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GLORIA LUX BRITANNIA

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586783 No.90

So I skimmed through the constitution google-doc, might I suggest instead of universal basic income, an initiative toward a revitalization of rural living, specifically in the Canadian prairies. Agriculture being an imperative of any flourishing nation/empire, while decreasing dependency on foreign staples and invigorating an otherwise currently bourgeois-centered economy into a more traditional orientation.

2528f7 No.91

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>>90
Instead of replacing the basic income (the core of the social security platform), I have no problem with additionally advocating subsidized greenhouse agriculture (potentially every new home/building could be required to have the top story a dedicated food greenhouse). Prairie monoculture can for the most part be automized and so encouraging a return this kind of family farm is simply luddism. I am strongly against 'make-work.' What we should be doing for the prairies is bringing back the vast herds of bison and planting islands of greenery as a barrier against a second dust bowl. The development of food forests is a special interest of mine. Imagine hillsides and plains covered with fruit trees and bushes, and home to many kinds of game. It can be done.

ALL HAIL BRITANNIA
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586783 No.92

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>>91
My concerns are mainly directed toward those of low-skill category who would overwise be replaced by automation, a potential hazard to integrity which increases as time passes on. It's never healthy for a civilization when population is densely concentrated in urban environments, this leading to psychological "tensions of place" and a vunerable infrastructure concentrated in key locations. I would argue that "make-work" can give a sense of purpose, direction and self-respect that handouts would never be able to supply.

With a decentralized framework, operations are not dependant on bottlenecks to continue functioning if things go awry.

Think anti-fragile.
http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Taleb_Antifragile.pdf
http://shifter-magazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Taleb_The-Black-Swan.pdf

I hope your ecological optimism sees fruitition.

2528f7 No.96

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>>92
Ah, I believe I included a section on unused space colonization, and the motivation for this was precisely this weakness of centralization.

As for social integrity- there is no way around it, technological civilization will create a greater gap between the intelligent and the not so intelligent… I personally would find unnecessary menial labour more insulting when the realization comes that I would find it difficult to truly contribute. That said I am sure there are new horizons that might find a true use for these people if they desire to contribute.

Thank-you, and I hope you will continue to bless >>>/britannia/ with your intelligent commentary!

ALL HAIL BRITANNIA

13c81c No.98

I do not like the constitution. It is degenerate communist non-sense. This is a disgrace to the memory of the Empire lost and an insult to those of us striving in earnest to restore what had ought to be.

13c81c No.99

>>92
The only right make-work is service in the army or navy.

2528f7 No.104

>>98
'degenerate'
'communist'
There be those /pol/ buzz words.
Sadly they don't cut it here.

13c81c No.108

>>104
>high taxes
>redistribution of wealth
>big government that enriches itself at the cost of its own national people instead of at the cost of imperial subjects and vassals
This is not how things are supposed to work. Buzzwords nothing.

2528f7 No.113

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>>108
Nope you have it wrong. The government system is half social-nobility, half free-market. The government cannot enrich itself because the government is an abstract concept- the people in government cannot enrich themselves anymore than their voters permit because >electoral system.

So yes 'high taxes' (no higher than most European countries today- less than Denmark) but guess what its not like a communist dictatorship or true monarchy because you keep 50%. Also the government is structured to be democratically meritocratic, and through this organization achieve more than a pure free market (a space colonization plan for example) while at the same time a monetary incentive remains to inspire innovation and market efficiency.

2528f7 No.114

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>>108
Also
>Preconceived notions
>Also American style limited government politics has been so successful right (not)
>Then again they do have the highest concentration of wealth so maybe your a fan?

Both the Manhattan project and the Apollo program were only made possible by government investment. The power of the US military is a testament to the power of central planning.

Britannia is not about enslaving other states. If you want a slave empire go elsewhere.

13c81c No.116

>>113
The government can enrich itself because it is responsible for expending and managing resources. The people in government can enrich themselves because an electoral system is practically shown to be no obstacle to that.
Taxes in Europe today are too high. Taxes in America and Australia are also too high.

There's no guess-work involved in the notion that it's not a communist dictatorship. It's the filth of communism dressed up to look slightly nicer because we use the words "social" (what, do you hate society or something?!) and "democracy" (democracy is freedom! everything else is of nazi!) to disguise it. But it's the same problem.

A true monarchy has low taxes and very little centralised government power. What you want is communism made more palatable to the dumb masses, and some sick mockery of cultural heritage. What we need is a true monarchy and a true empire. Not left-wing cowardly non-sense.

>>114
See? You don't want an empire at all. You want communism. Britannia is a name fit for a revived and revitalised British Empire. Go and play without sullying our good name, thank you, comrade.

13c81c No.117

>>114
And for the record, I want nothing to do with American-style anything. That's you projecting.

2528f7 No.121

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>>116
>>117
A lost cause I see totally nonsensical.

The words social and democracy are totally honest descriptions of the system of government I propose. The electoral system is extremely different from what your familiar with.

>A true monarchy has low taxes and very little centralised government power
>>117

OMG MY SIDES

The reason I chose the name BRITANNIA for this movement is out of a desire to inspire the British people to be proud of their many positive achievements. To destroy white guilt and end the 'white mans burden.' There also the fact that I'm ethnically British and believe in putting our own people and their interests first.
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13c81c No.125

>>121
You are everything that is wrong with the British nation and you are why it is dying.

d3fd52 No.129

We are fully within our abilities to have this debate without relying on sweeping labels, and judgments made upon principle rather than examination, are we not?

Whether or not this constitution could be taken to be Communist is irrelevant. This only shifts the debate towards the validity of the statement.

A much more suitable approach is addressing the actual issues, such as tax burden.

If we place ourselves as dependent upon colonies in any way, this makes the empire as a whole vulnerable. If the government's income chiefly comes from oppressed states, whose income is drained absolutely, how can we expect the states to continuously supply us with resources as well? And would it not be better to uplift the captured nations while maintaining control, that our invested efforts may yield more stock?

2528f7 No.194

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>>129
I absolutely agree!

3f8e71 No.195

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>>1

>> For the union of the UK, Ireland, Canada, US, New Zealand, Australia, and Japan.
>> Britannia

trying to resurrect a dead empire

might as well go with the Byzantine empire, the Russian empire, Austo-Hungarian or the Spanish Empire. Makes no sense to me.

The best bet is a future space empire, a technocratic empire. Earth is doomed, time to leave this rock if all goes well 30+ years from now.

2528f7 No.196

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>>195
What are we typing now?
English.
Where do we live?
The British Isles or their former colonies.

Our prime expansionary goal is the terraforming and colonization of Mars.
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13c81c No.220

>>129
It's perfectly valid to decry the constitution as a communist one because of the deliberate stifling and usurpation of economic freedoms of the citizenry and the opposition to a coherent racial-national identity. These are Marxist principles in action, unambiguously so, and it should go without saying that Marxist constitution is bad for any state, but especially for an Empire.

>>196
>not conquering Earth and exterminating our enemies
You aren't interested in Britannia at all. You are a snake.

2528f7 No.223

>>220

To be successful in politics one must be a snake ;)


586783 No.284

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>>96

For consideration:

It is true that to obtain money by trade is sometimes more profitable, were it not so hazardous; and likewise money-lending, if it were as honourable. Our ancestors held this view and embodied it in their laws, which required that the thief be mulcted double and the usurer fourfold; how much less desirable a citizen they considered the usurer than the thief, one may judge from this. And when they would praise a worthy man their praise took this form: "good husbandman, good farmer"; one so praised was thought to have received the greatest commendation. The trader I consider to be an energetic man, and one bent on making money; but, as I said above, it is a dangerous career and one subject to disaster. On the other hand, it is from the farming class that the bravest men and the sturdiest soldiers come, their calling is most highly respected, their livelihood is most assured and is looked on with the least hostility, and those who are engaged in that pursuit are least inclined to be disaffected.

According to Cato the Elder farmers made the hardiest soldiers, perhaps a plan to distribute agriculturely rich land to veterans would make a good incentive structure.


d3f35f No.293

>>284

Certainly in the past, any ascendent power would give a share of the spoils to those who provided effective and loyal service.



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