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 No.787

You can't force memes.

Forced memes seem awkward right? Some how we just know when a meme is out of place or not, for lack of a better word, "dank". My theory is this. All memes are manifestations of things that exist in our collective unconscious. When a meme is born, some part of this unconscious is stumbled on, thus triggering an emotional response and contributing to its spread. Large memes can accumulate more information as they move through this space until their size causes them to split into sub memes or implode, rendering them dead. Occasionally a large meme can influence other parts of the CU, leading individuals to unconsciously act out the meme and thereby bring it to life. Because the CU is not tied to space or time, but rather is pure information, memes can have effects across time, even in the past.

The way in which one truly creates a meme is not to create one at all. Similar to the Taoist concept of Wu Wei, in order to create a meme you must not attempt to create a meme or you will fail. The memes must flow through you.

All of mankind's gods can be seen as ancient memes. Through their worship they were given power as people meditated on and subjected themselves to the memes. This is why faith and ritual was so important to the gods, they could perform miracles if their followers had faith. They could make memes real.

Odin/Woden still exists in our unconscious. In fact his attributes predate his worship as Odin. There have been many spear wielding gods, wind gods, wise gods, and gods which sacrificed themselves only to live again. Odin arose out of these other memes as a separate god meme.

If you want a ruler of Europe, resurrect Odin. In fact study the relationship between Hitler and Odin, such as Franz von Stuck's "The Wild Chase" and the spear of destiny.

It happened once, it can happen again.

 No.789

The idea is more to shuffle around existing memes and place them where they are needed.

Also, you can successfully force certain memes, that's all political talking points are


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 No.871

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This this this.

This is why we can never truly *create* a meme, we can only adopt a meme.

What I'm thinking is that we should adopt ancient memes, and bring them back. We should all learn mythology and old bible tales and see what we can make of them.


 No.877

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You can't force wind into your sails, but you can make a proper fucking sail.

Humor, brevity, high signal:noise ratio, and cultural relevance.


 No.891

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Open the portals…


 No.957

I'm bumping this because I believe it deserves more consideration from /bmw/.


 No.964

>>787

>All of mankind's gods can be seen as ancient memes.

See OP, this is all you needed to say. It's no simpler or more complex than this singular idea. Chan culture has always been about finding the nuggets, and this is a proper nugget. What happens now is we dissociate the rest of what you said from our thought process because you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The rest is spiced-up stoner-level reasoning, and the truth is that the reason memes "manifest" isn't unconscious at all; we call out OP faggotry because we choose to. We troll any available legal system into accepting us a CIS trans lesbian women because it's funny and because we like to laugh.

You see, OP. Memes do not come from the soul. They do not come from the collective unconscious. They do not come from trying hard, or its opposite; trying hard to not be such a tryhard faggot, but they simply happen as a part of life.

Life is a joke, and we react accordingly. That is all the power memes ever needed.

Stop taking this so seriously OP, or you'll kill the mood.

Good post though; gives lots of room for explaining the more subtle faggottrees that surround us.

>>957

>I'm bumping this because

Now you on the other hand… You're just not being honest with yourself. It's fine, though; anon can be honest about you just by looking at your post.

What you meant to say was more along the lines of:

>bumping for attention

Now, again, I know you're not samefagging here. I know how desperate you are to agree with OP, to believe in the "magickal and asynchronous" quality of the modern meme, but this whole board is dank with the tryhard. I know you are your own individual faggot, anon, apart and separate from OP's subtle faggotry. It's important that we recognize these things because I'm not bumping for interest here.

I'm just posting feedback.


 No.968

>>964

It is impossible to say that these thoughts cannot and do not have physical effects, because what is physical arises out of non-impossibility

physicality is nothing but manifest possibility, so are thoughts so are memes

We know that the two realms mesh in consciousness, it seems strange that this would be the only point of contact


 No.1030

>>968

Ultimately, yes, it is strange, but until we can say for sure what possibilities are capable of emerging, "possibility" isn't enough to make a meme manifest physically. Personally, I think we should wait. Not for anything in particular, and not for a meme to form, but just to simply /wait/. I'm not entirely sure what the effect of waiting is supposed to be, I can imagine any number of purposes or motives that are served by waiting. Maybe it's a bad idea, maybe it's a horrible idea. Maybe it's somehow a good idea. Maybe "maybe" is all we need to make this work.

Maybe.


 No.1033

>>1030

You go ahead and sit out, I'm going to do


 No.1037

>>1033

Keep telling yourself that. Maybe some day you'll have the money to put in front of that mouth of yours.


 No.1043

I have to disagree. From what I've seen, all memes are forced. What matters is how quickly others pick them up. Some of the most prominent memes today (including baneposting and early acronyms like >mfw/>tfw) started as forced undeveloped shit that most people wouldn't have glanced at. Over time, a few autistic individuals spread them until others picked them up, perhaps out of a drive to blend in to the group or just because they saw it as funny. Imageboards are built on autism, and it is that autism that drives our memes.


 No.1044

>>1043

No, not all memes are forced. Many are, even before the Internet, but not all of them are. And I would argue the most successful memes are those that initially gained track without being forced.

Baneposting is not really popular btw and I think the plane crash was pure coincidence and typical looking for patterns.


 No.1046

>>1043

By the way I was there when >mfw and >tfw where initially created on Krautchan /int/. It was never forced, people found it funny and repeated it without anybody spamming it or forcing it. It later spread to other *chans.


 No.1047

>>1046

obviously only tfw was created on KC, forgot to clarify


 No.1049

>>1043

>>1044

More like this. I don't even care if it was samefag pretending to represent both sides of a the debate.


 No.1050

>>1049

There actually appear to be more than two people here right now. Fascinating, I know


 No.1051

>>1050

Based on my personal browsing habits after having discovered this board today, I'd say it feels like… 20? 30 anons?


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 No.1092

You wouldn't meme a machine into existence that creates machines that meme things into existence.


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 No.1183

>>1044

No, all memes are forced. If you've ever created a meme that's spread, you'd know that it often takes a bit of spreading and when people start picking it up is when it stops being forced. But not very often does a meme get picked up by a whole imageboard the very first time it's posted. 4chan was the homeplace for so many memes because true anonymity coupled with a high population allowed anybody to force a meme without anybody realizing that it was originally one guy spamming his shit everywhere.

More than one person can pick it up and start using it, but until it becomes so commonplace that it becomes natural vernacular, it's still being "forced".

>>1049

Not a samefag.


 No.1213

>>1183

> 4chan was the homeplace for so many memes because true anonymity coupled with a high population allowed anybody to force a meme without anybody realizing that it was originally one guy spamming his shit everywhere.

Is this how The Trashman came about? I can't stand that meme, never did.


 No.1214

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>>1213

>I can't stand that meme, never did


 No.1225

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>>1213

>I can't stand that meme, never did.


 No.1231

>>871

gayy

look guys,

anything you want in this life, will never come

anything you push too hard, will only go further away

it's best to create a meme of slight disdain, such as.

"Get all the fagging in now, cuz once the emperor shows up, it's shooting squads"


 No.1284

>>1183

True. For instance, "ayy lmao" was first posted by some german anon on 4cuck /int/ last summer on a seemingly boring thread (correct me if I'm wrong but I recall I was in the thread when he started it). It was fucking annoying, but now I've been brainwashed by its meme mastery.


 No.1306

>>1284

Isn't ayy lmao an /x/ meme?


 No.1307

>>1306

I thought it was from Tumblr?


 No.1311

>>964

>science proves that consciousness effects the outcome of things

>DIE CIS SCUM SCIENCE DONT REALS!!

The Bane crash is statistically impossible, yet it happened after thousands of people dedicated a concentrated shitposting spree to that one scene.

These are the kinds of faggots our foolish recruiting attempts bring in.


 No.1361

> Because the CU is not tied to space or time, but rather is pure information, memes can have effects across time, even in the past.

Kinda like how that 'age of Aquarius/polar shift entering a new reality/Mayan endtimes calender' memeage got pretty large back in 2012-2013.

Faggots ripped a hole in time and space and now we got the berenstain bears instead of berenstein bears and interview with the vampire instead of interview with a vampire.


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 No.1377

It is hard to manufacture memes. They commonly arise spontaneously and unintentionally. The creator's unawareness is part of the appeal.

If we want to make real change, eventually we need to migrate off of the internet.

Ultimately staying on the computer will be our demise (i.e., the surest way to be controlled is by sitting in front of a screen for the majority of your life).

Just as Thiel, Musk and friends met on IRC and went on to become billionaires we need to spawn our activism online but eventually migrate into the "real world".


 No.1396

The overall energy expended and think group behind it are the only impressive things about memes. If it weren't for these things forcing them there is no meme while there still will be a meme. The meme is only an expidenture of energy and as one holds the power of the energy that's put into it. I like your thoughts but your fucking over thinking this.


 No.1517

>>787

>You can't force memes.

Yes you can. Some memes are forced and end up successful, eg the bait meme, or for that matter, the biggest meme of all, Baneposting.


 No.1580

you guys should look at /monster/'s view on autism.

they call it "primordial" i think they know that their interests are very ancient. Now if other mene's can be traced back to ancient times then we can refine them and find that magic formula, hell it would be both hilarious and disturbing if something like that pontypool movie actually exists.


 No.1593

>>1361

>Not being Bernstein bears time-line master race.


 No.1618

vote, with confidence, for no confidence


 No.1673

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>>787

>You can't force memes.

But it worked for seaking.


 No.1726

>>787

>You can't force memes.

ayy lmao


 No.1736

>>1593

my man 👌


 No.4806

>>1284

ayy lmao has been around way longer than last summer smfh the knowyourmeme article on it is probably even way older than that


 No.4807

>>1673

the forced seaking meme became a meme because the concept of "forced memes" became a meme that manifested itself into the collective conciouness of 4chan at the time. This was one of the ironic instances of the forced meme meme, the most famous manifestation of the forced meme meme was the Milhouse meme, it because so meta that the ""Milhouse is a meme" is a meme" also became a meme.


 No.4810

>>4807

I forgot to add that a group's susceptibility to a meme is one of the most important factors to the success of a meme's propagation. Because of desperation of individuals on the site 4chan to create memes when the concept of "meme" was starting to becoming widespread in the collective consciousness of the Internet, there was so much forced memeing that many people were aware of it, it was quite jarring. Once they were of this forced memeing, they were now a part of a group that provided them exclusive knowledge and awareness to be susceptible to this new meme. Some started to spread ideas about this concept of memes being forced to one another and because the jarring forced memeing increased other individuals susceptibility to the meme, they were able to relate to this concept and enthusiastically embraced it. Once the collective consciousness surrounding forced memes began to expand, meta discussions surrounding forced memes arose and increased rapidly, these discussions foster loose connections between people. The natural altruism of the group loosely connected by the awareness "forced meme" concept led to humour surrounding this concept too, resulting in memes like the "Milhouse is a meme" meme and the "Seaking" meme.

It is worth noting that, with enough shilling any forced meme will soon become a meme because enough people will become aware of it consciously to discuss it and spread it, not necessarily in the way that the meme creator/s intended however.


 No.4823

>>787

You can't,but the oathbreaker can




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