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aa91d0 No.730

So I'm getting started in investing. Right now I don't have a lot of money. I have $1k in the bank and another $2k that I received for doing a special job. I planned to save all of this, but I figure inflation is going to kill it long term.

I want to get into investing in order to start saving for retirement. In the past, I have lived in the street and only now am I getting on my feet. I save $360 per month. I know it's a paltry sum, but I have to start somewhere.

However, looking into it, it seems that in response to the Chinese devaluation of currency, we might start to see a race to the botton. So the question is:

Do I buy now, or later? If the market is indeed about to undergo a correction, then it's better not to get into it now and wait until it bottoms out.

On the other hand, if the dollar goes through a devaluation like it did in the past fifteen years, then it might be more advantageous to simply get into it now, depending on the numbers (which I haven't gotten into yet.)

What does /biz/ think?

Apologies in advance if this is beyond retarded. I've only just started learning about money and how it might work.

a65c5c No.732

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Well, the problem at hand (as best as I can determine) is that we're in the same situation we were in back in '08, if you recall there was a lot of panic about the banking system imploding from them panicking and recalling all their loans. So what the Fed/gov't had to do was print as much money as they could at the lowest interest rates possible so there'd be so much 'capital' available banks could 'stay in business' by making easy loans without having to care so much about losing money vs people defaulting on said loans. Since banks were borrowing at a 0.25% rate, and probably lending >3%, they had a much wider margin of error.

However the whole underlying structure of the banking system is flawed (creating money as taxpayer-debt), which QE and indeed central banking POLICY cannot address altogether. So we're pretty much right back where we were back in '08, except MORE overleveraged. The actual problem is still here, and it has only gotten worse. So the banks are going to crash harder.

I had a chance to talk to a live hedge fund manager (something like ~18m under assets) and he is SHORT the market right now.

You should hold your cash as cash, although I wish I could tell you if it's save to hold in a bank, for example Greeks had their bank accounts frozen and then were forcibly kept from withdrawing more than ~80eur/day. However that's Greece, we're in America who are the people who created this mess in the first place, the WORLD's banking system is reliant on us so if shit goes down we're the last to go. The $USD is the global reserve currency, meaning a majority of global trade is denominated in USD. So if banks go down, everyone's gonna flee into $USD currency, meaning we'll actually be seeing DEFLATION first. Hold your cash as cash, where to hold it i'm not quite sure. Personally I have some in a money-market fund with a brokerage, go ahead and google what that is. Assuming it will hold value throughout the happening, I'll move into some good stocks (FB and BABA are two I want most), and THEN once that whole panic of the market crashing wears off we'll see the trend reverse, and THEN we'll see uncontrollable inflation on the $USD, probably not hyperinflation though. USA isn't going to just explode, we're merely going from #1 to #3 or 5 or whatever. We're just being knocked down a peg, which is HUGE yes and will cause great turmoil within the markets, but we're still wholly relevant as part of the global economy. That's probably what these TPP deals are about, we're trying to lock in trade agreements with other superpowers because frankly that's the only hope the ruling elite of this country have left. The notion that taxpayers will be able to shoulder the debt they drew upon us is ludicrous at the point they've taken it to.

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a65c5c No.733

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Postan relevant youtubes doom n gloom youtubes.


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a65c5c No.739

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>>738

that rickards one is great btw, i love the guy. he makes a great analogy on how the federal reserve and fiat money functions, i'll paraphrase:

"Suppose I have this pen here, if I drop it what do you think will happen? Well it'll fall to the ground and i'll have to bend down and pick it up. The Fed has a model where I let go of the pen and it floats to the ceiling."

The entire banking system we have today is based off the assumption that you can create money from nothing, loan it into the general public who'll put it to use, who generate a return that goes back to the banks so the process can continue ad infinitum. This money they printed is loaned *at interest*, meaning there will ALWAYS be more debt in the system than currency to repay it. They literally see nothing wrong with this, and argue that if that debt is managed they can eternally stimulate the economy. In reality they only fuel bubbles and mass hype.

The more you learn about how this system works the more disgusted you will become. They are literally enriching themselves by drawing money backed by supposed future income from taxpayers. It's absolutely biased towards their own gain, and the working public has been stiffed of a functional society for it.


aa91d0 No.759

Thanks for the advice guys. I have a safe deposit box in the bank, which is where I will be putting some cash. I also thought about diversifying with Euros and so on, but I don't think it will be necessary, and the dollar is universal.


070869 No.765

>>759

That's a good idea, using a safety deposit box to hold cash. Kinda ironic but yeah.. it'd work. And you're correct, diversifying in forex is kinda silly. I hear the Hong Kong dollar is decent though, it's currently keeping a peg to the USD so apparently.. if the USD finally gets inflation and the economy around Hong Kong starts booming you'll be on the upper side. Except deflation on USD is more likely initially, so whatever man just keep your eyes open and watch what's happening.




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