she sees the film/program about aliens.

Is it her clinging to something from the past? Analogue TVs are a relic of the past, and snow is history now too. Is she simply autistic and finds some enjoyment out of watching the snow and listening to the static? She also used an older camera – shooting on VHS? So she is clearly tech savvy enough to transfer that to digital.

We never get to know Kiya, at least not though dialogue. We get a feel of her through her actions and choices. She travels around and she appears to have access to money. She loves to stuff herself with colourful sweets and foods, and she seeks contact with others in the strangest places. What do you think she would have done if the homeless man didn’t take off?

Why didn’t she name her pet rat? And why did she decide to get it in the first place? She seems to genuinely care for it though, and she was really relived when she found it in the parking lot.


 No.498

>>497

Considering the analogue aspect. Kiya desperately seeks connection. The crts don't receive signals anymore, hence the snow. She is transfixed on the snow waiting for a signal to broadcast, a connection?


 No.499

>>498

Damn. Now I feel dumb for not considering that.

She must have been watching a VHS/DVD by the fireplace then, since she listened to the talk about aliens. The lines we hear are from Plan 9 from Outer Space. Is there some reference/symbolism to that? I haven’t seen it myself.


 No.501

>>499

>Now I feel dumb for not considering that.

Don't! I think I have a copy of Plan 9. Can have a look over it. It was talking about being able to translate any language into English wasn't it? So maybe something about seeking understanding...if only it were as easy as having that translation device.


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>>501

>Don't!

Too late!

As for the quote from Plan 9 from Outer Space… It almost implies that the snow Kiya watches on the TVs are alien messages that we can’t decode. The snow is background noise from space, echoes from the Big Bang, so there is a connection to space there.

There are many sources of electromagnetic noise which cause the characteristic display patterns of static. Atmospheric sources of noise are the most ubiquitous, and include electromagnetic signals prompted by cosmic microwave background radiation,[1] or more localized radio wave noise from nearby electronic devices.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_%28video%29

Also, I was dead wrong – as usual. She is watching the film in the motel room, but the audio plays over the bonfire scene too. I cut the first part of the quote, since it begins with Marshall passed out over the toilet in the bathroom – the cut line is “There are flying saucers.


 No.503

>>502

>The snow is background noise from space, echoes from the Big Bang, so there is a connection to space there.

Absolutely For a while, it came in as just a lot of jumbled noise [snow]. Could we then interpret her staring at the snow as a reflection of her inability to understand (and therefore connect meaningfully with) others?


 No.504

BO have you watched it? What do you think?


 No.505

>>503

That’s how I see it now, thanks to your input. Kiya feels like an alien who is unable to communicate with others, so she bases her interactions based on what she sees online; stilted interactions and the constant need for verification through ‘likes’, no matter what you have to do to get that approval.

>>504

I got a PM from him earlier and he had a fever and was feeling under the weather. Hopefully he’ll see it before he checks back on us here and we spoil the whole film for him.


 No.506

>>505

>so she bases her interactions based on what she sees online

This makes sense.

Ah gotchya. I hope he feels better soon.


 No.507

>>506

I think you’ve solved it!

What do you think of the mirror scene? Is it just me or did she move her hand before her reflection?

And, why didn’t she name her pet rat?


 No.508

>>507

The entire mirror section is lagged by a little bit. All of her movements don't correspondent simultaneously in that scene. Most notably when she moves her hand. It's very off putting when you're not expecting it.

>why didn’t she name her pet rat?

It reminds me of Holly Golightly in Breakfast at Tiffany's. She refuses to name the cat that she's all but adopted. I think the reading in that movie is that she wants to have control and independence so she keeps everything and everyone (even the poor cat) at arms length. But in Like Me, considering that it is connection that Kiya craves, perhaps it's a reflection of her alieness. She's says something to the motel owner like

>a rat wouldn't recognise his own name anyway

and he responds

>the name isn't for the rat though is it

Like she has a fundamentally different way of thinking/seeing/understanding of life. Maybe she is autistic like you suggested earlier.


 No.514

>>506

>Ah gotchya. I hope he feels better soon.

Aw, thanks anon!

I'm still sick but much better than the other day, hopefully I'll be able to watch it later.


 No.515

>>514

Right on!


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>>515

Do you think that is the director implying kids today have lost the ability to interact normally and seek gratification (likes) and contact online, to the point that they have become incapable of telling right from wrong and interpreting boundaries and social norms?

As for the ending… after she killed(?) Burt, there was this weird mixture of feelings in the scene – she appears to feel just as alienated and alone as she did, yet she seems peaceful – are we to take this as her accepting her ‘otherness’? Did she realize that removing her biggest critic only made her feel even more alone – hollow even? His videos appears to be the main driving force behind her actions for much of the film.

Also, I just finished ‘A Field in England’… It was probably the biggest mindfuck I have ever seen. It’ll take some time before I can try to make sense of it. I found some elements of it to be quite similar to NWR’s ‘Valhalla Rising’.


 No.527

BO here, sorry for letting you guys down again today. Got sidetracked with bantz and OC.

Hopefully tomorrow in the morning I'll get it together and watch the thing.


 No.532

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>>527

>Got sidetracked with bantz and OC.

There's no shame in that.

Hopefully we didn't spoil anything about Like Me for you already.


 No.533

>>520

>Do you think that is the director implying kids today have lost the ability to interact normally and seek gratification (likes) and contact online, to the point that they have become incapable of telling right from wrong and interpreting boundaries and social norms?

I read it more as a character study of her in particular rather than an indictment of youth in general.

>Did she realize that removing her biggest critic only made her feel even more alone – hollow even? His videos appears to be the main driving force behind her actions for much of the film.

Yeah it was like right after he drops she seems a bit at a loss. Maybe she's contemplating whether his interaction was worth more than online views and she just took it away? I'm not sure.

>I just finished ‘A Field in England’

Ah yes, this has been on my list for a while. I still haven't watched Valhalla Rising either.


 No.535

>>532

>There's no shame in that.

Thanks for the encouragement lol.

>Hopefully we didn't spoil anything about Like Me for you already.

Don't worry, you didn't. I saw the posts about the movie but didn't read them.

I'll post the review tomorrow because I'm about to fall asleep here but it's already in progress (367 words so far, it will be juicy when I finish it). I'm going to address some of the points you guys brought up and others.

Also, forgive me in advance for the /o/bsession that will make an appearance in it, I can't help it.


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>>533

>I read it more as a character study of her in particular rather than an indictment of youth in general.

People online were cheering her on, encouraging her and coming up with suggestions on what to do next. I took it as a comment that people online have become desensitised to violence and the plights of others, or that we only reveal our true selves when we are anonymous.

<“Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.”

<— Oscar Wilde

There is a moment in the trailer when the mask she wore at the beginning suddenly appears on her face again – I forget when this happens in the film though. I think that hiding behind anonymity online and drive for likes on social media are key to the film.

Two other scenes of note that I would like to hear how you two interpreted:

She is looking up at the night-sky and he hear this breathing sound and see the spirals from the motel room blend with the night-sky. The swirls in the clouds reminded me of Vincent van Gogh’s famous painting ‘The Starry Night’. The subtitles read ‘(bizarre music) (static humming)’ as we cut to a shot of the collection of old analogue TVs stacked on top of each other, and Kiya and Marshall sitting close by, around a bonfire in the forest.

Then there is the scene where she is alone with the pet rat, sitting next to the TV (showing snow) on the floor with a phone. Before this it seemed like she was starting to show regret and as she waits for someone on the other end to pick up, nervousness. She hangs up the phone as she hears sirens.

>>535

I swear you two are making me look like a troglodyte who just loves to watch the pretty colours on the screen and ramble on endlessly as I try to make head and/or tails of what I’ve just seen.


 No.540

>>533

‘Valhalla Rising’ blew me away when I first saw it on TV. I have seen it quite a few times now, thrice on Blu-ray after I bought it. NWR changed a lot of things from the script as per usual I think, but like with ‘The Neon Demon’, you can see and deduce some of the things that were originally planned. I have an above average interest in Norse mythology and the Icelandic sagas, so I think I recognise quite a few themes and parallels to those in the film, probably from the original script written by my fellow countryman, Roy Jacobsen.

I have no fucking clue what ‘A Field in England’ was about though – that film is such an incredible mindfuck I felt like I had dropped acid with Barry Nyle whilst watching it, though hopefully the effects of it are less severe and not as long-term. It is absolutely stunning to look at though, and the scene where Whitehead emerges from the tent was pretty damn eerie.


 No.542

>>538

>People online were cheering her on...

iirc there were also people calling her sick and condemning her etc.

>I took it as a comment that people online have become desensitised to violence and the plights of others, or that we only reveal our true selves when we are anonymous.

I agree that this seems to be a point made.

>as we cut to a shot of the collection of old analogue TVs stacked on top of each other, and Kiya and Marshall sitting close by, around a bonfire in the forest.

It just struck me, and this could be a reach. Isn't passive tv watching often regarded as a modern form of watching flames flicker? A semi-hypnotic state? The static hum, the crackle and pop as the wood burns.

>Then there is the scene where she is alone with the pet rat, sitting next to the TV (showing snow) on the floor with a phone. Before this it seemed like she was starting to show regret and as she waits for someone on the other end to pick up, nervousness. She hangs up the phone as she hears sirens.

Was this when she was waiting for the motel owner to come to her door? I need to look through movie again.

>>540

>I have an above average interest in Norse mythology and the Icelandic sagas

Feel free to make a thread on /sapphic/ if not here. I'd like to learn more.


 No.543

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>>542

>iirc there were also people calling her sick and condemning her etc.

I think those were in the minority though. However, it is interesting that her most outspoken critic shows his face and name, while she remains anonymous, even using her screen-name IRL.

>It just struck me, and this could be a reach. Isn't passive tv watching often regarded as a modern form of watching flames flicker? A semi-hypnotic state? The static hum, the crackle and pop as the wood burns.

It does sound like it could be a further hint that Kiya is autistic. Isn’t a fascination with snow/static something that is associated with autism?

>Was this when she was waiting for the motel owner to come to her door?

It is after Marshall gets beats her up and escapes. She lies in the bathtub, and then she sits alone in the motel room with the TV and the phone - her lip is cracked and she is bruised/has a black eye. I thought she wanted to reach out to her family or a friend/friends - if she even have any.

>Feel free to make a thread on /sapphic/ if not here. I'd like to learn more.

wew

Well, I will do my best to help then!


 No.545

Hey guys, BO here. Turns out the Red Devil made a return to our general and it got all shook up, right now I'm discussing Beyond the Black Rainbow with other anons (who didn't like it).

My "Like Me" review isn't ready yet.


 No.547

>>545

Tell GaHoole to get his shit together. /tv/ is a raging dumpster fire and GaHoole is just sitting back to warm his hands to the fire.


 No.550

>>543

>Isn’t a fascination with snow/static something that is associated with autism?

Not sure.

>It is after Marshall gets beats her up and escapes.

Ah yes, I just rewatched the scene. I remember thinking she was calling the motel owner and then upon hearing the sirens assuming they're for her, she runs.

>Well, I will do my best to help then!

Nice, thanks. Will check it out soon.

>>545

What did you think about adding Darling to our pool of movies to watch and discuss?


 No.552

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I loved Like Me from start to end. Not quite as deep as the previous Beyond the Black Rainbow but very entertaining and a visual feast. It's definitely an art film, but the plot takes a back seat to beauty. Without further ado, the review:

Kiya: I found she has similarities to Sydney from Nerve. We see an individual that's desperate to show how daring she is to the world at any prize, in need of constant validation. She displays confidence but it's bluff to hide a fragile ego. And the way they seek this validation is social media. While Sydney earns money in Nerve and climbs ranks for completing dares, Kiya does it for the likes and comes up with the stunts herself. I wonder if she had monetization and saw Burt as a menace to that. Risk seems to be a major motivation for them both, too.

Unlike Sydney, she doesn't have friends. I don't think she was autistic, but she reminds me of vegans who can't relate to people (or who get rejected because of their behavior and then blame the other people because they couldn't possibly be the problem) so they say they prefer animals over people. And they're not lying, they're just alienated, as you guys said (and probably mentally unsound). Kiya obviously valued the rat over Marshall (can't really blame her because he was a creep). Interestingly enough, we see her buy the rat only after the homeless man flees from her.

The observation that Kiya moves faster than her reflection in the mirror was a quite interesting one, I had completely missed it. Maybe it's an allegory to her realizing the consequences of her actions only after she's done them and got some kind of feedback? Feedback being likes or a strong reaction. She didn't seem too worried about shooting Marshall or hitting Burt until she saw the result. In a way she's like Gigi in The Neon Demon: she's vain and willing to do carry out evil acts, but after she does them reality hits her and makes her sick. Incidentally, both vomit.

Much like Elena's from Beyond the Black Rainbow, Kiya's origins are a mystery (Where did you come from? Who raised you? Are you a feral child?). The way she eats at the dinner certainly amplifies this notion. I assume she knows the answers, but it's an interesting parallel. And much like Elena, it seems like her only way of learning stuff is watching TV (and old TV on the internet as well as tutorials). Interestingly enough some of it consisted of old cartoons and archive footage. Burt also acts in a way similar to Barry in terms of conditioning her behavior and shattering her confidence. And when she calls Marshall from the room, we see a flashing cartoon wolf and the caption "you're in control". Maybe she was part of an experiment as a child and escaped? Maybe the acid she says she tried was given to her in some facility? And look at the tattoo on her ankle, a number, 2242.

During the scene where she stares at the static I assumed she'd be hallucinating under the effects of paint.

On the looks department, besides the obvious observation that she's absolutely gorgeous, I couldn't help noticing how much she looks like an refined amalgamation of the best from Matrix-era Carrie-Anne Moss, Death Proof-era Mary Elyzabeth Winstead, Alizee and current Emma Noelle Roberts.

Marshall: First thing I noticed was his striking resemblance to Jack Nicholson in the first scene. I'm not sure if it was intentional or not, but I lean towards yes. I mean, we have the creepy owner (and manager) of a Motel, who used to be the son of the owner. I didn't watch The Shining or read the book because I'm not too fond of Stanley Kubrick or Stephen King after having been disappointed over and over by their stuff, but that sounds exactly like the character Johnny. A friend once had a Stephen King book (Cujo I think it was, but seriously each book full of long-drawn, excessive sensory description is indistiguishable from the others) and told me it was trash, I took a look and he wasn't wrong. Stephen King's work can often be a good source material for films because of the same reasons that make it a bad read, i.e. the overdescriptiveness, but that takes a true auteur like John Carpenter or Brian de Palma to make it work.

He is also like a less-creepy version of Hank, the motel manager from The Neon Demon (if only because he wasn't set out to rape our protagonist but only went there after she called him). Or maybe he's committed rape too, it isn't clear what he says after the effect of inhaling paint is wearing off.

His previous history with paint likely saved his life, as it's expected that Kiya would be more confused coming out of it with it being her first time. She let her guard down but it didn't affect Marshall as much. I wonder if during the time skip Kiya passed out and Marshall took the opportunity to release the rat.

He's redeemed in a way when he refrains from taking advantage of Kiya and and exacting revenge on her after he punches her.

Burt: He was the angry champion of morals. Was he really that flustered or was he playing a character a la Alex Jones for views? In a way, he's as guilty as Kiya, because he feeds the trolls. However, it seems like he managed to hurt Kiya's feelings leading to the developments we saw. At the same time, it would seem that he's the catalyst for her to carry out certain acts. Would she have shot Marshall if Burt didn't tell her she wouldn't shoot him? I don't know.

The "paranormal" events: They happen when Kiya and Marshall are in the woods or coming back from there. The first one was the campfire being replaced by a pile of tube TVs. The second one was the eel coming out of Marshall's arm. I don't know what to make out of the pile of TVs. I took the eel, the liquid surroundings of the car and the weird lighting inside it as a result of Marshall getting shot and becoming delirious. That was my interpretation as I watched, but now writing this and reflecting on it, there could implied drug use in the woods or alien activity. Interestingly, Burt kicks off one of his videos with the sentence Bonjour you sexy humans and extra terrestrials.

The clerk and the homeless man: Just like Marshall and Burt, both of them start from a position of being in control of the situation to losing control when Kiya takes over, in the homeless man's case after some negotiating with her. There's not much to be said about them.

The Car: it's a fourth generation Cutlass Salon fastback coupe, very similar choice to he Driver's third generation Chevrolet Chevelle (and even the same platform) from Drive. I checked it after watching the film because the resemblance is so strong that I wasn't sure that it wasn't the same car. The interior shots when she's going to the diner with the homeless man are very Drive-esque too. Not that it means anything, I can't resist my /o/bsession.

The visuals: The parts that impressed me the most were the motel scenes, the forest scene, the diner scene, the montage (pet store, arcades, night driving and beach at night), the scene with Kiya driving to the diner, the candy montages. The motel scene was specially impressive in that the peculiarity of the rooms isn't evident until the camera goes up and reveals the bloody looking roof. I had to go back during that scene because I wasn't sure if it was Kiya who had somehow turned the roof red or if it was like that before she went there.

The meaning of the film: We get a sadistic, narcissistic turbocutie in need of validation and instant gratification (as shown by her feasting on sweets and food), and like Burt said, a fame obssessed junkie. In her desperate quest for notoriety and validation, she does increasingly despicable things, with a futile attempt at breaking her alienation by trying to bond with the homeless man who ends up fleeing from her as soon as he has an opportunity to do so. Apparently the only way she has to keep people around is by making them her hostages. And this isn't only true for people, as the rat escapes too (even if she catches it again). And in the end, her narcissism was so severe, that instead of reconsidering her path after getting backlash for her actions she decided to kill her main detractor. The title of the film is evidently meant in the imperative sense.

In a similar way to The Neon Demon, it's a cautionary tale about the dangers of vanity (and in this case, alienation). Except that this time the tale is centered on the wolf instead of the lamb.

The Memes:I was amused how memetic it is. You can fit a myriad of memes in it. You name it: Baneposting, witness me, driver wearing a mask, online incitations to suicide (down to making it explicit that it's down the road, not across the street). The Second Amendment advocacy was nice to see too, and something I didn't expect.


 No.553

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>>552

>Maybe it's an allegory to her realizing the consequences of her actions only after she's done them and got some kind of feedback? Feedback being likes or a strong reaction.

This is a really good take. and coupled with

>And when she calls Marshall from the room, we see a flashing cartoon wolf and the caption "you're in control". Maybe she was part of an experiment as a child and escaped? Maybe the acid she says she tried was given to her in some facility? And look at the tattoo on her ankle, a number, 2242. It makes me wonder. It's like she has no prior experience in life to guide her actions, like she has a blank history. Maybe she has suffered some kind of traumatic experiments/conditioning before becoming loose on the world.

>I couldn't help noticing how much she looks like an refined amalgamation of the best from Matrix-era Carrie-Anne Moss, Death Proof-era Mary Elyzabeth Winstead, Alizee and current Emma Noelle Roberts.

I thought she was a Mara girl at first.

>Marshall: First thing I noticed was his striking resemblance to Jack Nicholson in the first scene.

I had the exact same reaction.

>there could implied drug use in the woods or alien activity.

It looks like they could have taken mushrooms at the fire pit. It shows them ingesting something that looks like dried mushrooms.

>I had to go back during that scene because I wasn't sure if it was Kiya who had somehow turned the roof red or if it was like that before she went there.

Hah I thought the same thing at first. I was like "why isn't he freaking out over what she did to the room?"


 No.554

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>>553

>It makes me wonder. It's like she has no prior experience in life to guide her actions, like she has a blank history. Maybe she has suffered some kind of traumatic experiments/conditioning before becoming loose on the world.

Exactly. To be honest I wouldn't have catched some details like the ankle tattoo if I didn't go back to the movie when finishing my review to get some pictures.

>I thought she was a Mara girl at first.

Interesting take, I didn't see the similarity myself but it might have something to do with my lack of familiarity with them.

>I had the exact same reaction.

And he even wears a sweater! I just noticed it in your pic. I lean towards the idea that it was intentional.

>It looks like they could have taken mushrooms at the fire pit. It shows them ingesting something that looks like dried mushrooms.

I hadn't noticed it myself, but it makes a whole lot of sense.

>Hah I thought the same thing at first. I was like "why isn't he freaking out over what she did to the room?"

I thought he'd be scared seeing her in the hammock like a spider waiting to devour her prey.

>>550

>What did you think about adding Darling to our pool of movies to watch and discuss?

It looks good, I think it's a solid candidate.

Over a the general someone (you?) had suggested these too:

>Baskin

>Housewife

>Under the Skin

And there's "You're next", from the director of "The Guest".


 No.556

>>547

I think we should cut him some slack, he seemed to be away as spam was rampant and then out of the suddenly a bunch of threads got anchored and others deleted.

I'm afraid that if he wins our generals could get shoah'd by lumping them with the waifu threads. Of course we could still have business as usual if we refrain from posting our muse and just making them giallo/neon/slasher threads. It won't be as enjoyable and it'll take away most of the banter but it's workable.

In a way the spam did us a favor, as it brought the thread over bump limit and I had the perfect motive for making v18 on April 20th. You know how much I like to play with numbers.

And speaking of the Red Devil, my animated banner from Scream Queens season one made the cut, with our muse in it!

I just went and checked the /tv/ banner list again and my Stalker banner was added too.


 No.557

>>554

>I lean towards the idea that it was intentional.

Same. Even down to the hair style, hair part and stubble.


 No.558

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Hey, look at what I found as related to Like Me, the poster looks good.


 No.559

>>558

Ohh looks interesting. Which film should we watch first?


 No.560

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>>558

wew

I found that poster when I was looking for Like Me pics too – among other things…

Not too sold on the trailer though, but I’m not opposed to watching it.


 No.561

>>559

Not sure at all, but whatever film we pick I think it'll take long for me to be able to watch it. I'm entering the midterm exams period.

>>560

I love those pics, specially the one with Elle and the knife! Makes me wish she did some slasher with her being the killer.

>Not too sold on the trailer though, but I’m not opposed to watching it.

Oh, that's a bummer. I'll check out the trailer and report back.


 No.563

The Shining is better than every single movie you've discussed ITT combined


 No.564

>>563

lol ok


 No.565

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>>559

We should probably find some way to pick one at random from those we have suggested.

>>561

>I love those pics, specially the one with Elle and the knife! Makes me wish she did some slasher with her being the killer.

Same! NWR’s sets look like an interesting place to be…

I wonder if there are BTS photos of him either about to be ‘killed’ or ‘killing’ someone from every film he’s made?

Fingers crossed for Elle appearing in more horros films&slashers.

I’ll start to write on my response to Barry’s thesis later today – you brought up some really interesting points and details that I had completely missed. Burt also mentioning aliens, and the possibility that Kiya might have been locked up in a mental institution… wew

And speaking of mushrooms and going on acid trips – if that’s your thing ‘A Field in England’ has that too, and one of the most bizarre, beautiful and mindmelting acid scenes I have seen.


 No.566

>>563

I told you not to come here Zach


 No.568

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>>566

Aw, he just wants some attention now that he is banned from shitting up /tv/.


 No.569

>>568

He got banned again?

Last thing I heard GaHoole2 said he was letting him off the hook and giving him a second chance.


 No.570

>>569

You have got to be fucking kidding me. That’s the last straw. There is no reason to go to /tv/ any longer, and it looks like Zach's decided to visit us here, so it'll be like we've never left.


 No.571

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>>423

I just came across a copy of Top Squad (1988) with her in it. After viewing the intro fight sequence it looks like it will be a fun one.


 No.572

>>570

Think about it, if he was banned last night's thread wouldn't have been as comical. He even told the guy in the video that he was projecting, without realizing what it truly was.


 No.573

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>>572

>if he was banned last night's thread wouldn't have been as comical.


 No.574

>>573

Let's call it black comedy. Funny thing is that I don't think he's the only one who got fooled.


 No.575

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>>573

Nice Maisie. Mind if I borrow it?


 No.576

>>561

What are you studying?


 No.577

>>575

By all means; Maisies are for sharing IMHO.


 No.578

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>>552

Anyone else found similarities between Kiya’s obsession with social media and getting likes and the recent case of the YouTube shooter?

I didn’t get the impression that Marshall was a creep – at first I thought that’s the direction the film was heading in, but in the end Marshall had grown on me, while Kiya had become more and more unlikeable, and it is interesting that he is a more sane and functional member of society than Kiya – by a long shot, despite him wanting to have sex with the possibly underage Kiya. I think you are spot on about the connection between Marshall & Jack Torrence/The Shining.

I was reminded of the Nietzsche quote (stare into the abyss) twice during the film; first when Kiya looks at her reflection in the diner restroom (and the eerie delay/reaction time occurs), and when she is looking up at the night-sky on top of Marshall’s painting of the swirls. As I mentioned earlier I think the allusion to van Gogh’s painting is intentional – Marshall is an artist as well.

With the exception of Burt (and the other characters we see on videos), the main characters are all mentally damaged and flawed; Kiya is an attention-craving psychopath who wants to be liked and to feel contact to another being, Marshall is traumatised by his failure to protect his family and seems jaded and broken down.

I noticed that there is a mask hanging by the door in her motel room – I don’t think it is the same mask she used in the fake robbery however. When she invited Marshall to her room she still covered her face, even though she didn’t have a mask on. She doesn’t use her real name, she avoids talking about anything personal. She hides behind anonymity and yet she craves contact – this could be a further clue that she is autistic, since there is a barrier between her and others that she can’t break through.

When she asked the homeless man what animal he would be he responded by saying he would like to be ‘something in the water. Something big. And just floating around’, and then agrees with Kiya’s suggestion of a whale shark. Then right after the homeless man takes off, we see fishes in an aquarium. In the motel room with the swirling clouds in the ceiling, the floor is painted as the ocean, with waves and maelstroms (swirls). Marshall tells her the story of the storm and how he got stuck in the flood (‘the motel was under water’) – as he shares this traumatic and emotional story we see snow from an analogue TV playing over the scene, this becomes more and more intense as he goes on, the subtitles eventually read ‘static drowning out Marshall’. This is a strong key to the viewers that Kiya is incapable of dealing with real human emotions, or how to respond – it feels like static to her, something she can’t understand at all. Then there is the eel coming out of Marshall’s gunwound in his feverish nightmare (possibly induced by the mushrooms, or something else). In the end she chases Burt to the beach.

The motel room painting is Marshall probably trying to deal with the storm and the flood, but I’m not sure what the rest of the references to fish and the ocean is supposed to be about.

>Kiya’s 2242 tattoo

I know Addison Timlin has some small tattoos IRL – it could be one of hers.

According to Wikipedia, during the 1500s it was believed that the world would end in the year 2242. There is also the possibility that the ‘42’ refers to Douglas Adams’ ‘The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy’, where ‘42’ is the ‘Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything’, calculated by the super computer Deep Thought. This could further be referenced in the dialogue from ‘Plan 9 From Outer Space’, where they talk about a computer that interprets the alien communications and make them understandable to us.


 No.579

>>576

I'm in the STEM field, it's a bit more advanced than a Bachelor's program (5 years). I won't elaborate further because of PERSEC.


 No.581

>>578

>Anyone else found similarities between Kiya’s obsession with social media and getting likes and the recent case of the YouTube shooter?

Maybe the alienation. As I said earlier, Kiya had similarities to vegans in that regard. Other than that I don't notice much in common.

>I didn’t get the impression that Marshall was a creep – at first I thought that’s the direction the film was heading in, but in the end Marshall had grown on me, while Kiya had become more and more unlikeable, and it is interesting that he is a more sane and functional member of society than Kiya – by a long shot, despite him wanting to have sex with the possibly underage Kiya. I think you are spot on about the connection between Marshall & Jack Torrence/The Shining.

>With the exception of Burt (and the other characters we see on videos), the main characters are all mentally damaged and flawed; Kiya is an attention-craving psychopath who wants to be liked and to feel contact to another being, Marshall is traumatised by his failure to protect his family and seems jaded and broken down.

I mean, he is the victim in this situation and we're supposed to like him more than Kiya, and we get an explanation of what lead him to become what he is, but in my eyes he's still a creep, even if he's obviously better adjusted than Kiya. There are no heroes in this film. I'd argue that even Burt is flawed, he obviously harbors hatred for Kiya. He doesn't want her to reform herself, he wants her to kill herself. He'd probably browse /cow/ if he was real.

>I was reminded of the Nietzsche quote (stare into the abyss) twice during the film; first when Kiya looks at her reflection in the diner restroom (and the eerie delay/reaction time occurs), and when she is looking up at the night-sky on top of Marshall’s painting of the swirls. As I mentioned earlier I think the allusion to van Gogh’s painting is intentional – Marshall is an artist as well.

And Marshall is high on paint when he paints. It has been speculated that van Gogh suffered lead poisoning from careless use of pigments.

>I noticed that there is a mask hanging by the door in her motel room – I don’t think it is the same mask she used in the fake robbery however. When she invited Marshall to her room she still covered her face, even though she didn’t have a mask on. She doesn’t use her real name, she avoids talking about anything personal. She hides behind anonymity and yet she craves contact – this could be a further clue that she is autistic, since there is a barrier between her and others that she can’t break through.

I completely missed that. Isn't she called Kiya though?

>This is a strong key to the viewers that Kiya is incapable of dealing with real human emotions, or how to respond – it feels like static to her, something she can’t understand at all.

I interpreted it as her not caring more than anything, she got bored with the story. And since she was high from the paint, static acquired a mesmerizing quality.

Likely having experienced this before, Marshall asks her if she hears traffic. It's shown as if Kiya goes for the rat and finds it, but maybe Marshall himself released it when we see the reflection of static in Kiya's eye. Like she disengaged from everything surrounding her for a moment and Marshall took the opportunity to release the rat.

>The motel room painting is Marshall probably trying to deal with the storm and the flood, but I’m not sure what the rest of the references to fish and the ocean is supposed to be about.

I completely agree, he needed something to occupy himself with.

>I know Addison Timlin has some small tattoos IRL – it could be one of hers.

Interesting, that could well be the case.

>According to Wikipedia, during the 1500s it was believed that the world would end in the year 2242. There is also the possibility that the ‘42’ refers to Douglas Adams’ ‘The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy’, where ‘42’ is the ‘Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything’, calculated by the super computer Deep Thought. This could further be referenced in the dialogue from ‘Plan 9 From Outer Space’, where they talk about a computer that interprets the alien communications and make them understandable to us.

I haven't read it but it makes sense. Sounds a bit far fetched but maybe they wanted to be subtle about it.


 No.582

>>581

>Other than that I don't notice much in common.

Two women who wield guns and carry out crimes because of their social media videos?

>He doesn't want her to reform herself, he wants her to kill herself. He'd probably browse /cow/ if he was real.

Him going on about how we are running out of natural resources and saying it would be a good thing for Kiya to kill herself reminded me of Bill in Uwe Boll’s ‘Rampage’, who would go on the exact same rant, though he would take matters into his own hands to deal with over-population…

There are a lot of Burt’s out there on the Internet/imageboards tbh.

>Isn't she called Kiya though?

Surely that can’t be meant as her birth-name? I know Americans name their kids a lot of weird shit, but Kiya sounds like an Asian car manufacturer – Kia Motors. She uses the name on her social media, and she gives that name to the people she meet, but it doesn’t strike me as something she would want others to know, so to me it was pretty obvious she was lying/giving her nickname to them.

>I interpreted it as her not caring more than anything

That makes her an even worse person; it is one thing to be completely incapable of dealing with human emotions and the situation, but for her to not give a fuck as he tells his story makes her unlikeable.

We know she wants to hear a story, but I think that she would tell them if she found the story boring, demanding they tell another one. The snow and the static overlapping with Marshall’s story and droning it out seemed to fit perfectly with her being incapable of understanding human emotions, rather than her not caring.


 No.583

>>582

>Two women who wield guns and carry out crimes because of their social media videos?

Well, the motivations were different. Nasim didn't stream crimes, she went postal against youtube because they demonetized her.

Kiya is more like a snuff producer or a youtube prankster.

>Him going on about how we are running out of natural resources and saying it would be a good thing for Kiya to kill herself reminded me of Bill in Uwe Boll’s ‘Rampage’, who would go on the exact same rant, though he would take matters into his own hands to deal with over-population…

I'm not sure he believed in overpopulation though, he just used it as a "knife" to hurt Kiya.

>There are a lot of Burts out there on the Internet/imageboards tbh.

Indeed. And Kiyas too.

>Surely that can’t be meant as her birth-name? I know Americans name their kids a lot of weird shit, but Kiya sounds like an Asian car manufacturer – Kia Motors. She uses the name on her social media, and she gives that name to the people she meet, but it doesn’t strike me as something she would want others to know, so to me it was pretty obvious she was lying/giving her nickname to them.

I don't know, it sounds like a feasible birth name to me. And since you brought up shootings, Nikolas Cruz is proof that the ones in charge of policing are incompetent, like Burt said. The guy posted with his full name that he was "going to be a professional school shooter". Also Kia is pronounced differently, kee-ah.

>

That makes her an even worse person; it is one thing to be completely incapable of dealing with human emotions and the situation, but for her to not give a fuck as he tells his story makes her unlikeable.

I think she was looking for exciting stories and she got bored by what sounded like a downer to her, who as we know is always after a dopamine rush. Yes, it makes her more unlikeable.

>We know she wants to hear a story, but I think that she would tell them if she found the story boring, demanding they tell another one. The snow and the static overlapping with Marshall’s story and droning it out seemed to fit perfectly with her being incapable of understanding human emotions, rather than her not caring.

Interesting angle, but let's not forget that she's under the influence of inhaled paint.


 No.584

>>579

Good luck with it!

>>581

>I interpreted it as her not caring more than anything, she got bored with the story.

I thought she seemed fairly affected by his story. She is welling up with tears and seems overwhelmed when it cuts to her staring at the snow. But I don't understand what she means when she says Have you ever done this before? What is she referencing?

>>578

>This is a strong key to the viewers that Kiya is incapable of dealing with real human emotions, or how to respond

Agreed

>Then there is the eel coming out of Marshall’s gunwound in his feverish nightmare (possibly induced by the mushrooms, or something else).

I assume it's to do with the mushrooms and stress of the situation as Kiya shares in the hallucination.


 No.585

>>584

>Good luck with it!

Thanks!

>I thought she seemed fairly affected by his story. She is welling up with tears and seems overwhelmed when it cuts to her staring at the snow.

I didn't notice it, only the tears after he mentions the rat. Maybe I should rewatch the scene.

>But I don't understand what she means when she says Have you ever done this before? What is she referencing?

Either watching static when high on paint or being high on paint with another person I think.

>I assume it's to do with the mushrooms and stress of the situation as Kiya shares in the hallucination.

But does she share with the hallucination or is it Marshall hallucinating that she does?

Or is it not an hallucination and actually an ayy lmao event?


 No.586

Also there's another angle that I thought. Maybe Kiya is one of those kids raised by television. You know the type, busy or lazy parents let the TV babysit their children, and they end up learning most things from TV.


 No.587

>>586

That actually makes a lot of sense. She seems to love junkfood/sweets and think that rules do not apply to her. She is what you get when you let the TV raise your kid and when they grow up they go on social media to get approval and contact.


 No.588

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>>587

You know what I like about that theory? It's a lot less convoluted than the others, and it implies a deeper social commentary. Not only it requires less speculation but it also provides an explanation for the campfire getting surrounded by TVs - that she associated it to watching similar scenes on TV.

On the other hand, it lacks some of the mysticism of the research facility/mental institution theory.

All in all, I think the ambiguity surrounding her backstory is a good thing, because it lends itself to different interpretations.

Also I got the dates for my midterms, and watching some film up to this weekend wouldn't be out of the question for me.

If you guys have the time, I think it'd be good to seize the opportunity and keep the club active.

We need to decide what to watch, though.

I had forgot to check the trailer for Psychopaths and had a surprise... First one to appear was the actor who played Marshall in Like Me. The trailer does seem weak though. Seems like a bad Hotline Miami ripoff.

And as I was watching, I saw this on the related videos: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=v4J8qrcpysM

Horror movie starring Al Pacino and Karl Urban. I love Al Pacino but the film doesn't seem too compelling and also looks like it's trying to bank on Hotline Miami fans without much to back it up.


 No.590

>>588

I'm going to shamelessly check my own dubs and now I'll list some of the candidates for the next movie to watch:

Starry Eyes – artsy horror in the same vein as NWR’s The Neon Demon. Trailer: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=2JbO0eIc3jM

Let Her Out – trailer: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=xqTeAlzawhs

Tragedy Girls – slasher comedy with a strong, colourful ’80s aesthetic. trailer: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=3GmFP7pfz1U

Darling – psychological horror film about a young woman who goes insane after moving as a caretaker to an old Manhattan mansion. Trailer: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=l8MXgy3NdhI

You're Next – Slasher from the director of The Guest. Trailer: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=MaqmU0L-KCs

Let me know if you have watched any of them (I suspect Starry Eyes has been watched by Eastman already).

Also maybe we could add some other films from other genres, something more Drive-esque for example. Or perhaps some older films. My backlog includes The Double Life Of Veronique, Paris, Texas, La Notte, Wild at Heart. I'm guessing Wild at Heart has been already been watched by our resident Lynch enthusiast.

There's a movie I've wanted to watch for some time, Cocaine Cowboys: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=jtIRkurw6T8

It's a documentary so I don't really expect you guys to back me up, but I'm suggesting it just in case. It deals with the coke kingpins in Miami in the 80s.

As for the initial list, I'm biased in favor of You're Next and against Tragedy Girls. I liked it at first but now watching the trailer again I can't help but suspect it's like a bad version of Scream Queens in feature film form. Like the Heathers series remake but not as pozzed. Also at the risk of sounding like a troglodyte, I'm hesitant to watch Darling because I found out it's in black and white. I feel like it takes away some appeal from the bloodiest scenes.

I know it's a stylistic choice but at the same time it feels like a missed opportunity to have strong visuals, and maybe a bit like pandering and a gimmick (I think it's funny that I say this because Tarkovsky felt the same thing about color films in the '60s but then he used color the rest of his life, although alternating it with black and white in the same movies to convey different things. Not that I'm trying to compare myself to Tarkovsky of course, that'd be an insult to him as the height of my artistic achievement were songs I made with the band I had in high school. There's a before and after Tarkovsky and I'm a mere mortal in contrast).


 No.591

>>585

>But does she share with the hallucination or is it Marshall hallucinating that she does?

Good point.

>Horror movie starring Al Pacino and Karl Urban

I was watching the trailer and about to dismiss it as something I would watch but then they showed Brittany Snow so I'll end up watching it at some point.

>>590

I haven't seen any of the movies listed. I'll leave it for you two to decide which to watch.

>Also at the risk of sounding like a troglodyte, I'm hesitant to watch Darling because I found out it's in black and white

Oh anon! Don't let b/w hold you back, there are many great b/w films.


 No.592

>>591

>I haven't seen any of the movies listed.

That's good!

>I'll leave it for you two to decide which to watch.

I think you should weigh in when we know what Eastman has watched.

>Oh anon! Don't let b/w hold you back, there are many great b/w films.

I agree, in fact La Notte is b/w. But when it comes to blood I like it to look red.


 No.593

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>>588

We have a saying/phrase here, det enkle er ofte det beste (basically it means simplicity is often the best or, the simple solution is often the best one). While your theory takes away the shroud of mysticism, it fits and it doesn't have to be more convoluted than that.

>>590

>Let me know if you have watched any of them (I suspect Starry Eyes has been watched by Eastman already).

I have; it deals with the same themes as NWR’s The Neon Demon, namely trying to break through in LA, jealousy and competition turning deadly, with a dash of the occult, and going to extreme lengths to make one’s dreams come true. The protagonist, Sarah, isn’t a passive villain/victim like Jesse though, but more like a combination of Gigi/Sarah (from TND) & Jesse.

I have also seen Let Her Out & You’re Next. I liked LHO quite a lot – beautiful visuals, very nice soundtrack, and an interesting take on body horror. I can recommend that one. Not so much a fan of YN though. I saw it shortly after The Guest, But I didn’t think it deserved all the praise it got as a return to 1980s horror. Not a bad film though, and if you are into home invasion films, it is worth checking out.

I bought Tragedy Girls on DVD a while back, but I have yet to see it; I really should get around to it though, because the film looks entertaining.

>I'm guessing Wild at Heart has been already been watched by our resident Lynch enthusiast.

Uh, yeah, you’d think so…

I promise I will get around to it though!

>I'm hesitant to watch Darling because I found out it's in black and white. I feel like it takes away some appeal from the bloodiest scenes.

Maybe they did it to avoid the MPAA and their absurd rules, which I have mentioned earlier ITT. I guess that if the film in in b&w you can show all the blood you want – only red blood is haram to show on screen, and will take away the coveted PG-13 rating.

>>591

>then they showed Brittany Snow so I'll end up watching it at some point

Oh you! You’d watch anything as long as she’s in it, wouldn’t you?


 No.595

>>593

>Oh you! You’d watch anything as long as she’s in it, wouldn’t you?

Pr..probably..she's CUTE


 No.596

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>>593

>We have a saying/phrase here, det enkle er ofte det beste (basically it means simplicity is often the best or, the simple solution is often the best one). While your theory takes away the shroud of mysticism, it fits and it doesn't have to be more convoluted than that.

Oh, I agree. It's basically the same as Occam's razor. But I really like the idea that there's something more than what can be seen.

>While your theory takes away the shroud of mysticism, it fits and it doesn't have to be more convoluted than that.

It leaves the LSD to be explained, although she could have simply bought it. I was going to say that it'd require some social skills to buy from a dealer but then I remembered that people even order the stuff online nowadays, and Kiya was no stranger to the internet.

>I have; it deals with the same themes as NWR’s The Neon Demon, namely trying to break through in LA, jealousy and competition turning deadly, with a dash of the occult, and going to extreme lengths to make one’s dreams come true. The protagonist, Sarah, isn’t a passive villain/victim like Jesse though, but more like a combination of Gigi/Sarah (from TND) & Jesse.

Funny that she's also called Sarah. So my hopes that it was fresh for all of us have been crushed, lol.

>I have also seen Let Her Out & You’re Next. I liked LHO quite a lot – beautiful visuals, very nice soundtrack, and an interesting take on body horror. I can recommend that one. Not so much a fan of YN though. I saw it shortly after The Guest, But I didn’t think it deserved all the praise it got as a return to 1980s horror. Not a bad film though, and if you are into home invasion films, it is worth checking out.

Oh, that's a bummer.

>I bought Tragedy Girls on DVD a while back, but I have yet to see it; I really should get around to it though, because the film looks entertaining.

The absolute madman!

>Uh, yeah, you’d think so…

>I promise I will get around to it though!

That makes it a solid candidate and it would add some variety to our repertoire. Also I found out it has some thrash metal with rather powerful riffs in it: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=k0-hy6R_m1s

>Maybe they did it to avoid the MPAA and their absurd rules, which I have mentioned earlier ITT. I guess that if the film in in b&w you can show all the blood you want – only red blood is haram to show on screen, and will take away the coveted PG-13 rating.

I had completely forgot that. I think you're right.

So out of the initial list that leaves us with Tragedy Girls and Darling.

What did you think of the other films I suggested?

Also I just found this while looking at the trailer for Bokeh, starring Maika Monroe (which I sadly wasn't sold on, because I really like Maika).

Final Girl, our beloved Abigail Breslin has become the target of some killers. We've seen this before and it was pretty great. I'm excited about it.


 No.597

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>>595

Has she been in anything you could recommened?

Something sapphic perhaps?

Also have you warmed up to this qt 3,14 yet?

>>596

>Final Girl

Seen it! A while back actually, so I did’t remember #5 was in it! She is just adorable, isnt’t she? Too bad the film isn’t any good.

I’ll whip up a full reply later, it is almost five in the morning and I should try to catch some Zs before I get up (at eight).


 No.598

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>>597

>Seen it! A while back actually, so I did’t remember #5 was in it! She is just adorable, isnt’t she? Too bad the film isn’t any good.

Ouch. The trailer had my hopes up.

>I’ll whip up a full reply later, it is almost five in the morning and I should try to catch some Zs before I get up (at eight).

Sleep tight!

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 No.599

>>597

>Has she been in anything you could recommened?

I haven't actually seen her in anything but PP. But I'm on the look out to see more of her.

>Also have you warmed up to this qt 3,14 yet?

Never!


 No.604

File: 17aadb1b9b388f6⋯.mp4 (10 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, We Are the Flesh - Officia….mp4)

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>>598

>The trailer had my hopes up.

Then, by all means check it out. Don’t let my dislike of it stop you from giving it a watch. You might enjoy it.

>>599

>Never!

And I thought we were making progress earlier, but you are still stuck on denial it seems.

Also, here is a film we could add to the list if it proves impossible to find Housewife online.


 No.607

>>604

>Also, here is a film we could add to the list if it proves impossible to find Housewife online.

Nice. This one looks interesting.


 No.608

>>604

Mexican Spanish sounds like nails scratching a chalkboard to me lol. I'm leaning towards watching Darling.


 No.609

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>>608

OMG, BO! I can’t believe you like Bollywood films too! How wonderful!

:^)


 No.610

>>609

lol, you got me good there


 No.612

File: a7790402131be14⋯.jpg (23.01 KB, 482x453, 482:453, well.jpg)

So what are we watching?


 No.613

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File: cb651f01142c79d⋯.jpg (111.84 KB, 1280x544, 40:17, H18vD.jpg)

File: 0b46da05b2443e8⋯.jpg (57.16 KB, 1280x532, 320:133, suppressor unit.jpg)

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>>612

I’m OK with wither We Are the Flesh or Darling. Hopefully we’ll get around to do both, so the question is which one we watch first.

I have already DL’d We Are the Flesh, but I should have Darling ready in no time too, so I’ll let you two decide.

Also, I noticed some possible visual homages to Star Wars in Beyond the Black Rainbow I noticed while watching the ‘Acid Rain’ music video: The bright white hallways of the Arboria Institute is very similar to the main hallway of the Tantive IV from ‘A New Hope’, and both hallways are filled with white gas/smoke as the sentionaut/Vader enters. Elena is on the floor, knocked out by the gas, and there are dead rebels lying on the floor when Vader enter.

The chamber/room holding the suppressor unit (the glowing white crystal/pyramid) has a similar look & colour-scheme to Vader’s meditation chamber, and (in particular) the chamber where he contacts the Emperor via hologram in ‘The Empire Strikes Back’.


 No.614

>>613

>Also, I noticed some possible visual homages to Star Wars in Beyond the Black Rainbow I noticed while watching the ‘Acid Rain’ music video: The bright white hallways of the Arboria Institute is very similar to the main hallway of the Tantive IV from ‘A New Hope’, and both hallways are filled with white gas/smoke as the sentionaut/Vader enters. Elena is on the floor, knocked out by the gas, and there are dead rebels lying on the floor when Vader enter.

Interesting take, sounds plausible too.

I'm voting on Darling BTW (BO here)


 No.615

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>>614

Guess we are in for some black & white psychological slasher horror next then! We Are the Flesh looks like it will fit right in with the films we have watched so far too – stylistic drug-induced, violent waking nightmares…

While I really enjoyed Like Me, I can’t get BtBR out of my head – I keep seeing similarities, inspirations and new details and interpretations to it all the time. Found this review for Beyond the Black Rainbow yesterday, which details the Lovecraftian/cosmic horror aspects of the film.

Far Voyages — Lovecraftian Themes in ‘Beyond The Black Rainbow’ | Lovecraft eZine: http://archive.is/Cd3Qk

Anyone else checking YT for the trailer to Mandy on a daily basis?


 No.618

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>>615

>Found this review for Beyond the Black Rainbow yesterday,

Great review.

Alright I have Darling ready to go and should have We Are the Flesh soon.


 No.619

Seeds were offline when I tried to download Darling.

I won't be able to watch it until Sunday or Monday because I'll be busy with visits. I suggest we get the other club rolling to save time.


 No.621

>>619

Blood and Roses?


 No.623

HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.

>>619

Yeah, I had trouble with Darling too.

Got really great DL speed on the Blood and Roses from TPB last night.


 No.625

>>619

>I reckon you'll get a kick out of some of the visuals in Blood & Roses BO.


 No.626

>>625

I'll add it to my backlog but I won't be able to watch it until at least Monday either. BTW I have 67.7% of Darling now.


 No.627

>>626

Nice. So are we watching Darling this weekend (presuming you both get it soon)?


 No.628

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>>627

Yes we are! At least I am. Hopefully I'll have it tonight or by Sunday at the latest.


 No.629

>>628

Great!


 No.630

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>>629

I may have been too optimistic in my previous post; currently stuck on 1,81% and no seeders. The only seeder appears to be using dial-up Internet and seeding from some third-world country.

''Pray for Mojo Anon.

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 No.631

>>630

Thoughts and prayers.


 No.632

>>630

Did you try Darling (2015) [1080p] [YTS.AG]?


 No.633

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>>631

Aw, cheers!

Getting really nice DL speed on The Moth Diaries and Parasomnia at the moment. Hopefully Darling will pick up too once the burgers wake up.


 No.635

>>630

I thought that was Maisie in the pic before I clicked it lol


 No.636

>>633

Anna a cute. CUTE!


 No.638

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>>635

They both look like grade-A scream queens tbh.

>>636

IKR? If only WebMAnon would come around and realise that too ;_;


 No.642

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OK, it is long overdue, but I finally got Darling. See y’all on the other side.


 No.643

File: 8afd00029bb00a8⋯.webm (7.71 MB, 796x478, 398:239, Darling (2015) - Staring ….webm)

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>>642

Well I've got to say this one left me feeling kind of empty. While the quick flash editing in Like Me worked really well, it was too jarring in Darling. I got the impression of it being a university level film...undeveloped. There were some scenes I really enjoyed

>the door opening and banging shut by itself

>the text on the drawer

abyssus abyssum invocat I looked up this phrase and it is something like depth calls to depth, which reminds me of the cautionary phrase about looking into the abyss.

>the theme music in webm

Probably because it was used in the trailer and familiar.

When it began I had a completely different idea of the direction it was headed. that she and the man were already dead and this was her reliving something over and over again. Think Triangle.

It did leave me with some questions. Was Madame a satanist? And deliberately choosing mentally unstable victims to place in the house? Or was Darling's case a coincidence? Was the drain in the shower indicative of something?It looks like it had been corroded with acid? Maybe evidence being wiped away previously?

All in all Darling fell flat for me. It just felt like it could have been more.


 No.644

>>642

>>643

I'm still stuck at 67% lol. The cinematography does look amateurish in that clip.


 No.645

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>>643

Something that really stood out to me was the film insisting on this 1950s aesthetic all throughout, but still obviously set in the present day. It felt very disjointed – though that might have been what the director was going for, trying to create this sense that something is wrong. I think the director wanted so bad to set it in the 1950s, but that the budget didn’t allow for it. The shots of the New York skyline and concrete monstrosities that make it up were very atmospheric, but clashed with the ’50s aesthetic in a way that made it hard to suspend my disbelief. One scene in particular fell flat because of this – she is walking through the city and there is modern graffiti on the walls, I saw the word ‘fuck’ at least twice.

The highlight of the film was Lauren Ashley Carter in the lead. I thought she did a fantastic job despite the very minimal use of dialogue to tell the story. In fact I was reminded by silent actress Theda Bara while watching her – she has the same dark aura and large, expressive eyes, and the film could have worked as a silent film IMHO, it has that quality to it, where it manages to tell the story through images rather than dialogue.

The chapter titles (which are similar to NWR’s ‘Valhalla Rising’) felt a bit gimmicky and mood-breaking, trying to startle the audience, but only succeeding in breaking the tension and the atmosphere. For some reason the chapter titles were in German too. Thankfully I know a little German so I was able to get it without having to look it up. The last(?) chapter even has the same title as one in ‘Valhalla Rising’.

>the text on the drawer

This was subtitled in German for me, as ‘Man fällt von einer Sünde in die andere’, which translates as ‘Man falls from one sin to another’. Is that a Biblical reference? I think another translation/interpretation of the Latin text could be ‘void calls to void’. The house, or at least the locked room is a ‘void’, and it calls out to Darling, who is herself empty and a void because of severe abuse and trauma. The house/room calls out to her to complete the other, but since both are empty, there is nothing there to be filled by either, and that causes the cycle to repeat forever; the house will always call out to similarly damaged and empty persons – void calls out to void.

>Was the drain in the shower indicative of something?

Not sure what was up with the shower drain, but the film focused on it twice, I think, and it did not look like your average drain. She washes off the blood in the sink, and in the dream-sequence(?) where she is standing in the shower the blood is washed away and down the drain – maybe just her attempt at washing away her sins, or maybe the blood of her crimes is ‘feeding’ the void/house?

When she wakes up at night we get a good glimpse at a book on her nightstand with an embossed image on the front. I am pretty sure that embossed image depicts Cthulhu’s head. Not sure what the significance is. Any ideas?

It seemed quite obvious that she had suffered some abuse in the past by someone named Henry Sullivan, and that she mistakes the man she meets in the street for her attacker. She checks his driver’s licence again later on and breaks down when she realises it is someone else. I also assume that the reason she freaks out upon forcing open the locked door is because the room is empty, and she realises it was all in her head. Unable to live with herself she goes up on the roof and jumps.


 No.646

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>>645

>I was reminded by silent actress Theda Bara while watching her

I'm unfamiliar with this actress. Upon looking her up how sad to see so many lost films. There is a copy of A Fool There Was on archive though.

https://archive.org/details/A_Fool_There_Was

>the film could have worked as a silent film IMHO, it has that quality to it, where it manages to tell the story through images rather than dialogue

Yes I think it could have benefited as a silent film. I imagine the unsettling factor would be increased.

>For some reason the chapter titles were in German too.

Glad I'm not the only one. I wasn't sure if it was part of the film or a German version I had downloaded.

>‘Man falls from one sin to another’. Is that a Biblical reference?

Doesn't ring a bell for me.

>the house will always call out to similarly damaged and empty persons – void calls out to void.

Wow, nice interpretation. I hadn't thought of it that way.

>When she wakes up at night we get a good glimpse at a book on her nightstand with an embossed image on the front. I am pretty sure that embossed image depicts Cthulhu’s head. Not sure what the significance is. Any ideas?

I'll have to have a look at that scene again.

>I also assume that the reason she freaks out upon forcing open the locked door is because the room is empty, and she realises it was all in her head. Unable to live with herself she goes up on the roof and jumps.

We never get to see what's in the room. When she opens the door she shrieks in terror, the light changes on her face as if something is swinging (the light bulb or something else), she steps back and then nods to whatever she is looking at. She also only jumps when the authorities come knocking at the door. So I'm not so sure the room is empty. If there is a lovecraftian connection, which fits with the void calls to void text, then I read it as there is indeed something in that house. Something dark and otherworldy that infects the caretakers.


 No.647

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>>646

>I'm unfamiliar with this actress. Upon looking her up how sad to see so many lost films.

yeah, I think she may have been the first to portray a seductive vampiress on film. Most of her films are now lost because of a fire in the studio archives, which destroyed many silent films forever. Theda was the sex icon of the 1910s.

Scandals of Classic Hollywood: The Most Wicked Face of Theda Bara - The Hairpin: http://archive.is/8oBs3

>Yes I think it could have benefited as a silent film. I imagine the unsettling factor would be increased.

Indeed. By removing a key way we receive information from the film and the characters, it would force us to pay extra attention to the visuals and the body language. There is very little dialogue in the film to begin with, so there wouldn’t really be many dialogue cards either. If it had been a silent film, the clash between the old aesthetic old and the modern setting would have been greater, and perhaps worked better, since the disconnect would be so great.

>Glad I'm not the only one. I wasn't sure if it was part of the film or a German version I had downloaded.

I remember the intro to Blood and Roses was in German as well, which is strange since the film was in French, presumably dubbed.

>Wow, nice interpretation. I hadn't thought of it that way.

wew I was afraid it would sound pretentious.

As for the Cthulhu connection… The title of the story is The Call of Cthulhu, so the Latin text could be a reference to this call or pull from beyond. In the story sensitive people (mostly artists), are the first to be affected by Cthulhu, in their dreams, as he is waking up from his slumber. Cthulhu is a used as a symbol of our own insignificance in the universe, our inability to fully comprehend the truth, and how easily we could be wiped out without of existence. In the story sensitive people (mostly artists), are the first to be affected by Cthulhu, in their dreams, as he is waking up from his slumber. Cthulhu is a used as a symbol of our own insignificance in the universe, our inability to fully comprehend the truth, and how easily we could be wiped out of existence. There is another Lovecraft story titled The Shunned House that deals with an abandoned house known for its dark history of bringing about sickness and death to its occupants, to the point that no one could endure living there any longer.

I don’t remember the exact quote, but Madame mentions some some dark deed that took place in the house – a summoning of the Devil? Black Masses and rituals performed by cults is a common trope when it comes to Lovecraft’s work as well. The way Darling goes mad and commits suicide is similar to many of Lovecraft’s protagonists, who are unable to deal with the horrific truths they have uncovered about the world or themselves, and when drugs fail them, they either go mad or kill themselves.

If there is something in the locked room it must have been Darling’s worst nightmare. She acted coldly and without any emotion when she murdered the man and cut him up in the bathroom, but whatever she saw, or thought she saw, in that room terrified her. As for Madame, I think she is a pawn in this, she has to make sure someone is living in the house. I doubt she ever stays there herself. Maybe she used to, and instead of driving her to suicide she became tool for the house to attract new occupants to ‘feed’ on.

<“One of the main reasons of my stopping here all these years was a feeling that I must not let the old house starve. Houses starve, you know, if they are not lived in. They die a lingering death; the spirit in them grows weaker and weaker, and at last fades out of them.”

— E. F. Benson, ‘Negotium Perambulans’ (https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/b/benson/ef/negotium-perambulans/)

Looking at the English chapter titles on Wikipedia, the fifth is ‘Inferno’, but the German title I saw was ‘Hölle’, which means ‘Hell’. What did you think of the upside-down shot of the NYC cityscape? Was it just meant to symbolise that her world has been turned upside down following the murder?

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 No.648

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>>644

>I'm still stuck at 67% lol.

Poor BO. I hope you get it soon.

>>647

>I think she may have been the first to portray a seductive vampiress on film

Reading about her reminds me of a series I watched years ago Le Vampires. It was great. There is this criminal gang called the vampires in Paris and each episode is trying to catch them with the lead of the gang being Irma Vep? A real femme fatale. Man I've got to watch them again.

>I remember the intro to Blood and Roses was in German as well, which is strange since the film was in French, presumably dubbed.

I found a few copies, one with french, one with english, and one with german titles. I'm just glad I was able to find a copy with the french audio and english subtitles. Phew.

>wew I was afraid it would sound pretentious.

Not at all, it adds depth to my understanding of the film. In my ignorance of Cthulhu mythos, I missed all of these connections and possible readings.

>I don’t remember the exact quote, but Madame mentions some some dark deed that took place in the house – a summoning of the Devil?

I think Madame mentioned the previous caretaker's suicide and then the poor victim filled in the rumours of the house' dark history. With your information about Lovecraft it would seem that the film maker may have been drawing upon his works as inspiration or set the story within that universe?

>instead of driving her to suicide she became a will-less tool for the house to attract new occupants.

Yes, I don't think she is an innocent character.

>What did you think of the upside-down shot of the NYC cityscape? Was it just meant to symbolise that her world has been turned upside down following the murder?

Honestly, at that point in the film it annoyed me. At the time of viewing it felt like another attempt to create dissonance/discord/unsettled atmosphere. But now after reading your insights I might give it another watch and get more out of it.


 No.649

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>>648

>Le Vampires

There is a character named Satans in it? Do you think that is where Tura Satana (Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!) got her name from?

>I'm just glad I was able to find a copy with the french audio and english subtitles.

Yeah, I have DL’d films that turned out to be in Russian and with no subtitles at all in the past. Best to check the file list container for subtitles or a sample to avoid getting burned.

>I think Madame mentioned the previous caretaker's suicide and then the poor victim filled in the rumours of the house' dark history.

When Madame calls her later on she tells her she finally got a hold of her reference, Dr. Abbot. The same name (James Abbot) appeared on the driver’s license when she freaked out. I thought this Henry Sullivan character was the one who abused her, but in the phone call she implies it was Dr. Abbot… IMHO Darling was about to commit suicide before the police arrived and found the dead body. After she breaks into the locked room and freaks out she destroys her clothes, puts on the up-side down cross necklace and heads for the roof.

>In my ignorance of Cthulhu mythos, I missed all of these connections and possible readings.

Well, tbh I would never have thought there was a link between Darling and Lovecraft if not for the image of Cthulhu.

In the Cthulhu Mythos there are esoteric, sinister and evil cults worshipping Cthulhu all over the world, but they are highly secretive and the general public remain in the dark. Some people may experience the effects of Cthulhu stirring and about to wake up, but have no idea what the cause is. If the film implies that it takes place within the Cthulhu Mythos, then either Darling or one of the previous caretakers, Madame or someone else connected to the house must know about Cthulhu, and presumably be connected to these cults.

If it is just there for ‘brand recognition’ then that clashes with the film’s 1950s aesthetic, since Lovecraft was very underground in the years following his death up till Stuart Gordon’s adaptation of ‘Herbert West – Reanimator’ in 1985. The book is right there in frame and in a lingering shot, so it must be there because of a reason…

>Honestly, at that point in the film it annoyed me. At the time of viewing it felt like another attempt to create dissonance/discord/unsettled atmosphere.

I think that is exactly what they were trying to achieve by that. There might be some deeper meaning behind the upside-down image we haven’t caught onto yet.

So, things we should look into further:

The lingering shots of the shower drain – It could be meant as the blood going down the drain feeding the evil of the house

The notebook(?) with the embossed Cthulhu head on the nightstand

The butterfly imagery

The shots of the NYC cityscape and in particular the up-side down one

Darling’s past and her connection to Henry Sullivan and Dr. Abbot


 No.650

>>648

I think I'm going to try another file because despite this one showing the most seeds, they aren't getting online.

I won't be able to watch it until Wednesday at night though (midterms).


 No.651

>>650

No worries. Good luck with your midterms! Also just sent you mail re adding pages to my board.

- /sapphic/ BO


 No.652

I have the film, hooray!

>>651

>Good luck with your midterms!

Thanks man!

>Also just sent you mail re adding pages to my board.

I'll check it and see what I can help you with.


 No.653

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>>652

Neat-o! Looking forward to reading your take on it, especially some of the more confusing aspects of it.

You doctor yet?


 No.654

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Look what I found, could be our next movie for the club after I get around watching Darling (provided we can find it easily).

Eric is the man, and at least I loved Commando.

I haven't watched trailers yet, just ran into the poster and thought it'd make a good candidate. It's probably direct-to-tv or something like that but I can see it being enjoyable.


 No.655

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>enter /tv/'s Catalogue

>see this

What does it mean, /bestemma/?


 No.656

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>>655

That the fine folks over at /tv/ need to get their priorities straight.


 No.658

>>655 (checked)

I think it means we share a spiritual bond with Maisiefag.


 No.659

>>649

>There is a character named Satans in it? Do you think that is where Tura Satana (Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!) got her name from?

Honestly had forgotten that character but I guess there is kek. Haven't seen Faster, Pusscat! Kill! Kill! in years! I imagine names like Satanas and Satana have been floating around in the ether for centuries.

>I thought this Henry Sullivan character was the one who abused her, but in the phone call she implies it was Dr. Abbot…

Does she? I read it as perhaps she killed Henry Sullivan (maybe/maybe not after suffering some kind of trauma by him) and was sent to the nut house for it where Dr. Abbot treated her. Didn't catch that her victim is also named Abbot. Coincidence? I guess that Sullivan is deceased by Madame's conversation "we know what you did" "what do you mean you saw him walking around?" "Did you do something to somebody?" I infer this as Madame knowing Sullivan is dead after finding out Darling's history from Abbot.

>The book is right there in frame and in a lingering shot, so it must be there because of a reason…

Agreed. Is it a book, or a cigarette case? Either way is it something that was already in the house or something Darling has brought in? Considering the history of the house I would guess it was already there with the necklace which gives credence to the idea of some kind of underground cult/shadowy group tied to the house. However looking back it's not there when she begins to unpack suggesting she brought it in with her.


 No.660

>>649

>The butterfly imagery

Got to admit my first thought when seeing all of the butterflies was Monarch but I would think in this it's more about the aesthetic of the house; elite, old fashioned, rich.

>Darling’s past and her connection to Henry Sullivan and Dr. Abbot

Do you think she escaped the nut house, was on some kind of release and went AWOL, or had been completely 'rehabilitated' and released?


 No.661

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>>659

>Haven't seen Faster, Pusscat! Kill! Kill! in years!

I DL’d it a while back, but I haven’t gotten around to seeing yet – is it any good? The clips and stills I have seen make it seem like a fun exploitation-y film, and Tura (and probably the two other chicks) seem like real femme fatales as well.

>Henry Sullivan/James Abbot & Dr. Abbot

She thought the guy she killed was Henry Sullivan, but his name is actually James Abbot, which is also the surname of the doctor who treated her. When she undresses to get in the shower we see that she has scares on her back/side – this must have been the result of the abuse she endured at the hands of doctor Abbot while was hospitalised (at a mental institution?).

So, she is in NYC, hoping to put the abuse and everything that happened behind her, and then, one day she sees a man who looks just like her tormentor – at least in her mind. She follows him, brings him home and kills him, only to discover that she’s killed an innocent guy. Either she is mad, or the house is messing with her mind/making her worse.

Given the dark history of the house it would make sense that the Cthulhu book was in the house, and that Darling found it like she found the upside-down cross necklace.

>>660

I thought the butterflies were a bit morbid – you kill them and put them on display behind glass to preserve their beauty. Butterflies are also associated with transformation and new life – emerging changed/new from the chrysalis. Maybe it symbolises Darling’s hope of a new life only to be trapped…

I’m not sure if she killed, maimed or harmed Dr. Abbot. Maybe she gave Dr. Abbot as her reference, and when Madame checked up on that (which she probably should have done before offering her the job), she found out that Darling had been in mental institution. It sounds weird that she would give him as her reference after killing him, but she isn’t acting rationally for most of the film, so it could be.

If she was released (even on probation), I think the dark energy of the house brought it all back and caused her to relapse and descend into madness.


 No.665

>>661

>it any good?

I saw it many many years ago. I don't remember anything, I believe I didn't get much out of it. I was much younger though so it might be different watching it now.

>Maybe she gave Dr. Abbot as her reference, and when Madame checked up on that (which she probably should have done before offering her the job), she found out that Darling had been in mental institution.

iirc Madame request contact details for the reference as she's leaving and Darling says they were strange and hadn't received her last pay check. So I guess the reference was just a name and she wasn't expecting it to be followed up on, but then Madame somehow found a way to get in touch and realised Darling had lied. Yep she most definitely should have checked the references before offering the job kek. Unless of course, she knew all along and is keeping up appearances.

>If she was released (even on probation), I think the dark energy of the house brought it all back and caused her to relapse and descend into madness.

Most definitely.

>Maybe it symbolises Darling’s hope of a new life only to be trapped…

Interesting.

>webm

I just knew that was going to happen.


 No.666

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>>665

>I don't remember anything, I believe I didn't get much out of it.

Aw schucks! The clips I have seen make it seem like a cool film, but I have been wrong before.

>Unless of course, she knew all along and is keeping up appearances.

If she really is a sinister figure who knows about the dark history of the house and the way if affects people, maybe she suspects that the house will call out to damaged individuals? It would be hard to imagine her not knowing there is something wrong about the house – or perhaps it only affects people who are damaged/have a dark side to them, and she is innocent after all…

Also, I found out yesterday that Madame is played by Sean Young who starred in the original Blade Runner! wew

It also struck me that there could be something to Darling ruining all her clothes with the scissors… Even if she were planning to jump, it seems strange that she would ruin all her clothes beforehand.

>I just knew that was going to happen.

Aw, you know me all too well it seems

Feast your eyes on these satanic trips

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 No.667

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>>666

Checking those devilish trips.

>Aw, you know me all too well it seems

Lol I meant when watching the film.

>It would be hard to imagine her not knowing there is something wrong about the house

Especially when she's talking to the latest caretaker at the end with this nonchalance. But you're right she could just be utterly naive.

>It also struck me that there could be something to Darling ruining all her clothes with the scissors… Even if she were planning to jump, it seems strange that she would ruin all her clothes beforehand.

Was thinking the same thing. What does it mean? Is it something like she's destroying her identity (represented by her clothes) after seeing inside the room because she has been completely taken over or controlled by some entity? Did she cut her clothes before or after the last phone call with Madame?

>Also, I found out yesterday that Madame is played by Sean Young who starred in the original Blade Runner! wew

It's great to see her still kicking it in the industry.


 No.668

>>654

>Look what I found, could be our next movie for the club after I get around watching Darling (provided we can find it easily).

I'm up for it.

t./sapphic/ BO


 No.670

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>>667

>Lol I meant when watching the film.

M-me too!

>Did she cut her clothes before or after the last phone call with Madame?

After cutting up the guy in the bathtub and putting him in a plastic bag she gets the phone call from Madame, then she breaks into the locked room and then she begins to cut her clothing to pieces. While she is doing this there are several whispering voices playing in the background – there are four actresses listed under ‘the voices’ in the end credits – this must be the previous tenants calling to her. I cranked up the volume to try and hear what the voices are saying, but it is in French.

I assume they are telling her to join them and jump, rather than warning her and telling her to get the hell outta there, but it would be nice to hear what they are actually whispering about.


 No.671

HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.

I was planning to watch Darling today but it was a busier day than I expected and I'll be away for a few days. I guess I could watch it on my tablet with headphones so that I can write a review before next Tuesday. Lynch would probably want to skin me alive for that though.

>>668

Great! I also checked out the trailer and it looks good, embed related. Reminds me a bit of The Guest or The Jackal.


 No.674

Trip got delayed, I have time to watch it right now.


 No.677

File: c7b75633d9c1777⋯.png (366.95 KB, 800x800, 1:1, david-lynch-oral-history-t….png)

>>671

>>674

Oh, you’ve dun it now, BO.


 No.678

>>670

>I cranked up the volume to try and hear what the voices are saying, but it is in French.

I searched for if anyone had translated online but no luck.


 No.679

File: deac1efdcc1e2df⋯.webm (7.84 MB, 720x430, 72:43, Darling (2015) – Voices.webm)

>>678

Aw, shucks! Maybe we could ask some Frenchfags? Darling’s hearing voices as she puts on the upside-down cross necklace too. She is interrupted from ruining the clothes by the negress and the police knocking on the door.

Did you catch who that unknown negress was?


 No.680

>>679

>Did you catch who that unknown negress was?

I recognised the cop as the motel owner from Like Me but have no idea who she is. Or do you mean as a character? I'm guessing she's a neighbour that Madame has trusted with another set of keys?


 No.681

>>679

Forgot to say, the whispering seems like it's saying pas' a lot and I think I heard rien'' so negations and nothing perhaps. Do we have any Frenchfags on /tv/?


 No.683

The movie was like a rolling coaster. Carpenter-tier tension. Fantastic style. And the masterful use of black and white greatly surprised me.

The silent film sequences were great too.

I'll review it more in depth later. Good catch with the cop by the way, I hadn't paid attention to it.

I couldn't help being reminded of The Neon Demon with the house, the mirror scene and the vomit scene.


 No.684

>>677

I watched it on my computer lol, no tablet.

I redeemed myself :^)


 No.685

>>680

>I'm guessing she's a neighbour that Madame has trusted with another set of keys?

Ah, that makes sense. I was really confused when she showed up with the cops out of the blue.

>>681

Maybe we should ask /r/? I'll look on MovieChat.org (and IMDb) later on to see if anyone mentioned the French voices.

>>684

You'll slip one day, and then David will be knocking on your door.


 No.690

>>615

In retrospect this post you made seems prophetical, wasn't it Cthulhu or something like that on the book on Darling's light table?


 No.691

File: 2791b7d799612e0⋯.png (1.05 MB, 1792x1072, 112:67, Darling.2015.1080p.BluRay.….png)

>>690

wew

I actually finished reading HPL’s The Call of Cthulhu yesterday, and I watched 2005 black & white silent film adaptation from 2005 as well. I hadn’t read the entire short story before, and I was surprised by how much I liked it – I had this notion that it was somewhat overrated compared to Lovecraft’s other work.

I am still somewhat puzzled by the appearance of the image of Cthulhu in the film, though there are bits and pieces that reminds me of HPL’s stories in it, but it feels disconnected.

As I was looking for info on the voices whispering in French I saw several users on MovieChat.org comment on the similarities between Darling and Roman Polanski’s Repulsion, several going as far as calling it plagiarism.

One user suggested that Darling was destroying her clothes because she is destroying her own self-image, feeling like there isn’t anything left of her after everything she’s suffered. I found a brilliant review/essay on The Neon Demon, and the blogger has also written about the recent surge in 1980s nostalgia in film and TV, and mentions Darling as ‘a composite of Polanski’s Repulsion (1967) and Rosemary’s Baby (1968).’

The Age of Imitation: A Primer of New American Nostalgia, 2007-2017 – Henri de Corinth: http://archive.is/B8Yxe


 No.692

File: fd2ca3cf5520d97⋯.webm (2.93 MB, 640x492, 160:123, LSJTD 21.webm)

>>691

>I watched 2005 black & white silent film adaptation from 2005 as well

Just realised I have this on my HDD but never watched it. Should I read the story first?

>I am still somewhat puzzled by the appearance of the image of Cthulhu in the film, though there are bits and pieces that reminds me of HPL’s stories in it, but it feels disconnected.

Perhaps it was just a nod from Keating to that universe or a hint that he wanted to create the same sense of creeping darkness? I still have yet to read any Lovecraft or related works, so am mostly blind in this regard.

>The Age of Imitation: A Primer of New American Nostalgia, 2007-2017 – Henri de Corinth

That article ended abruptly. I can see the resemblance to Repulsion (from what I can remember of it), but really don't see where he's getting Rosemary's Baby from.

I really enjoyed Let's Scare Jessica to Death and recommend if you haven't seen it. Sorry for no sound, I can't find my original cuts.


 No.693

File: 4e4a35c6b5d59f3⋯.jpg (32.79 KB, 480x413, 480:413, Pooh Cosmicism.jpg)

>>692

TCoC is actually a very nice entry into the Cthulhu Mythos/cosmic horror stories of HPL, and I’d recommend reading the story first. Though the film is quite good and a valiant effort, it is impossible to convey the cosmic horror on film/TV. To be fair though, the film goes for the same kind of 1920s horror as ‘Nosferatu – Eine Symphonie des Grauens’ and ‘Das Cabinet des Dr. Caligari’, but you can’t have Cthulhu show up on screen and expect the same feeling as you get when reading the story.

"The Call of Cthulhu" by H. P. Lovecraft: http://hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/cc.aspx

>Perhaps it was just a nod from Keating to that universe or a hint that he wanted to create the same sense of creeping darkness?

That could be it. That very scene could also be a nod to The Rats in the Walls, where the protagonist wakes up in the middle of the night, hearing the sound of rats in the walls, and sees the wallpaper move, as if there is something behind it. In that story the protagonist also goes mad, commits murder and cannibalism after moving into a house with a very dark past, as well as being traumatised by the death of his only child.

>I still have yet to read any Lovecraft or related works, so am mostly blind in this regard.

I was hoping to get a few anons from other boards to go thru Lovecraft’s works and discuss each story after we’ve read/reread it, but no luck so far. While I appreciate the work of the H. P. Lovecraft Literary Podcast (for the most part), the two hosts are deathly afraid and unwilling to take Lovecraft’s race-realist views and his opposition to non-Western immigration and race-mixing into consideration when they talk about the stories. Instead they brush it under the rug, ignore it outright or try to make fun of Lovecraft’s views altogether, and just call him a racist.

>I can see the resemblance to Repulsion (from what I can remember of it), but really don't see where he's getting Rosemary's Baby from.

I finished DL’ing Repulsion yesterday, but I have yet to see it. I haven’t seen any of Polanski’s films that I can remember, but I’ll see it and Rosemary’s Baby and judge them on their own, trying to ignore what I know about the director. I do know that Rosemary’s Baby has something to do about Satanism, and possibly the main character being paranoid and going mad(?) so that could be the connection mentioned in the blog article.

>I really enjoyed Let's Scare Jessica to Death and recommend if you haven't seen it.

Cheers! DL’ing it now! Hopefully it won’t be dubbed in Russian.


 No.694

>>643

>that she and the man were already dead and this was her reliving something over and over again.

The way I interpreted it was that there was a ghost in the house who implanted those memories, maybe there was a woman killed by this Henry Sullivan in the way Darling saw it. The ghost possesses the new occupiers and convinces them that some stranger is actually Henry.

>Was the drain in the shower indicative of something?It looks like it had been corroded with acid? Maybe evidence being wiped away previously?

Call me a simpleton (I tend to overuse Occam's razor and kill every hint of mysticism, you could say it's actually like the synthwave artist Occam's Laser) but I think it only means it's old as hell.

>>645

>Something that really stood out to me was the film insisting on this 1950s aesthetic all throughout, but still obviously set in the present day. It felt very disjointed – though that might have been what the director was going for, trying to create this sense that something is wrong. I think the director wanted so bad to set it in the 1950s, but that the budget didn’t allow for it. The shots of the New York skyline and concrete monstrosities that make it up were very atmospheric, but clashed with the ’50s aesthetic in a way that made it hard to suspend my disbelief. One scene in particular fell flat because of this – she is walking through the city and there is modern graffiti on the walls, I saw the word ‘fuck’ at least twice.

I liked it, I think it was done on purpose. The black and white shots of the skyline were striking. The massive concrete buildings are brutalist, look at this for example: http://archive.is/4KSuL

>The highlight of the film was Lauren Ashley Carter in the lead. I thought she did a fantastic job despite the very minimal use of dialogue to tell the story. In fact I was reminded by silent actress Theda Bara while watching her – she has the same dark aura and large, expressive eyes, and the film could have worked as a silent film IMHO, it has that quality to it, where it manages to tell the story through images rather than dialogue.

I agree, there's even silent cinema style scenes where music is the only thing heard and we see her screaming.

>For some reason the chapter titles were in German too.

I think the copy we got is to blame for that. The wikipedia article shows them in English. And it also provides an interesting translation of "Abyssus abyssum invocat". Look at this: http://archive.is/ZVfm5

Reading the wiki article I noticed something I had missed: The man she kills is called James Abbott, the same surname as Dr. Abbott (her psychiatrist?).

>Thankfully I know a little German so I was able to get it without having to look it up.

I'm a pleb so I had to look them up lol.

>The last(?) chapter even has the same title as one in ‘Valhalla Rising’.

Now THAT is interesting.

>who is herself empty and a void because of severe abuse and trauma

Was her empty? Or was that the ancient occupant and she implanted the void into Darling?

>or maybe the blood of her crimes is ‘feeding’ the void/house?

I love this theory

>When she wakes up at night we get a good glimpse at a book on her nightstand with an embossed image on the front. I am pretty sure that embossed image depicts Cthulhu’s head. Not sure what the significance is. Any ideas?

It probably signals that we're watching Lovecraftian kino :^)

>It seemed quite obvious that she had suffered some abuse in the past by someone named Henry Sullivan, and that she mistakes the man she meets in the street for her attacker. She checks his driver’s licence again later on and breaks down when she realises it is someone else. I also assume that the reason she freaks out upon forcing open the locked door is because the room is empty, and she realises it was all in her head. Unable to live with herself she goes up on the roof and jumps.

My thesis is that Henry Sullivan killed the original occupant of the house in the manner depicted in Darling's flashback, but that the flashback was of the ghost's that possesses the caretakers and makes them kill innocent people.

I'll reply to the rest in subsequent posts.


 No.695

About what I said here >>683, I loved how the contrast was used to create striking imagery. The high resolution B&W pictures are something I'm not used to, either. I wonder if it was shot digitally, because it was some of the best B&W cinematography I've seen. At one point I had to take a screenshot and check the colorimetry in Photoshop to see if it had some subtle off-white coloring, because of how natural it looks.

And in particular watching the gas stove flame in black and white was a unique experience, I had never seen that kind of flame in black and white.

There was one pet peeve I had though: whenever there was a shadow gradient it looked discrete rather than continuous, posterized. I think the encoder is to blame for this.

>>645

>Not sure what was up with the shower drain, but the film focused on it twice, I think, and it did not look like your average drain. She washes off the blood in the sink, and in the dream-sequence(?) where she is standing in the shower the blood is washed away and down the drain – maybe just her attempt at washing away her sins, or maybe the blood of her crimes is ‘feeding’ the void/house?

>It seemed quite obvious that she had suffered some abuse in the past by someone named Henry Sullivan, and that she mistakes the man she meets in the street for her attacker. She checks his driver’s licence again later on and breaks down when she realises it is someone else. I also assume that the reason she freaks out upon forcing open the locked door is because the room is empty, and she realises it was all in her head. Unable to live with herself she goes up on the roof and jumps.

I think there's a portal to hell in that room, and that she stared into the abyss, only to be stared back.

>>646

>Yes I think it could have benefited as a silent film. I imagine the unsettling factor would be increased.

I disagree, but maybe I'm too autistic to sit through one hour of silent film.

>Glad I'm not the only one. I wasn't sure if it was part of the film or a German version I had downloaded.

The wikipedia article has them in English so I think we all got a German copy.

>We never get to see what's in the room. When she opens the door she shrieks in terror, the light changes on her face as if something is swinging (the light bulb or something else), she steps back and then nods to whatever she is looking at. She also only jumps when the authorities come knocking at the door. So I'm not so sure the room is empty. If there is a lovecraftian connection, which fits with the void calls to void text, then I read it as there is indeed something in that house. Something dark and otherworldy that infects the caretakers.

I think there's an open portal to hell from the rituals described by James Abbott.


 No.696

>>647

>Most of her films are now lost because of a fire in the studio archives, which destroyed many silent films forever. Theda was the sex icon of the 1910s.

That's a disgrace. Weren't there any copies in cinemas or something like that?

>wew I was afraid it would sound pretentious.

Kek. Embrace the pretense, it makes our least welcome visitors mad.

>As for the Cthulhu connection… The title of the story is The Call of Cthulhu, so the Latin text could be a reference to this call or pull from beyond. In the story sensitive people (mostly artists), are the first to be affected by Cthulhu, in their dreams, as he is waking up from his slumber. Cthulhu is a used as a symbol of our own insignificance in the universe, our inability to fully comprehend the truth, and how easily we could be wiped out without of existence. In the story sensitive people (mostly artists), are the first to be affected by Cthulhu, in their dreams, as he is waking up from his slumber. Cthulhu is a used as a symbol of our own insignificance in the universe, our inability to fully comprehend the truth, and how easily we could be wiped out of existence. There is another Lovecraft story titled The Shunned House that deals with an abandoned house known for its dark history of bringing about sickness and death to its occupants, to the point that no one could endure living there any longer.

>I don’t remember the exact quote, but Madame mentions some some dark deed that took place in the house – a summoning of the Devil? Black Masses and rituals performed by cults is a common trope when it comes to Lovecraft’s work as well. The way Darling goes mad and commits suicide is similar to many of Lovecraft’s protagonists, who are unable to deal with the horrific truths they have uncovered about the world or themselves, and when drugs fail them, they either go mad or kill themselves.

It's great to have a Lovecraft connoisseur like you here, there's the meaning of Cthulthu on the bedside table.

>If there is something in the locked room it must have been Darling’s worst nightmare. She acted coldly and without any emotion when she murdered the man and cut him up in the bathroom, but whatever she saw, or thought she saw, in that room terrified her. As for Madame, I think she is a pawn in this, she has to make sure someone is living in the house. I doubt she ever stays there herself. Maybe she used to, and instead of driving her to suicide she became tool for the house to attract new occupants to ‘feed’ on.

Maybe Madame is a servant/avatar of the devil?

>Looking at the English chapter titles on Wikipedia, the fifth is ‘Inferno’, but the German title I saw was ‘Hölle’, which means ‘Hell’. What did you think of the upside-down shot of the NYC cityscape? Was it just meant to symbolise that her world has been turned upside down following the murder?

I'll have to rewatch that when I go back home but I didn't pay much attention to it when I first saw it.


 No.697

>>648

>Not at all, it adds depth to my understanding of the film. In my ignorance of Cthulhu mythos, I missed all of these connections and possible readings.

Seconded. Like I said, it's great to have a Lovecraft connoisseur on the board.

>Yes, I don't think she is an innocent character.

Me neither, in fact I think her mentions of the previous events are meant to get the mind of the new occupant primed for the "possession", if you will.

>>649

>If it is just there for ‘brand recognition’ then that clashes with the film’s 1950s aesthetic, since Lovecraft was very underground in the years following his death up till Stuart Gordon’s adaptation of ‘Herbert West – Reanimator’ in 1985. The book is right there in frame and in a lingering shot, so it must be there because of a reason…

Well, the film has strong 50s aesthetics but it doesn't really pretend to be set in the 50s so I think it's not really an issue. It's not like the pretentious "timeless" setting of "It Follows" that annoyed me to hell and back.

>The lingering shots of the shower drain – It could be meant as the blood going down the drain feeding the evil of the house

I associated it with the cleansing power of water, washing away the sin like in the rite of baptism.

>Darling’s past and her connection to Henry Sullivan and Dr. Abbot

Again I think Henry Sullivan was connected to a previous occupant.

>>653

>You doctor yet?

Not even close, I'm an undergrad lol. Not planning to pursue a PhD though, academic research isn't really something that I find appealing.

>>659

>Does she? I read it as perhaps she killed Henry Sullivan (maybe/maybe not after suffering some kind of trauma by him) and was sent to the nut house for it where Dr. Abbot treated her.

Interesting interpretation.

"The nut house" cracked me up too, kek.

>I infer this as Madame knowing Sullivan is dead after finding out Darling's history from Abbot.

Makes sense. A more malicious twist would be that Madame goes to psychiatrists to look for mentally unstable caretakers knowing full well that they'll go completely mad.

>Agreed. Is it a book, or a cigarette case? Either way is it something that was already in the house or something Darling has brought in? Considering the history of the house I would guess it was already there with the necklace which gives credence to the idea of some kind of underground cult/shadowy group tied to the house. However looking back it's not there when she begins to unpack suggesting she brought it in with her.

I assumed it was there. I wonder what was inside the box in the drawer though, the one in the first drawer she opens.

I think the "artifacts" are from the original occupier who performed rituals and some maybe from previous caretakers who brought them in or made them while possessed.

I immediately thought of the last suicide when I saw the inverted crucifix.

>>660

I missed the butterfly imagery altogether lol.

>Do you think she escaped the nut house, was on some kind of release and went AWOL, or had been completely 'rehabilitated' and released?

I assumed she was in treatment but not necessarily committed.

>>661

>She thought the guy she killed was Henry Sullivan, but his name is actually James Abbot, which is also the surname of the doctor who treated her. When she undresses to get in the shower we see that she has scares on her back/side – this must have been the result of the abuse she endured at the hands of doctor Abbot while was hospitalised (at a mental institution?).

Maybe Dr. Abbott was similar to Dr. Nyle? The plot thickens :^)

>So, she is in NYC, hoping to put the abuse and everything that happened behind her, and then, one day she sees a man who looks just like her tormentor – at least in her mind. She follows him, brings him home and kills him, only to discover that she’s killed an innocent guy. Either she is mad, or the house is messing with her mind/making her worse.

>Given the dark history of the house it would make sense that the Cthulhu book was in the house, and that Darling found it like she found the upside-down cross necklace.

I agree, with the subtle nuance that the abuse was actually endured by a previous occupier.

>I’m not sure if she killed, maimed or harmed Dr. Abbot. Maybe she gave Dr. Abbot as her reference, and when Madame checked up on that (which she probably should have done before offering her the job), she found out that Darling had been in mental institution. It sounds weird that she would give him as her reference after killing him, but she isn’t acting rationally for most of the film, so it could be.

>If she was released (even on probation), I think the dark energy of the house brought it all back and caused her to relapse and descend into madness.

Definitely, being in the house wrecked whatever semblance of sanity she had left.


 No.698

>>665

>So I guess the reference was just a name and she wasn't expecting it to be followed up on, but then Madame somehow found a way to get in touch and realised Darling had lied. Yep she most definitely should have checked the references before offering the job kek. Unless of course, she knew all along and is keeping up appearances.

I think Madame wanted her to do something nefarious before getting rid of her.

>Also, I found out yesterday that Madame is played by Sean Young who starred in the original Blade Runner! wew

WEWEWEW

>It also struck me that there could be something to Darling ruining all her clothes with the scissors… Even if she were planning to jump, it seems strange that she would ruin all her clothes beforehand.

I felt it was strange too, thought that maybe she was making a makeshift rope to hang herself or something like that.

>Feast your eyes on these satanic trips

Checked. Nice GET.

>>667

>Especially when she's talking to the latest caretaker at the end with this nonchalance. But you're right she could just be utterly naive.

Her "I shouldn't be telling you this" speech really makes me think that it's intentional, as I said earlier priming a vulnerable mind for being taken over.

>>670

>M-me too!

lel

>I assume they are telling her to join them and jump, rather than warning her and telling her to get the hell outta there.

Yeah, they're probably telling her to jump.

>>685

>You'll slip one day, and then David will be knocking on your door.

lel

>Ah, that makes sense. I was really confused when she showed up with the cops out of the blue.

>Ah, that makes sense. I was really confused when she showed up with the cops out of the blue.

Me too.

>Maybe we should ask /r/?

I'd rather live in ignorance lol.

>I'll look on MovieChat.org (and IMDb) later on to see if anyone mentioned the French voices.

Good idea, sadly I think the place is a desert nowadays. It never took off really.

>2005 black & white silent film adaptation

Wew, I didn't know silent films were still being made.

>One user suggested that Darling was destroying her clothes because she is destroying her own self-image, feeling like there isn’t anything left of her after everything she’s suffered. I found a brilliant review/essay on The Neon Demon, and the blogger has also written about the recent surge in 1980s nostalgia in film and TV, and mentions Darling as ‘a composite of Polanski’s Repulsion (1967) and Rosemary’s Baby (1968).’

Interesting, I'll check it out.

>I really enjoyed Let's Scare Jessica to Death and recommend if you haven't seen it. Sorry for no sound, I can't find my original cuts.

Interesting, will add it to my backlog.


 No.699

>>693

>Hopefully it won’t be dubbed in Russian.

kek, that was what happened to me with Like Me.

Maybe I should learn Russian for once and for all and embrace the language of the true pirate. After all, I've always wanted to speak Russian.


 No.702

HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.

Guys! Please tell me there is a rip of this with English subs. Macarena Gómez is just to die for – I have never seen a woman with eyes like hers before.


 No.703

File: f551c2fcd258940⋯.jpg (70.69 KB, 1206x720, 67:40, 237.jpg)

>>694

The translation to the Latin text you linked to is very interesting indeed!

<One misstep leads to another.

Either it could be taken as Darling’s past abuse and trauma catching up to her, or that when she ‘slips’ and kills the man everything comes falling down, and she cannot endure the consequences any longer.

>Was her empty? Or was that the ancient occupant and she implanted the void into Darling?

I’d say so – she is certainly mentally and physically scarred by the past, and she seems very affected by it. To me it seems like she’s put up all these walls to protect herself, but that there’s not much left on the inside. I did notice someone online commenting on the fact that the scarring we see on her side as she showers disappears later on; when she showers to wash off the blood after murdering and dismembering the man there are no traces left of her scars. Is it a goof, or is it meant to symbolise that the scars have healed/she’s put that behind her now that she’s gotten even (in her eyes)?

>My thesis is that Henry Sullivan killed the original occupant of the house in the manner depicted in Darling's flashback, but that the flashback was of the ghost's that possesses the caretakers and makes them kill innocent people.

Supposedly the criminal always return to the site of the crime…

The devil summoning that occurred in the house must be the ‘misstep’ meant in the Latin text; the house has become unlucky and dark deeds will continue to occur there forever.

I didn’t get any ghostly vibes from the film, even though the door opens and closes, which could be evidence of a ghost haunting the house.


 No.704

>>702

Fun fact: there's things lost in translation.

For example:

>Know what happens in the serial killer's world?

>Too much chauvinism.

Should be

>Know what happens in the serial killer's world?

>Too much male chauvinism.

(probably a joke on most movie serial killers being men).

>>703

>or that when she ‘slips’ and kills the man everything comes falling down, and she cannot endure the consequences any longer.

I favor this interpretation.

> I did notice someone online commenting on the fact that the scarring we see on her side as she showers disappears later on

Good catch!

>Is it a goof

It'd be disappointing if it was, but maybe it originated like that and then they decided to keep it? It ceases to be a goof at this point, if it was noticed during edition.

>The devil summoning that occurred in the house must be the ‘misstep’ meant in the Latin text; the house has become unlucky and dark deeds will continue to occur there forever.

That's a good take on it.

>I didn’t get any ghostly vibes from the film, even though the door opens and closes, which could be evidence of a ghost haunting the house.

I assumed the voices were ghosts and then you get stuff like the door that you mentioned.


 No.705

File: a22395b68ec498f⋯.jpg (31.94 KB, 500x752, 125:188, 600full-macarena-gómez.jpg)

File: 8ea068bf367ba76⋯.jpg (88.16 KB, 816x1227, 272:409, pic1_3241.jpg)

File: a879974fe9529af⋯.jpg (31.23 KB, 399x600, 133:200, Macarena_Gomez_119.jpg)

>>704

Aw, why didn’t I pay better attention in Spanish class? I can only hope the subs on the film are better. I tried looking for a physical copy to order, but all I could find was the soundtrack on CD – at an outrageous price as well.

>I assumed the voices were ghosts and then you get stuff like the door that you mentioned.

I just assumed the voices were her going completely insane, or the house itself urging her to an hero. The door actually opening/closing seems to indicate that there are ghosts there though, so now I am even more confused.


 No.706

>>705

>or the house itself urging her to an hero

This meme will never grow old for me lol.


 No.713

You guys won't believe what happened to me.

After two days of trying to get Hitman's run it turned out the thing was a Russian dub. Superimposed on the original audio, like they do with Scream Queens.


 No.714

>>713

Top kek. Why must finding obscure media online be so hard anons?


 No.716

File: 339a6cde71d510c⋯.gif (1001.74 KB, 500x332, 125:83, OGF.gif)

>>713

Make sure you check if there is an English audio track on the film before you delete it; when I DL’d The Neon Demon & the second season of Scream Queens the default audio was Russian, but thankfully whomever ripped it had included the English audio as a secondary audio track.

>Why must finding obscure media online be so hard anons?

It ain’t easy not being a (complete) pleb…


 No.718

>>714

Well, it wouldn't be obscure if it wasn't the case.

>>716

>Make sure you check if there is an English audio track on the film before you delete it; when I DL’d The Neon Demon & the second season of Scream Queens the default audio was Russian, but thankfully whomever ripped it had included the English audio as a secondary audio track.

I had already deleted it when you posted this. But I had already checked too.

>It ain’t easy not being a (complete) pleb…

kek

I guess I'll give it another try with other version and if not I will rent it on Amazon. At least I'll be making a small contribution to the hardest working family in Hollywood. It's just two bucks.


 No.728

File: 82789d48f5f4faa⋯.jpg (35.03 KB, 640x480, 4:3, b0ece344eaf6254a1d302bde3e….jpg)

So… when we doing this, fellas?


 No.729

>>728

Still trying to find a copy


 No.730

>>728

Nice rare Eric, saved.

>>729

Are you HD pic anon? BO here. Look for

Заказанный убийца / Hitman's Run (Марк Л. Лестер / Mark L. Lester) [1999, США, Боевик, WEB-DL] AVO (Ю. Сербин) + Original Eng


 No.731

>>730

Also the site is torrent-kino.org


 No.732

>>730

Didn't get any hits for that. Finally found a copy but it's overdubbed in Russian and no separate english track.


 No.733

>>732

Did you search in torrent-kino.org?


 No.734

>>732

Try searching for Заказанный убийца in torrent-kino.org.

Then pick the one with the filename I posted in >>730 from the list.


 No.735

File: c9d0f03521408ed⋯.png (340.28 KB, 640x480, 4:3, Bang!.png)

What a ride that was! I unironically enjoyed the hell outta this film. More than enough unintended(?) comedy, shoot-outs and car chases to keep my attention, and that late ’90s look and feel hit that sweet spot for me.

That guy playing Paolo was so over the top, he stole pretty much every scene he was in, especially when he tore down and paintings on the wall and flipped the fucking table in a fit of rage – Tommy Wiseau could not have done it better, and I actually laughed out load at that part.

That entire bomb disposal scene was just out of this world. It would have been nice if John/Tony commented on Brian’s age though – the ‘kid’ is the oldest seventeen-year-old I have seen in a while.


 No.736

>>735

Man, I didn't think you would already watch it lol.

I was waiting for the other anons to confirm they have it.

I have a deadline tomorrow with which I need to comply but I'll be watching it tomorrow at night.


 No.737

>>734

>Заказанный убийца

I am an idiot. I went through all the steps earlier but forgot my script blocker was on so the torrents weren't showing. Got it loaded now just waiting for it to pick up seeds.


 No.738

File: 18cd5dd14bab6d0⋯.webm (8.21 MB, 640x480, 4:3, Hitman's Run (1999) – Hot….webm)

>>736

Yeah, luckily my copy had dual Ukrainian and English audio!


 No.739

>>737

Wahoo, got it. Might watch tonight.


 No.741

>>739

BING! BING!

Great news! I'll be watching it tonight too, starting in a few minutes.

>>737

Funny.

>>738

>Hothead

wew

I won't watch the webm until I've watched the movie to avoid getting spoilered.


 No.742

File: 53237125fc1aa85⋯.png (372.92 KB, 640x480, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

BO here, just started watching.

The Twin Towers really date a film don't they?

Also I'm loving the aesthetics already, look at those gorgeous colors.


 No.743

File: dbc91b16511486d⋯.webm (4.72 MB, 1288x1080, 161:135, that_was.webm)

>>735

I'll let the queen of /tv/ voice my general feelings about the movie and then elaborate.

It was a late 90s movie but I felt like it had all the 80s goodness to it. The shooting style, the music, the environments. Just fantastic. Even the club was like what you'd see in an 80s action movie.

The car explosion was just incredible, I never expected it. It had to be tongue-in-cheek, there's no other explanation.

That scene you posted was fantastic, another example of 80s style. Reminded me a bit of Lethal Weapon.

The execution in the beginning during the bad daydream was Carpenter tier, like what you'd see in Assault on Precinct 13.

The driving was a very pleasant surprise, we see Eric (or likely his stunt double, but it doesn't matter) doing Scandinavian flicks. And full-size American sedans go with Eric like teal goes with mauve. In Justified he drove a Mercury Grand Marquis and it suited him well too. Recommended series by the way.

Then there's the AK-47 with a sniper scope. I mean, I guess it'd be workable but I expected something more precise.

Brian's phreaking was a nice touch too, although a bit unrealistic. But the CIA phreaking reminded me of the typical "use a landline" trope. Today it's still possible to eavesdrop in cellular networks, but it's much harder. Back in the age of early digital phones it was much easier than today.

It had hotheads (don't forget that Paolo's henchman almost kills Brian in the beginning and also gets called a Jello head by him), CIA carrying out some egregious acts, their flight plan crashing with no survivors, it was pretty damn great.

The shooting scenes were hilarious in a good way. I couldn't believe how bad the bad guys were at aiming, lol.

The kid that wouldn't shut up, the smart smuggling scheme, the shots with palm trees and water, the one-liners. It reminded me of Miami Vice (the original series), Scarface, Carlito's Way.

And I feel like it might have influenced Die Hard 4.0. Kid hacker gets into the FBI system and is saved by a badass, the kid even hardwiring cars in the movie? Too many coincidences for me.

While I wouldn't regard the movie as pushing the boundaries of cinema or anything like that, it was very enjoyable and I loved it from start to end. And despite the unrealistic bits, I was immersed during the whole thing. I believe the aesthetics might have played a good part in that, the way colors look, the subtle film grain, the framerate and even the low resolution put me in a mood where suspension of disbelief hits its maximum potential. It was charming, it was relatable, it was entertaining and it was a beautiful film.


 No.744

File: 6ac313d47661861⋯.jpg (30.68 KB, 500x335, 100:67, 7a9f3f8a-506e-4cd4-b488-2e….jpg)

>>743

I got the 1980s cop/action film feeling too; it reminded me of Miami Vice as well – the plot, the clothes and the setting. The bad guys were about as good shots as stormtroopers from Star Wars. I wouldn’t go as far as saying it came off as a parody, but it definitely felt like a tongue-in-cheek tribute/loveletter to films and TV shows from the 1980s more than a ’90s action B-movie.

There is no way this wasn’t intentionally made to be a tongue-in-cheek 1980s flick, with all the stereotypes you can think of in there. The acting was over the top throughout, especially the mafia guys, who often stole the scenes – the beige suits, garishly-coloured ties, slicked back hair and though-guy talk… Pure fried gold.

The PTSD/flashback scene early on was another highlight, and the shootout where the car comes speeding down the alley, yet never seems to get close to Tony/John had me smiling.


 No.745

File: 39b8aa6d24c8d9c⋯.webm (1.4 MB, 1280x688, 80:43, Hard_Boiled.webm)

>>744

>I got the 1980s cop/action film feeling too; it reminded me of Miami Vice as well – the plot, the clothes and the setting.

Definitely. It might be supposed to be New Jersey but it surely felt like Miami.

> I wouldn’t go as far as saying it came off as a parody, but it definitely felt like a tongue-in-cheek tribute/loveletter to films and TV shows from the 1980s more than a ’90s action B-movie.

Definitely. And it had nothing to envy to many well-loved 80s action high budget movies.

>The bad guys were about as good shots as stormtroopers from Star Wars.

Indeed, lol.

> the shootout where the car comes speeding down the alley, yet never seems to get close to Tony/John had me smiling.

That too, how could I forget to mention that?

Reminded me of webm related.


 No.746

File: 26d0f642a5761e2⋯.mp4 (5.02 MB, 640x480, 4:3, jellohead.mp4)

>>744

Also another thing I found rather comfy was the sight of early blocky notebook computers. Small details like that really make these retro movies for me.

The shots of the suburban neighborhood and the inside of the house really enhance the retro qualities of the film.


 No.747

File: bc2dc8be8df73b4⋯.jpg (114.56 KB, 501x751, 501:751, conspiracy_theory.jpg)

File: fa28cd180afb7b4⋯.mp4 (15.69 MB, 960x400, 12:5, Mel plays a humble water f….mp4)

When asked about movies where certain groups expose themselves an anon from /tv/ posted this poster with this description (edited to remove his conclusions which could spoiler the film):

>CIA agents lose control over their pet project and panic, leading to bigger mess ups.

It stars Mel Gibson and our muse's aunt Julia. Mel plays a taxi driver with Alex Jones tier theories, down to talking about fluoride in the water. Video is the opening scene. Plenty of neon and Michael Mann tier aesthetics.

Looks like a solid candidate to continue with the CIA theme, what do you guys think?


 No.749

>>742

>Also I'm loving the aesthetics already, look at those gorgeous colors.

It was so refreshing to watch a movie without a coloured tint the whole way through.


 No.750

File: 96ffee85d905ed5⋯.webm (574.73 KB, 720x542, 360:271, Hitman's Run - Come on.webm)

>>746

A WHOLE 650MB. I loved that scene. Oh Eric! He has such an awkward gate and movements I loved it. Also enjoyed the use of squibs and the random exploding car!


 No.751

File: 96c6f0031c559e7⋯.jpg (109.7 KB, 750x563, 750:563, floppy.jpg)

>>747

>Julia Roberts

>Alex Jonesian conspiracy theories

>neon-lit streets at night

What's not to like?

>>749

Hear, hear! I can't stand that colour "correction" shit tbh.

>>750

>>746

I've got one of those early notebook laptops somewhere in my room, including all the power cables and even a pro bag to keep it in for traveling. Too bad it won't start anymore. It worked when I first got a hold of it tho - good ol' Win 95.


 No.755

File: f84d953cf84ef1c⋯.jpg (896.16 KB, 1320x1488, 55:62, t2 terminator.jpg)

>>749

Not only that, but the film stock they used has a very pleasing color response. It's similar to the one that George P. Cosmatos used in Cobra.

>>750

It was pure cheesy goodness.

>>751

>What's not to like?

And Mel Gibson on top of all that.

Seems like we might have found the next movie to watch, let's wait for webmanon's input.

>Hear, hear! I can't stand that colour "correction" shit tbh.

The pukey green in modern films is disgusting. And even worse, they're messing with old movies too, "modernizing" them. Color grading, dynamic noise reduction, they even mess with the lighting. Have you seen the screencaps from the latest Terminator BluRay? Also Predator got denoised to hell and now the actors look like wax statues.

>I've got one of those early notebook laptops somewhere in my room, including all the power cables and even a pro bag to keep it in for traveling. Too bad it won't start anymore. It worked when I first got a hold of it tho - good ol' Win 95.

Cool. The dad of one of my buddies used to have an Acer back in the day, I remember it needed a PCMCIA modem to be inserted in it to access the internet. Was a cool thing back in the day. Pointing sticks were everywhere too.

Maybe yours could boot if you replaced the CMOS cell? It would be a cool thing to have around I think.

Maybe you could make some retro hackerkino with it.


 No.757

>>755

>Have you seen the screencaps from the latest Terminator BluRay?

Rekt.

>Seems like we might have found the next movie to watch, let's wait for webmanon's input.

>Seems like we might have found the next movie to watch, let's wait for webmanon's input.

All for it.


 No.759

>>757 (Checking those Boeing digits)

Fantastic! We've got ourselves the next movie to watch then.

We could schedule We're the Flesh too for the following movie to watch after we're done with this one.


 No.762

File: f5439e6d405341c⋯.png (19.18 KB, 100x150, 2:3, ClipboardImage.png)

Today I went to rarbg to look for a torrent for Vanishing Point to give a /tv/ anon and found this in recommended torrents.


 No.763

File: ed55841ff84c4bf⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 116.52 KB, 640x265, 128:53, ClipboardImage.png)

>>762

Then I clicked it and found this screencap.

Guys, I think I know which movie comes after We're the Flesh.

This duo is too great to pass.


 No.764

File: 5d1f3d5b5468307⋯.webm (1.7 MB, 480x480, 1:1, what_people_think_the_dee….webm)

>>755

Oy vey! Think I'll stick to my DVDs of Terminator & Predator till they release an unfucked version then. I think they ruined the LotR films on Blu-ray with that too.

>Maybe yours could boot if you replaced the CMOS cell? It would be a cool thing to have around I think.

It would be nice to have a working Win 95 laptop. I've got another laptop with XP as well, but I haven't used it in years. Got another PC up in the attic, along with a Commodore 64 I got from my uncle (along with a carrierbag with games - on these massive diskettes, not the usual ones on tape).

>Maybe you could make some retro hackerkino with it.

That does sound interesting... It'd be nice to see a "scientifically accurate" '90s hacker film.

>>759

>We could schedule We're the Flesh too for the following movie to watch after we're done with this one.

Phew! Good thing I haven't seen it yet then. It's been in my DL folder for a while now, adding to my already massive backlog.

>>762

>>763

My, my... What do we have here?


 No.765

File: 42c10a518fd393d⋯.gif (463.74 KB, 500x433, 500:433, lxmcFQHrkfic.gif)

>>764

>that webm

Really hacks into my mainframe :^)

>Oy vey! Think I'll stick to my DVDs of Terminator & Predator till they release an unfucked version then. I think they ruined the LotR films on Blu-ray with that too.

You can sometimes be safe if you get the older BluRays too, it's usually the recent ones that are a problem.

What happens is that they digitally "restore" a scan instead of restoring the original film stock, which is a lot more expensive. That way they get rid of grain and satisfy the sharpness-hungry consumers who don't know better. Sometimes you can even get the older release for cheaper. For example I read on comingsoon.net that the original Predator release was like 11.99 bucks on Amazon and the remastered one 21.99 bucks. That was in 2010 though.

Here's an interesting insight on that, it also mentions The Godfather Collection, which underwent a real restoration procedure. http://archive.is/WBxsZ

>It would be nice to have a working Win 95 laptop.

Indeed, if just for the retro appeal.

>I've got another laptop with XP as well, but I haven't used it in years. Got another PC up in the attic, along with a Commodore 64 I got from my uncle (along with a carrierbag with games - on these massive diskettes, not the usual ones on tape).

You mean 5¼ floppy discs? Or did it use the 8 inch ones? I remember the 5¼s from my early childhood, but I never saw the huge ones. From the time they were actually floppy lol, then the 3½ made everything stiff. I remember lusting after zip drives, having 100 megabytes of modifiable data in a removable disc seemed like a huge deal to me.

>That does sound interesting... It'd be nice to see a "scientifically accurate" '90s hacker film.

Indeed, or just a film with period props where a character is a hacker. Can be done way over the top too like Kung Fury did.

>Phew! Good thing I haven't seen it yet then. It's been in my DL folder for a while now, adding to my already massive backlog.

Nice

>My, my... What do we have here?

I think we got ourselves what I call a must-watch.


 No.768

File: d63bad28d9e42d7⋯.gif (1.29 MB, 540x222, 90:37, maisie elle.gif)

>>765

>I think we got ourselves what I call a must-watch.

Agreed.

t.webmanon


 No.769

>>768

Oh God, that scene has hyped me even more.


 No.770

File: 8a8cabeff2b9387⋯.jpg (217.54 KB, 670x377, 670:377, the-neon-demon-premiere.jpg)

>>765

>Really hacks into my mainframe :^)

Thru the backdoor?

They're coming outta the goddamn firewalls!

>What happens is that they digitally "restore" a scan instead of restoring the original film stock, which is a lot more expensive.

wew

I think Arrow does a great job with their restorations/Blu-ray releases; I haven’t seen their Blu-ray release of Carpenter’s The Thing, but the restoration was overseen and approved by Carpenter himself, so I guess they spared no expenses on that.

The Predator Blu-ray looks godawful! What the hell were they thinking?

>You mean 5¼ floppy discs?

Yeah, the 5¼" ones for the Commodore 1541 Floppy Drive. Only one of the games is original (Dragon’s Lair from 1983, the other floppies are copied, and the title is written on a label on the floppy. The 1541 was released in 1982, so this is some old skool shit… According to Wikipedia it has a storage of 170kb, and the floppies can store a whopping 170kb as well.

I’ve got a tiny floppy drive that connect via USB somewhere around too, in case I want to look at the regular floppies I have from the good ol’ days.

>>768

Neat! Hopefully there is a better rip out there than the one I have found so far, a '1080p' 727mb .avi…


 No.771

>>770

>Neat! Hopefully there is a better rip out there than the one I have found so far, a '1080p' 727mb .avi…

Try Mary.Shelley.2017.WEB-DL.x264-FGT


 No.772

File: f4690757a5c5aec⋯.gif (2.01 MB, 360x180, 2:1, Heil!.gif)

>>771

𝔚𝔲𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔯𝔟𝔞𝔯

When are we watching Conspiracy Theory?


 No.774

>>772

I was planning to watch it in a few minutes.


 No.775

File: eee9ffe8603aef7⋯.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 4.25 MB, 1920x800, 12:5, cia niggers.mp4)

This movie is packed with more memes than I expected, I'm having a great time with it.

Spoilers in the video.


 No.776

File: 22c2873224d4db5⋯.png (1.52 MB, 1920x800, 12:5, black helicopters.png)

Damn, that was some film!

It truly gets you to feel like Jerry and to love and want to protect Alice. And I'll be damned if the movie didn't give me a heartache multiple times.

I don't want to spoil anything but I gotta say it played me like a damn fiddle.

I gotta say I never trusted the CIA nigger though. And I didn't expect to find so many similarities to Beyond the Black Rainbow. The plot twist in the end reminded me of The Guest (and so did the fireman scene) and I was hoping for a twist where Jerry turns out to be still alive but didn't believe it would be the case. Seems like "all roads lead to Rome" is specially true when we're talking about the /bestemma/ movie club.

There was definitely an intentional Taxi Driver vibe to the whole thing. It was like "what if Travis Bickle was a MK Ultra subject but he was a hero instead of a murderer?

And risking sounding like a hothead, can we change the schedule and watch The Blackcoat's Daughter next instead of the ones we had planned? I feel like it would fit better thematically with the movies we've been watching.

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 No.778

File: 89c4ab9801ab1cb⋯.webm (5.72 MB, 722x300, 361:150, Ape Alert.webm)

>>775

The escape sequence after that scene was hilarious.

>>776

The silent choppers kek.

>And I didn't expect to find so many similarities to Beyond the Black Rainbow

Such as?

I have to admit that the 'Mel does his crazy eyes' routine got a little tiresome and at points I just wanted to shout "Just spit it out already, get to the point!" But mostly when he was being cutesy with Julia all I could hear was ape like breathing and someone screeching BLOW ME

>can we change the schedule and watch The Blackcoat's Daughter next instead of the ones we had planned? I feel like it would fit better thematically with the movies we've been watching.

I'd be happy with that. Just got to get a copy.


 No.781

File: 09b94dbde2a69a3⋯.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 10.59 MB, 1920x800, 12:5, (((they))).mp4)

>>778

>The escape sequence after that scene was hilarious.

It was, and it was really nice action too. I greatly enjoyed it. You rarely see movies as immersive as this nowadays.

>The silent choppers kek.

That was a really nice touch. Whisper mode.

>I have to admit that the 'Mel does his crazy eyes' routine got a little tiresome and at points I just wanted to shout "Just spit it out already, get to the point!" But mostly when he was being cutesy with Julia all I could hear was ape like breathing and someone screeching BLOW ME

That webm had me in stitches, kek.

>Such as?

>One is a MK Ultra subject (Jerry) and the other is a subject in a MK Ultra-like program (Elena). One is a researcher in MK Ultra (Dr. Jonas) and the other a researcher in a MK Ultra-like program (Dr. Barry Nyle)

>Cartoons are used in their conditioning

>Both treasure a photograph

>The importance of identity is highlighted in both. So is erasure of identity. When asked "Who are you?" by Alice, he can't respond easily. Although maybe in this case it was closer to what we saw in Hitman's Run, it's not easy telling someone that you're an assassin.

>Both escape a mental institution and even a tracker device is used on them by their creators, although Jerry didn't have a tracker injected.

>Both cause the death of their creators, albeit Elena managed to do it all by herself.

>Both are only violent in self-defense

Of course there's great differences between them, but I didn't expect so many similarities. For all I knew, I was basically going to watch "Alex Jones gets it right and CIA niggers try to kill him".

And if we push it, you can also find similarities to The Guest.

>character is a programmed assassin who has escaped his masters

>he uses a fire to escape his captors and pretends to be a fireman

>leaves a body trail wherever they try to catch him

>he's shown to be dead but it turns out he's not

>I'd be happy with that. Just got to get a copy.

Fantastic! I also just realized that once we watch that, we'll have completed a cycle of Eric-Julia-Emma. That's the same chronological order in which they made it to the film industry.

And there's another thing, the movies are:

>CIA

>Mentally unsound person vs CIA

>Mentally unsound person

It wraps up beautifully.


 No.784

File: 6603e7cd9e6f44f⋯.png (1.02 MB, 1280x536, 160:67, In this issue.png)

File: 726b61c5490f903⋯.png (1.08 MB, 1280x536, 160:67, Global Fund for Mergers an….png)

File: d2dfbcb02ec62e4⋯.jpg (105.23 KB, 1024x669, 1024:669, julia-roberts-conspiracy-t….jpg)

>>775

Do they glow in the dark though?

Just finished Conspiracy Theory – a bit overdue.

I was surprised by the legitimately funny scenes, such as Jerry escaping in the wheelchair while high on gov’ment ‘gravy’ and screaming his lungs out, and the payoff of him attaching the wire to the gov’ment car as they take off to follow the bus. The wheelchair scene actually had me laughing out loud at the sheer absurdity of it. Glad to see I’m not the only one who found it hilarious, it would have been somewhat awkward if everyone else thought it was really tense and dramatic, and I was the only one laughing at it.

I noticed the obvious similarity between David’s escape in The Guest dressed as a firefighter as well as the top secret gov’ment program to create a super soldier gone wrong.

IMHO it falls apart with the stable scene – from then on it has all the worn-out Hollywood clichés you can think of.

That lengthy ‘death scene’ as she cradles him even manages to rival the infamous scene in the third season of Carmilla.

As for the graveyard scene – I was expecting it to be shown to be her father’s grave, not Jerry’s grave, and he would be in the parked car, waiting for her.

I’ve gotta say though, I did not buy Alice trusting Jerry after he took the gun from the guard and all the gov’ment agencies wanted to get a hold of him – and I simply could not buy her believing him when he told her did not kill her father in the stables – he was there with a gun, he was obsessed with her, and he was part of the MKUltra Project, but he totally dindu nuffin – he a good boy. I thought she trusted him far to easily, and it hurt her character.

>>781

>(((they))).mp4

wew

I didn’t see it, but now that you’ve pointed it out it is quite obvious – probably not what the writer/director intended, but still. It is extra funny since it comes from Mel.

>>778

>I just wanted to shout "Just spit it out already, get to the point!"

Hear, hear! Not only did it make him so unhinged there is no way she would believe him, or trust him, but it came off as a cheap way for the writer to prolong the ambiguity of whether or not he’s telling the truth about the conspiracies.

Did not care much for the conspiracies either – NASA trying to kill the president? UFOs? Space shuttles causing earthquakes? Please, even Alex Jones’ theories make more sense/are more believable than this. If Jerry had been more into more plausible conspiracies I could see her being more willing to listen to him.

Julia is a total qt 3,14 though – hopefully Emma will age as gracefully as her. Now I kinda wanna see more of her films – maybe Erin Brockovich?

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 No.785

File: 233dc5c48404783⋯.gif (665.43 KB, 300x200, 3:2, 1505208929263.gif)

>>784

>mfw I saw "Mergers and Aqcuisitions"

I'll read your post and answer in detail


 No.786

File: afbafb09a125617⋯.png (9.1 MB, 3275x2193, 3275:2193, ClipboardImage.png)

>>784

>it would have been somewhat awkward if everyone else thought it was really tense and dramatic, and I was the only one laughing at it.

I thought it was both things lol

>IMHO it falls apart with the stable scene – from then on it has all the worn-out Hollywood clichés you can think of.

>That lengthy ‘death scene’ as she cradles him even manages to rival the infamous scene in the third season of Carmilla.

I agree, but I loved it nevertheless.

>As for the graveyard scene – I was expecting it to be shown to be her father’s grave, not Jerry’s grave, and he would be in the parked car, waiting for her.

I'd have loved that to happen.

>I’ve gotta say though, I did not buy Alice trusting Jerry after he took the gun from the guard and all the gov’ment agencies wanted to get a hold of him

I think that the alphabet soup agencies showing up made him suddenly a lot more trustworthy than he seemed when he was the wacko conspiracy theorist.

>– and I simply could not buy her believing him when he told her did not kill her father in the stables – he was there with a gun, he was obsessed with her, and he was part of the MKUltra Project, but he totally dindu nuffin – he a good boy. I thought she trusted him far to easily, and it hurt her character.

I don't know, it seemed believable to me. Are you sure he had a gun though?

>I didn’t see it, but now that you’ve pointed it out it is quite obvious – probably not what the writer/director intended, but still. It is extra funny since it comes from Mel.

It obviously didn't mean that, but using the meme retroactively makes it hilarious. And Mel being the one who says it definitely makes it extra dank.

>Hear, hear! Not only did it make him so unhinged there is no way she would believe him, or trust him, but it came off as a cheap way for the writer to prolong the ambiguity of whether or not he’s telling the truth about the conspiracies.

To me it reflected how broken he was by the MK Ultra conditioning. We saw something similar when he lost control of his cab after watching the welder.

>Did not care much for the conspiracies either – NASA trying to kill the president? UFOs? Space shuttles causing earthquakes? Please, even Alex Jones’ theories make more sense/are more believable than this. If Jerry had been more into more plausible conspiracies I could see her being more willing to listen to him.

I think the plan was to cause an Earthquake and the president himself was part of the conspiracy to avoid suspicion.

>Julia is a total qt 3,14 though – hopefully Emma will age as gracefully as her. Now I kinda wanna see more of her films – maybe Erin Brockovich?

Agreed. Maybe we could watch Mystic Pizza (pic related) to prime ourselves for the moment when Little Italy comes out?

Also while looking for information on the movie this came up, I'm not sure if it will be part of the actual movie or if it's just promotion - http://archive.is/v3s9Q

The director is also the same (I just skimmed through the article in between writing parts of this post and I'm still finding stuff in it).


 No.794

File: 6f7c6547493ecbd⋯.webm (9.47 MB, 720x406, 360:203, Banshee Chapter (2013) – ….webm)

File: c84ddf2706f3e6f⋯.jpg (317.78 KB, 820x1065, 164:213, 91taaxx7sil-_aa1500_.jpg)

>>786

>I'd have loved that to happen.

Meh, I'm OK with the ending we got; maybe it would've been too clichéd?

>Are you sure he had a gun though?

101% - he held the two guards at gunpoint and told the other guard to drop his firearm as well.

>It obviously didn't mean that

Don't be too certain - maybe there's a writer dropping some subtle, very sweetened redpills?

>To me it reflected how broken he was by the MK Ultra conditioning.

Speaking of Project MKUltra… There is a horror film that is all about that, and even slightly Lovecraftian – one of the characters even namedrops Lovecraft at one point, and talks about the story ‘From Beyond’, where a scientist manages to make a machine that allows us to see/experience lifeforms from another dimensional planes occupying the same space as us. In the intro they even use actual archive footage related to Project MKUltra.

>I think the plan was to cause an Earthquake and the president himself was part of the conspiracy to avoid suspicion.

Ah, that makes perfect sense.

For what prupose though?

>Mystic Pizza & Little Italy

Neat! Julia looks absolutely stunning in the photo you posted, and she looks equally stunning next to Emma.

Could Hayden look any more like Johnny Knoxville on that poster? It is good to see him in films again – he’s got that Brendan Fraser-feel IMHO.


 No.795

>>794

>Meh, I'm OK with the ending we got; maybe it would've been too clichéd?

I think you're right. (to be read in Sam Hyde's voice)

>101% - he held the two guards at gunpoint and told the other guard to drop his firearm as well.

Oh, I misinterpreted your post and thought you meant he had a gun at the stable. I was afraid he'd fire accidentally during the gun scene. He was a nervous wreck and his finger was on the trigger.

>Don't be too certain - maybe there's a writer dropping some subtle, very sweetened redpills?

That would be indeed beautiful, but I doubt that's what they meant.

>Speaking of Project MKUltra… There is a horror film that is all about that, and even slightly Lovecraftian – one of the characters even namedrops Lovecraft at one point, and talks about the story ‘From Beyond’, where a scientist manages to make a machine that allows us to see/experience lifeforms from another dimensional planes occupying the same space as us. In the intro they even use actual archive footage related to Project MKUltra.

Interdasting

>Ah, that makes perfect sense.

>For what purpose though?

Economic turmoil? Destabilization?

>Neat! Julia looks absolutely stunning in the photo you posted, and she looks equally stunning next to Emma.

Indeed!

>Could Hayden look any more like Johnny Knoxville on that poster?

lol, those guys are crazy

>It is good to see him in films again – he’s got that Brendan Fraser-feel IMHO.

I haven't seen any films with him. As for the Brendan feel, his relationship even broke up recently. And they decided to make our muse their scapegoat.


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>>795

>Oh, I misinterpreted your post and thought you meant he had a gun at the stable.

Nah, he did have a weapon the first time he visited the stables (or the surroundings) when he first saw Alice which kept him from killing her dad, but not when he met with her father at a later occasion in the stables.

>Interdasting

No, not really. I was not impressed by the film tbh. It tries to present some scenes as actual Project MKUltra later on, but it is so obviously faked on a low budget I don't get why they even bothered. Ted Levine's character is a lot of fun though, he almost makes it worth watching.

>I haven't seen any films with him.

Who? Hayden or Brendan? I actually really liked Jumper with Hayden - great supporting cast, and just a lot of fun. Sad to hear about his relationship ending - do you think he and Emma got a little too friendly on set?


 No.800

>>799

>Who? Hayden or Brendan? I actually really liked Jumper with Hayden - great supporting cast, and just a lot of fun.

Hayden. Films like The Mummy were my childhood lol.

>Sad to hear about his relationship ending - do you think he and Emma got a little too friendly on set?

I think she probably did nothing wrong and that Hayden's ex was looking for an excuse to whore around.


 No.801

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>>781

Nice catches of the similarities. Can especially see the parallels with The Guest.

>It wraps up beautifully.

Indeed. Also if we watch Mystic Pizza' it has Lilly Taylor in it who was also in a movie with Mel Ransom''.

>>784

>IMHO it falls apart with the stable scene – from then on it has all the worn-out Hollywood clichés you can think of.

One thing I didn't understand is how the spooks got the names and addresses of the other 4 subscribers to the newsletter when only Julia had the list after Mel incinerated his apartment.

>I thought she trusted him far to easily, and it hurt her character.

Like her swapping the charts!


 No.803

>>801

>Nice catches of the similarities. Can especially see the parallels with The Guest.

I was worried it would look shoehorned lol.

>Indeed. Also if we watch Mystic Pizza it has Lilly Taylor in it who was also in a movie with Mel Ransom.

Maybe we could make a special classification of movies where the link to other movies in the club is that they have at least two people who've worked with the Roberts family (or a single Roberts) in the past. It would be a bit like "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon". Sounds like a fun idea to me.

>One thing I didn't understand is how the spooks got the names and addresses of the other 4 subscribers to the newsletter when only Julia had the list after Mel incinerated his apartment.

Well, he contacted them via USENET. I don't know if you're aware of it but some of the US agencies had sniffing capabilities installed in ISPs nodes themselves pretty early. Case in point, FBI's Carnivore. He even says they see everything on the net at one point.

>Like her swapping the charts!

Let's not forget that he saved her from the muggers and it was the reason she allowed him to go to her office despite looking like he's completely lost his grip on reality.


 No.805

>tfw no qt Best Julia gf to kill CIA niggers with


 No.806

File: 3266635019875b9⋯.mp4 (978.83 KB, 640x480, 4:3, migrants_-_Streamable.mp4)

>>805

Damn. This got a little too real all of a sudden.


 No.807

>>806

KEK

Based Terry


 No.811

File: a068b26fccb87ee⋯.jpg (2.33 MB, 2780x2085, 4:3, BLACKCOATS-DAUGHTER_1.jpg)

When are we doing The Blackcoat’s Daughter? My body is ready.


 No.812

>>811

I can do it tonight.


 No.813

File: e61cce5d2102cc2⋯.jpg (68.99 KB, 550x550, 1:1, Anna-Kendrick-Ellen-DeGene….jpg)

>>812

Swell! Let’s fucking do this!


 No.814

>>811

>>812

>>813

Tonight it's done then.

I'll try to do it early because I need to get up early tomorrow so I can produce some OC for the photography thread.

If I don't run too short of focal distance and if the location I've found has views to my subject as I think it does, I should get some sweet pics to share with you guys.


 No.820

By the way, should we post the review/commentary on the "Best Emma kino" thread when we're done?


 No.823

>>491

I just realized I had missed that video, the scene definitely looks like it was inspired by that. Even the lighting is similar. That one you posted is quite the jumpscare too.

I'll start watching The Blackcoat's Daughter now.


 No.827

File: 8baabb21e0358a1⋯.gif (1.02 MB, 245x300, 49:60, surprise.gif)

Ok that movie was stressful as fuck. Have y'all watched it so I don't have to spoiler?


 No.828

>>827

No, not yet, but go ahead.


 No.831

File: 1d541fdd6b59c1e⋯.gif (1.73 MB, 235x160, 47:32, facepalm.gif)

>>828

Ok, posted at the Best Emma general which I just realised was the wrong place kek. Meant to post at "Best Emma kino" thread. Reposting now.


 No.852

File: f649c1241bde594⋯.mp4 (3.33 MB, 320x240, 4:3, cobra.mp4)

This comment might seem like it's coming from nowhere, but I'm proud to say that there hasn't been a single bad movie since we've started. Of course some movies were weaker than others and left us longing for more than they delivered, but there hasn't been a single one that wasn't worth watching and discussing. I consider that a success in itself. The complex web of thematic connections that's been woven makes me proud of this club too.

>>831

As I said in the general, that's no problem. We used to do it on purpose at the dawn of this board.

By the way, when you asked if you should watch Cobra I forgot to attach this. It's not only a fun scene but also a gorgeous one. Look at that pleasant palette and the beautiful scenery seen through the window. All the movie is like this, an evocative visual feast that brings nostalgia for a time and a place we were never in. There's also no shortage of one-liners and banter. It's film soleil at its finest with a touch of humor. It's been classed as a slasher sometimes but I believe it's a misleading classification. It's 80s action more than anything, even if the villain is dubbed "the night slasher".


 No.907

As if I wasn't hyped enough for Mary Shelley, I went to the grocery store today and saw a girl that looked like a brunette Elle Fanning. Is this a signal?


 No.908

File: 8d33e0f0ea703c9⋯.jpg (118.61 KB, 640x396, 160:99, b8921c2063851c6de66199bbea….jpg)

>>907

Idunno… Did she complain about electrical infetterence?

https://pastebin.com/yYnrxJ5p


 No.911

>>908

I actually thought of formatting it like the pasta but couldn't come up with anything that would fit properly. I wanted to tell her she looked like Elle, but I didn't want to look like a creep or anything. The guy at the counter was very nice and professional and nothing extraordinary happened.


 No.913

File: 4d28ec75de874c6⋯.gif (999.9 KB, 500x281, 500:281, witch.gif)

>>908

kek

Did you guys hear Zemeckis is set to direct a remake of 'The Witches'?

http://archive.is/DrAUt


 No.917

File: 4172deae838dafa⋯.jpg (32.31 KB, 640x480, 4:3, Matilda-matilda-4452431-64….jpg)

>>913

Neat! This is actually one remake I am looking forward to. I remember listening to the audiobook of The Witches when I was a wee lad, and I think I saw the 1990 film at one point as well.

The Danny DeVito directed adaptation of Dahl’s Matilda from 1996 is another great family film; Embeth Davidtz was so adorable in it as Miss Honey.


 No.918

>>917

>tfw no M(r)s. Honey wife and telekinetic child

brb, committing sudoku


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>>918

This truly is the worst timeline ;_;


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File: 0716d9ed942ea67⋯.webm (2.78 MB, 720x302, 360:151, Matilda - Hope.webm)

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>>917

>>918

>>920

A favourite. Awesome movie. I love Miss Honey so much.

>teacher goals


 No.926

>>913

>>917

>>918

>>920

>>921

I feel completely out of the loop here and that's why I didn't reply to the original post lol.

t. BO


 No.927

File: 4c5168f9c829980⋯.gif (498.96 KB, 500x273, 500:273, Touching.gif)

>>926

Wait, wat. You've never seen Home Alone or Matilda? Were you raised solely on ’80s action and giallo or something? Matilda is such a great family film, and Miss Honey is probably the best movie mother/waifu ever.

You have seen Casper though, right? Right?


 No.930

>>927

>Wait, wat. You've never seen Home Alone or Matilda?

Nope, not The Witches either.

>Were you raised solely on ’80s action and giallo or something?

I wish. Giallo was a relatively recent discovery for me.

I was raised on kiddie flicks like the Spy Kids series, kiddie shows like Sabrina the Teenage Witch (I loved it) and cartoons. Then later Jason Statham movies like The Transporter. the Matrix saga and garbage like The Fast and the Furious. The 80s action I got was Terminator, Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Commando. Most of 89/90s Batman films too. A lot Al Pacino stuff, the whole Godfather saga, Carlito's Way, Scarface. Much of this came after playing GTA Vice City though, that game played a huge part in getting me hooked to the 80s.

The Retro channel (now TCM) got me to watch stuff like Cobra, The 'Burbs, Knight Rider and Wonder Woman.

It's hard to remember what I watched when I was around 10-12 other than those Batman films and Spy Kids because at one point I was renting like three movies per weekend, it was kinda insane. I guarantee most of it must have been early 00s trash though. I have vague memories of watching Jim Carrey stuff and I definitely watched the first 3 flicks of the dullest franchise. I also read the first 5 books, not knowing better as a kid. I read the first three in a single day each and 4 and 5 in two days each. I'm disgusted for not knowing better. In my defense, I was like 10 or 11 at the time.

I also remember watching Scooby Doo and Scooby Doo 2 at the cinema, and watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Wicked Science. I also some Kevin Costner movies, notably The Untouchables and A Perfect World. Also some infamous TV shows like Walker: Texas Ranger, The Adventures of Brisco County Jr., Bones and CSI: Miami. I'm sure I'm missing stuff but you get an idea. Please forgive the shitty writing, I didn't proofread.


 No.931

File: f880246246b01f1⋯.jpg (135.44 KB, 683x1024, 683:1024, rqkst-poster-683x1024.jpg)

Finally got a hold of La dama rossa uccide sette volte with original Italian audio and two(!) sets of English subtitles!

When are we watching Mary Shelley? I’m good to go.


 No.935

>>931

Nice! Webmanon and I are stuck at 95,8%.


 No.936

>>931

You got the 1.18gb version? I'm ready to go.

>>935

The original file that got stuck suddenly completed last night.


 No.939

File: a12087d24065c35⋯.jpg (102.58 KB, 1451x816, 1451:816, 4GxUChvf9XxKIniwWOD6kw9ZF5.jpg)

>>936

>You got the 1.18gb version?

Of The Red Queen…? Yes; La.Dama Rossa.Uccide.Sette Volte 1972 BDRip 720p x265-NAHOM


 No.940

File: 0279d1016a71701⋯.png (1023.97 KB, 997x722, 997:722, internet.png)

>>936

Nice. Same. The other one BO and I were going for got stuck in the final stretch!


 No.942

>>939

God, she's so hot.

>>939

>>940

Y-you guys don't expect me to download the NAHOM version from scratch, do y-you?

Also cool pic.


 No.943

>>942

Only if that other one never completes. You've got plenty of time as we're watching ''Mary Shelly' first right? When are we doing that?


 No.944

>>943

Not sure, I'm chasing a couple of deadlines for uni.


 No.948

File: a695b01a0dd772e⋯.png (85.25 KB, 280x291, 280:291, a695b01a0dd772e4bb0d04e9b7….png)

>check bittorrent client

>download progress has advanced

>96.2%

>mfw


 No.949

>>943

Tonight's the night.


 No.950

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 No.951

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>>950

>SOON

Can’t come soon enough!

I want to make a breakdown of everything I saw in that trailer tbh. So much to discuss already.

We’ll have to add this to our filmclub the moment it is available, right?


 No.952

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>>950

“Under the crimson, primordial sky, the wretched warlock reached into the dark embrace. His fist closed around the serpents eye. Strange and eternal.”

Seems like Mandy got hooked on the writings of a pulp fiction author, probably someone like L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of the Church of Scientology. Sadly I can’t quite make out the title of the book she is reading… Maybe Mandy ended up like Patty Hearst?

The Pinhead-looking character reminds me of one of the two villain in ‘Hobo with a Shotgun’, who also ride around on motorcycles.

The quick glimpses of the cartoon seems similar in style to Heavy Metal, as well as Western 1980s animation in general – in particular the films of Ralph Bakshi, such as Fire and Ice from 1983, the same year this film is set in. Some of the visuals also looks similar to this film; getting some major Conan the Barbarian and Frank Frazetta vibes.

There is something familiar about the design of the axe Cage crafts and wields, but I can’t remember what it reminds me of. It is somewhat cumbersome and the design doesn’t seem all that practical – it feels like a ceremonial weapon, similar to Nyle’s dagger (the Devil’s Teardrop) in Beyond the Black Rainbow.

The title font makes it seem like a black metal band logo – the pentagram shirt Mandy wears earlier, when she is reading her pulp fiction book, looks to be a metal band shirt. Maybe there is some commentary or reference to the Satanic panic of the 1980s in the film?

In addition to Cage there were two familiar faces in the trailer: Bill Duke from Predator, and Richard Brake from Doom and Game of Thrones.

Mandy review: Nicolas Cage wreaks revenge at the fiery gates of hell | Sight & Sound | BFI: http://archive.is/EzfX7

Forgot to mention: that chainsaw duel at the end is straight out of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 from 1986, where Dennis Hopper’s character is on a revenge rampage and fights Leatherface in a chainsaw duel.

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 No.955

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>>950

NICE! Coincidentally I had revisited Beyond the Black Rainbow moments ago after banging a pen against my desk while I was bored, which reminded me of Barry Nyle banging that pen against his notepad.

>>951

>We’ll have to add this to our filmclub the moment it is available, right?

Absolutely.

>>952

>There is something familiar about the design of the axe Cage crafts and wields, but I can’t remember what it reminds me of. It is somewhat cumbersome and the design doesn’t seem all that practical – it feels like a ceremonial weapon, similar to Nyle’s dagger (the Devil’s Teardrop) in Beyond the Black Rainbow.

My exact thoughts! And seeing it also reminded me of the Night Slasher's knife from Cobra. Maybe they're a homage to George P. Cosmatos from his son? I noticed other similarities to Beyond the Black Rainbow: "You're a special one, Mandy. I too am a special one. Let's us be so very special together". Very similar to Nyle's attitude towards Elena. The voice of that guy also reminded me so much of Dr. Arboria that I had to check the cast to see if it was the same actor. I feel like it will be a similar plot to Beyond the Black Rainbow with different "environments", so to speak.

>The title font makes it seem like a black metal band logo – the pentagram shirt Mandy wears earlier, when she is reading her pulp fiction book, looks to be a metal band shirt.

Again my exact thoughts. It's definitely done in that style. Reminds me of Nargaroth.

>Maybe there is some commentary or reference to the Satanic panic of the 1980s in the film?

Not sure, but there's a prominent cross in the style of Justice and Carpenter Brut.

>Forgot to mention: that chainsaw duel at the end is straight out of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 from 1986, where Dennis Hopper’s character is on a revenge rampage and fights Leatherface in a chainsaw duel.

The blood in Cage's face makes him look a lot like Leatherface too. We've seen it spoofed in Scream Queens too, when the Dickie Dollar Scholars face the Red Devils. Except they have bats to fight the chainsaws and it has the consequences we all saw.


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File: d5a92b8ef973977⋯.jpg (1.11 MB, 1884x2514, 314:419, Man reading by lamplight, ….jpg)

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I wasn’t blown away by ‘Mary Shelley’, but I enjoyed it – the costumes and the performances were very good, for the most part. Some of the dialogue felt too theatrical, stilted and artificial, at least to my ears. The time period this takes place in is one of my favourites – I adore everything about it, and with the exception of the fake-looking cityscape we see in the background early on, I thought they did a fine job taking us back to the Georgian Era.

Hearing Maisie talking in a Scottish accent was one highlight – HNNNNNNG!

Too bad she is barley in the film! She is literally in it for something like two minutes – tops! And she’s only got a very few lines. There is something really familiar about the actress who played Mary’s stepsister, Claire, but I can’t remember where I have seen here before. And, of course, Mary’s father is played by Stephen Dillane, best known for his role as Stannis on Game of Thrones.

Elle did a great job IMHO as Mary though, absolutely one of the highlights of the film. Maybe a native English speaker will object, but I thought she did a fine job with her British accent.

I did not care of Percy’s character at all – he came off as a right twat, and I couldn’t get Robert Pattinson/Edward Cullen out of my mind every time he was on screen. The way they introduced Percy’s wife and child seemed incredibly forced – I have to think they took some great liberties with this part…

I did not much care for Lord Byron either – a smug parody of a character almost. I want to believe there was more to Byron and Percy’s IRL than what we see on screen here.

Funfact: the storm that caused them to come up with the challenge of writing a ghost story happened during the ‘Year Without a Summer’, when the entire world felt the effects of the volcanic winter that followed the 1815 eruption of Mount Tambora in the Dutch East Indies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer


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>>955

The trailer and the official description seems to allude to the cult leader (Jeremiah Sand) going thru some transition; he is becoming a woman (Mandy) – fusing their body and soul?

Did you make out the title or the name of the author of the book Mandy is reading?

Anyone seen Mirror Mirror from 2012? It stars Julia Roberts, Lily Collins (daughter of Phil Collins) & Sean Bean, and I think it could be one to add to the filmclub list. It is a Snow White adaptation, and despite getting some poor reviews, it was nominated for an Oscar for best costumes. I think the film looks fantastic visually, and Julia looks like she is having a blast playing the Evil Queen.

Mirror Mirror Trailer Official 2012 [HD] - Julia Roberts, Armie Hammer: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=FCdMHUx59mQ

There is an essay on the Snow White fairytale that I found quite interesting: https://archive.org/details/TheVoiceOfOurAncestors


 No.960

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>>959

For a moment I thought you had said Mandy was reading Mirror Mirror and it seemed oddly fitting that there was a Julia movie about it, lol.

That Scarface line in the trailer cracked me up, seems like it might be a fun watch despite being a PG rated movie about a fairy tale.

That said, I'd be more compelled to watch Duplicity, to name one. Or Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (it has spies like Duplicity but this time it's rated R. It also has a high score on IMDb but it doesn't really mean much). But yes, we could add Mirror Mirror.


 No.963

>>959

I absolutely love Mirror Mirror! It's more of a comedy than anything else, really, with a couple of pretty cool fight scenes and some drama stuff that I'm not ashamed to admit always makes me cry. The only thing that bothered me about it at first, and still kind of does, is that it sits right in the middle of a weird zone between passing for a child film and an adult film but ends up being neither; I don't mean "adult film" like porn, obviously (although it has sexual humour), but like whether it's a "teen film" or too pure to be one, while at the same time possibly being too intelligent to be called one. It has a strange modernness and maturity to it that's kind of weird when you consider the fact that it's about Snow White, and it has one scene that wouldn't be out of place in a horror film (well, at least if it didn't involve dwarves), yet everything about it teems with childlike innocence... except for one part where a guy says he was raped, but that's brushed off within seconds and also one of the most hilarious moments in the entire film in context because the rapist was a grasshopper and it happened while he was turned into a cockroach.

All in all, it's quite a child-friendly film, which I usually dislike (and I especially dislike so-called "teen films"), but it has its more mature moments and has such good (albeit presumably intentionally unnatural and exaggerated) acting, and is so different from the Disney animation of Snow White and the fairytale, that it just stands up as a great film.

If you haven't seen it, watch it right now! Also important to note is that Lily Collins is so cute, it's hard to believe she came out of Phil's ass.


 No.964

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>>960

>For a moment I thought you had said Mandy was reading Mirror Mirror

Oh you! Never change, BO.

Upon repeated viewings of the trailer I noticed that Mandy has a scar than runs down from under her left eye and down to her cheek.

There is also the mention of ‘the serpent’s eyes’ in the book she reads, and the intro in Beyond the Black Rainbow is a close-up of a ‘forever dilating eye’, as the first track on the soundtrack puts it, and later on in BtBR we see the ‘God’s Eye’ constellation, and we’ve mentioned the Nietzsche quote about staring into the abyss, so it could be Panos is going to continue with the eye symbolism.

>>963

>If you haven't seen it, watch it right now!

DL-ing it now!

I have a weak spot for fairytales; both mum and dad would read them to me as a child before bedtime, and I grew up watching some of the Disney animated films, I even watched The Lion King and Pocahontas (neither based on fairytales, but still) in the cinemas with my dad, and I have watched Aladdin on VHS more times than I can count. I haven’t watched many live action takes on fairytales yet though.

Snow White: The Fairest of Them All, which stars Miranda Richardson, Kristin Kreuk, Vera Farmiga, Michael J. Anderson (who played The Man from Another Place in the two first seasons of Twin Peaks), Warwick Davis & Vincent Schivelli – what a great cast, eh! – caught my eye a while back. I was saddened to find out it was aimed towards children, and it did take a few too many liberties with the story IMHO. That opening scene though – beautiful to look at, and Vera Farmiga has these beautiful blue eyes… It was directed by Caroline Thompson, who co-wrote Edward Scissorhands & The Nightmare Before Christmas (which was directed by Henry Selick, not Burton), and there is something reminiscent of Burton in that opening; it is very similar to the flashback scene in Sleepy Hollow, with young Ichabod & his mother. Kristin shares a quick kiss with Miranda in it too, so there is that. Also, the castle is very similar to one of our stave churches, and the mirror room reminded me of the mirror room(!) in Conan the Destroyer.

The only other one I can think of is The Curse of Sleeping Beauty, which I bought on DVD not too long ago. That was such a weird film, leaning mostly towards horror. Not at all what I was expecting, and I went in expecting it to be kinda weird.

I kinda want to see the KStew Snow White film, but from what I’ve seen they’ve turned it into a fantasy action film, with some Jeanne d’Arc elements?

There are also two French adaptations of Beauty and the Beast that I want to check out, La Belle et la Bête from 1946, and La Belle et la Bête from 2014 directed by Christophe Gans starring Vincent Cassel.

>it's hard to believe she came out of Phil's ass

I wish I could unsee that image in my mind ;_;

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 No.968

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>>964

Very minor addendum: Mandy seems to be an artist, so I guess she is the animator of the animated sequences we see in the trailer. The animated cult film Heavy Metal came out in 1981, and the Filmation cartoon He-Man and the Masters of the Universe had its debut in 1983, the same year the film is set. It certainly looks like Heavy Metal is the main influence on the animated sequences we see in the trailer.


 No.969

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>>964

For a moment I thought you were going to say you wanted to watch Beauty and the Beast (2017).


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File: 3cb61d471d9f3a0⋯.webm (5.95 MB, 712x300, 178:75, Conan the Barbarian (1982….webm)

>>969

Now that would’ve been a plot twist! Rest assured though, that film is not on my backlog – in fact, come to think of it there is a distinct lack of films featuring worst Emma on it… Pure coincidence I am sure.

The quote from the book Mandy is reading in the trailer made me think of my favourite film of all time; Conan the Barbarian from 1982. There is a scene where Conan teams up with two other thieves to steal a jewel called the Eye of the Serpent from a fiendish, snake-worshipping cult, led by a shape-shifting warlock, who also led the raid on Conan’s village and decapitated his mother in front of him. 🤔

Also, the copy of Mirror Mirror that I downloaded had only Russian audio. The search continues…


 No.977

>>972

>Also, the copy of Mirror Mirror that I downloaded had only Russian audio. The search continues…

Here's one from the best site for piracy: https://mega.nz/#!ESxBETLJ!H5LX1b4l0kkmY05BiMCTaW6iUrBq5jiIOmUG5BlI4F8


 No.978

>>972

>Now that would’ve been a plot twist! Rest assured though, that film is not on my backlog – in fact, come to think of it there is a distinct lack of films featuring worst Emma on it… Pure coincidence I am sure.

Indeed it would, lol. All it takes to convince someone to stay away from anything she's in is to show them an excerpt from the flick in question where doing a performance.

>Also, the copy of Mirror Mirror that I downloaded had only Russian audio. The search continues…

Wew lad.

>>977

>800mb

Let me see if I can find a better copy.


 No.979

>>972

>>977

Sent you guys an email but the seed disappeared in the middle of the download, lol.


 No.983

>>972

>Also, the copy of Mirror Mirror that I downloaded had only Russian audio. The search continues…

>be in a place with spotty internet for a week

>dl Twin Peaks S3 to keep me company

>hardcoded Russian audio

>mfw

REEEEEE can't even upload reaction image


 No.985

>>978

>All it takes to convince someone to stay away from anything she's in is to show them an excerpt from the flick in question where doing a performance.

I caught about 40 mins of 'Perks of Being a Wallflower'' the other day. I was astonished at how lackluster her performance was.


 No.986

>>957

>Some of the dialogue felt too theatrical, stilted and artificial, at least to my ears.

Agreed. The dialogue was literary.

>And, of course, Mary’s father is played by Stephen Dillane, best known for his role as Stannis on Game of Thrones.

I was racking my brains the whole film trying to pin point where I knew his face from!

>Maybe a native English speaker will object, but I thought she did a fine job with her British accent.

Agreed.

>Elle did a great job IMHO as Mary though, absolutely one of the highlights of the film.

I never found Elle all that much in 'The Neon Demon' when I initially watched it, but after seeing this I can understand how NWR views her as a muse. She was by far the highlight of the film.

>I couldn’t get Robert Pattinson/Edward Cullen out of my mind every time he was on screen.

Have you ever seen a more slappable/punchable face? I actually found it difficult to watch when he and also when Byron were given screen time.

> I want to believe there was more to Byron and Percy’s IRL than what we see on screen here.

One hopes. It was particularly hard to care for their loving ending when the question of his orphaned child was never addressed.

>Funfact

That is a fun fact. Although I knew about the writing challenge I didn't know about the eruption and 'Year Without a Summer'. I swear when reading about it years ago, there was some connection with Stoker as well. Like someone was friends with him or his employer or something. It's fascinating seeing how writers, painters, and musicians crossed paths in a much smaller world.

I have to say that the movie took too long to get into a groove and establish the characters. I really didn't get interested until they turned up in Geneva. The characters were rather unsympathetic (aside from Mary & her sister) so it was kind of like "who cares?" when she ends up back with the anus mouthed Shelley. Was disappointed when Maisie never showed up again. I want to see more of Elle's acting going forward. Overall, it kept my attention, but probs something I wouldn't watch again.

BTW I watched From Beyond last night for the first time and can see exactly what you two were talking about with the similarity to the car scene in Like Me. Loved the colours in From Beyond. What a crazy ending.


 No.995

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>>986

>I never found Elle all that much in 'The Neon Demon' when I initially watched it

Elle was a bit more anonymous in TND, not exactly taking the back-seat, but she didn’t really shine compared to the three other leading ladies.

>after seeing this I can understand how NWR views her as a muse.

How do you think Gosling takes being replaced by a new muse? Him and NWR seemed to have a major bromance going on back when they did Drive and Only God Forgives.

>Have you ever seen a more slappable/punchable face? I actually found it difficult to watch when he and also when Byron were given screen time.

IKR? I had forgotten this was supposed to be a romantic film while watching it, and it wasn’t only till after seeing it and looking up who that qt who played Claire is that I saw it was also a romantic film.

The guy is just so fucking smug and smarmy and if I hadn’t known they ended up together and married, I would have expected him to ditch her once she was pregnant.

He is handsome and he writes poetry, and he is a well-known name, so I guess I can see why she and others would fall for him, but to me he just came off as a complete douche-bag.

I’m pretty sure I’ve read that Lord Byron was gay, or at the very least bisexual – I seem to recall something about him frolicking with his young males lovers

When they first arrive in Geneva, the way Lord Byron first greets Percy is very similar to how Lando greets Han in The Empire Strikes Back, only without the kiss of course, and thankfully.

I love the actress who played Claire – she was absolutely stunning. She has those big, curious and expressive blue eyes, just like Macarena Gómez.

>That is a fun fact.

wew. I was reminded of that fact a while back, after I got hold of some old family letters from around that time. I thought I detected an indirect reference to the ‘Year Without a Summer’ in one letter dated 1816. By then the crops had failed due to the terrible weather and temperature drop, and to make matters worse, all this happened just after the devastating Napoleonic Wars had plagued Europe. According to the letter they they also found time to attend balls, no matter how dire the situation was, or maybe because of it…

I didn’t know Mary’s mother had had an affair with Fuseli, or the Stoker connection you mentioned. It does seem like everything connects in these artistic circles.

Also, didn’t Mary’s father(?) write an essay or a book about exploring the universe and visiting other planets?

An excerpt of Percy’s sonnet ‘Ozymandias’ was recited in an episode of Breaking Bad as well.

>BTW I watched From Beyond last night for the first time

It is a pretty decent film IMHO, even though it takes some massive liberties with the source material. If you want to see more of Barbara Crampton, check out Gordon’s earlier Lovecraft adaptation ‘Re-Animator’.

She gets nekkid


 No.1004

>>985

lol

>>983

>>977

Check your inbox.


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File: 6174e886f79b67b⋯.gif (3.28 MB, 460x193, 460:193, Axe.gif)

If I am correct in guessing that the animated sequences we see in the trailer are made by Mandy, I think Red (Cage’s character) is basing the design of his axe on something from Mandy’s cartoon.


 No.1049

File: 39c553add71f211⋯.png (231.14 KB, 733x304, 733:304, elle.png)

I absolutely loved Mary Shelley, had me feeling for the characters the two hours it lasted. What a beautiful tragedy.

Elle has aged beautifully since her appearance in The Neon Demon. Like >>986, I didn't find her to be a big deal there, and I even thought that Abbey Lee Kershaw was by far the most attractive of the bunch. She really shines in this film, I don't know if it's her age, the darker hair or even the camera angles and lighting but she's incredibly beautiful.

The father had me disoriented and I thought he was the guy who also played a poet in our muse's film Adult World, but I was mistaken (although the themes are somewhat similar, in Adult World it takes Amy a great deal of suffering before she can become a talented poet, and her mentor -played by John Cusack- also causes her some anguish when he harshly criticizes her work, much like Mary's father in this one).

As for Percy, he had me thinking "what a chad", lol. I shamelessly self inserted as him before he was shown to be a scumbag. It probably took him a lot more effort than shown in the movie to get Mary though. Byron disgusted me from the start though.

I felt bad for the doctor after learning his fate.

The movie as a whole, I loved it from start to end. It's a shame Maisie was for such a short amount of time, she was great in it (and her giggle is adorable).

The cinematography was great, it was a beautiful film from the start. It felt magical despite having no supernatural elements. It made me long for an era long gone regardless of knowing virtually everything wasn't as good as we have it today.

Everything was on point, locations, palettes, the showcasing of the lifestyle of that era. The only thing I would maybe have changed was the casting of Claire, her looks annoyed me.

>>957

>I did not much care for Lord Byron either – a smug parody of a character almost. I want to believe there was more to Byron and Percy’s IRL than what we see on screen here.

Of course there was, but let's not forget the movie is called Mary Shelley (and is two hours long as it is). That said, the depiction is probably accurate, poets were known for their debauchery.

>Funfact: the storm that caused them to come up with the challenge of writing a ghost story happened during the ‘Year Without a Summer’, when the entire world felt the effects of the volcanic winter that followed the 1815 eruption of Mount Tambora in the Dutch East Indies.

That's cool as hell, pun intended.

>>986

>I have to say that the movie took too long to get into a groove and establish the characters. I really didn't get interested until they turned up in Geneva. The characters were rather unsympathetic (aside from Mary & her sister) so it was kind of like "who cares?" when she ends up back with the anus mouthed Shelley. Was disappointed when Maisie never showed up again. I want to see more of Elle's acting going forward. Overall, it kept my attention, but probs something I wouldn't watch again.

I was disappointed to not see Maisie again too, but didn't find the unsympathetic characters to be an issue. They were jerks, yes, but it was par for the course when it came to the artist lifestyle of the era.

It's like making a movie about some rockstar, it's all sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll for them. Poets were basically the equivalent to our rockstars. Even in the more academic world you see similar things. I knew a guy who was top notch playing his instrument, best in the world. He'd give concerts all over Europe, the Middle East, Russia and the US. He was from here and I had the privilege of attending to some of his concerts when I was a kid. But his personal life was a trainwreck. He basically abandoned his wife and his much younger touring partner became his lover. I won't name the guy for PERSEC reasons and to not insult his memory, but I wanted the story to serve as an example that the life of creators is often less than ideal. All the genius they have for creation is more often than not accompanied by a lack of order in their lives.

>BTW I watched From Beyond last night for the first time and can see exactly what you two were talking about with the similarity to the car scene in Like Me. Loved the colours in From Beyond. What a crazy ending.

I only saw the scene itself when the video was posted here, lol. But yes, it looks quite similar.

>>995

>Elle was a bit more anonymous in TND, not exactly taking the back-seat, but she didn’t really shine compared to the three other leading ladies.

And she didn't look quite as stunning as she does now.

>How do you think Gosling takes being replaced by a new muse? Him and NWR seemed to have a major bromance going on back when they did Drive and Only God Forgives.

Well, don't forget that Mads Mikkelsen was there before. Is there even a NWR/Elle movie in the horizon?

>IKR? I had forgotten this was supposed to be a romantic film while watching it, and it wasn’t only till after seeing it and looking up who that qt who played Claire is that I saw it was also a romantic film.

Lol, I found Claire ugly and it probably fueled my disgust with her character. Had Maisie played her, I'd be a lot more forgiving. That chick is like a more droopy-faced version of Jenny Nicholson.

>The guy is just so fucking smug and smarmy and if I hadn’t known they ended up together and married, I would have expected him to ditch her once she was pregnant.

He couldn't resist the charms of Mary, lol. What's a poet without his muse?

>He is handsome and he writes poetry, and he is a well-known name, so I guess I can see why she and others would fall for him, but to me he just came off as a complete douche-bag.

He was a douchebag but also a chad, lol. Some girls like douches.

>I’m pretty sure I’ve read that Lord Byron was gay, or at the very least bisexual – I seem to recall something about him frolicking with his young males lovers

Me too, and it's even hinted that he and Percy had sex at one point (when Percy tells Mary to stay). They'd probably be bisexual even if just to rebel back in the day.

>When they first arrive in Geneva, the way Lord Byron first greets Percy is very similar to how Lando greets Han in The Empire Strikes Back, only without the kiss of course, and thankfully.

lol, somehow I imagine Star Wars managing to make it even faggier despite not having actual homos in it.

>I love the actress who played Claire – she was absolutely stunning. She has those big, curious and expressive blue eyes, just like Macarena Gómez.

I found myself feeling the opposite - and even thinking she was cast to make the audiences like her even less. Reading your post I guess I'm probably mistaken in assuming she was cast to alienate the audiences from her character. Speaking of big eyes, is there anything with Alexandra Daddario you guys want to watch? She's stunning but I haven't seen any movie with her in it.

>wew. I was reminded of that fact a while back, after I got hold of some old family letters from around that time. I thought I detected an indirect reference to the ‘Year Without a Summer’ in one letter dated 1816. By then the crops had failed due to the terrible weather and temperature drop, and to make matters worse, all this happened just after the devastating Napoleonic Wars had plagued Europe. According to the letter they they also found time to attend balls, no matter how dire the situation was, or maybe because of it…

Very interesting. I didn't even know about the Year Without a Summer, lol. People probably thought the end was coming back then.

>It does seem like everything connects in these artistic circles.

Indeed, and as shown in the movie artists would gather and share their work. It wasn't an isolated thing - it used to happen here in my country too, and it's not like this country is a powerhouse of art. It also happened in the Bohemian circles in France in the late 19th century. That's how artistic movements used to form in a less connected world.

>Also, didn’t Mary’s father(?) write an essay or a book about exploring the universe and visiting other planets?

Wew lad, now that's something.

>An excerpt of Percy’s sonnet ‘Ozymandias’ was recited in an episode of Breaking Bad as well.

I knew about Ozymandias but didn't know it was Percy's poem (or care much about it).


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Wew, that was longer than I realized while writing in the tiny reply window. Sorry for the wall of text, guys.

Also a last dumb comment: whenever the word "Bliss" was uttered, I couldn't help thinking of Alexa, the Chanel Oberlin of WWE. /tv/ has fucked me up.


 No.1051

File: 3d7b84e3a2c462a⋯.webm (2.76 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Unscripted interview with….webm)

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>>1049

>It made me long for an era long gone regardless of knowing virtually everything wasn't as good as we have it today.

The Welsh have a word for that feeling: Hiraeth = (n.) [Welsh] a homesickness for a home to which maybe never was; the nostalgia, the yearning, the grief for the lost places of your past

>I found Claire ugly and it probably fueled my disgust with her character.

>That chick is like a more droopy-faced version of Jenny Nicholson.

Of course, you know this means war! Look at these big blue eyes. Absolutely adorable IMHO, and she did a very fine job portraying the character too. In fact I found Claire more sympathetic than Mary.

>don't forget that Mads Mikkelsen was there before.

I don’t recall NWR & Mads having that same chemistry as he did with Gosling. Not even close. Just look at these guys.


 No.1052

>>1051

>The Welsh have a word for that feeling: Hiraeth

Definitely get that feeling from time to time.

>Of course, you know this means war! Look at these big blue eyes. Absolutely adorable IMHO, and she did a very fine job portraying the character too. In fact I found Claire more sympathetic than Mary.

I've got to go with robertsfag on this one. She looked kind of pathetic to me and made me feel less sympathy for her.


 No.1053

File: ec1cd038370650a⋯.png (769.77 KB, 640x640, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

>>1051

>The Welsh have a word for that feeling: Hiraeth = (n.) [Welsh] a homesickness for a home to which maybe never was; the nostalgia, the yearning, the grief for the lost places of your past

Interesting. A similar concept appears in a lot of fashwave art too, pic related.

>Of course, you know this means war! Look at these big blue eyes. Absolutely adorable IMHO, and she did a very fine job portraying the character too. In fact I found Claire more sympathetic than Mary.

She looks very good there, I'll give you that. But for that movie, I'm #teammary.

>I don’t recall NWR & Mads having that same chemistry as he did with Gosling. Not even close. Just look at these guys.

Damn, it's like they've been friends forever lol.

>>1052

>I've got to go with robertsfag on this one. She looked kind of pathetic to me and made me feel less sympathy for her.

Definitely. Mary was the muse and Claire was the roastie, lol.

Not saying that Mary wasn't bad for what she did to Harriet, but she was a lot more respectable than Claire in my opinion. She was the femme fatale in love while Claire was the slutty backstabbing basic bitch that gets pumped and dumped by everyone. Mary saw one man, fell in love with him and only after she was involved with him she knew he was married. Claire ratted out on Mary, then begged her to take her in her adventure and then had an affair with her man while she was pregnant and while she cared for her baby.


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File: db184634336e24d⋯.gif (891.06 KB, 500x280, 25:14, d8fec36f9e50c8c0f6b651047b….gif)

Oh, also some comments on Percy that go beyond my superficial appreciations done before:

I don't think he was really at fault at first for "cheating" on Mary when she was a proponent of "free love" (which in my opinion isn't love at all but mere hedonism, but that's not really relevant in this context). The problem is that she didn't make her expectations clear. Also I read some stuff about her and it seems the movie isn't completely accurate when it comes to her rejection of Hogg. In fact, she apparently flirted with him and Percy being a huge cuck encouraged them to have a relationship. Only when Mary learned she was pregnant she friendzoned him and relegated him to the role of beta orbiter and emotional support in times of distress (like when she lost her baby and she's send letters to him trying to get the pain off her chest).

Something that catched my attention was when he asked Mary why make a monster instead of a perfect being. My reaction was basically gif related. I could see myself thinking that was a viable idea some years ago, but I'd expect a prestigious poet to know better. Flawless characters are bland, and histories centered around a flawless character more so, unless there's some major conflict involved. That's the beauty of the plot of Gattaca, the genetically engineered humans designed to be perfect can't compete with the one who was created naturally. Because as humans we can't create perfection, even our own notions of what would be perfect will be flawed. Perfection is a concept, but ultimately an unattainable one. History has taught us that utopian ideas lead to dystopian realities.

I hope to not have bored you guys too much with my ramblings.


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File: 69f9c8b820d2fa5⋯.jpg (812.79 KB, 1651x1700, 1651:1700, Bleak-House-filming-at-Cob….jpg)

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>>1052

>I've got to go with robertsfag on this one.

Et tu, Brute?

>She looked kind of pathetic to me and made me feel less sympathy for her.

I would expect someone who looked pathetic make you feel more sympathy for them. Mary actively went against her father in pursuing a married man with a child, she further antagonised her stepmother instead of trying to make amends. Up until she lost her child I really didn’t feel like she was someone really deserving of sympathy at all. Everything that went wrong did so because of her actions. Claire was one year younger than Mary, and seemingly even more naïve and dependent on her family and her sister, whom she followed when Mary decided to be a homewrecker and move in with Percy.

>>1053

>Definitely. Mary was the muse and Claire was the roastie, lol.

I disagree with basically everything in that paragraph.

I sympathise with Mary’s struggle to be a writer, and I see why she would dislike her stepmother, but she made some absolutely dreadful decisions, and she should have been much firmer with Claire, telling her not to follow her on her wild exploits with married men.

If you want to see a really good romantic story set in the Georgian Era, check out BBC’s brilliant TV adaptation of Dickens’ Bleak House from 2005. It has a fantastic ensemble cast of quality actors and actresses: Gillian Anderson, Carey Mulligan, Charles Dance, Alun Armstrong, Richard Griffiths, Anna Maxwell-Martin & Louise Brealey – just to name a few.

I have yet to finish the BBC minseries adaptation of Great Expectations from 2011 – it stars Gillian Anderson as Miss Havisham and Douglas Booth (who played Percy in Mary Shelley) as Pip.


 No.1060

File: 353ff1d62a66f57⋯.jpg (26.43 KB, 496x544, 31:34, f9fc6a7f19920dd3af5c4f5460….jpg)

>>1058

>I would expect someone who looked pathetic make you feel more sympathy for them.

No way. She's pathetic in the sense of being contemptible, not merely pity-inducing.

>Mary actively went against her father in pursuing a married man with a child

This is true, and she was foolish to do so. But she was blinded by passions, and she went into the relationship before Percy's marriage was revealed to her. She basically got to taste a slice of heaven (see what I did there? lol) and then was told to stay away from the rest of it after she was beyond hooked.

>she further antagonised her stepmother instead of trying to make amends.

It seemed to me that the stepmother never intended to be amiable to her, seemed like a Cinderella situation to me. Like when the stepmother wanted to see her work. And Claire ratting out certainly didn't help at all.

>Up until she lost her child I really didn’t feel like she was someone really deserving of sympathy at all.

I digress, I felt sympathy from the moment that Percy's wife showed up. That was when the heartbreak began.

>Everything that went wrong did so because of her actions.

Not just because of her, but also because of Percy. But it takes two to tango. Any of them could have avoided the disgraces that came after their own actions.

>Claire was one year younger than Mary, and seemingly even more naïve and dependent on her family and her sister, whom she followed when Mary decided to be a homewrecker and move in with Percy.

If Percy is to be believed, his home had long been wrecked already. Of course Mary just made things worse by shattering any chances of reconstruction, but apparently there was no home to wreck anymore. It was still adultery though. When it comes to age, it could be said they were both too naïve to know better. But Claire became Percy's lover while being in Mary's home. If Mary's actions are to be condemned, Claire's more so. It's one thing to steal another woman's husband, but to become the lover of your stepsister's man while living in her home is taking things to another whole level. Mary barely knew Harriet at all and had virtually no contact with her, Claire and Mary were family.

>I sympathise with Mary’s struggle to be a writer, and I see why she would dislike her stepmother, but she made some absolutely dreadful decisions, and she should have been much firmer with Claire, telling her not to follow her on her wild exploits with married men.

Definitely, but let's not forget they were both very young. I doubt Mary had the maturity to do that, even if she was clearly smarter.

>If you want to see a really good romantic story set in the Georgian Era, check out BBC’s brilliant TV adaptation of Dickens’ Bleak House from 2005. It has a fantastic ensemble cast of quality actors and actresses: Gillian Anderson, Carey Mulligan, Charles Dance, Alun Armstrong, Richard Griffiths, Anna Maxwell-Martin & Louise Brealey – just to name a few.

>I have yet to finish the BBC minseries adaptation of Great Expectations from 2011 – it stars Gillian Anderson as Miss Havisham and Douglas Booth (who played Percy in Mary Shelley) as Pip.

I'm not really crazy about the stuff but the cast for Bleak House sounds very interesting.

As an unrelated comment: I wonder if Frankenstein was really autobiographical as the movie asserts. I suspect it's inference based on Mary Shelley's life but I also think it's probably correct. At the very least, the experiences must have helped her empathize with the monster.

Also look what I found, I think it's hilarious:

There's a wiki devoted to Mary Shelley and they analyze AHS: Coven because Madison makes "the perfect boyfriend" with Kyle's head and the best body parts from his frat bros. Personally, I think they're taking AHS too seriously and drawing too many parallels from a very tongue-in-cheek reference. Talking about the "danger of knowledge" as explored in Frankenstein and other things. Some of the things they mention reminds me of myself shoehorning some random "influences" for laughs, but these guys call themselves Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley, An Academic Wiki.

http://mary-shelley.wikia.com/wiki/American_Horror_Story:_Coven


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File: 658a1c58624c749⋯.jpg (58.97 KB, 520x692, 130:173, amer-movie-poster-2009-102….jpg)

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File: 531237ace89d262⋯.mp4 (14.25 MB, 640x280, 16:7, Amer trailer.mp4)

Hey guys, I found something with high potential. It's a French/Belgian neo-giallo: Amer (2009).


 No.1068

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I just learned that Julia was in one episode of the fourth season of Miami Vice.

I dropped the series at the third season because of time constraints but this makes a compelling argument for me to rewatch what I already saw and then finish it.


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>>1067

Fuck yes that trailer sold me.


 No.1074

Make sure to check your emails, I have something for you but it won't be available for long (file expires in about 20 hours).


 No.1077

>>1058

>Et tu, Brute?

Nothing personal kid. From the moment she fakes sick to get Mary back to London a seed of disdain is sown.

>Great Expectations from 2011

I still haven't read this. I hate watching things before I read them. Same reason I still haven't seen Les Mis.


 No.1078

>>1077

>Nothing personal kid. From the moment she fakes sick to get Mary back to London a seed of disdain is sown.

I kinda hated her at that point too but I pretty much forgave her after Percy went to London. It was when she ratted out to her mother that she became irredeemable in my eyes.

>I still haven't read this. I hate watching things before I read them. Same reason I still haven't seen Les Mis.

Interesting. The downside is that it leads to the odious comparison between the book and the movie, but you also get more when you have the extra details a movie can't delve into given its length.


 No.1088

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>>1077

>Nothing personal kid.

Y-you too!

>From the moment she fakes sick to get Mary back to London a seed of disdain is sown.

Do I really need to point out that she is 14 or 15 at this time in the film? Or that she misses her sister, her cloest, if not only, friend? That seed of disdain of yours will not take root due to the winter of discontent brought on by the foolish exploits of Mary and Percy.

Claire did absolutely nothing wrong. Mary is a homewrecker and Percy is a piece of shit.


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 No.1090

>>1088 (checked)

>Do I really need to point out that she is 14 or 15 at this time in the film?

Absolutely old enough to know better.

>Claire did absolutely nothing wrong. Mary is a homewrecker and Percy is a piece of shit.

Claire will always do the wrong thing. Percy wrecked his own home. And Mary lived before her time.


 No.1092

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>>1088

>Claire did absolutely nothing wrong.

She did nothing right lol, except maybe get them to Geneva (but then again, they weren't actually invited until they got there).

>Mary is a homewrecker and Percy is a piece of shit.

Like webmanon said, Percy wrecked his own home. And yes, he was a piece of shit. Specially because Harriet never signed up for his bullshit, he married her and then dishonored the vows and came up with some philosophical hogwash to justify it. He only cared when Harriet killed herself. He wasn't at fault for continuing his pursuits after already being with Mary though, if the film is accurate. She too sung the praises of "free love", in real life more so (she flirted with Hogg until she got pregnant, although it seems that it never went past that).

>>1090

>And Mary lived before her time.

What do you mean by this? My non-native English skills (or lack of, more like) are showing. If you mean she was precocious, I agree.

>>1089

Looks neat, the grinder and weapon part reminds me of the knife sharpening scene from Cobra.


 No.1093

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>>1090

I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree when it comes to Claire.

IMHO Claire is best girl.

>>1092

>She did nothing right lol

Yeah, remember when Claire was a homewrecker and was a bitch to her crush’s wife, who begged her not to take her husband and the father of her child, then ran off from her family to live with her adulterer lover? Oh, that’s right, that was Mary. Oops!

If this film had been told from any other point of view, Mary might as well have been the villain. How you two can sympathise with Mary over Claire is a complete mystery to me.

Replace Jolene with Mary and this song is very relevant

>Mandy

Jeremiah looks stoned as fuck in that still, so I guess drugs will play a role in this as well.

Mandy does indeed have a scar under her left eye, indeed it looks like she might have heterochromia iridum, though it might be a trick of the light.

The title of the book ends with eye, so the full title could be The Serpent’s Eye?


 No.1094

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>>1093

>Yeah, remember when Claire was a homewrecker and was a bitch to her crush’s wife, who begged her not to take her husband and the father of her child, then ran off from her family to live with her adulterer lover? Oh, that’s right, that was Mary. Oops!

But there was no home to wreck anymore. It was Percy's wreck.

Meanwhile Claire slept with Percy behind Mary's back while she was waiting for her baby who was also Percy's and to top it off she kept acting as if nothing was happening. To quote Chanel, "she was a stupid, little trollop" and "the backstabbing little bitch got exactly what was coming to her".

Chanel #2's funeral scene comes in handy.


 No.1095

>>1093

I will concede, however, that "Jolene" is oddly fitting.


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>>1093

>Yeah, remember when Claire was a homewrecker and was a bitch to her crush’s wife, who begged her not to take her husband and the father of her child, then ran off from her family to live with her adulterer lover? Oh, that’s right, that was Mary. Oops!

>If this film had been told from any other point of view, Mary might as well have been the villain. How you two can sympathise with Mary over Claire is a complete mystery to me.

wew

what >>1094 said


 No.1099

>>1092

>What do you mean by this?

Yes, pretty much and out of place.


 No.1100

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>>1093

>Replace Jolene with Mary and this song is very relevant

I do love this song though. Miley Cyrus actually did a decent cover too.


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>>1094

>But there was no home to wreck anymore. It was Percy's wreck.

The mental gymnastics you will turn to in order to defend Mary is baffeling. You have no proof Claire slept with Percy at all; It is all slanderous speculation on your part, fuelled by a desire to defend Mary’s inexcusable actions and damage Claire’s reputation.

Even if I were to grant you that possibility (which I don’t) it doesn’t excuse what Mary did, and it only makes her look like a fool for trusting a womaniser like Percy, and she and Percy were not even married, so it would be even less of a ‘sin’ than when Mary stole someone’s husband away.

Also, Chanel #2 did literally nothing wrong, and Chanel is the last person you should be quoting to back up your claims, since she is a terrible human being.

>>1098

>wew

Could’ve done with some more smug animu grill reaction images and nervous laughter tbqh fam.

>what >>1094 said

… was pure speculation at best.

>>1099

And out of her mind too.

>>1100

>Miley Cyrus

Opinion discarded.


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>>1101

How can Claire even compete?

Pro tip she can't and won't ever be able to because she sucks


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>>1099

Now I get it.

>>1100

That was surprisingly good. I too can't stand Miley Cyrus like our friend but I can't find issue with that rendition. And it seems like that was before her full roastie turn.

>>1101

>The mental gymnastics you will turn to in order to defend Mary is baffeling.

But it's true, as Percy said they were living separately for a while already.

>You have no proof Claire slept with Percy at all; It is all slanderous speculation on your part, fuelled by a desire to defend Mary’s inexcusable actions and damage Claire’s reputation.

Oh come on, it was heavily implied. That scene where Percy goes to "calm her to sleep" and comes back almost at sunrise? Claire was backstabbing Mary all the time.

>Even if I were to grant you that possibility (which I don’t) it doesn’t excuse what Mary did, and it only makes her look like a fool for trusting a womaniser like Percy

I agree. It was foolish and it was a bitch move, and she even realized it after suffering the consequences. This scene summarizes it pretty well. What I am saying isn't that she did nothing wrong, but rather that her infatuation with Percy acted as an extenuating circumstance. She was blinded by it and acted irrationally. Her impulses got the best of her.

> and she and Percy were not even married, so it would be even less of a ‘sin’ than when Mary stole someone’s husband away

Formally yes, but she stole some stranger's husband, not her own stepsister's who gave her shelter. Claire was an almost irredeemable bitch, no way around it.

>Also, Chanel #2 did literally nothing wrong, and Chanel is the last person you should be quoting to back up your claims, since she is a terrible human being.

Are you kidding? She had to show herself up in Chanel's dreams to redeem herself and save herself from hell lol. I agree that Chanel is a terrible human being but she did nothing wrong in this occasion (except maybe gloat at the deceased during a funeral speech, but it's the right kind of wrong and the kind of thing that makes me like her so much).

Now looking at this:

>>1101

>Could’ve done with some more smug animu grill reaction images and nervous laughter tbqh fam.

>… was pure speculation at best.

>And out of her mind too.

>Opinion discarded.

>>1102

>>1103

>How can Claire even compete?

>Pro tip she can't and won't ever be able to because she sucks

Am I getting kayfabed here or are you guys unironically angry and waging a waifu war over Mary Shelley? I never imagined it'd be so polarizing lol.

Also Claire looks cute in the third pic.


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>>1105

>Am I getting kayfabed here or are you guys unironically angry and waging a waifu war over Mary Shelley?

Just a bit of fun


 No.1108

>>1107

That's a relief lol, for a moment I thought the waifu autism had got to us. Imagine having the Robertsgang split over who is best girl on Mary Shelley, kek.


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>>1107

>>1108

Peace was never an option.


 No.1124

>>1123

I really, really, really like this image.


 No.1143

I can watch one movie tomorrow, which one is next? I can't figure out if we were supposed to watch Mirror, Mirror or La dama rossa uccide sette volte.


 No.1147

>>1143

I’m good to go with La dama rossa…

Still stuck on 51% (or so) with Mirror Mirror.


 No.1150

>>1147

La dama rossa uccide sette volte is then.


 No.1154

I'll have to postpone the watching as I have to get up early tomorrow and it got late for me. I guess it'll end up being a movie afternoon.


 No.1155

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I found some neon bait to avoid, it's obviously hot trash. It's a damn shame because Maika Monroe and neon make a killer combo. But our girl has failed to secure some proper movies after The Guest which was honestly one of my favorite neon filled slashers from the last 5 years. It Follows disappointed me and this one looks bad from the trailer.

Hot Summer Nights: Set in 1991 but everything looks at the very least from the 2000s. That house party is embarrassing to watch.


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>>1155

She’s in this Netflix film too. I haven’t yet seen the trailer, but with a cast like this it might be good.


 No.1161

>>1160

>netflix

I fear it might be a ripoff of something, but I'll see if I can find a trailer.


 No.1162

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Found it, and the tagline is a pleasant surprise:

>Held captive in a futuristic smart house, a woman hopes to escape by befriending the A.I. program that controls the house.


 No.1163

>>1162

What I got from the trailer: In a way it feels like a digital Beyond the Black Rainbow without the 80s setting, with similar aesthetics but without the film look. Even the AI enforcers remind me in a way of the sentionauts. The "Julia... Julia... Julia... ANSWER ME!" reminded me of the scene where Barry bangs that pen against the clipboard to unsettle Elena (although mostly on a sound design way). I feel like they stole elements of the plot and time setting of Beyond the Black Rainbow for Stranger Things and elements of the aesthetics down to coloring and enironment design for this one.

The first part before she's taken to the facility has some very pleasing giallo qualities to it though, very Bava-esque.


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>>1162

Oh, boy. Turns out you were right in >>1161

It does seem like a ripoff trying to masquerade with pretty lights. Hey, if it worked with Stranger Things, it’ll work again, right?

It reminded me quite a bit of the God-awful Ex Machina film (Alicia Vikander, Domhnall Gleeson & Oscar Isaac), only with more action, and even less ambitious. At least they tried with Ex Machina, this just seems like yet another neon-lit sci-fi thriller trying to ride the 1980s nostalgia wave.


 No.1165

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You guys seen Zygote? It is a halfway decent, free short scifi horror film by Neill Blomkamp’s Oats Studios starring the superior Fanning sister: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKWB-MVJ4sQ


 No.1166

>>1164

>Oh, boy. Turns out you were right

Sadly yes. Even the reviews out there call it out as a knockoff. Except they point to 2OO1, probably because of not knowing BTBR.

>It reminded me quite a bit of the God-awful Ex Machina film (Alicia Vikander, Domhnall Gleeson & Oscar Isaac), only with more action, and even less ambitious. At least they tried with Ex Machina, this just seems like yet another neon-lit sci-fi thriller trying to ride the 1980s nostalgia wave.

I haven't seen that one. However, can you imagine how baffled a certain shitposter would be reading this? It's not enough to be neo 80s for a film to impress us.

>>1165

I haven't seen it, but it looks good. I dig the "dirty" aesthetics in it. I'll watch it when I have the time.

Also I prefer Elle, like NWR :^).


 No.1173

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Just got done with La dama rossa uccide sette volte. That was something!

Surprised me constantly, both in terms of action timing and in terms of who was the main suspect at different points of the movie. Needless to say, I never saw the true killer coming. I never imagined that Kitty hadn't killed Evelyn. The VW Beetle driving away after Elizabeth was killed was a major surprise too.

At one point I thought that Peter was behind the killings, then Lulu, even Herbert was a suspect at one time. And I was wrong all along. At one point I even believed that something supernatural was happening. Specially after seeing the first scenes with the little girls.

I expected Kitty to kill Peter when he forced himself on her. At least he didn't get away with it in the end. One minor flaw I find with the film is that aside from being left in a transitory state of shock, Kitty doesn't seem to be very affected by getting raped by Peter. But there's blood in the carpet so it might imply he wasn't successful and she somehow freed herself.

Also I noticed the J&B whisky product placement which I had read about some days ago. Supposedly it's almost always present in giallo films. I'll have to recheck the other ones I've watched but I'm guessing it's one of those things you can't stop noticing after you know. Which is probably a bad thing for the advertiser, as it hasn't made me crave their cheap whisky ever.

The locations, decor and wardrobes were great too, and Barbara Bouchet couldn't possibly be any more attractive. The women in general were great as usual in these productions. Also the mise-en-scène was top notch, as evidenced by this same shot. Italians surely know how to present things beautifully.

The soundtrack deserves a mention too, I love these quintessentially Italian pieces as much as I love synth-based scores. They have a charm that really elevates the movie and aids immersion.

And finally, I love the message of the movie. Everyone was deeply flawed and the situation was desperate for most of those involved, but even in the middle of that mess they manage to redeem themselves and something positive comes out in the end. They still have each other and love is the instrument that finally saves them. There's hope even after the massive tragedy.I believe this message might have been specially valuable at that time, with an Italy beset by violence and terror. And there's epic components to the film too: as flawed as they are, Herbert and Martin become heroes in the end. This movie left me very satisfied, something that isn't too easy to do.


 No.1174

>>1173

Oh and I forgot to mention that there's several parallels to be made between The Red Queen and The Red Devil, not just because of their outfits but also because of their modus operandi and brainwashing. Even their origin stories have similarities. Gigi killed the original Red Devil and Franziska killed Evelyn, the "original Red Queen" if you will.


 No.1175

Well, I checked and it seems like this was my first J&B giallo.


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 No.1180

>>1176

Turns out I looked into the wrong scenes lol, Non si sevizia un paperino effectively features J&B. But the scene I looked at had it already poured, after being shown several scenes before.

Were you the anon who posted that site in that "dubious cases of product placement" thread?


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>>1173

>>1174

I concur; it is a brilliant crime/mystery thriller that is very well done and stylish to look at.

I was very certain I had solved the case, thinking Kitty was the killer, having gone mad after the traumatic killing/accident with Eveline/Evelyn. I also assumed Herbert was involved later on, so the film managed to throw me for a loop with all the red herrings.

I wonder how much of it was filmed in Italy – all the street signs, advertisements, etc., are in German, and according to Wikipedia it was mostly shot in West Germany. The joint German/Italian production also explains the difference in names – Evelyn was called Eveline in my subtitled version, & while the subtitles said Wildenbrück, the name is written Wildenbruch in the film itself.

The exposition dump as Franziska tells what really happened to Martin was a bit too much IMHO. Also, the bat down in the cellar was way overused – it should have been seen & heard briefly in the beginning, but they went overboard with it.


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>>1174

Seeing La dama rossa uccide sette volte made me se Scream Queens in a different light as well – there are several gialli influences/homages that I missed the first time watching it. Both are crime thrillers with a whodunit type mystery with masked killers and a high bodycount.

The masked killer wearing black gloves looks to be a common trope in gialli according to Wikipedia, and the killers in both La dama rossa… and Scream Queens fit that perfectly. Similarly, the killer’s obscured voice being heard in phone calls (another common trope in gilli films) also fits both.

The necklace in La dama rossa… & the sorority ring in Scream Queens struck me as being similar – both are connected to a character’s past. The high focus on fashion is also found in both – Kitty & Martin work at a fashion house, and the Chanels are all fashion addicts. IMHO Grace is very similar to Kitty – both are blond & blue-eyed and very naïve and innocent.


 No.1191

Some funny thing I forgot to mention: I had made the "Julia kino" thread in /julia/ a couple hours before watching La dama rossa uccide sette volte and had used a picture from Closer where she is operating a Hasselblad camera. Not only the Hasselblad was prominently featured in this film but Kitty also names it at some point.

>>1188

>I was very certain I had solved the case, thinking Kitty was the killer, having gone mad after the traumatic killing/accident with Eveline/Evelyn. I also assumed Herbert was involved later on, so the film managed to throw me for a loop with all the red herrings.

Kitty was always innocent in my eyes, except when it comes to Evelyn death. Maybe it's her blinding beauty but she was never a suspect for me and even the accident took me by surprise.

>I wonder how much of it was filmed in Italy – all the street signs, advertisements, etc., are in German, and according to Wikipedia it was mostly shot in West Germany. The joint German/Italian production also explains the difference in names – Evelyn was called Eveline in my subtitled version, & while the subtitles said Wildenbrück, the name is written Wildenbruch in the film itself.

Wow, I never noticed those things. Looking at it now it was the same for me though.

Also I assumed it was all shot in West Germany with an Italian crew.

>The exposition dump as Franziska tells what really happened to Martin was a bit too much IMHO.

I don't know, it goes with the character I think. It might be a bit Scooby Doo tier though. Still, it's not much different from the confession by the Maciara in Non si sevizia un paperino, even though she was innocent of the crimes she confessed to.

>Also, the bat down in the cellar was way overused – it should have been seen & heard briefly in the beginning, but they went overboard with it.

You mean the bats as in the animals? Or am I missing something?


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>>1190

Sorry for not replying to this earlier, I didn't see it when I made my post.

I totally agree that there's a lot of giallo elements in Scream Queens, to the point that the show cinematographer Michael Goi talks about the Mario Bava influence.

>The necklace in La dama rossa… & the sorority ring in Scream Queens struck me as being similar – both are connected to a character’s past.

I hadn't thought of the ring that way but now that you mention it it's a very giallo thing to have.

>The high focus on fashion is also found in both – Kitty & Martin work at a fashion house, and the Chanels are all fashion addicts.

I love the focus on fashion circles, it enhances the immersion for some reason and makes a good excuse to have some beautiful imagery going on. We saw this on The Neon Demon too. Maybe it's so intriguing because of how disconnected one is from that world.

In a similar vein, if you want to see a whodunit giallo featuring a black-gloved serial killer and Flashdance exploitation, try Murderock - Uccide a passo di danza by Lucio Fulci. A dance school gets targeted by a killer with a very particular method of killing the victims. Carpenter Brut featured footage from it in his Le Perv video. It's very tame in terms of gore (specially for Fulci) but he somehow makes the killings terrifying.

It stars Olga Karlatos, one of the most beautiful actresses in giallo (I probably like her even more than Barbara Bouchet, but it's a tough call). Pic related is her.

There's no shortage of qts, leotards and leg warmers. Pure 80s goodness.

Don't watch the Carpenter Brut video if you don't want spoilers.

>IMHO Grace is very similar to Kitty – both are blond & blue-eyed and very naïve and innocent.

I think find her more similar to Rosemary. Being manipulated into becoming a killer and ending up completely crazy.


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Eastman, I assume you have seen Dagon, am I right to do so? If not, we could add it to the list. But Macarena Gómez and Lovecraftian kino sound like a combination you couldn't have possibly missed.

There's a movie featuring her called Las brujas de Zugarramurdi (The Witches of Zugarramurdi in English, but the official English title is Witching and Bitching, the name references a Basque witch cult that got busted by the Spanish Inquisition, some even killed their own sons to appease the devil) which is completely bizarre and features her too. I haven't watched it but I've seen some clips on /tv/ after I made a shitpost about the Venus of Willendorf. In the movie, there's a giant Venus of Willendorf that is alive, living in the caves the witches used to dwell in and eats people. It might be worth watching if only for the sheer bizarreness of it. I know it features a pawn shop robbery too, seems like it might be one hell of a roller coaster. From what I got, the robber used to be married to Macarena's character who happens to be the daughter of the witch. It bridges horror, comedy, thriller and drama. It has a high chance of being bad, but I get a feeling that even if bad it'll be comically bad. And Macarena is looking hot.

<IMDb storyline: On the run from the Police, a gang of armed robbers finds a safe haven in a secluded village crammed with witches, only to encounter the bizarre, the unexpected and the occult.


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>>1191

>Hasselblad

I am not as familiar with cameras/photography as you, the only thing I know about Hasselblad cameras is that they are really good, expensive, and were used during the Apollo moon-landing missions.

I wasn’t convinced by Ketty’s innocence look at first – I was almost certain something traumatic had happened that pushed her over the edge; this trauma was being exploited by someone who knew about her trauma (the death of Eveline, and used the legend of the Black & Red queens to make her do it. The phone calls with someone pretending to be Eveline could be their way of hypnotising her into carrying out these heinous murders.

>Wow, I never noticed those things.

According to the Italian Wikipedia article, the names of the main players are: Martin Hoffmann, Ketty Wildenbrück, Rose Mary Müller, Tobias Wildenbrück (the grandfather), Franziska Wildenbrück, isp. Toller (ie police inspector Toller), Lulù Palm, Herbert, Petar & Hans Mayer.

>You mean the bats as in the animals?

Quite so! That flapping bat popping in at the top of the frame all the time didn’t annoy you? It easily stole the scene and drained the tension. Once or twice in the first scene would have been OK, maybe hear it and see the shadow later on, but it ended up being a scene-stealer. It is nigh impossible to make fake bats look good in film, so they should not have run it into the ground.

>>1200

>to the point that the show cinematographer Michael Goi talks about the Mario Bava influence.

I would have loved to have audio commentary tracks with the cast & crew on Scream Queens. I am almost surprised Goi didn’t mention La dama rossa… as a influence on the show as well.

After La dama rossa… I kinda want to see Sergio Martino’s Tutti i colori del buio, also from 1972.

>I think find her more similar to Rosemary.

Ugh, I was not a fan of that plotwist in S2. I think it would have been more interesting if she started taking after her mother and become a vain, scheming asshole – history repeats itself, and she would take after her mother more and more, and broke her father’s heart seeing the girl he had raised alone turn into a shallow, snide bitch who’d kill to stay popular.

Just yesterday I noticed Grace is wearing a Kappa Kappa Tau pin on her coat…


 No.1204

File: 7de9a3fc96511bc⋯.jpg (191.24 KB, 1407x791, 201:113, Dagon - Uxía.jpg)

File: 3ecf7e0fe26cbe2⋯.jpg (120.51 KB, 701x1000, 701:1000, sexykiller.jpg)

>>1202

I have seen Dagon – multiple times in fact. I am OK with the change of location (New England to Spain), and I’m not even bothered by the film being set in modern day (2001). What did bother me was that Gordon completely missed the point of the story – IMHO it is blindingly obvious that Lovecraft wrote the story as a warning to what happens when you allow a foreign, hostile religion to take hold – one that wants to overthrow humanity – and when you mix races. This was all done away with, and instead we have a typical horror film with tentacles and monsters.

Macarena is really good in it though, she easily steal every scene she is in, giving 110% every time.

I found a torrent of Sexykiller today, with English subtitles; hopefully it isn’t dead.

Las brujas de Zugarramurdi looks like a crazy, fun comedy, almost like Kung Fu Hustle almost, in terms of sheer madness. Gonna look it up; even if it is bad-bad, I need my Macarena fix.


 No.1206

File: 5f6a4f4f04fc917⋯.jpg (703.09 KB, 1260x992, 315:248, medium format vs 35mm.jpg)

>>1203

>I am not as familiar with cameras/photography as you, the only thing I know about Hasselblad cameras is that they are really good, expensive, and were used during the Apollo moon-landing missions.

The reason they're so notable is because they shoot in Medium Format, which is a rather big film for you compared to the more common 35mm.

You can see how they're used here, it's quite peculiar as they have a viewfinder you can use to frame your picture without holding the camera next to your face:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQBHzvWZvZ0

I believe there was a Hasselblad in The Blackcoat's Daughter too, but I didn't want to go full autism for no good reason.

I wasn’t convinced by Ketty’s innocence look at first – I was almost certain something traumatic had happened that pushed her over the edge; this trauma was being exploited by someone who knew about her trauma (the death of Eveline, and used the legend of the Black & Red queens to make her do it. The phone calls with someone pretending to be Eveline could be their way of hypnotising her into carrying out these heinous murders.

That would have been quite the twist for me and I'd have been very surprised to see it turn that way (even though I've seen similar things in other gialli).

>According to the Italian Wikipedia article, the names of the main players are: Martin Hoffmann, Ketty Wildenbrück, Rose Mary Müller, Tobias Wildenbrück (the grandfather), Franziska Wildenbrück, isp. Toller (ie police inspector Toller), Lulù Palm, Herbert, Petar & Hans Mayer.

Sounds like it matches the subtitles so I'd have still missed it lol (I didn't pay much attention to the things written on the signs). Probably because they were gone rather quickly and because I don't speak German.

>Quite so! That flapping bat popping in at the top of the frame all the time didn’t annoy you? It easily stole the scene and drained the tension. Once or twice in the first scene would have been OK, maybe hear it and see the shadow later on, but it ended up being a scene-stealer. It is nigh impossible to make fake bats look good in film, so they should not have run it into the ground.

Not really. Maybe I was too tired to notice lol.

>I would have loved to have audio commentary tracks with the cast & crew on Scream Queens. I am almost surprised Goi didn’t mention La dama rossa… as a influence on the show as well.

Imagine Our Muse's cute comments and her giggles <3

>After La dama rossa… I kinda want to see Sergio Martino’s Tutti i colori del buio, also from 1972.

Sounds like a good addition to the list. Also have you downloaded Amer yet? Webmanon already confirmed to me that he has it.

>Ugh, I was not a fan of that plotwist in S2. I think it would have been more interesting if she started taking after her mother and become a vain, scheming asshole – history repeats itself, and she would take after her mother more and more, and broke her father’s heart seeing the girl he had raised alone turn into a shallow, snide bitch who’d kill to stay popular.

That would kill me lol

>Just yesterday I noticed Grace is wearing a Kappa Kappa Tau pin on her coat…

Nice catch!

>>1204

>I have seen Dagon – multiple times in fact. I am OK with the change of location (New England to Spain), and I’m not even bothered by the film being set in modern day (2001). What did bother me was that Gordon completely missed the point of the story – IMHO it is blindingly obvious that Lovecraft wrote the story as a warning to what happens when you allow a foreign, hostile religion to take hold – one that wants to overthrow humanity – and when you mix races. This was all done away with, and instead we have a typical horror film with tentacles and monsters.

>Macarena is really good in it though, she easily steal every scene she is in, giving 110% every time.

I guess I was right in my assumptions lol. Sounds like a must-watch BTW.

>I found a torrent of Sexykiller today, with English subtitles; hopefully it isn’t dead.

Interesting, maybe a Spanish one would work with separate subs too.

>Las brujas de Zugarramurdi looks like a crazy, fun comedy, almost like Kung Fu Hustle almost, in terms of sheer madness. Gonna look it up; even if it is bad-bad, I need my Macarena fix.

I'd say it looks even crazier than Kung Fu Hustle. I mean, the Venus of Willendorf is in it lol. It's a miracle that I came across it, thanks to shitposting about The Young Pope. I got banned for that thread because of how offtopic it looked (it was a pic of the Venus of Willendorf and the only text was "Thoughts?"). I explained my endgame in the ban appeal and the based mods lifted the ban. That was a few months ago, like in December or maybe even February. A few days ago I looked it up again after coming across the same pic from the thread that got me banned that time and found out that Macarena was in it (I was oblivious to her existence before you promoted her here lol).


 No.1209

>>1203

Also thanks a lot for making that beautiful webm man, I loved that scene. For some reason I find it very touching and endearing. It moves me even though it'd be almost an everyday activity for people in the fashion business. Is it the music? Is it the Italian voices? The cinematography? The fact that it happened just after the murders and yet they found the strength to carry on? The nostalgia for the era and culture (Hiraeth, as you taught me the Welsh say)? Is it all of the above? I can't say for certain, but the scene speaks to me on an emotional level so I'm very thankful to you for making this webm.


 No.1214

File: 378d9bd96a33a6f⋯.webm (1.33 MB, 720x302, 360:151, La dama rossa uccide sett….webm)

File: b33cf79c7bf9737⋯.mp4 (9.42 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Bruno Nicolai - Preludio &….mp4)

File: 3db3aaffe3c01de⋯.jpg (116.13 KB, 545x850, 109:170, 124342011969426600.jpg)

File: 55cb16e9a1b5005⋯.jpg (118.01 KB, 500x690, 50:69, s13881.jpg)

>>1209

It is one of my favourite scenes in the film, along with this beautiful zoom on the grandfather going thru the monstrous statue.

I think it is the sum of all those things that contribute to the feeling (of hiraeth) – the Italian language, the scenery, the nostalgia of the clothes, & cars, &c., and of course the music. The soundtrack in this film is really something else – a very pleasant surprise.

It is really beautiful to see these older European films, they have a type of feel and class to them that American film of the same decade can’t produce.

I recognised one of the drawn posters for La dama rossa uccide sette volte as the cover for the second volume of reprinted EC Comics horror comics that were published here in the late 1990s in pocketbook format.

>>1206

Several of my family members are into photography, and I have dabbled myself, but I don’t have the knack for it I think. I still have an old Yashica Minister II camera, as well as a digital camera. Whenever I write fiction I do tend to give my characters a hobby, and I do tend to fall back on photography. Have you seen Gus Van Sant’s Elephant from 2003? One of the main characters is a hobby photographer in high school and we get to see him in the dark room developing his photos.

I’ll hopefully finish DL-ing Amer tonight – I’ve bad two films in a row stop at 99,98% now, and it is really pissing me off. Sadly the Sexykiller torrent turned out to be way dead.

Also, we should probably give a heads up to WebMAnon about the rampant Scream Queens spoilers we’ve posted as of late.


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 No.1217

>>1214

>It is one of my favourite scenes in the film, along with this beautiful zoom on the grandfather going thru the monstrous statue.

That was a very nice one too. Also the scene where they drive down the highway. The shots of the castle were gorgeous as well.

>I think it is the sum of all those things that contribute to the feeling (of hiraeth) – the Italian language, the scenery, the nostalgia of the clothes, & cars, &c., and of course the music. The soundtrack in this film is really something else – a very pleasant surprise.

I agree.The looks and voices of the girls help too.

>It is really beautiful to see these older European films, they have a type of feel and class to them that American film of the same decade can’t produce.

Definitely. There's a refinement that is seldom found outside them.

>I recognised one of the drawn posters for La dama rossa uccide sette volte as the cover for the second volume of reprinted EC Comics horror comics that were published here in the late 1990s in pocketbook format.

Very nice. Does it include a comic version of La dama rossa uccide sette volte ?

>Several of my family members are into photography, and I have dabbled myself, but I don’t have the knack for it I think.

I think it's a matter of doing it until you get the hang of it. I started trying to get cool pics with my phone and went from there.

>I still have an old Yashica Minister II camera, as well as a digital camera.

That's cool as hell! Even though it's less cool than I imagined when I read "Mamiya", I assumed you had a medium format camera. Still, rangefinders are a neat little thing.

What kind of digital camera do you have? If it works properly, isn't too bulky and is some way superior to your phone camera you should probably start carrying it around, ready to capture a beautiful image you come across. Try going out at the golden hour, the surroundings often look the most photogenic at that time. There's sites that give you the time window for a given day of the year on a given point of the planet. Don't worry too much about film until you've learned by trial and error on digital.

>Whenever I write fiction I do tend to give my characters a hobby, and I do tend to fall back on photography. Have you seen Gus Van Sant’s Elephant from 2003? One of the main characters is a hobby photographer in high school and we get to see him in the dark room developing his photos.

I haven't seen it. I'll look it up.

>I’ll hopefully finish DL-ing Amer tonight – I’ve bad two films in a row stop at 99,98% now

You haven't checked your email, have you? ;) We don't depend on torrents anymore for that film.

>Also, we should probably give a heads up to WebMAnon about the rampant Scream Queens spoilers we’ve posted as of late.

Wasn't it him bringing up the KKT ring? I thought he had finished watching at this point lol.


 No.1223

I wanted to watch Mirror, Mirror this weekend but ended up too tired to watch anything after a day-long trip on Saturday.

What I did watch was The Mirror by Andrei Tarkovsky on Friday. It was a mind blowing experience and the screen was filled with images I didn't think that were possible with 70s film stock, specially when it comes to the black and white parts. The camerawork is amazing too, employing some of the most beautiful and clever cinematography I've ever seen.

The complex knitted web of events depicted in the film is hard to make sense of, with a non-linearity that dwarfs any other examples I can think of.. Four lives narrated in the same film by making use of anecdotes from each life (that sometimes crosses with the other lives) in an almost arbitrary order. There's absolutely no hand holding of the viewer in it. It made me feel like a brainlet at moments. And some of the historic events referenced make everything even harder to keep track of. This film deserves all the praise it gets, and even more.

Also the lead actress is a thief, she stole both the screen and my heart.

>>1216

I guess there's only one way to know: by watching it.


 No.1224

File: 3b2a857236a8e37⋯.webm (9.2 MB, 720x388, 180:97, Nosferatu – Phantom der N….webm)

>>1217

>The shots of the castle were gorgeous as well.

Indeed! The entire scene where the grandfather being killed was terrific - it reminded me quite a lot of the scene in Werner Herzog’s Nosferatu – Phantom der Nacht, with Lucy (Isabelle Adjani) wakes up and senses that her husband is in grave danger; even down to the ambient sounds.

>Does it include a comic version of La dama rossa uccide sette volte?

Sadly no; it contains only reprints of the three EC Comics horror comics (The Haunt of Fear, Tales from the Crypt & The Vault of Horror) from the 1950s. The stories drawn by “Ghastly” Graham Ingels are very good and if you can find them, they are well worth a read/look.

>That's cool as hell!

Quite so! It was cheap, and it does the job quite well.

http://web.archive.org/web/20180123225116/https://www.35mmc.com/26/12/2017/5-frames-65-yashica-minister-ii-malcolm/

>What kind of digital camera do you have?

Oh, just a cheap one I bought some years back. I haven’t used it in quite a while, having instead taken to use my mobile camera.

>You haven't checked your email, have you? ;) We don't depend on torrents anymore for that film.

Oops! I already finished DL-ing it. I also finished Las brujas de Zugarramurdi, and I was surprised to see the film has Norwegian subtitles included when I checked! w00t!

>Wasn't it him bringing up the KKT ring? I thought he had finished watching at this point lol.

Nope; all me. I I haven’t heard from WebMAnon in a while now… Think he’s OK? There are a lot of dangerous critters Down Under – crocs, snakes, wogs, sharks, spiders, octopi, other Aussies…


 No.1228

File: 9bd9ac04973ce41⋯.mp4 (11.79 MB, 1920x816, 40:17, autostrada.mp4)

>>1188

Just noticed something, my version says "The End" instead of "Fine". By the way, I found the "scene where peope drive down the highway", I thought it was around the time of the van scene but I was wrong. Video related.

>>1224

>Indeed! The entire scene where the grandfather being killed was terrific - it reminded me quite a lot of the scene in Werner Herzog’s Nosferatu – Phantom der Nacht, with Lucy (Isabelle Adjani) wakes up and senses that her h