No.77
GUYS. We need to do this properly. As with any research bureau, we need to record things. We need to PROVE that the memes have broken into real life.
So I think we should be documenting all instances of real life memes before anything else. The 4U plane, Ben Garrison, etc. After that, we should all participate in one experiment, Meme-00. This would be the basis of future research and if successful, would be VERIFIABLE PROOF that the introduction of virtual memes into the real dimension CAN BE DONE.
What do you think?
No.81
Look at what happened with Slender man
We need to be careful
No.82
>>81
I can't imagine this turning into something like Black Mesa, so caution shouldn't really be a priority.
No.85
How would you even track them? Once they get off an imageboard you can't run analytics on them.
No.88
>>85
In the case of Ebola, the strength could be correlated to how much it was reported within a certain time period.
No.89
>>85
Yes you can!
Use google analytics to track how often people are searching for things, I'm sure that there is an equivalent that does a search of what people are posting
Is anyone here able to program a search engine that tracks chan speak? We could identify memes as they arise by spikes in previously unique word usage
No.90
Here's what we have so far.
Baneplane, BenGarrison?, EbinPepe, Ebola
No.104
>>77
We should also do a control group meme. Something straight forward but unlikely.
Something comical even maybe.
Meme it.
See if it happens. This will be our marker. If it works later on we will be strengthened with renewed.vigor in our efforts to churn out a weaponized redpill meme
No.105
This is one of the best examples
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slender_Man_stabbing
Also, you used to see it everywhere but then it just stopped…
No.106
>>104
I don't think it would work if we started from nothing, a complete abstraction would have no roots
A better experiment would be to take a budding meme and nurture it so that it grows
No.108
>>104
>>106
But maybe I'm wrong, do you have anything in mind?
No.133
>>106
>>108
When I think of the basic idea we have I think two things
>either
The ultimate meme for us to create, considering the school of thought that what we are creating in doing this are actual gods of sorts, is 'god of truth-man meme' and conjure up a force that forces the truth to the surface to be seen by all and defeat lies.
>Or
If, what we are doing has nothing to do with creating a God but simply bending the fabric of reality through thought for a short period to bring about change, then the ultimate meme to work on would be 'crashing all the planes, fires rising and the corrupt rich being tossed in them'
In either case at the same time we should make a simple meme. Something that could prove to us that there is credibility in this idea. The meme should contain the wording or imagery or attitude which would conjure up the result.
It would have to be something that is news worthy so we will know it happened. I'd like to stay away from crashing more planes for now but who am I to argue with the hive mind from whence this meme will form.
No.135
>>133
>>133
How about a symbol representing life itself
It includes truth, beuaty and goodness, necessarily
We could even co-opt vision from the latest marvel film since his stated morality is to promote life
No.136
>>135
Does he have any memeable quotes or scenes? I don't watch hollyjew
No.140
>>136
He says that he's on the side of life and he's well known to plebs
possibly could be used to draw out how leftists are obsessed with abstractions rather than what is acually useful to life i.e. diversity quotas for firefighters that put unqualified people in charge of others safety
but at that point it seems a bit forced and we don't have enough resources at the moment to try a forced experiment
I think we should try to identify ad cultivate memes that arise naturally and are aligned with our cause
No.157
>>90
dont forget the incarnation of the iron pill, latsbrah
theres another im forgetting too
No.158
Meme 00 is already being conducted by the Chaotes, the meme is to increase interest in magick.
its clearly working well, as you can see, this shit never would have gotten a reply back on 4chan. Our numbers have swelled to maybe a hundred instead of a dozen in just a few short months.
No.160
Someone design a logo for Meme-00 with
>>158
and the motto "Satis Mentes Obvia"
Presumably butchered Latin for "With enough minds, it becomes real".
No.164
>>158
Can you link the threads?
No.169
>Mod stickied the thread
But like I said, document things. Always record.
As for Meme-00, it should be a time of experimentation. To work out what works and what doesn't and to delve into stuff we don't know.
>>106
I agree with what this anon said, making something out of nothing is too far out of our league at this point, but in the future we might be able to do it. At this point, we should nurture a young, yet growing meme (pic rel?) and try and replicate the conditions it needs to appear in real life. Right now, we should be focusing on recording and analyzing previous cases of memes breaking the 4th wall - Look at the circumstances with which they happened, the conditions they happened under. Look at everything that could have caused this meme to come into reality.
No.174
>>169
So Ok. I guess now we brainstorm on what meme to create? Create the meme. Then monitor results? I don't know anyone got any bright ideas?
No.177
>>169
The ones that come to mind:
- /BANE/crash
- Slendy killings
- Ebola Chan and the Ebolites
- Ben "The One Man Klan" Garrison
- Various Anhero school shooters (they fit a meme profile, the meme may have influenced their behavior)
- Cases of demonic possesion?
All in all, I think the slender man killings are the strangest and clearest manifestation of a meme
No.179
>>174
Not create, but find one to nurture and spread
No.180
>>174
>>179
Perhaps the Arthurian legend that tells of the kings return
Perhaps we could meld it with pic related which I have seen popping up all day - supposedly it it the sign of "The New Man
No.184
>>180
that's just a bunch of squiggly lines anon. We need something that will become real here.. I think that's what we're trying to do. I don't know. If we don't think of something new we may have to wait for a natural meme to occur on 8chan but we should try something.
No.196
>>184
How about the Red-Pill itself as the meme?
It represents enlightenment, it's already well known.
If we go with this smiling face as the carrier then it can be used as a reaction image to "red-pilling"
No.199
>>184
>squiggly lines
Nigga, that's a glyph. Read more Crowley. That's basically a spell.
No.200
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>>196
Like this but more pilly
No.206
Consider the following: Your advertisements are shit. Whenever I see you guys advertise on /pol/, it usually has a picture of Spurdo. Don't do that. People are still pretty fucking upset about /int/, and spamming their poster boy isn't helping. Second of all you need to give an extremely detailed reason that memes are the way to go. None of this three sentence bullshit I keep seeing on /pol/. Act like you're onto something, elaborate. Feel free to work with this.
This seems like a stupid idea, but consider this. The jews have infiltrated our countries through mixing, adopting our last names, and all the other ways we like to talk about, but we don't talk about them infiltrating the culture enough. They have infiltrated the culture, and it has been much more effective than most people think. The average dipshit in your country. Imagine that person. That person and their shit political views are the result of cultural infiltration. The jews own just about all forms of entertainment. The average person will revolve around at least one form of entertainment. TV, movies, comedy, music, all jew owned. Their politics are spread through these mediums. This is the reason why people white knight the jews even though a lot of people don't know anything about the jews. This is the reason people are pro race mixing. This is the reason people hate national socialism over communism even though communism killed WAY more people than national socialism. I could go on and on. Cultural infiltration isn't a hopeless situation. We can do the same thing, but promote our politics instead. This is the idea we're talking about. What can the people on this website do better than anyone else? Memes. We have the best memes. Other websites try to make memes like ours and fall short. Normalfags fucking LOVE memes, OUR memes. Do you remember "Hitler did nothing wrong"? That's one of our memes. We created that entire situation. Sometimes when Hitler is mentioned around normal people, they'll say "Hitler did nothing wrong". That's us influencing the culture. It is possible, we just need to focus on it instead of waiting for happy accidents. We can take the culture back by utilizing what is arguably our greatest strength.
No.210
Get on Twitter.
Use memes we develop on this board.
>>>/bmw/185 for example.
Report back what WORKS and what doesn't.
Make adjustments were needed.
No.213
Could we do something with the yee dinosaur? (Chrome is being gay and wont let me load picture) He is stupid, easy to laugh at, and pretty obscure. Normal fags seem to like him. If we make some changes to him we could bring him into existence for scientists to "discover". Here's some videos for better judgement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tha07Sasx60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZZxsSdKiOM
No.222
If trips you are obliged to help make a based leader, through memes.
No.223
>>222
Check em.
So, here it is, get to it:
>>31
>>>/pol/2002842
No.224
>>196
That could work but look at how the red pill doesn't really work on everyone. Most grab onto disinformation and believe they are redpilled. We need to summon truthman God of all truthful knowledge, devout enemy of lies.
No.225
>>224
>>224
Or:
Double Aught Truth - the shotgun shell that blows your brains out with knowledge
No.284
No.293
>>158
It helps that you were able to make your own board on it.
And that you spammed it fucking everywhere. /ebola/ anon here, stickies are not the place for interforum advertising. Especially not ones about an existing project.
But those are just my jimmies. Beyond that, I think this project will do well once it gets its head out of selfish interests like reviving the Nazis.
Then again, I can't talk; I'm supporting a semen demoness with the hopes that she'll kill everyone.
No.324
No.327
The 00 meme is not the chaote, it's the idea that memes are alive
The meme is that memes are alive
It is the basis for all of our work, and it is itself not without basis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explanatory_gap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_reason
The immaterial is real, there are sentient stories. Things motivated by beauty and emotion but not by physical causes
No.334
>>164
>>293
this wasnt meant as recruitment for a specific board, Chaotes are neither organized nor a community, we simply attach to other groups and slowly infect their consciousness with our own. Both of you are now Popes.
No.339
Thoughts on this? CIA shills very much welcome.
>>322
>>331
>>337
No.346
>>334
>MFW I'm now an Ebola-Pope.
Thank you, Discordianon.
No.353
Memeize liberal black and black trannyboy with the title, "white race is the enemy on Earth and should be enslaved". It needs to be in many languages in order to spread globally. Promote that meme on twitter. This meme is blue pill suppressor. What do you think?
No.356
>>353
Correcting my mistake.
> Memeize liberal half black and white trannyboy with the title, "white race is the enemy on Earth and should be enslaved". It needs to be in many languages in order to spread globally. Promote that meme on twitter. This meme is blue pill suppressor. What do you think?
No.360
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Contributing when you can't tell if this is real life
No.365
No.368
>>356
They'd take it to heart, we'd be killed
Such is the power of memes
No.402
>>368
Not necessarily
Think about how effective
le ebin fedora SCP has been
point out some marked feature of the SJWs i.e. flaming bright hair, armpit hair, or those giant glasses they wear
once they have been mocked, they are opened up to attack on their ideological structure because people stop assuming that they are right (mocking something inherently opens up the possibility in the mind of the viewer that there is something wrong with that thing to begin with - it softens them up for an attack at the root of their ideology by reducing how seriously the viewer takes the mockee)
No.443
No.460
>>77
Assuming that SCPs can become reality, we also need at least a rough estimate of how many people it takes to post a certain SCP, and for how long, before it manifests.
How long had /bane/ been in existence before the real-life banecrash happened? How many people were posting on the board the day of the crash? These are important questions to consider.
No.464
>>133
>I'd like to stay away from crashing more planes for now but who am I to argue with the hive mind from whence this SCP will form.
I'm personally of the opinion that you should stick to small and innocuous SCPs until the process is better understood
I mean, you people inadvertently crashed a place killing 100+ people and now, with little to no idea how you even did what you did, you want to make sweeping changes to the entire planet using SCPs
I vote keeping it simple and light to begin with before you accidentally start a nuclear war or something
No.468
So what are strongest SCPs right now?
One small god I can think of is loss.jpg.
Is it big enough for you?
No.492
>>460
The universe is full of patterns that appear in everything, like the Golden Spiral or Fibbonacci sequence. It's possible that by creating these patterns through SCPs, they start to act like they were there all along. Most, if not all of the numbers in the 4U crash correspond to the Bane scene. Humans follow the pattern by making art and quoting lines, the universe follows it with actions, coincidences and numbers.
No.502
WE EXTENSION NOW:
>>501
>>337
No.559
No.616
>>90
I had an alarming realization. Metal Gear Solid SCPs have been an integral part of regular SCP posting over in /v/. What if the power of that SCP posting was so great that it entered the fabric of reality through the existence of the head transplant doctor? The weird coincidence involving that doctor could easily be explained through SCPtrics.
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No.627
>>353
>>356
Yes good goy, lets use the power of SCPs to speed up the destruction of the European race :^) And promote more race mixing and trannies too!!
No.628
>>360
>Le goy
Jesus what is going on lol
No.629
>>402
You fool, the marxists are ALREADY openly attacking and calling for the genocide of the European race as is, and nobody is allowed to speak out against them.
I don't see how this could possibly do us any good… Must be a shill or some shit.
No.644
No.3956
>>92
We are in the Baneverse now!
No.3967
>>104
Let's work something out.
>>>/dod/2
No.3968
>>106
We need to start from nothing because we need to isolate what exactly it is that gives memes power.
Is it something to do with the picture itself? Is it the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are thinking about the same thing? Is it both?
We need to test these all individually to find out.
No.3971
>>3968
I think that the only reason a meme would catch on is because of a property of the meme itself
either its truth value or its aesthetic quality
No.3976
>>3968
>We need to start from nothing because we need to isolate what exactly it is that gives memes power.
I believe it has something to do with the collective consciousness of groups of people. Much in the same way that a simple belief can change things in the human body (placebo effect).
Now, the real question is what causes certain memes to manifest and others not to?
There must be some inherent power in the meme, or something within it that allows us to give power to it.
We must dissect every meme that has manifested and look at it's progression. There have to be similarities that match up.
No.3985
>>3971
>I think that the only reason a meme would catch on is because of a property of the meme itself
But is the property of the meme what causes the magic, or is it what causes people to pick it up?
IE: Are we 'casting a spell' or are we dispersing a spell for millions of people to cast for us?
>>3976
I suspect this too, but I suspect that the meme itself is not just a way to cultivate consciousness, but also a focal point to make the magick more effective, or even to allow it to even occur.
I'll put together an experiment for us to participate in to first measure the effectiveness of visualization with no explicit meme.
No.4000
>>3985
>but also a focal point to make the magick more effective, or even to allow it to even occur.
Much in the same way a magnifying glass can concentrate photons dense enough to ignite paper and other flammables.
No.4028
Idk if this WebM originated on /bmw/, but it'd be cool if someone could build on/improve this
No.4385
>>643
Why don't we combine redpill with an already really popular meme such as smug pepe?
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No.5404
Unrelated, but might I suggest using CompendiumNG for mind-mapping?
It's non-hierarchical (meaning you can create loops, you're not stuck with a root/branch/node/branch/…/branch/leaf structure). It's very open-ended, assuming as little as possible. It includes MySQL support for multi-user interaction. It is multiuser (though one-user-at-a-time with the default Derby-driven DB). It can store files and resources in the database itself (Derby only).
PIC RELATED: CompendiumNG on my system.
No.5406
>>5404
>MySQL
>Derby
>multuser
It's fully multiuser. With MySQL the users can log in and operate simultaneously. With Derby users can only be on one-at-a-time.
No.5411
>>5404
Additionally, and again [mostly] unrelated:
In reference to my thought map, I'm thinking this(*a1) will need to be somehow integrated into the process of modelling or mapping meme-structures.
Ultimately memes are like a programming language, though an associative one with some semblance of logical control (if, then).
I do not wish to convey that a rigorous Boolean algebra/Lambda calculus for memes can be developed. However, this does not preclude the development of models which are at least somewhat useful at simulating certain phenomena…
(*a1):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mathematical_logic_topics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_algebra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean-valued_model
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_Boolean_algebra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicate_logic
I have not even begun to scratch the surface of Finkelstein's Memetics Compendium document. Some of the above may already be covered. I'm playing catch-up ATM with all this research.
No.5505
>>5411
Abstract algebra and logic sounds cool but will be mostly useless. But when you're at it have a look at nlab (https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/HomePage), I think you'll find it interesting (but not useful).