No.1919
MOD EDIT
Thanks to our resident artist, now you can be a sad frog in more than just the emotional sense
https://www.etsy.com/listing/246197709/smug-meme-frog-halloween-mask?ref=shop_home_active_1
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So guys. I'm a classically trained sculptor (a pretty fucking good one too) and have been a /pol/ack for many years now. If someone hypothetically made a statue that somehow promoted /pol/ propaganda and placed it in various public places what should said statue be? Anyone have any good ideas?
Link related. This kind of stuff can get people's attention. Will copy/paste article in next post so you faggots don't have to give them clicks.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/06/us-usa-new-york-snowden-park-idUSKBN0MX16020150406
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No.1920
A group of anonymous artists erected a 4-foot-tall bronze statue of Edward Snowden, the former U.S. spy agency contractor famous for leaking classified information, in a New York City park overnight, officials said on Monday.
The large molded bust of Snowden, depicted wearing a collared shirt and his signature glasses, was placed atop a stone pillar that is part of an existing monument at Fort Greene Park in Brooklyn, photos posted to social media showed.
The name "Snowden" spelled out in bronze letters appeared to be attached to an adjacent shorter pedestal on top of which sits a bronze bald eagle spreading its wings, a statue that has long made its home in the park.
The idea for the statue was conceived by two New York guerilla artists who worked with a West Coast sculptor to create the finished piece, reported Animal New York, a local news and culture blog, which was invited to witness the late-night installation.
The artists, whose names were not disclosed, said they sympathized with Snowden, the former U.S. National Security Agency contractor who leaked details of massive U.S. intelligence-gathering programs and remains in hiding in Russia, and intended to pay tribute to him with the installation.
"Our goal is to bring a renewed vitality to the space and prompt even more visitors to ponder the sacrifices made for their freedoms," they said in a statement published by the blog.
"We hope this inspires them to reflect upon the responsibility we all bear to ensure our liberties exist long into the future," they said.
By late afternoon on Monday, park officials removed the illegal statue, which park workers had covered with a blue tarp. Park spokeswoman Maeri Ferguson said park officials were deciding what to do with it. Ferguson did not say whether park property had been damaged.
City police said they were investigating.
(Reporting by Laila Kearney; Editing by Barbara Goldberg, Lisa Lambert and Eric Beech)
No.1921
No.1924
You could make one of that old german woman who was recently arrested after arguing against the holocaust on national TV
There's a thread stickied on >>>/pol/
I bet a german anon, or someone you select for deutche /pol/ could help you
She's an 89 year old woman who had her house raided because she publicly declaimed the narrative, this should be made into a huge issue - it's insane
https://8ch.net/pol/res/2253411.html
No.1926
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>>1924
While that whole incident in Germany is terrible, I'm not sure that's a good idea for what I'm talking about. We all know about it but I'm pretty sure if you built a monument to her the average person on the street would have no idea who she was and would just walk by without giving it a second thought. Also, that's just one isolated incident. We need something that is reusable. Even if it was just something basic like a statue of the happy merchant with some very damning Talmud quotes or something on it. Statues are very time consuming and expensive to make which is why we need something reusable. Once I make a mold of the original sculpture I can probably churn out at least a hundred copies. So we need to figure out something good that will remain relevant for a good while and that isn't just the incident of the week.
Please help me brainstorm here anons. I'll bet we can come up with something that'll really stir things up if we try.
No.1927
>>1926
And how many people would recognize snowden from a bust?
The point is that when the statue geta taken down by the authorities everyone will know who it was for - they'll reportit. The reason the snowden statue got famous is because it was rwmoved and reported on, let's do tue same here
This will bring the issue to loight quite effectively - all the better because it will bring to mind the other whistleblower snowden
A generically anti-semitic ststue would be repellent to everyone not already on our side and would infact play into the enemies hands
We want to draw attention to the fact that the homes of little old ladies are being raided, their books burned all because they dare question the official narrative
No.1928
Like >>1924 said
We could tak to deutchpol and ship the statues off to them to set up in public places
I'd even help set up some way to transfer bitcoin funds for the shipping cost
Or you could ship out molds to make it cheaper
No.1929
No.1931
>>1927
Hmm. It may be worth doing. However, I would argue that when Snowden leaked all of that information there was a big media frenzy about it so yeah more people would recognize him. I imagine this story about the German woman is likely to get swept under the rug and not widely reported on like Snowden was because it brings the Jews negative attention. Doing a quick google of the German woman brings up mostly white nationalist websites and conspiracy forum type stuff. I didn’t see a single mainstream news source reporting on it whereas everyone was reporting on Snowden. So whereas almost everyone has heard of Snowden I don’t think anyone outside of the White Nationalist community has probably heard of this woman or would pay it any attention. Remember, the Jews control the media. Even if someone puts up a statue of the German woman it’s unlikely the media would report on it because it makes the Jews look bad. If I thought they would definitely report on it then by all means I’d be up for it. It seems unlikely to me though. Any other anons want to weigh in on this idea?
I want to be clear that I’m not completely discounting the idea. But let’s really think things through here and throw around some more ideas as well before we make any definite decisions.
No.1932
>>1931
It's not been widely reported on, but a well done publicity stunt could change that
Afyer all, they let her on TV once before
As for other ideas…
I think that effective works would fall into two categories: Publicity stunts and support
The case of the german woman would fall under the first, that is, a work that piggybacked on some outrageor current trend to bring light to a particular issue
As for the second, have you considered simply making beautiful art and donating it to folk organizations, nationalists or other likeminded parties?
The good of this will be three fold: to increase your own ability and renown (I would very much like to see more artists with our sentiments in play, and also it can help to chamge the art scene), to spread beauty out into the world (I think beauty is the most important thing, it's what makes life worth living), and it would provide a morale boost to these organizations to see new comrades working for the cause - you would help to spur their efforts
No.1933
>>1931
Oh, also just FYI I'm currently saving pictures of her for reference if we decide for sure to go that route. If any anons have good pics of her from as many different angles as possible for reference purposes then post them here. I'm thinking if we do that then a large scale portrait may be the way to go. That would make shipping it to German anons much easier than doing a full figure and it wouldn't take as long to make.
No.1934
>>1933
Pergaps a stencil with the word 'Oma' under it (I'd heard the name used in the thread, I assume it's a nickname or a shortening of some kind)
Stencils make it easy for the message to be spread - send the template out to /pol/ and SF and othera could get involved
And, just rambling along in that vein, stencils could be useful in general - I've never seen a political stencil thewad in pol, but it would be very useful for street activism
No.1935
>>1932
I can't just donate art to tons of organizations for free anon. This is my profession. Non-degenrate, traditional art is a lot of work and isn't cheap to make. I've got bills to pay just like everyone else.
No.1936
>>1935
I understand, perhaps even contacting them to see if they are interested in buying your work
I imagine that they would be the perfect clientele and the broader purpose would still be served
And I hope I don't come across as imperious
No.1937
Show us some of your work!
No.1938
>>1937
>Showing work that could identify me outside of 8chan.
Nice try schlomo.
No.1945
Make a paragon of a male specimen surrounded by and being attacked by feminist & faggots and fighting back. The male specimen will be a work of art while the degenerate part will have a shitty impressionist or new age art style.
No.1946
No.1947
>>1945
OP here. That would actually be pretty badass.
MFW
No.1948
>>1947
>>1945
Bonus points if the "new age" is made out of trash while the male is made out of high quality materials.
No.1950
>>1948
You, sir, are a genius.
No.1962
>>1945
>>1948
Ilikeitmug.gif
>>1938
Not the poster from before, but… How bout a quick sketch? Nothing identifiable… Or maybe I hung out in too many half Chan pol draw threads
No.1976
>>1962
OP here. Srry broseph. Anything that's worth showing is going in my portfolio which means it would be identifiable. Also for the record I can draw pretty well, but my sculpture skill is far past my drawing skill. A sketch wouldn't be a good representation of my ability with sculpture. When I decide for sure what /pol/-related thing I'm doing I'll definitely post progress pics though.
If anyone else has any other good ideas keep throwing them at me. I'm liking that last one pretty good though.
No.1978
>>1976
DEUS VULT
Also, make an Atlas Stone in your spare time and get swole
No.1981
>>1945
I like what I'm reading
>>1947
make it happen you glorious bastard
No.2034
>>1945
>>1946
>>1947
>>1948
>>1950
>>1962
>>1981
>paragon of a male specimen
>(and his heraldry)
No.2037
No.2049
>>1945
>>1948
OP again. Alright. I'm going to officially do this. I'm only gonna be able to do it at a 36" scale right now because I don't have the funds for life size (shit gets expensive as fuck). It's not gonna be done overnight. With all the other stuff I have going on it'll probably be a project over a few months. Somebody screencap this thread. Admins can delete it if they want and I'll start a new one when I have progress pics to show. OP will deliver!…it'll just take a while.
No.2055
No.2163
>MFW This Thread
Wish you luck OP. Can't wait to see the results!
No.2184
>>2049
CAN SOMEONE KICKSTARTER OR PATREON THIS SHIT?
No.2198
Godspeed OP, I wish you best of luck. Since I doubt I'll be able to go wherever you end up placing this. I humbly ask that you share pictures. So we can spread your art across the web.
No.2200
No.2225
OP here. I have an armature put together but I have to go buy some plywood for the base. Also I ordered a few gallons of moldmaking silicone for the project. Will keep updating as I progress.
On an unrelated note, I started throwing this together this morning for lulz. Any anons interested in a smug pepe halloween mask?
No.2229
Take something inspired by classical antiquity but with the outer trappings of space Aryanism, like LOTGH. At the core, something that is eternal regardless of what decade.
No.2230
>>2225
That's based as Hell. If that's for sale, I may purchase it for a buddy's birthday.
No.2231
>>2230
Once I finish it and get some masks cast/painted I'll throw them up on etsy. It's a pretty simple sculpt so it shouldn't take me long to finish.
No.2232
More progress on the Pepe mask. I can probably get it all finished and textured tomorrow and mold it the next day.
Any of you anons have any ideas on how to sell anonymously without doing all the bitcoin wallet crap? If I throw this up on my regular etsy I'm sure some tumblrfag will doxx me and burn my house down.
No.2233
>>2229
I had been thinking about doing something somewhat reminiscent of Bernini's David. Thoughts?
No.2234
>>1934
>Oma
that's he German equivalent of grandma
No.2247
>>2232
post a throwaway email made at cock.li in this thread and have it paid for through paypal and have it shipped from not your house
No.2256
>>2232
I want a Moon Man mask.
No.2269
>>2256
OP again. Apparently somebody already made one.
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/moon-man-mask-funny-macdonald-moon-latex/171512151.html
I could make a much better one though. Also update on the Pepe mask. I'm texturing it now. I'm going to go to the hardware store either tomorrow or the next day for some more fiberglass matte so I can mold it.
No.2275
>>2269
You could become the meme-mask mogul!
Clad us in armor for the meme war O armorer.
No.2276
Smug Pepe sculpt is done. Just sprayed it down with some crystal clear. When it dries I'm gonna start doing the mold.
No.2277
>>2276
Man that Pepe looks evil. Good job.
No.2279
No.2288
>>2276
Can you actually sell that as a mask so I can be Pepe for Halloween?
No.2289
No.2293
REALISTIC SCULPTURE OF EBOLA-CHAN ON PINK MARBLE WHEN?
No.2294
>>2233
>David
He doesn't look Jewish…
No.2296
>>2232
bitcoin wallets are easy as fuck to set up man
No.2297
>>2049
I live near boston and I'll put one up in the boston public garden right next to paul revere (pic related)
No.2321
OP again. Sorry I havn't posted in several days. I've been tied up with some other projects and whatnot. Havn't finished molding the Pepe mask yet. Hopefully if everything goes well I should be able to get a few mask pulls out in the next several days. I make no promises but I'll do my best. And yes I do intend to sell them when I get enough of them cast and painted.
No.2327
OP with an update: I just finished demolding and cleaning clay out of the mold. MFW the mold came out pretty much perfect. Gonna try and cast the first mask tomorrow.
No.2330
>>2327
Good luck Sculptor-chan~!
No.2340
Just got the first pull out. I ran out of latex (don't worry I ordered another 2 gallons the other day) so this pull is a little too thin. There was a slight issue with the resin I used for the mold and a few little spots warped (wont be using that brand again). This results in a few little extra bumps on the surface of the mask but thankfully they pretty much work into the design since I had already put on a few little frog warts and stuff. This pull obviously hasn't had the seam lines or anything cleaned up yet. Also because this first pull is a throwaway I just kinda quickly and jaggedly cut the eyeholes out. This is fresh out of the mold.
No.2345
>>2340
Holy shit my sides
Fucking GOOD LUCK Sculptor-chan!!
No.2346
Anyone else have any good mask ideas/requests? I would love to do Moonman but I'm afraid Mcdonalds would slap me with a cease and desist. You can get yourself in a lot of trouble with copyrighted stuff.
No.2354
>>2340
Very nice
But not smug enough :^)
No.2356
>>2346
What about good ol' Benny G?
No.2362
>>2356
OP here.
That would actually be pretty damn funny. I'll consider that one.
<wall of text incoming>
Ok so I finally got my ass over to the hardware store and picked up some plywood for the base of the figure. What I want to do for the "paragon of a male specimen" is base the figure's build and facial appearance off of the Aryan figures sculpted by Arno Breker (pics related) but make the pose much more dynamic like a bernini figure.
Now, what I decided I want to do with the figure is have him punching out another figure that embodies all of the "degenerate" and "shitty impressionist or new age art styles" like that other anon said. I want it to just be one figure that's getting punched out because anything more would be too much for me considering I have basically no funds for this project.
This figure getting punched out should be made up of nothing but references to various degenerate art. So my question to you anons is what references would you like to see? Is there any notable degenerate art that really pisses you off? I was thinking the face at least could be a reference to Picasso's Les Desmoiselles D'Avignon where he made the faces look like shitty african masks. Everyone in art school loved to jerk off to that shitty painting. I'm definitely going to throw a Judy Chicago reference in there too.
Any ideas are welcome.
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No.2366
>>2362
How about an individual that embodies all that we oppose? That being Marxism, SJWs, Feminism, Modernism, Consumerism, Jewish influence, etc.
You could have a little piece of all of that on the individual being punched to show our enemy as many scattered groups. While our embodiment would be wearing one style/fashion of clothing, with one symbol, and no branding outside of that.
That not only shows our will to fight all of them off, but our own unity, and their discord and division.
No.2368
>>2366
Ok, but I'm talking visuals here. What specific things would you anons like visualized in the figure of our enemy?
Of course marxism, sjws, feminism, etc etc. But do you anons have any good ideas of how to represent that visually? I mean I can figure out a good way I'm sure but it's good to get other opinions.
If nobody has any good ideas I'll figure it out. If anyone does though please don't hesitate to post it.
No.2373
>>2368
personally i have a particular hateboner for the guy in the first two related pics
one dimensional, in your face symbolism, shit execution …
but OH it's against facism and thus immune to any critique - because only nadsis would critique anti facist art and you aren't a nadsi, are you?
also frank stella, needs no comment
the good thing about mimicing degenerate styles is:
you need zero effort to communicate the figure being torn apart on the inside, directionless and sickly
zero effort to inspire disgust in the viewer
you can emulate this stuff as faithfully as possible and hide behind claiming that it's all in the eye of the beholder and never ever intentional
No.2379
Please do the Godess.
Pretty please? * ; ω ; *
No.2382
>>2379
This propaganda project and Pepe come first. I'll consider doing Ebola-chan afterward though. It would be pretty funny to have Ebola-chan statues everywhere.
Also got my slip-casting latex in the mail today so I'm casting up Pepes. Hoping to have a finished and painted version posted up here in a few days.
No.2401
>>2382
THANK YOU SCULPTOR-KUN
I LOVE YOU SCULPTOR-KUN
GOOD LUCK SCULPTOR-KUN
No.2414
>>2225
OP if you start producing pepe masks I'll buy one for sure(assuming its a reasonable price and not a shekelcaust). I'm sure you'll sell thousands of them to cuckchan and infinity users.
No.2430
>>2414
Rant incoming. Just saying how it is. Plz nobody get rustled jimmies.
<giant wall of text rant>
>implying I want to sell to cuckchan
>implying I want to further ruin Pepe
>implying I'm here for shekels
I'm not here to jew out on memes and get shekels. Yeah I could sell a lot of Pepe masks on cuckchan but I would not be at all cool with that. Nobody post this shit on cuckchan. I don't want those retards showing up at stupid SJW events wearing Pepe masks. That would fucking ruin it.
**hear me out before you accuse me of jewing**
I'll probably price Pepes around $70(seriously hear me out here) which is super cheap for custom halloween masks. Go look at all the facebook horror collector groups if you think I'm making it up. They usually start at around $100 and go up from there (except for half-masks which are usually like $60 and up). I've cast up the first one and in the process of seaming it right now. Just one mask took half a gallon of slip-casting latex which is not cheap. On top of that, once I slowly snip off the seams and any tiny micro-bubbles (this takes a few hours) I have to fill in the tiny canal (where the seams used to be) with something that is in the industry called cabopatch. Cabopatch is a mixture of cabosil (a thickening agent that is basically powdered glass and will give you lung cancer super quick if you don't wear a respirator) and prosthetic adhesive (expensive as fug). On top of that I have to paint it with a mixture called pax paint which is half acrylic paint and half prosthetic adhesive (once again expensive as fug). At that price point I'm barely making any profit at all. If I lower it much more I'll be selling at a loss and I'm unemployed right now so it'd be better for me to not sell them at all if anons think that's too much.
Granted, if you anons do think that's too much then that's fine. I just can't afford to sell much lower or I'm losing the tiny bit of money I have. Sculpture isn't like digital painting. The material cost is extremely expensive.
Seriously, look this stuff up if you think I'm jewing for shekels. If I was about shekels I never would've gone into the art field. I would've gone into banking school or med school or something.
I sculpt because it's just about the only thing in this damn world I give a single fuck about. It's one of those stupid illogical passion things.
Also sorry about the longwinded rant. I just drank like half a bottle of vodka. I'm ever so slightly drunk at the moment.
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Plz don't rustle ur jimmies anon. I just wanna make you cool stuff. ;_;
No.2455
>>2430
I'll definitely buy one
No.2462
>>2362
If you still want some degenerate art suggestions, how about mattress girl's mattress?
No.2463
>>2340
this is fucking awesome, I want to see it painted up
No.2464
Hi pleb craftsperson. You will never be a true artist.
No.2466
>>1919
Serious question, entrepeneur /pol/ack here.
What does a 2 meter pepe marble statue cost?
No.2467
>>2466
>>2430
>I'm not here to jew out on memes and get shekels. Yeah I could sell a lot of Pepe masks on cuckchan but I would not be at all cool with that.
<Also wall of rage text>
YOU CAN MAKE MEMES MANIFEST IN REALLIFE, ASK FOR SHEKKELS OP AND MASS PRODUCE THEM. YOUR WORK IS GLORIOUS, YOUR MONETARY REWARD IS RIGHTLY DESERVED!!!
BECOME ZILLIONAIRE AND CREATE AN ASSYMBLYLINE OF MEME STATUE PRODUCTION!!
do you even /biz/ OP?????
COME ON!!!
DO IT!!! Halloween is in 2/3 months, a finished pepe mask on sell will give you insta million dollar.
DONT BE STUPID!!
No.2468
>>2467
If you dont want to into business OP, I would glady purchase a license and mass produce them myself
No.2470
Seriously sculptor chan
Sell meme masks and sculptures
Profit
Tithe to 8chan and nationalists and use your money for making non degenerate art
Hell, given the current art climate I wouldn't be surprised if museums and galleries sold your meme busts - just present it as being a commentary in tradition in the modern world where the classic busts of cicero and the like are held up against pepe and wojak
And the masks alone would earn you bank with the internet crowd
I would absolutely help you out with the business stuff if you wanted to do it - I'm admin here so I'll just edit a throwaway email into your post if your interested
We could personally ensure the future of the free chans
No.2474
>>2470
"Memetic Art"
Memetic Art was a reactionary art style to the degenerate style of Jewish propagated modern art, which blossomed early-mid 20th century until the great cleansing (GC 1). <HAIL OUR EMPEROR> It was the art which inspired mankind and paved the way to our galactic ventures. Memetic art circulated around the principles of spreading light i.e. truths to mankind.
No.2485
>>2276
>>2225
Now, I have no training to speak of and just enjoy sculpting stuff, making molds and shit, slowly moving to more complex stuff. What kind of modeling clay do you use? Is it full, or is it built around something, like one of those hat mannequin heads?
No.2486
>>2430
Confirming this is true. The materials cost for this stuff is ridiculous.
No.2487
>>2470
OP again. Sorry I've been out of town for a few days. Yeah I'm kind of a complete moron when it comes to business ventures (I majored in art lel). I would be cool with selling a bunch of meme art, but yeah if I'm gonna sell a lot of meme maks/sculptures I'm definitely gonna need some help from more business savvy anons.
Update on Pepe: Started painting the first one and almost have the second one cast up. After I get about 5 of them finished I'm gonna figure out how to sell them. Etsy would be easiest for anons to buy from but I think that would get me doxxed. Another anon suggested a throwaway email and a paypal account but I can probably get doxxed from paypal too.
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Shoot me a message at VaferTelum@gmail.com
Send me a pic of the mask or of your work that you haven't posted in this thread so that I know it's you
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No.2488
>>2485
I did Pepe in water clay (specifically 105 white clay without grog). I usually use water clay for making masks because it's much faster to work with. The issue with water clay is that it'll dry on you and crack apart if you don't work fast enough and constantly spray it with water. Also when doing a mask you usually sculpt it on top of a headform like the link below.
http://www.monstermakers.com/product/deluxe-full-head-sculpting-armature-life-size.html
The reason it's sculpted on that is so you know that the mask will actually fit on a person's head when it's done. You also have to sculpt your masks a little over-sized because latex shrinks a certain amount when it dries.
Now for doing figures I usually like to use oil-based clays that won't dry out like water clay. The only time I would probably use water clay for a figure is if I'm doing a life-size figure (because that much oil clay would cost a fortune). I use different brands depending on the size of the figure. If it's like a 36" figure I usually prefer to use Chavant Le Beau Touche clay. It's soft enough to work pretty quick, but also hard enough to hold details well. I'm also a big fan of Monster Clay because it holds detail very well and can be melted down over and over without going bad nearly as quickly as other oil clays. It is slower to work with though because it is a much harder clay. Now if you're working very very small then you need more of a hard wax like they use in the toy industry. Something like Castilene. Also you need a dental waxer to work with that stuff because it's so ridiculously hard you have to have heated tools to move it around.
No.2489
>>2487
Well, you can go for bitcoins, but it's painful to turn back into cash you can spend. You can use them to buy from amazon though. ( https://purse.io/ )
No.2493
>>2488
So the issue water clay vs oil clay, beside hardness of the specific clay, is most of all a matter of price then, and skills at working it?
I just realized I should have used latex lacking a tixotropic resin to fill a mask mold, not a regular resin. Fuck my retarded brain.
Some extra questions that you might be able to answer: as I generally like resins for some on my projects, is there a way to sand epoxidic resin smooth and glossy, or will it always look like garbage and I'm better off sanding a plaster positive first with fine sanding paper and then make another mold? Is alginate a good alternative for a one time mold to save money compared to silicone?
Metals: I have a methane bunsen burner. Is this viable: pour wax into mold, demold, make a plaster mold around wax, slowly heat up until wax melts away and plaster dries for higher temperatures, melt silver or bronze on burner, pour in mold? Or will the mold inevitably crack and I should get some different materials? I don't have a kiln, so, stupid question incoming: can I use candlewax?
>>2362
The cult of equality pic had a statue that could be viable for this. Don't actually have it saved though.
No.2495
>>2487
You can reach me there
No.2505
No.2508
Meme Team 6 has made rendezvous, commence operation Masketta Man
No.2510
You have been visited by the Sculptor-chan of basedness.
Happiness and artistic skills will come to you but only if you post
GOOD LUCK SCULPTOR-CHAN
on this thread
No.2513
>>2510
GOOD LUCK BASED SCULPTOR-CHAN
No.2517
>>2493
I don't work much with any sort of epoxy resins (I much prefer urethane resins/plastics). However I imagine the thing to do is sand it down until you have it smooth to a 500 grit sandpaper smoothness (obviously depending on how rough the piece starts out you may have to work your way from lower grit to 500 grit). After 500 grit dry then wetsand it with either 500 or 600 grit. After wetsanding try buffing/polishing it with polishing wax. That's my best bet. I know that technique works great for dental acrylics and most things in general. You could also try spraying some primer on it, sanding it down to 500 grit and then spraying some automotive clearcoat on it for a high gloss finish. This is definitely something where you want to experiment with test samples of the material before you start mutilating your piece. If you're going to produce multiples and you don't want to do a shitload of sanding every time then yes it may be better to bodyshop the first one really good and take a new mold off that.
As far as alginate for temporary molds is concerned, yes it will work for certain materials. You have to do it before the shit dries out though (and some brands dry out fast). Just make sure that the material you're casting in isn't going to get fucked up by the moisture in the alginate. Some will and some wont. Once again, do a test sample first to be on the safe side. Also I don't recommend using it for anything too complicated. Wet alginate frequently tears very easy and will be a pain to work fast with if you're casting anything too complicated.
Now for metals, I've worked in a few art foundries but I only really know the basics for metals. I don't know the melting point for different metals but for most I'm pretty sure you need at least a small crucible or something. I could be wrong. You may want to talk to some Jewelry-smiths. They would have a better idea about that subject. Also I seriously doubt plaster is going to withstand the heat of molten metal. What they do in the foundries is lost-wax method with what's called a ceramic-shell. I recommend doing some googling or buy some books on foundry processes. Also candlewax may or may not work because candles are made out of a variety of different waxes (also most storebought candles are full of fillers and shit to make production of them cheaper). If you're trying to do lost-wax method then I suggest buying an actual casting-wax that's meant for it.
No.2519
>>2517
err. Crucible and smelting over/furnace.
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No.2521
>>2517
>ceramic-shell
Thanks for the answer! Maybe one day I will be fighting the good fight one sculpture at a time.
No.2523
Can you reproduce the classical form? I know many trained sculptors who think sculpting is simply copying reality. No one does, if indeed they even sculpt, the classical body type, the classical face, etc. No one does idealized forms, forms which are traditionally European. They copy. This is the same in painting, as in sculpture, and it is sad.
No.2525
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>>2362
If you are not already set on an idea, you could sculpt at thing related to Antigone. Antigone stands for the supremacy of spiritual and traditional power over the human and temporal. You could, for instance, do Haimon stabbing himself. You could do Antigone being released from her noose. You could have Antigone bury her brother. There are good symbols for our meaning. They might be missed by the average person.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigone
No.2526
>>2525
>a thing*
>relating*
No.2529
>>2523
I'm actually very fond of doing idealized forms rather than just copying. It's true that most people (especially painters) rely almost completely on copying nowadays (this is because classical training has almost become a lost art). A lot of them literally trace photographs which is a total joke. I'm actually very knowledgeable on human anatomy and the structure of the body. I don't need to copy.
All that being said, Michaelangelo's David is an overrated sack of shit. The hands and the head are completely out of proportion with the rest of the body and it's very jarring.
inb4 HURR DURR it was because it was gonna be on a rooftop and would've looked right from the ground!!1
That's the excuse the people always make for it. That may be true, however if it is then that is how it should be displayed. Otherwise it just looks fucking retarded if you have any knowledge of human proportions.
No.2537
>>2529
From below, the head is higher up, so if it were viewed it would look small. He made it bigger to compensate for the fact that they were higher up, and thus further away. They moved it because people cannot be trusted.
No.2552
>>2537
I already pointed that out if you read my post. The point is that it should be displayed up high if it was designed for that. Otherwise it looks ridiculous.
No.2556
>>2049
Anon why don't you make a bitcoin wallet and some of us might throw you a few micro-bitshekels for your funding.
If you post it on /pol/ you will get plenty more support.
No.2572
This is fantastic work OP. I'd like to donate BTC to this project. I know, BTC is hard to deal with but it's the best way to get support without getting doxxed.
Also as another anon said, I'd be very interested in purchasing a mold and churning out right wing symbolism around my city.
No.2590
>>2572
damn thats a great idea, seconded.
also, does anyone have skills making stencils?
I was thinking a lambda from GI, or a BlackCrimesMatter stencil. Glad I found this board.
No.2591
>>2590
I used to graffiti a lot with stencils, they're really easy to make. I recommend simple designs, the GI lambda would make an impact for sure.
Easy tutorial here http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Graffiti-Stencil
No.2607
>>2572
OP again. I'm still alive believe it or not. Had some stuff going on so I've been preoccupied. Pepe #3 came out with a few air bubbles in the eyelids. I should be able to fill those in with some cabopatch though. I had some issues with Pepe #1 because of the PAX paint. It's been several years since I've worked with latex so I'm having to relearn it all. I forgot how much I hate PAX paint. The problem is it's super sticky before you seal it with something (because prosthetic adhesive). Everything in the fucking world sticks to it. It's troublesome and expensive. I'm switching to rubber-cement paint because of that. The painting process is much more toxic but should be a lot less trouble (and less expensive). Also working out some new ways for seaming so things should go quicker now hopefully. My art buddy agreed to put the masks up on his etsy, so I should have the first few up soon.
I havn't gotten too far on the propaganda piece yet. I have the armature and cut the wood for the base now. Just gotta clear out some space in my work room and start throwing clay on it. I'm sorry this shit takes me so long anons, but I'm doing it all in my free time. I do have other things going on unfortunately.
inb4 CLEAN UR ROOM ANON
No.2608
>>2607
Oh shit. I forgot to say, I love the idea of making multiple molds and sending them out to other anons with casting instructions. That way the propaganda can multiply faster. Instead of one weirdo casting the sculptures in his free time we could have several people reproducing it much faster. I'm totally down with reproducing molds and selling them (enough to cover material costs anyway). Reminder IDGAF about shekels. I'm here to push the memes.
We control the memes, we control the world!
No.2610
>>2608
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Looks great. Let us know when the dank pepes are up, I'll definitely be buying one. Getting a dank rare pepe and providing funding for the meme war, what's not to like?
pls ship to australia?
No.2611
>>2610
It's gonna cost slightly more (for obvious reasons), but I'll ship to anywhere in the world. US is cheapest for me but I will ship to anyone anywhere.
No.2618
>>2430
Okay Anon you dont have to mass produce them. Maybe sell a few dank pepe masks to a few Anons on here(BMW), and they will be super rare pepes.
I promise I would treasure my pepe mask and only wear it on special occasions like Halloween, so most likely once a year.
Even if you do mass produce them, they would only cause more pepe magics to manifest which would be lulzy as fuck.
Would you consider making a gorilla mask? As in the rustled jimmies gorilla?
I'd seriously like to purchase a pepe mask in time for Halloween. I'd rock that shit in the next campus holloween party while standing alone in the corner while the fucking normies are chimping out and acting like degenerates in heat.
No.2625
OP for the zillionth time. Almost got yet another pepe out of the mold (should be out today). After I get this one out I'm going to focus on getting them all seamed and painted before I cast more.
Also I cleaned out my work room and started blocking out the male figure for the propaganda piece. I want to get it a little farther along before I post pics of it. It's really rough right now.
Also I realized that if the propaganda piece turns out good it may be possible to do it lifesize if we set up a kickstarter or something. For like $3-6k depending on the figure you can get a sculpture digitally scanned and enlarged by a CNC machine. I could then do the final finish on the large one and take a mold off that. The only issue then would be finding a home for it after it's finished. It may not be feasible to do this, but I'm just throwing the idea out there to see what you anons think.
No.2626
>>2625
I don't want to bother you if it's for practical reasons but I would really love to se the work in progress while it's being made, mostly because I think I could learn something.
Of course if you just don't want to bother taking pics it's fine.
No.2627
>>2626
How about this anon? I'll go ahead and take pics of it every step of the way and post them together later so you can see a step by step. I'm a bit paranoid about posting super early pics before it's farther along because it always looks like shit at first and people tend to make snap judgements based on an unfinished product. So once I have it a little more refined I'll post it all together. Also if you have any questions about the process feel free to ask. I'll try to answer all questions as best as I can.
No.2628
>>2627
Ok thanks, that works for me. I don't even talk about what I'm trying to do before I do it so I sort of get it.
No.2629
Also if anyone has any ideas for a custom paintjob (if u want a SUPER RARE pepe mask) post them here and I'll try to make it happen.
No.2633
>>2625
>it may be possible to do it lifesize if we set up a kickstarter or something.
Top kek I'm sure /pol/ would throw a few shekels for you. I would.
Good luck Sculptor-kun!
No.2634
OP again. Sorry for double-posting. Just wanted to also say if anyone would rather have a pepe display piece instead of a wearable mask let me know. All I have to do is fill it with some polyfoam and you can have a Pepe display piece to put in your house.
No.2643
>>2629
Bane pepe
but you'd need a new mold
No.2644
Can you bend your neck while wearing the mask?
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No.2648
>>2643
>>2644
OP. That's the thing, I can do another paintjob pretty easily. Anything like bane Pepe requires a whole new sculpt/mold. If Pepes start selling well then that's fine and I'll sculpt many different pepes. For now I'm just sticking with the smug sculpt but will do custom paintjobs if anyone wants one. Also yes you can turn your neck while wearing a mask. The mask probably won't turn with your neck though unless it's super tight.
No.2649
OP, what about this sculpture idea, just imagine:
An Illuminati pyramid with a human god standing next to it swinging an epic hammer to knock off the top piece of the pyramid (the eye).
The message this sculpture sends will be understood through all languages and cultures.
A timeless piece if you ask me.
Go do it! :-D
No.2659
>>2256
>>2269
For Moon Man you'll want a more solid mask. I was thinking, instead of sculpting, come up with two designs for Moon Man. A mask (like Guy Fawkes) and a full headpiece. Put the designs into 3d models and translate them into STL files. These files could then be 3d printed, depending on depth and features, with little support material. ABS plastic is naturally an opaque white, and can be smoothed with acetone. it costs <$30 per kilogram if you buy it, and less if you make it. A face mask wouldn't be hard at all to print, but for a full headpiece you might need to break it down into several pieces to fit with a printer.
Sculptor-chan could make the model by making a master, then scanning it with a 3d scanner.
I'd be willing to print them, and smooth them out, material wouldn't cost too much, but print time would drive up the cost significantly.
I wouldn't suggest it for Pepe, since it has a neck, while Moon Man shouldn't.
What could also be done, is any statuettes you want can be sculpted by sculptor-chan, scanned, and then printed. If you want a statuette in bronze or something, you can use a PLA statuette to make a lost casting mold.
Just spitballing ideas here guys. I wanted to help out with /ironman/ originally but the board died.
No.2664
>>2659
OP here. I don't own a digital 3d scanner. Also I could just cast a moonman mask in urethane plastic. It's not very hard. However, Mcdonalds would probably rape me legally since they own the copyright to the character. I'd be willing to get a scanner though if they didn't cost too much and just send the 3d models to other anons with 3d printers, but I imagine something like that is pretty expensive. Any anons know a lot about 3d scanners?
No.2665
>>2659
OP here. I don't own a digital 3d scanner. Also I could just cast a moonman mask in urethane plastic. It's not very hard. However, Mcdonalds would probably rape me legally since they own the copyright to the character. I'd be willing to get a scanner though if they didn't cost too much and just send the 3d models to other anons with 3d printers, but I imagine something like that is pretty expensive. Any anons know a lot about 3d scanners?
No.2678
>>2659
This is a cool idea
No.2691
>>2665
I can offer you this much advice, don't go cheap on selling your product. You can make massive shekels off your work. Why not further ruin the garbage leddit puts out and sell them their own shit? Make masks or small statuettes of whatever le ebin maymay is popular there at the moment and use it to fund the projects you actually want to accomplish.
No.2693
No.2695
>>2665
I've looked at some cheap diy 3d scanners, and I'm not sure if you could get anything bigger than a face mask in one pass. that would mean cutting the mask into pieces and scanning each, which is probably more trouble than its worth, now that I'm looking at it. The statuettes would still be an option.
Anyone interested in making a 3d scanner, there's several different diy models, here's a really cheap one: http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-30-laser/
If any of you want to put the time into making a scanner, and then commissioning a statuette from sculptor-chan to scan for 3d printing, I'm willing to print out the printed parts for free, I just need you to pay for shipping.
Another means of making a Moon Man mask is to make a 3d model of it right in the computer. I know that classical sculpting is your thing sculptor-chan, but if anyone knows anyone who is good at 3d modeling, it could be a separate means of getting Moon Man on the scene.
No.2833
>>2664
I doubt McDonalds would care if you aren't selling the masks to anyone but faggots on 8chan.
Either that, or what they don't know won't hurt them.
Pls, OP, pls. I need a Moonman mask for my special hunting trips.
No.2834
OP here. Still alive. Just about ready to paint up the Pepes I have cast so far. Also got that monster head I posted earlier in the thread molded now. Progress is slowly continuing on the propaganda piece as well. Also working on some other stuff (some beer taps for a local brewery etc.) so I'm juggling a lot of projects. Pepes should be soon. I really want to get the first batch finished by the end of the week if possible.
No.2857
>>2834
noice OP
this board seems like it's on life support but we regulars check in every day or so to see what's up
No.2861
>>2857
It's been more active lately than ever before, it's definitely growing - albeit slowly
No.2866
>>2833
So, I'm not OP and I could probably do one myself, I suck at sculpting but I can try to make a mold. I need an original though.
No.2927
>>2866
OP here. Go for it bro. I'm down for competition.
No.2928
>>2866
You're not professionaly trained. What do you have to show for your work? Paper mache?
Fuck off, douche.
OP is based, and has updated us with progress pictures.
We don't need some stupid cuckchanner to derail the thread.
No.2930
>>2866
>I need an original though.
Here, let me tie your shoes for you.
No.2937
>>2928
>>2930
Chill out
>>2866 offered to help, that is all he did. Why would you want to discourage him?
OP has shown himself to be an excellent sculptor and a hard worker, but we always need more
Go for it >>2866
No.2958
>>2928
>>2930
>I'm willing to spend money on a silicone mold and buying a template if I knew where to get one
>Fuck off, douche
Ok, I'll find a way to survive without doing stuff for free for you gigantic faggots.
No.2962
>>2958
Both of those posts that were cunty are from the same guy
He's a faggot
No.2966
>be OP
>don't check thread for a few days
>come back
>anons start fighting over nothing
>MFW
No.2967
>>2966
BO here
It's one guy, most certainly a shill. He has posted nothing other than this insult which is seemingly designed to drive away those that would help our efforts
No.2976
So I had an idea about how to possibly dodge getting raped by mcdonalds for moonman masks. I could sell a different item on the etsy (something cheap) and mark the price up to the mask price and say that it comes with a free gift. Nobody would buy the item (because way overpriced) except for anons that know they're getting a moonman mask shipped with it. Thoughts?
No.2994
>>2992
This is actually beyond my highest expectations
No.3001
>>2992
Damn, Op. You're skilled.
No.3010
No.3012
>>2992
the rarest of pepe's
No.3013
No.3029
cool, do the "I CAN HAZ CHEEZBURGER?" cat next ;)
No.3031
>>3029
I believe you are misunderstanding the general idea of this board.
No.3117
>>2529
>be me
>born into medici family
>get to be around 20
>dad dies
>mom already dead
>I am oldest
>I get the trade
>wtfhaveIgotteninto.jpg
>begin to make daddy's old buisness actually work well
>banking is kinda like an art
>begin to realize that I can beat kikes at their own game
>build bank branches everwhere
>even the papacy owes me cash
>run the fucking government
>finally get to build that fucking church that went without a dome for 50 years
>make florence florish
>people hate me even though I improved their lives
>get run out of city
>mfw my favorite artist makes a statue in honor of me being run out of the city
>"david"
>I aint fat enough to be goliath, what the hell
>mfw they can't even put the statue on their fucking building without me
No.3156
Not completely happy with the seaming job on this one, but here is the first finished one. I currently only have the listing set to ship to the US. If any of you non US anons want it then tell me what country to ship to and I'll calculate the shipping costs and add that option. Shipping overseas can get expensive as fuck depending on where you're shipping to.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/246197709/smug-meme-frog-halloween-mask?ref=shop_home_active_1
No.3157
Also still slowly making progress on the propaganda piece here and there. It's still pretty rough obviously and may change drastically before it's finished. Still brainstorming on what exactly to do with the figure he's gonna be punching out.
Criticism/ideas are welcome of course.
No.3162
>>3156
Dank
you should rename it RARE meme frog
No.3163
No.3164
No.3173
>>3157
OH YEA NIGGA, IT IS GETTING STARTED!
KEEP ON MEMEING BRUTHA!
No.3203
No.3230
>>3156
Actually did it, the absolute madman
No.3239
>>3157
You've said a few times that you're still not sure what to do about the figure he's punching out, have you entertained the notion of a composite figure? Other anons >>2373 have identified some detestable things about modern art, and offered suggestions. I've attached a few pieces that lack the dignity of classical sculpture.
Perhaps, the opposed figure could be composed of heterogenous materials (lego, paper mache, rebar, etc) and the homogenous figure (our hero) could be striking the opposed figure at its joints, where one material meets another, fracturing it and severing it.
The opposed figure could have, say, a severed lego forearm, lying on the ground, and the homogenous figure could be punching the opposed figure at the shoulder, where acrylic and packing tape meet, and dislocating/severing it.
And if you decide to roll with this idea, please make his abdomen a reference to Duchamp's fountain. I've always detested that charade.
No.3273
>>3239
I appreciate the ideas anon. More anons need to be throwing ideas out there like you are. Mind you, I wouldn't consider the pieces you posted necessarily degenerate. Just because a piece of art isn't a classical academic figure doesn't mean it's inherently degenerate. Lego guy is actually kinda neat IMO.
The problem is, modern/postmodern art gave people an excuse to make absolute degeneracy as kind of a cynical cashgrab (and also just because TPTB are actively trying to promote degeneracy through the arts). Duchamp's readymades were in large done as a joke and a mockery of what art had become in a lot of ways. I don't think even Duchamp expected them to be taken seriously, but the art establishment (jews) took it and ran with it. Art was already going down hill but after his stupid urinal things really went downhill.
Now we literally have people squirting paint out of their assholes onto a canvas and giving large gobbeldygook explanations on why it's deep and meaningful.
Even abstract art isn't necessarily degenerate in and of itself. There are actually many examples of beautiful abstract art. However, it became an excuse to promote degenerate and ugly art.
I've been doing some rough sketches trying to come up with ideas for the second figure. I think I want the torso to be a reference to Judy Chicago's "Dinner Party" (feminist vagina art). One leg I want to be a reference to Mondrian paintings. The other leg I want to be a reference to Giacometti's shitty sculptures but have Duchamp's urinal as the foot. The head I want to be one of the African masks from Picasso's shitty "Les Demoiselles d'Avignon". So then I need two more degenerates to reference for the arms.
I know a lot of anons will disagree with me, but not all art should necessarily be classical academic figures. Granted, that should in my opinion be the standard by which art is judged and should be what is taught in the academies.
Also, is that second picture a Will Kurtz piece? I know that guy personally and I fucking hate his work.
No.3298
>>3273
What do you have against Kurtz?
No.3300
>>3298
Most of his work exemplifies ugliness and he himself is a pretty degenerate person. There are some personal reasons too which I won't go into.
No.3301
>>3300
And of course 8ch didn't post my pics for some reason.
No.3308
>go to check view stats on pepe mask
>several views from something called f-list.net
>wuts dat?
>google it
>furry roleplaying community
Uh oh. I think this pepe mask idea may have backfired. TFW some autistic degenerate yiffs himself to orgasm in my pepe mask. MFW
No.3313
>>3157
I thought he was firing an arrow from a bow.
The curved thing looks like a bow, and the straight thing looks like an arrow.
No.3314
>>3313
That's just armature wire sticking out anon. When I get to the point of doing the hands I'm going to clip that excess wire off.
No.3317
Hello. I'd like to buy a pepe mask but I'm Canadian. The etsy page says it only ships to the United States from Tennessee the home of hickok45, you lucky bastard is there any chance that shipping to Canada will be possible in the future?
Also, your work is amazing, based sculptor-anon.
No.3322
>>3317
Just send me your shipping info (address, province, etc) through the etsy page and I'll calculate the shipping cost and add that shipping option. obviously don't post it here or you're likely to get a lot of pizzas and korans shipped to your house.
Also Tennessee is nice but I live in Memphis (population is 63% dindus). Not my first choice but I'm kind of stuck here at the moment.
No.3336
>>3157
You know you will go down in art history because of this?
The winners write history, and you have planted yourself in the middle of the winning group.
No.3339
>>3336
That's awfully optimistic of you anon. It would be pretty funny to me if that happened though. We have no guarantee that we are going to win in the long run, but I sure hope we do.
Also I need some opinions here if any of you anons would oblige me. I have enough clay to do this propaganda piece, but I don't have enough money to get the moldmaking/casting materials because I have literally no income right now. I've been trying to find work but it's a shit job market and there's not much work for my skill set around here. I was hoping I could sell some pepes to help cover the materials for this project but that doesn't seem to be working out so far. Also of course pepe has finally made it to hottopic so now it's completely lost its value as a meme pretty much. Do you anons think a kickstarter would be a better solution for funding this? I'm not sure enough people would be interested in the project for a kickstarter to be viable. If anyone has any ideas let me know. I may have to just give up here eventually and go work at a mcdonalds.
No.3340
>>3339
Alternately, I could finish the sculpture, seal the clay with some clearcoat and then just paint the clay. We wouldn't have a physical piece that could be spread around but we could at least have something that looks nice and photograph the shit out of it and we could spread the photos. It would be nicer to be able to make copies that could be spread around banksy style though.
No.3341
>>3308
I'd be both proud and disgusted, furries go to pretty autistic lengths to get perfect quality shit.
>>3340
If we wanted to go Meme Team 6, you could make a mold of a scale version of the sculpture and recast it with cheapish resin and sell them, people could be tasked with spreading the miniature sculpture around, perhaps with a QR code to a page about the sculpture and the message we are trying to send.
No.3342
>>3339
>If anyone has any ideas let me know. I may have to just give up here eventually and go work at a mcdonalds.
Yes.
Some pro-white anon should start a place that sell the stuff you make.
If you only make expensive stuff, the webshop could make stickers and tshirts, like museums do today.
I don't think we should beg, so it's better to sell stickers for 10$, as way for people to show support.
No.3343
>>3340
>Alternately, I could finish the sculpture, seal the clay with some clearcoat and then just paint the clay.
Batch work.
You need 5-8 finished sculptures, all a little bit different, so people can argue which they like best.
Sell documentation along the way, and give us pictures, so those with no money can add value to the project by spreading the news of the classical sculptor that will go down in art history.
If the cucks can have the reaction to a piece by society, be the main part of the art-work, it can be a part of good art as well.
We can help with that.
No.3344
>>3343
Also, don't put the actual sculpture out in public some dank memester would destroy it in the name of his girlfriend who fucks niggers with his consent.
No.3350
>>3344
>Also, don't put the actual sculpture out in public some dank memester would destroy it in the name of his girlfriend who fucks niggers with his consent.
You do this to one or two of the batch, since you can't have legendary artworks without legends?
It's not that important what is done actually, as long as something is done, as you can make the choice seem rational end genius in hindsight, even it was a throw of the dice in reality.
No.3353
Just posting to say I like the statue so far and I think a kickstarter is a good idea. Maybe even set up the kickstarter so it seems like you are a leftist and try to scam some shekels out of the SJWs too while you're at it.
Also, since the admin lurks this thread, I'll bump it with a banner I made for the board.
No.3354
>>3350
Perhaps an ARG could be made, with the final reward being a statue.
No.3360
>>3353
>. Maybe even set up the kickstarter so it seems like you are a leftist and try to scam some shekels out of the SJWs too while you're at it.
You mean like ask politely if some small company want to contribute, since money for the poor artists making legendary work, would be a nice gesture if they might have done something anti-whitish, they now regret doing?
No.3361
>>3354
>Perhaps an ARG could be made, with the final reward being a statue.
Sounds great, but I don't know what an ARG is.
You need small statues as well, so people can buy the whole batch, even the ones that so tragically got destroyed.
You also need to think about relocating to somewhere it is fitting for a legendary artist to have his workshop, since you'll need space for students and mistresses and all that shit, and later it will become some form of museum.
Some of us need to become legendary in the fight against the cucks, so it might as well be you?
No.3362
OP again. I'm starting to think I'm going about this the wrong way. It's going to be too slow and expensive to spread this stuff mainly through traditional means. Most anons probably don't have the money to buy castings (you NEET motherfuckers) and I can't give out castings for free because they're expensive as fuck to make and I'm poor as shit. I'm not going to be able to do this anytime soon (because no monies) but I think at some point I'm going to invest in a 3d laser scanner. That way I can do a statue, scan it in and make it a 3d file and just let anons download the file. Even if none of you anons have/can afford a 3d printer, most cities have places that will 3d print a file for you for a fee (much cheaper than actually buying a 3d printer I'm sure). I won't be able to buy a scanner until I either sell some stuff or become employeed though so that's not an option currently. Maybe by the time I have the piece finished I'll be able to afford a scanner (probably not though because it's hard as fuck to find a job right now).
No.3363
>>3361
I'm actually considering relocating to Pittsburgh as it's affordable to live there and has a good art community (i.e. jobs for my skillset). I also have a lot of art connections around Pittsburgh.
I did live in NYC for 2.5 years and worked for some really big name artists there, but it's so expensive to live there you can only really ever break even at best. Also, unless you suck a lot of jewish dick (literally) you're never going to get your work seen in NYC. The jews got that art scene on lockdown. The best you can hope for there without becoming a glorified prostitute is working for some famous jewish artist making their work for them and getting paid a wage you can barely survive on. Feelsbadman.jpg
No.3366
>>3361
Think Cicada 3301, a treasure hunt through both the internet, and reality.
No.3372
>>3362
>Most anons probably don't have the money to buy castings (you NEET motherfuckers) and I can't give out castings for free because they're expensive as fuck to make and I'm poor as shit.
Are you telling me gypsum casted in rubber forms are expensive?
Paintings are for rich people, so many artists do prints for the masses. It's the same for statues, but you don't have the tradition to sell cheap versions of your work, as far I have seen. A 6-8 inch gypsum statue from a rubber cast, can be made for a few dollars, and sold for say 30-50 $.
Why do it yourself, there are million burgers that cast everything from dildos to concrete sinks and counter tops, that are desperate for work that will sell.
License your statue to these people, as they already have websites and visa cards, so we anons can buy them as yule-gifts for friends.
Perhaps Ben Garrison will sell them for you?
No.3374
>>3363
>The best you can hope for there without becoming a glorified prostitute is working for some famous jewish artist making their work for them and getting paid a wage you can barely survive on. Feelsbadman.jpg
Can't become a legendary artist if you have not suffered for your art, so I'm glad that is done.
This means we are free to concentrate on you living the good life and wasting money, once we have secured you a steady income, as legendary artists need to do that as well.
No.3379
>>3372
>moldmaking rubber
>a few dollars
Yeah no. Try $110 for a single gallon plus $15-$20 for shipping since you can't buy it locally. You're also not taking the polyester resin ($40 per gallon here) and fiberglass mat ($7-$12 per package) you need for the mother mold into account. Also it's almost impossible to find gypsums where I live. If you want gypsum you have to get it shipped in which costs you more on shipping than the gypsum itself costs because it weighs a ton. So it's more economical to go with urethane plastics for casting which is $85 for a gallon kit plus another $15-$20 shipping fee.
>Paintings are for rich people
Wrong again anon. Paintings are extremely cheap to produce compared to sculpture. Pretty much anyone can afford to buy original paintings depending on the artist they're buying from. There are plenty of great painters selling original work on the cheap.
Don't you anons tell me you know how much this stuff costs better than I do. I've been doing this shit for years and years. It's far more expensive than you think. If you think I'm making shit up to jew for shekels then I can link you to the materials for sale and add up all the material/shipping costs so you anons can see just how much it costs to produce this stuff.
>Why do it yourself, there are million burgers that cast everything from dildos to concrete sinks and counter tops, that are desperate for work that will sell.
Yes, and they have to make a profit just like I do if they want to survive. So I would have to pay more to have someone else do it than just doing it myself. Also even if it was cheaper (and it isn't at all) hiring other people to cast your work almost always backfires (trust me I've done it before) because they inevitably screw it up because it's not their sculpture so they don't give a fuck.
Sorry anon, but I think you some unrealistic expectations of how cheap/simple it is to produce traditional sculpture. That's why I'm saying I think 3d scanning/printing is the only viable option to spread this stuff affordably.
No.3381
>>3379
have some*
Should've proofread that more…
No.3382
>>3157
If I can add a small bit of criticism to this, the hero's upper body isn't twisted enough; his punch look like it has absolutely no weight to it right now.
Also, were you going to have him punching up or punching down? The former would be way more accepted by the general populace as they latch on more tightly to the idea of 'fighting the power' (ie; punching up) than 'opressing the weak' (punching down)
also, something feels really off about the guy's neck. I think you might have overextended it.
Aside from all the above it's looking really good though. Keep fighting the god fight, Sculptor-kun, this artfag here gives you his full support.
No.3383
>>3382
It's very early anon. I'm still just blocking it out. Thanks for the crit tho, I'll make sure to take that all into consideration.
No.3384
>>3383
nps m8. The more constructive crit you get in the early stages before you need to worry about refining it, the better.
No.3395
>>3379
>Yeah no. Try $110 for a single gallon plus $15-$20 for shipping since you can't buy it locall
4.5 liter = 45 small statues . if the density is to, that comes out at 200 grams per statue. if total cost is 180$, that is 4 dollars pro piece.
I'm no artist, and I never suggested you do this yourself.
People make a living casting dildos that sell for 20$, so why can't they cast statues for you, for a split in the profits?
Only thing you would need to do, is find somebody you trust, and give him the small statue. He then does the rest, making the mold, casting, shipping and payments.
Casting dildos is a craft, and selling shit has never been something artists are good at. I'm sure you can learn it, but it takes a year.
If you google somebody that cast small shit for a living in your area, I'm 100% certain you'll find somebody that will make and sell them, and then BMW can do the marketing.
No.3396
>>3395
>u can maek 45 statue molds with a single gallon of silicone!1!
Are you retarded anon? Do you expect me to pull a Jesus loaves and fishes miracle? You could maybe get 3 small statues molded with a gallon of moldmaking silicone.
>I'm no artist
It shows.
No.3397
>>3395
Also since dildos are a flexible material themselves, you don't have to use casting rubber to make the molds. You can just use a rigid plaster or resin mold. That's why they're much cheaper to cast.
If your finished product is going to be out of a rigid material then you need to use mold rubber. If the finished product is out of a flexible material then you don't need to use mold rubber.
Also why the fuck would I hire somebody else to mold my shit when I myself am a professional moldmaker?
No.3399
>>3354
That could be super cool
No.3401
Making progress slowly but surely.
No.3402
>>3401
The neck still looks a bit long, but that shit looks like it's gonna be legendary.
No.3403
>>2992
looks like a teenage mutant ninja turtle
No.3404
>>3401
I posted a thread on /pol/ to get some more coverage.
>>>/pol/3252497
No.3405
>>3401
Looks like it's going to be awesome anon.
No.3406
please anon promise me youll do what >>3239 said about duchamps abomination
It will be a shocking attack to modern "artists" because youre attacking its grandaddy
No.3407
>>3157
I believe it looks a bit forceless because he's not punching from the hip. His hip would twist leftwards into the punch followed by his right foot which also would be pointing inwards.
No.3408
>>3402
I double-checked about the neck length after you mentioned it before. The vertical proportions are correct. It's probably an issue with the width. If the width of a limb or whatever isn't right then it will make it appear too long. It also may be an issue with my shitty cellphone camera fisheyeing the photo making the top look a little bigger than it is. When I get it farther along I'll photograph it with my good camera and lighting setup.
>>3407
I had a conversation with the BO about the pose earlier actually. I'm basing the stance more on a martial-arts punch. However, usually in a martial-arts punch you would punch with the same side you're stepping with. The reason I made him punch with the alternate side is because it appears more dynamic from a sculptural standpoint. If you want something to look dynamic it's good to have the ribcage and the pelvis twisting away from each other to some degree. You wouldn't do it in an actual fight, but it works better in a sculpture IMO. Also he's in a front stance. If he pointed his right foot (the back one) inward instead of outward he would lose balance and fall.
No.3409
>>3403
I've been basing the build of the figure somewhat on these >>2362 bulked up aryan figures sculpted by Hitler's favorite sculptor. It's going to be much more refined/detailed when it's done but it is a pretty over-the-top physique. I can tone it down some if you anons think it's going too far in the bodybuilder direction.
No.3410
>>3408
For artistic photography, when it is done, you could perhaps have a shot with a light just behind the man's head, or rising behind him, painted as a messiah or the dawn of a new era.
No.3411
>>2992
Will gladly pay for this lil Pepe if you ship outside the US also.
No.3412
>>3401
you should do these as conceptual art as a critic to post-modernism.
No.3413
>>3411
Just tell me where and I'll calculate shipping costs and add the option to the shop page. I need country and province/state at least to be able to calculate shipping. Might be better to tell me through the etsy instead of posting it on a chan though. Up to you.
No.3415
>>3413
>>3413
Im taking care of some papers though. But I definitely will consider this.
And good luck on your statue. A certain German hero would have been very proud.
No.3416
>>3413
And I live in Germany btw,
No.3417
>>3416
I added the option to ship to Germany, but the shipping cost is pretty rough. Pic related.
No.3421
>>2430
would you consider custom color schemes?
No.3422
>>3421
Sure I can do a custom paintjob. Just tell me what you want or post a pic of it. I've got 2 more castings of the mask that I havn't painted yet just sitting there.
No.3423
>>2833
>>2665
>>2695
Moonman pls, I know anything I make out of papermache for Halloween is gonna suck ass. You have one guaranteed sale on your hands, depending on delivery time I suppose.
No.3424
Looking good, man. You're doing great work with it.
No.3425
You should back attacking the art world directly.
I suggest a different sculpture entirely.
Your work should be a critique of the concept of subjectivity.
A man standing defiantly open armed with broken shackles.
The powers that be want us bound by meaningless language that tells us anything is true and everything is valid when this isn't the case at all.
There is an objective truth. There is a golden standard.
You should read the abolition of man.
You're doing god's work with these sculptures. I wish you well.
No.3426
>>3423
I would love to anon but I'm scared of all the McRape.
You can get away with selling some copyrighted things on a small scale but there are a few corporations you DO NOT FUCK WITH. You don't ever fuck with Disney and you don't ever fuck with Nintendo. I imagine McDonalds being the disney of fast food would be the same way.
No.3427
>>3273
if you need more degenerate things why not a hygienic pad to represent all the "art" revolting around menstrual blood?
No.3428
No.3429
I fixed some of your proportion errors.
No.3430
>>3429
What proportional scale are you using? 7.5 head or 8 head?
Also the head is a little larger in my photo than the actual sculpture is because my shitty cell phone camera fisheyed it some.
Some of these are good changes. I do worry that increasing the leg volume too much will make him look like a short manlet though. I'll take this all into consideration though. Thanks anon.
No.3431
>>3426
I honestly wouldn't worry too much about it, as long as you sell it as a "Mac Tonight mask" or anything else that keeps it away from Moonman our racist vigilante. Until you start selling on the scale of the V for Vendetta masks the most Mcd will do is send you a cease and desist (which you should obviously heed).
No.3432
>>3430
I'm not using any specific system, but I think 8 heads or slightly more is better and more heroic than 7.5.
No.3433
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earlobe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digit_ratio
Two things you may wish to research, attached vs detached earlobes and digit ratio. It seems low digit ratio is generally beneficial to men while high is generally beneficial to women.
No.3434
>>3432
I usually do 7.5 heads but I made the armature for this one to 8 head scale for that reason. More idealized.
I looked at the head/neck again and measured it. It seems to match up with the rest of it according to the measurements, but since you're not the first person that said that I'll try shortening the neck and shaving a bit off the head and see how it looks.
The arms definitely need more volume I think. The measurements are correct length-wise but it's probably looking elongated because the volume isn't enough yet.
I do disagree about the thigh volume and the placement of the glutes on your edit. I think increasing the thigh volume much more is gonna make him look a lot shorter. Also where you have the glutes makes it seem like he must have an unnaturally tiny pelvis.
Seriously though, I do appreciate your take on it. I do have a tendency to make figures a bit slender which I'm having to fight on this project. I'll mess around with the volume some more and post a pic and you guys can all give me some more feedback.
No.3435
>>1931
Why no slit. Male genitalia is accurate, why is the female genitalia censored by the artist?
No.3436
>>3435
Because the ideal female genitalia is discrete unless aroused.
No.3437
>Because the ideal female genitalia is discrete unless aroused.
Is the ideal female a little girl?
No.3438
Why do sculptors like to sculpt men and not young girls?
No.3439
>>3342
I like this idea, your payment processor would cut you off as soon as some tumblrette caught wind of your "pro-white" art. You'd need to take BTC, and I know that would discourage some.
No.3440
>>3438
I sculpt mostly females anon. The male figure makes more sense for this project though given the subject matter.
No.3441
>>2607
You're not that big of a fish but just to be clear, if your afrd of doxing your doing it wrong.
No.3442
>>3441
>diet hansens
>local
nope
>your work
super shit unfinished drawing done drunkenly that I threw in the trash because it's hard to draw after ingesting the alcoholic jew (inb4 degenerate).
No.3445
>>3440
>I sculpt mostly females anon. The male figure makes more sense for this project though given the subject matter.
Could you somehow influence the white world to allow white men to marry young girls, like they could before feminism?
No.3446
>>3445
That sounds an awful lot like you want me to sculpt you lolis anon…
No.3448
where were you when cultural reconquista began?
WE MEME WAR NOW
No.3450
>>3446
>That sounds an awful lot like you want me to sculpt you lolis anon…
I want a world where you don't have to…
No.3454
>>3435
Vaginas generally censor themselves unless the holder is aroused.
No.3463
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I've been messing around with the pose some and I added more twist between the torso/ribcage and changed the punch to more of a hook punch to try and sell the movement a bit more. The legs don't really match up with my changes though and it's a pain to move them around a lot on such a large sculpture. So, I'm going to make a little rough maquette and fuck around with the pose until I get something that works better and then I'll alter the actual sculpture based on that. I'm sure anons will still complain that it's too static, but don't forget that the second figure's reaction to the punch is also going to help sell the movement.
I'm going to try to have something figured out by the end of the weekend. Although it is possible I get into the moonshine and waste my time recording shitty drunken lets plays all weekend like a filthy degenerate. I'll try to curb my substance abusing ways though for the sake of teh artz.
No.3469
>>3446
The world will never have enough lolis.
No.3470
>>3442
>super shit
never change anon
never change
No.3471
>>3469
I'm drunk anon. Stop making me feel these feels.
No.3477
>>3463
Another thing to sell the point is that if you are gonna make a cartoon-type piece of SJW shit, make it have realistic, gory injuries, see the skin ripping apart and tendons snapping.
No.3498
I'm monitoring this thead
No.3507
>>3477
I like that idea, but I'm gonna tell you from experience that if you put any kind of blood/guts in a sculpture it is not going to be respected in any capacity. It'll be seen as very low brow which I don't think is how we want to portray ourselves. We have to communicate our message while still keeping it somewhat classy IMO.
No.3513
How long until Ebola–chan sculpture? ;_;
No.3523
Sorry guys. I'm still alive. I've just been super busy the past week. I'm still working on the project here and there. It's gonna be a while before it's done. BO might not wanna keep the thread stickied because I have another project I'm gonna be busting my ass on for a few weeks so there won't be many updates for a while. If thread dies I'll just make a new one when I have an update for everyone.
>>3513
It's gonna happen…eventually…
No.3571
>>3513
>>3523
hey just wanted to share this with yall
GOOD LUCK SCULPTOR-KUN!
https://8ch.net/ebola/res/27351.html
No.3572
>>3523
gg, you magnificent bastard.
No.5706
I wonder what he is up to now.