/bmw/ - The Bureau of Memetic Warfare

I don't blame the mods at all. /pol/ has been getting furiously attacked by the shills and your post was taken out because the signal-to-noise ratio on Trump realism has been absolutely obliterated by the Applied Memetics faggots

This will continue to escalate all the way until (and likely past) the election, so it's up to you to make good enough posts that you're clearly differentiated from the shills so you don't get lumped in with all the other anti-Trump spam.

Trump is a populist and nationalist. If you read between the lines and listen to the dog whistles, he's pro-white, but must hide it. As far as blacks, gays, etc are concerned, whatever helps the nation is a tool that should be utilized.

Trump has donated to the Clintons, and had Hillary at his wedding. There is obviously going to be an element of distrust since he has played establishment games over the years. His extensive use of jewish staff is another element of concern. Regardless, you should never trust anyone 100% because then you would be submitting to the will of another and you would lose your agency, so of course you'll always reserve some doubts to retain your sense of self.

A great deal of the Trump spam is obviously the result of 5WPR, especially at the beginning when we were absolutely swamped with OC basically from nowhere. HOWEVER, what Trump has said and done since is what has won over most of /pol/ in an honest way. Donald Jr. and Eric, when speaking, have also shown how honest their beliefs are, and they are not just skeevy politicians who will say whatever they want. Go watch their townhalls and tell me if they seem dishonest. You can tell that the entire family deeply cares about the country (with the benefit of saving America also saving their wealth since they're heavily invested in real estate) and they care about their people. Trump and his family all address staff by their first names, and act exactly how white collar management is supposed to act. My evaluation of them even if they are exactly as they appear (without reading between the lines) they're still the heroes this country needs and not the heroes this country deserves.

That said, I'll watch, and wait and see exactly where their leadership takes the country while we try to navigate out of the worst economic collapse since the great depression, the worst race relations since the crusades and the overture to WW3.

>>5091

>Applied memetics and shills

We know for a fact that there are shills, however we have no idea who they are or how many of them there are. /pol/ has been gripped by the idea that every dissenting opinion is a shill - how do we know that the number of shills has been rising and not that a greater number of peope are starting to express concerns?

There is no way to tell.

"shills" has itself become a meme, the effect of which is to maintain the status quo against even fact - no growth can take place in such an environment

The best way to deal with shills that push untruthfulness is screen caps of refutations that can be easily spread - if done in this way it ensures that the status quo is maintained only so long as it is truthful

What is happening now is that, more and more, this has stopped becoming a search for truth but a social club, a cult of personality

And that is very dangerus. If /pol/acks follow ideas first then it ensures that candidates who wish to win their votes and the votes of those they convert must be true to those ideas - but if the object of veneration is the man himself then there is no anchor to his conduct, h may act however he pleases with full support

>Dog whistling

Dog whistling proves nothing, if indeed it is even happening and we are not projecting our fantasies onto the man.

These subtle dog whistles that /po/ believes it sees are emminently deniable and so constitute no risk for trump - while at the same time winning over large portions of the alt-right for zero cost

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/pol/ doesn't fully realize it, but it is an extremely valuable asset for any campaign - flooding polls, spreading memes, controlling conversations and bashing the opposition in ways that the candidate himself is unable to

There is every incentive for trump to invest resources in controlling /pol/ whether through subtle soundbite hints (if that is happening) or through paid posters and mod takeover

>>5092

If Trump is for real, then we need to support him 100%.

If he's not for real, we still need to support him because violating his campaign promises would lead the country into an accelerationist chaos, as we're on the verge of complete collapse anyway.

The only way you'd be opposed to it would be if you're an accelerationist and you haven't realized that Trump being a shill would create a collapse just as quickly as if you voted for Hillary to speed up the collapse. I'm opposed to accelerationism in general, historically it backfires, since the commies are patient and lazy enough to win through death of a thousand cuts before there's the classic dramatic action of purging millions of people. The purges only happen after they've already won and disarmed the populace or have enough of the military under their control.

Additionally, /pol/ absolutely realizes its value you can ask literally any /pol/ack and he'll tell you how influential it is. Control the memes, control the world.

You're wrong enough on enough things that you're either a newfag or a shill and I'm disappointed that /bmw/ has fallen so far.

>>5093

Talk like an adult. Every time I talk to a trump guy I hear the "I'm disappointed you don't agree with me" shtick (if they decide to type out a full sentence in the first place)

I've laid out my position already

We support policies, not men - in so doing we shift the entire political market place so that the politicians must act in accordance with those policy ends. cults of personality are only useful for the politician, not for any improvement

And no, we should not support him 100% because he doesn't support us 100%

Certainly he is the best likely option at the moment and I have never said otherwise, but this all-or-nothing approach that you take has no logical basis - support the policies and trump (and every other politician) will be forced to conform their platform to the changing political market in order to win votes

>Starts a thread with an "honest" question

>Except if you don't believe in my answer you're a retard

>Surprised when he gets banned for baiting

OP, what you don't seem to understand is that we are in a war. There are anti-Trump shills, there is proof of them having existed. Now, certainly, there are also pro-Trump shills, why wouldn't there be? But the anti-Trump shills have been demonstrated to be the sorts of people who utilize overtly destructive tactics. Consensus cracking, artificial consensus, sliding/derailing threads. It's also been demonstrated that, short of the Libertarians (and the self-exiled /leftypol/ communists), Trump is the most /pol/ oriented candidate. And yes, that's effectively picking someone for hitting 5/20 points when everyone else hits 1/20. But the issue with your thread, within this rationale, is that it lays the groundwork for the oft-spouted critiques of democracy, which oh-so-often end in suggesting the reader not vote at all. Funny then, how this rhetoric isn't seeing airtime in the Left wing. The reason you were banned was likely because your post fell into the same patterns that are used by the anti-Trump shills.

Now, certainly, I will give you the fact that this is not conducive to free speech. When shills apply every avenue of attack, everyone attacking looks like a shill. But what is the alternative? Give everyone airtime so we can have the same tired thread for the sake of those who haven't been paying attention? Give the right of speech to those who only wish to speak and not to listen? Grant the grounds upon which to fabricate an entire discontented userbase? (Alright, I'll be fair, there will be plenty of legitimate people airing legitimate grievances as well. At which point the shills will latch onto those complaints and add them to their arsenal of topics.)

Secondly, who the fuck do you think you are, slinging your e-dick around all the time. I've heard tale that you were the one who worked to push the idea of Ebola-chan being worshiped by doctors. Now you spout off about how you and the rest of /bmw/ (which I've long since stopped regularly browsing) made and pushed the cuck meme, which is half-truth at best. You may as well be a tripfag, trying to bank on social capital like that. Trying to leverage your reputation.

So you want to talk personal history? Sure, I'll bite. I was there to witness the /intl/ raid on /tg/, when the BO vanished. They started with the spambots, making an infinite number of threads. Once we had a bunker thread, they started shitposting about how Hotwheels allowed this to happen because he was trying to maintain a hands-off approach. Except they talked out of both sides of their mouths, both for and against his possible intervention.

Once some brave anon (Chrow, I believe) started up a bunker board, the real mess started. They claimed he was just an /intl/ plant waiting to fuck up the board again. They claimed he was part of the IRC circlejerks, that Hotwheels had promised /tg/ to him. They continued to condemn Hotwheels for not seizing control of the board himself, and for the prospect of him passing off the board when its owner wasn't around to defend himself. They argued against any prospective change, especially the institution of thread IDs, claiming that it would kill the anonymity.

Finally, Chrow got the board. He offered to give it back if the BO ever returned. He never instituted thread IDs. And the /intl/ shills vanished.

Why do I mention any of this? I want to illustrate to you the need for a strong authority, and the damage that unhampered shills can do. Because while your average 10cent poster doesn't give a shit, a dedicated agent can learn the board, the culture. They can learn how to subvert the community, how to appear authentic, how to turn small grievances into militant causes,

Make no mistake, BO, we are in a war, and if the world is ever going to be redpilled we will have to survive post-Election, no matter the results. So, you want to do something for free speech? Find us a better system to deal with those who are turning the board into a battleground.

Look at this

/pol/ is now plebbit tier in terms of moderation

https://8ch.net/polmeta/res/10200.html#10201

>>5096

Free speech doesn't work when you're being shouted down.

>>5096

extra characters for flood detection.

Free speech doesn't work when you're being shouted down.

>>5099

Read what I wrote again. The ban for talking about jews was from another anon, though I certainly think it's a valid point of concern

And what question am I running from?

>>5100

Can you rephrase because I'm not at all following what you're saying

I don't see how bibles ad quarans are related to this nor do I know what it is you think I'm avoiding

>>5103

Certainly, once I get unbanned on /pol/ I'm going to start threads about the importance of civility

It's becoming impossible to have conversations with anyone you don't already agree with - there's no information exchange

These have been collected from anons talking on EndChan

>>5112

>raiding /pol/ with bullshit

>muh free speech

Found the intl kike.

>>5099

As far as I can tell, this just confirms that /bmw/ has intl mods.

Time to move on, but we've already learned everything we need to from this board.

See you, space cowboys.

>>5114

Don't pretend like you've been here for more than 6 total posts

>>5114

>>5113

Also samefag, there's only one mod, me the BO

>>5113

>muh muh

>>5116

and your userbase just told you to get fucked.

That must sting.

>>5118

7th post for you now

So far one regular poster has disagreed with me

The sting is light though, it is me against against a hive, I have been insulted so much it no longer means anything

Indeed it only reinforces my belief that /pol/ has lost its mind - you care more about cleave to group thought than evaluating arguments in themselves

As an example we have your post right here, no attempt is made to make a point other than that I am at odds with the group

>>5119

>As an example we have your post right here, no attempt is made to make a point other than that I am at odds with the group

If you argue that Jews are behind Trump,then you should expect to be shouted down, so I really don't understand your point?

>>5090

His promises are too good to be true

I've said it before, and i'll say it again

Just turn off America's life support and let it die already

Vote Hillary, destroy America, and ==THEN==, and only then, will I trust Trump.

btw CIA still decides what the country actually does anyway, Pres. just makes the silly laws for transnational corps

>>5092

>What is happening now is that, more and more, this has stopped becoming a search for truth but a social club, a cult of personality

There it is again.

You don't want to discuss what is true or not, but yet you say stuff like this, and that makes you untrustable.

I'll give you time to write some real answers on why discussing what is truthful, or not, is something you can't do?

If you worked for some government or had BMW as your research project in the Normie world, not taking about stuff that will kill your cuckademic career is understandable.

If you really are interested in using memes to save white people, then not discussing what is true or not, becomes unexplainable, when you say all this stuff about weaponizing truth?

If you pretend not to understand what I am talking about, I'll take it that you are in reality anti-white, as I bumped the blue eyed thread JUST to remind BO and the lurkers what BO refuses to discuss.

https://8ch.net/bmw/res/4963.html

>>5123

Dude, sure whatever I genuinely don't see how that is reaated

I've seen you post that meme here a few times

It is pretty interesting that all the quarans are the same if that is the case, but haven't we had conflicts and contact with muslims since before the 15th century?

>>5130

Can you entertain the idea that you are not coming across as clear as it may seem?

From what I can tell you're saying that I haven't been responding to useful threads - true, I rarely post here most of the time I spend pushing memes on /pol/, facebook and imgur; I only check up from time to time

To adress again the muslim question, if what you're saying is true that all the quarans are the same then that is pretty damning as I cetainly don't believe that the book was divinely inspired and you could expect a great many errors and variations if copied by hand

My personal theory of the genesis of islam was that mohammed was a highly successful and intelligent warlord/meme wizard (the technical use of the term from the Scott Adams analysis of trump) he realized that religion offered far greater control and reward than traditional routes to conquering and ensuring loyalty

>>5127

Also, the korans are not all the same, so please stop derailing

http://answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm

>>5133

>Also, the korans are not all the same, so please stop derailing

Kings James Bible and the great bible is not identical to each other, but both are printed.

There i nothing like the Vulgate in Islam. If

>>5123

>unless BMW was

I don't think BMW really exists like a real responsive organization, other than just a logo to rally behind and work under (like Anon and the Guy Fawkes mask).

/pol/ is beyond saving at this point.

imkampfy has been a shill all along, it seems he have been paid to infiltrate /pol/ and influence the minds of the average /pol/ack and he is doing just that.

There is no saving /pol/ , we need to kill it and make a new one.

>>5141

That is very deep introspection, brother.

>>5142

I've noticed /pol/ under a meme attack in the recent past, where cruelty and torture were pushed as ideals the European stock should adopt.

My impression is it was an attempt to culturally isolate /pol/ by making it grotesque in appearance, while simultaneously discrediting /pol/.

channers need to stop lurking this cancerous board.

just let it die already.

There is no ways to show the mods the error of their ways, they are shills, you can't reason with shills, their loyalty lies where they get their paychecks.

>>5120

I implore The Bureau to start picking up on FOX News and FOX Business commercials, video clips, etc, as the raw material for use in memesis. I also suggest using the competitor's content as well for subversive memesis.

Here's why: If we look back on the computer as a model, one does not write software out of thin air; one requires existing and defined components to compose with. The same thing occurs in memesis: a new meme must attach onto existing structures.

Now, for as KEK as Pepe, Dolan, and Trollface are, they are memetic artifacts pretty much limited to the chans. Now we shouldn't cease their use, but instead integrate them into other meme structures much more vast numbers of people possess.

This is the purpose of stealing television content. Especially content that your target grew up on. They will activate the deepest and most forgotten experiences and feelings, ensuring a very tight bind upon acceptance.

Then again, maybe I'm just full of shit and memesis really is this /fringe/ and /x/-tier "The Secret" Jewery. I tend to think the fringe-ish treatment of memesis is simply a programmatic plant that makes the receptive targets more pliable (it's an instruction for the mind: "meme" it into existence, aka "do it!").

>>5145

Remember: The human mind is an association machine. The associations don't have to make sense; they merely have to pass scrutiny unchallenged by the target. This too is the secret of Television.

>>5144

I think /pol/ exists as a front now. It's a stuffed dummy the /leftypol/ types attack and the n00bs flock to. It is a commons and it's as shitty as any other commons. Anyone of any real importance discovers the quality hideouts encircling it.

>>5158

>When they ban me for no reason, I'll believe you.

No, I mean: treat it as if it was a muck pool you're culturing talent from. That's what I meant by "front." As long as /bmw/'s enemies beat up /pol/ and not /bmw/ it is serving a useful purpose to /bmw/.

>>5159

>so I'm not surprised of the Fire is rising meme

Same anon here. That is a meme much older than you can imagine. It is the story of the Phoenix, born of fire it flies high in the sky. Before it can reach the stars it bursts into flames and falls back to the Earth, only to be born again.

The story goes back millennia, and is rethreaded over and over again in newer iterations of the old-time mushroom trippers religions (like Christianity). The story is an allegorical telling of the life-cycle of psychedelic mushrooms (namely the Amanita Muscaria mushroom), much like the Gospel story is an allegory for the celestial events of Christmas Eve as seen in the higher latitudes!

See the work of Jan Irvin and John Marco Allegro.

>>5163

I should add, the story of Jesus' death is a mutation of the Phoenix meme. Think about it…

>>5165

The memes favor us /bmw/

praise KEK

>>5165

Can anyone confirm this?

I reserve judgement

>>5109

>Hugbox

>Stormfags

Shill associated buzz words.

>>5110

>"admittance" to shilling

Whether well intentioned or not thats their own fault.

>>5111

>Hugbox

Shill associated buzz words

Thanks /int/ you can fuck off now

>>5165

Shill detected and reported…

>>5172

You are using the same logic as tumblr, certain words trigger you and lead to banning

Instead of nigger or straight it's stormfag

>>5180

^-'s point is if you want to counter enemy propaganda ('stormfag'), it's better to make memes that make 3rd party viewers kek at users of the word 'stormfag' like they're weenie losers.

You must associate the use of the word 'stormfag' with the limp-wristed latté-sipping butt-end-of-every-joke cuck. Then 'stormfag' will lose its power.

It's a matter of re-structuring your viewers internal meme supercomplexes so that their receipt of 'stormfag' yields a result you desire rather than an undesired one.

>>5181

I don't use the word myself, sing it on a natsoc friendly site will only set you up to fail, but neither would I wish to ban people that do use the word

I want leftists on the board to challenge our ideas because they will attack any weak points we have as we attack any weak points they have - the net result being that we both improve our ideologies and start to converge on the truth

If people are banned for not catering to the sensitivities of the protected group (in this case the alt-right, in the case of tumblr the SJWs) then this dialogue cannot happen and so the conversations become stagnant rehashes of a consensus maintained by social pressure and mods rather than reason

>>5171

Not that anon,. but I have no idea how any of that relates to anything being discussed

>>8205

>Ways to convince the mods of the error of their ways

Come on now, the mods are part of the opposition. Like how 4chan got bought out, 8chan got taken over not long after.

If anyone remembers, when the old BO gave up April last year (anybody know why?), some dark horse got ownership. The BO of /pdfs/ said (this year I think) that he knew this guy from /pol/ IRC or something, but that his running of pol is contrary to the claims he was making at the time about running it well and being communicative and fair. It's ridiculous how little we know about him.

I'd say keep piling up screencaps of unjust bans and try get the ear of the owner of /pdfs/ and ask him who the /pol/ BO is.

>Alternative sites

Just going to fracture the userbase more and more. I thought I was posting this on 8ch but when I looked up I saw it was endchan and then had to come back here. Confusing and fractured as fuck.

It's because you are planting shill threads/posts for no apparent reason.

If you really have a question you need to answer, answer it yourself. Look at all the details and find out which way is right for you, yourself. Don't shit up /pol/ with it.

I agree sometimes bans are unfair and unjust, but like I said above, don't shit up /pol/ with your questions.

>>5202

There's the problem thugh, we ban people for eing shills now for simply bucking group concensus

Look at what happened the other day with Trump seemingly changing his position on H1B's during the dbate nly to realize his error after everyone started speaking out and then emphatically disavow support of H!b's

Everyone who posted legitimate concerns about trumps H1B policy was called a shill - there were literally hundreds of dismissed reports for being "anti-trump"

That event alone will likely begin to moderate /pol/ because it demonstrated for the userbase how rabid trump support has gotten to the point here even if he backs down on main policy issues people still call you a shill for questioning him. Many users saw this and now will be less likely to act in such a way in the future so the problem may solve itself

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We have to question and even attack him in areas that he's weak, because he changes his position to suit the hivemind in a way few candidates do - our criticism steers him

>>5198

It will fracture the userbase until such a point as we find the best alternative and then word spreads and people will start to coalesce again

Generally the only people that get left behind are the one's that don't contribute much anyway - 8chan's memes were dank even though our userase was a fraction of half/pol/'s

>>5206

I legitimately think you're a schizophrenic

You keep saying I am not answering your question that talk about some bullshit with quarans

Come to the point or leave

>>5206

And also you say that you are intentionally deraiing and your post style is the same in every thread you post in on here - inane pseudo intellectual ramblings about incomprehensible semiotic theories

Are you derailing those threads too?

Is all you do on here shit up this board intentionally?

>>5207

>I legitimately think you're a schizophrenic

DID YOU ANSWER POST >>5203

Why do you want to present the one who has posted the most on BMW as schizophrenic?

Google cuck + Tunglet or cuck and hateword, dear anons, and look at who you want to trust, me or BO?

>>5231

First that post is not a question and secondly it wasn't directed at me

Further you say in that post both that you don't want to ban shills ands that you hope shills will get banned by coaching anons to report suspected D&C - which in reality lends itself only to the maintenance of the status quo as anything that varies significantly from that is at equal risk of being called shilling

>>5232

I'm torn on the usfulness of meme magick, on the one hand it MAY make people more likely to post memes dealing with a specific issue and so shift the overton window in relation to it as a byproduct of their shitposting, but on the other hand it seems to have the effect of making people spam things without thinking critically, spamming stupid magick shit like the oathbreaker and possibly obscuring the true nature of the power of memes

>>5234

It's a signal to noise thing, to use lingo you might understand.

We signal, and the shills produce noise and false signals.

We can't help that, but by getting the shills to add real signals to the false signals and the noise, we can achieve a cumulative red pill effect?

If we can force the JIDF, the Russian shills or the Western cuckold army, to use pro-white language to sell their talking points, it would be a great benefit, even if the number of shills were doubled.

It perhaps unfair to use you as an example, but I don't really mind if you sail under false flag or not, if we can manage to get you to behave like a contributing member of the board, in order to not be caught shilling?

Neither do I mind if the mods on pol are honest sailors or not, as long as have to pretend hard at being unbiased, if they want to stay mods.

It is impossible for us to know if the BOs, mods and anons are honest sailors not anyway, and looking for them all the time is too much work.

What we can do, to correct the problem is to demand a high standard and good faith, by banning the behavior shills use to D&C.

Shills and those sailing under false flag, never admit mistakes or that they use dirty tricks to win the discussion, as they know that never acknowledging good point of the enemy, enrages him, as he assumes that good points should be acknowledged.

When you for instance wonder if I am schizophrenic in order to win the discussion, you set the standard for the tools shills can use to D&C.

If you want a board where it's OK to call anons schizophrenic, that is fine by me, btw. as i have no problems with hostile environments, as long as not everybody is scared away.

Since we are talking hypothetically, do you agree that if you were an academic that had BMW as your research project or worked for some org or agency, then it would be problematic if you were to take the claims in the blue eyes thread serious?

I will try one more short story, as it might be a lesson to the lurkers, even if you refuse to see the relevant point?

When the Norwegian Wave of Black Metal was started, it was a rebellion against being cucked, before the word was invented.

Never could music just be music, but always used to sell some political or commercial message.

Given that this is true, the way to escape it was to take on an image so abhorrent to the masses and the media, that no political group tried to subvert the subculture by offering venues and an audience, and that there were no way to popularize the music money vise.

They took on an image as Devil worshipers, hid the melodies in noise, and discovered meme magic, as the facade the outside world saw, was taken as real by outsiders, and acted upon as if it was real.

That the Devil worship the insiders used as a joke to separate insiders from the clueless outsiders, was acted upon as real, made two individuals Varg Vikernes and the guy he killed, start a game where they blurred the lines between reality and fiction, to get the outsiders to do as they wish.

Varg hated Christianity, and dreamed of getting the outer party to burn all the churches, and get some nationalistic revival going, so I guess he started that trend. The guy he killed was LARPing this evil dictator, and tried to make Black Metal adhere to progressive dialectics.

The subculture kind of got more that they bargained for though, when the outer party continued to burn churches as the media refused to understand that Vikernes nor the guy he killed, didn't really worship the Devil.

Although the joke getting a little bit too real, might have taken it's toll on the musicians, Black Metal did stay free of all leftist and commercial interests for years.

Even if someone in main stream society, like a journalist, politician or major record label employee knew the truth about the joke, they couldn't say that in polite company, without sounding stupid and ignorant, because they didn't know about the devil worship, murders and the church burnings,

I'll answer you next post as well, and talk some more on historical revisionism being my devil worship front to separate out outsiders, as it's so toxic to the "normies". but here is an interesting documentary on the subject NWBM.

Recommend warmly.

>>5165

ban appeals, retard.

>>5203

the bmw BO is posting on endchan and freech, anon.

He's a goon.

Take that as you will.

>>5240

>the bmw BO is posting on endchan and freech, anon.

>He's a goon.

>Take that as you will.

I don't particularly care what he is, but I don't understand why he would want to be a member of the compost pride movement, unless he is paid to do it?

I won't bother to visit endchan or freech either to look for BO among the anons.

BO should be smart enough to understand that he would be found out by the real alphabet agents, and that they would have removed him, if he interfered with their plans for the goon squad.

If BO don't have a government protecting him, and he is involved with anything that can be interpreted as illegal, he could end up as scapegoat for some serious shit.

What I think is most likely is that BO were extremely pissed at all the shilling, so when the mods banned him, he became very pissed.

I was also kind of pissed at BO, and though, aha, finally I have him in a tread that he can't escape from.

I'll admit that I did not play nice when I kind of hijacked the thread, but to BO's honor, none of my posts have been deleted, and I am still unbanned.

He also passed the not being completely dishonest test, so we'll see what he'll say, as I think my last post had some pretty good points.

Fenriz Black Metal UniversityFULL Video Part 1 is embedded

Fenriz Black Metal UniversityFULL Video) Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdyvXc_-M7U

>>5235

>I'm torn on the usfulness of meme magick, on the one hand it MAY make people more likely to post memes dealing with a specific issue and so shift the overton window in relation to it as a byproduct of their shitposting, but on the other hand it seems to have the effect of making people spam things without thinking critically, spamming stupid magick shit like the oathbreaker and possibly obscuring the true nature of the power of memes

Can you understand the benefit if the popular language concerning memes are made to fit our needs for communicating on memes, rather than it being developed by academics that want to communicate with other academics?

By creating the meme magic fork in operative systems between shitlords and normies, the concepts we use to talk about memes no longer corresponds with the concepts the academics or the marketers use.

Wizards don't go to Univershitty to be brainwashed, so when meme magic became real for the anons, it spawned a whole new interest in what it was, how it worked, and how it could be used.

What made the fork permanent, was that nobody focused on that everything discovered was pol/DS/TRS dependent, so that meme magic was the magic component everybody discussed, when pol managed to influence the world as a collective.

Normally when something new happens, some priestly cuckold cast usually take leadership position, by being able to explain everything using a lingo that only the cuckademics understand.

This didn't happen here, because none of the existing expert lingos explained the phenomena very well, so that the selection mechanism was put on what worked or not.

To be able to copy the stuff that worked, pol needed to be able to speak about it, so the anons started to name the things they though important using words other polacks might understand, rather than looking up the word the experts use, and teach pol that one.

The sheer number of people that can grasp "post what you what to happen, and magic might make it happen", is huge, and most will be like the clueless Black Metal outsiders, that think the devil worship real, while the insiders know the devil worship is a joke, just all organized religion is a joke.

I don't know if meme magic will survive as a meme, but I am pretty certain that a lot of the vocabulary it will spawn will be used by future academia to some degree, because using the meme magic language will be the only way to communicate to others on what we do.

What doesn't produce magic for pol, is almost as important as what works, so thanks to the retard oath-breaker pollutor, we have a perfect example on how retard memes have to be massively shilled, as just one idiot barely produces noise. If we suddenly see a lot of such noise, we can be certain that something very fishy is going on.

>>5092

> /pol/ has been gripped by the idea that every dissenting opinion is a shill

The fact of the matter is that once an opinion has been exposed as having been paid for, then every individual expressing the same or similar opinions is called into question. I believe Israel should be destroyed, and I call every pro-israel poster a shill for that very reason, though I'm aware that there are individuals who happen not to have been bought. Sure it's a circlejerk, but those who buy opinions deserve to have their positions completely disregarded. Does that mean some genuine skeptics get spurned? Yes it does, but that's the fault of those purchasing the positions.

>>5097

>origin of ebola chan

>december 14th 2015

>>5163

Fire could be said to be the first technology, and even the first human meme.

>>5164

Jesus was/is a human self-archetype. In other religions, human self-archetypes would almost always be figures of wisdom and/or bearers/gods of fire. And much like Icarus falls to the earth, so does the phoenix, only to ascend anew.

>>5254

>Odin was not the firegod, Loki-lucifer was.

I neaver said that human self-archetypes were both. Odin is the figure of wisdom

>do you think BO is sailing under false flag?

I haven't been away from the fourth channel long enough to address that question with any real certainty

>>5240

/pol/ fag pls leave.

/bmw/ BO is not a goon, fuck off.

your mods are shit, ours are good.

>>5203

>/pol/ in its current form is D&C central.

>by silencing dissenting opinions, they are making a fertile ground for D&C,shills and trolls,contributing to the downfall further

>it will eat itself, since alot of fracture points exist that can be exploited by shills or trolls pretending to be shills.

> they become weaker every time posters are being silenced, it just enforces one specific view becoming detached from reality further and further, and when faced with a real problem,they will break,the same way tumblrites break when they see gore during a raid

>No real evolution happens on /pol/, they have their safe space where there is no real challenges to test the strength of the community.

>Every time someone tries to point out a flaw in the way the board is run, they are getting banned or bumplocked.

>How can you test a system if people are not supposed to point vulnerabilities?

> calling everyone a shill and the rampant paranoia serves only one purpose.

>To create a boogey man kind of situation making /pol/acks dependent on the BO/BVs so that they can hide being traitors.

but since /pol/acks seem content with all this faggotry and unable to see the problem, I can't see a way of saving it.

>>5293

Well thought out

>>5293

I don't think it can be saved, it's going the way of every previous chan - eventually some memetic virus rises to dominate and stifles competition then the brightest people get bored and move somewhere else and start a new chan

Then all the bright people make dank memes which attracts normies who are more susceptible to group think and eventually they form a hugbox, take over moderationa dn the proces repeats

IT'S THE CIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRCLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

THE CIRCLE OOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOOOOOF LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE

>>5301

>But there are a nearly infinite number of problems - every time we improve we are met with new problems to solve. The importance of chans goes well beyond a single issue

Where do you think the meme of the hydra come from, if not from the real world, where solving one problems gives two new ones?

>Indeed, if we succeed in our racial endeavors then we will have done nothing more than to repeat the conditions of the past - conditions from which we fell

We have won one the white genocide issue, I am sure of that, but I don't know if we can scare the anti-whites to not put up a fight,or do something crazy?

>The work is far from over and not restricted to any singe field or policy area - indeed not even restricted to politics!

That is why I am talking Black Metal, because their rebellion against the cucks succeeded, much because they used memes the mainstream could not admit that they understood.

The BM-musicians are also the only ones that have helped us, and that should count for something, when it comes to who we want to learn from?

At least since they have made a lot of the memes known, that we can tweak to be pro-white?

Forces of the northern light - Assemble

Forces of the northern night - Call to arms

Summoned by the secrets of sacrifice

( Dimmu Borgir )

Meeting destiny on the road we took to avoid it

As we only compete with ourselves

Left is that of a confident union

( Dimmu Borgir )

What bridge to cross and what bridge to burn

Deceit is everywhere you turn

We weed out the weak and their weep

( Dimmu Borgir )

Evolving - Compulsively

Behaving - Inconsistently

Yet the pulse is pounding

Restoration is the name

For those who are left in the game

Invocation in the name of our flame

PS bonus video for fellow norwayfags.(of which it is probably 0)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZcPCTnY1HI

>>5298

>With the importance gone, the shills will go, and then it will be fixed this way-

This is a good general concept but may not apply to /pol/ since I believe that the mods are the shills here, so they are not going anywhere while there are still people using the board.

until it comes to a screeching halt, which may take some time.

During GG on cuckchan , it was pointed out that the ultimate goal is to compromise the administration of the (forum/chan) therefore killing the community from the inside.

idk if imkampfy was a shill since the beginning or got paid later to sell out .

But it's clear now that they already won the battle of /pol/ , trump shills killed it further, they are starting to do the same thing on /b/, driving /b/ more into a general leftist mindset.

>>5090

Defeatists belong with Muh PR cucks at the bottom of a ditch

>>5370

How is this thread defeatist? It's dealing with an emerging threat

>>5109

>>5110

>>5111

Whatever case you had is gone now. You're an idiot that posts low value / high controversy posts.

You want a free discorse but you provide nothing of value in your opening statements. Each of your points has been previously refuted

>unironically using stormfags / hugbox

>"i am a shill"

>but muh discourse

>>5126

If you want it destroyed vote sanders. HRC has been helping run this country for decades. Do you think her 8 years will destroy it? No, it will be status quo.

>>5134

From your post I'd gather the implication is that those in power used the church as a mechanism to gain control on the population and re-wrote history. Possibly the Koran is evidence of a history before that revision?

Where can I read more?

>>5171

This post is not helpful. Cryptic and even if it does relate to the story of the pheonix that you're replying too, it doesn't explain how.

Pure ramblings.

>Thousands of years ago is no problem for you guys, because you are surrounded by burgers that thinks thousand of years is no problem, since we know all this stuff about the roman Empire, and that was 2000 years ago…

Passive agressive way of saying that an alleged revised history exists and that human history is much less than 2000 years? Or?

>Jesus lived in the other Roman Empire, ….

This has very little context for anyone that hasn't studied the same esoteric books you have read. Your punctuation is off too, adding to the confusion.

>shitolic church used dials that gave 12 hours night and 12 hours day = geocentric non globular world.

What the fuck man, this doesn't have any context or explination. Cite your sources, tell the purpsose of your ideas not the whole history. Start with a simple thesis: "I have seen evidence supporting the idea that X isn't true. Try researching Y, Z, Q"

>If you insist that wikipedia is correct,

We can agree here. There is too much corrpution in wiki to take anything at face value. Things of no importance are less corrupt, but even boring articles are riddled with intentional and unintentional biases and misinformation.

>>5180

>>5182

If you want to be heard on tumblr you pretend to use the word cis and don't say nigger.

if you want to be heard on pol you use the word nigger and don't stir up a hornets nest with stormfag (because the confirmed shills use it)

When you try and get a bank loan you preach stability of your business plan. When you try and get a venture capital loan you preach innovation and risks.

When you sell rap music you show gold necklaces and 100$ bills. When you sell country songs you show a cowboy hat and a pickup.

BASIC marketing. Know your audience. You preach idealistic top level memetics but you don't even practice what you preach or understand basic sales…

>>5379

Did you even read my post?

>I don't use the word myself, sing it on a natsoc friendly site will only set you up to fail, but neither would I wish to ban people that do use the word

>>5385

>You haven't answered anything that is clear, so why should we pretend you will not continue to do the same, if everything is explained on a kindergarten level?

Not that anon, but multiple anons now have pointed out that your posts are all but entirely incoherent - if you're having a problem communicating your ideas it's not you audiences fault

>How can you not see this, if you are as legit as you claim to be?

Literally "If you aren't a shill then you'd agree with me"

Speak plainly, you'e already admitted to intentionally derailing the thread - speak plainly or leave

>>5090

your post reads like a thread that we have about 12 of every day, I am not surprised it got you banned considering the rampant shilling recently

believe it or not, /pol/ wants to have quality threads about politics, not a shit ton of the same shitty bait spammed constantly, you just made a thread that looks exactly like the latter

>>5430

>Can I get the honor of the cuck-meme, before you piss on me for instance?

For that you are to be commended, certainly. You've done a great service

However, that does not mean that everything you say is correct or that everything you say is always clear.

You have a style of writing that in many instances smacks of mysticism and I believe is intentionally obfuscated - but there are threads that you post in (your writing style is distinct) where you come across far more clearly but generally after the other anon asks you to speak with grater clarity

>If you piss on the one that did the most to create the cuck-meme, then you are anti-white

No one is beyond reproach, I have already shown my restraint by taking no action after you openly admitted to derailing the thread, insulted me and called me a shill

If you want to talk about historical revisionism I give you my word I will talk with you if you link me the thread, but this is not the thread for it

lets see if this gets a ban…

http://8ch.net/pol/res/5422638.html

By the way has anyone else noticed that Trump hasn't mentioned the Federal Reserve once?

>"I liked Paul Volcker a lot"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-federal-reserve_us_55c25749e4b0f7f0bebb5760

Also Trump supported Janet Yellen for chairman.

Whatever happened to Audit the Fed?

>>5441

And yet the board rapidly rises to the top of 8chan.

>>5465

Lovely, now stop shitting up the thread

>>5096

The key term in that post is 'fair fight'. To ensure fair argumentation logical fallacies and arguing in bad faith must be banned. Otherwise the consensus will be more likely to become the easiest idea to accept or the easiest to promote, not nessecarily the truth.

>>5090

I agree with your message but I think you're being a little dishonest in using the sticky feature to spread your message.

>>5090

>2 - Alternative sites

You could try >>>/politics/

>>5538

Perhaps, but I want to bring the issue to the fore as much as I can (and the mods seem to be more moderate in their moderation recently)

We face threats not only from without, but from within; the truth is out there and is to be striven toward but the moment we begin to support our worldview beyond the truth of the thing then we will have lost the only power we had

Memes that develop in hugboxes cannot compete beyond the confines of their enclosures as foreign memeplexes will not offer the same protections

Truth makes memes dank and if we become a hugbox then our memes will lose their dank

/b/ has fallen too, the new /b/ bored owner bans people for shit posting now.

banned for shit posting

on /b/

facepalm

>>>/pol/ has really fallen.

Just look at the responses to >>>/pol/5583905

>>5090

>1 - Proposals to break the circlejerk

See >>5552