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Welcome. Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 02:57:40 22a98a No.1[Reply]

Welcome to the *BSD board.

Try to keep things civilized, conversational, organized, and most importantly, simple. We believe quality over quantity. It's encouraged to write your posts like the simplest man page you've ever read (many users are non-native English speakers.) You won't get banned for not doing these things, but you may find your threads getting deleted.

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People who are obvious 'trolls,' 'shitposters,' or 'general assholes' will be banned. We are not trigger happy Nazis, so don't be afraid to post.

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The Tor BSD Diversity Project Anonymous 08/25/15 (Tue) 00:05:07 000000 No.137 [Reply]

(cross-posted from /tech/, where it didn't get much attention at least not yet

https://8ch.net/tech/res/343957.html)

What does anon think about The Tor BSD Diversity Project?

>The Tor BSD Diversity Project (TDP) is an initiative seeking to extend the use of the BSD Unix operating systems in the Tor public anonymity network.

>There are three aspects of the TDP’s approach:

> Increase the number of Tor relays running BSDs. We envision this happening by increasing the total number of relays, not by convincing operators of relays using non-BSD operating systems to switch;

> Make the Tor Browser Bundle available under BSD operating systems using native packaging mechanisms. Our first target is OpenBSD;

> Engage the broader BSD community about the Tor anonymity network and the place that BSD Unix should occupy in the privacy community at large.

>Current TDP work includes:

> Guides for configuring and running FreeBSD and OpenBSD relays;

> The creation of OpenBSD Tor Browser Bundle ports;

> Organizing various events for engaging BSD users about Tor, including birds-of-a-feather sessions and informal meetings;

> A new addition to our work includes enlisting BSD-using entities to operate Tor relays.

https://torbsd.github.io/

The OpenBSD Tor Browser Bundle port is almost ready.

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Anonymous 11/23/15 (Mon) 18:38:48 000000 No.146

>tfw the Tor Browser is working on OpenBSD

http://mirrors.nycbug.org/pub/snapshots/packages/amd64/

Anonymous 11/01/15 (Sun) 15:15:07 c7af9a No.145 [Reply]

I know this won't get a reply, but, I'll ask anyway.

I'm looking for a BSD to install on one of my netbooks, I've been running freeBSD on my laptop for a while, but I'm not entirely sure freeBSD is the best choice for a netbook. Should I try out netBSD or openBSD?

Anonymous 10/12/15 (Mon) 04:27:08 734a5c No.144 [Reply]

Anybody here have any actual evidence to support the claims that OpenBSD is not secure?

Anyone here ever use HardenedBSD?

I have been considering installing one of those two on my laptop but cant decide which yet.

Anonymous 09/13/15 (Sun) 09:04:03 7ed7cf No.141 [Reply]

Boardbump.

Don't you die on me, /BSD/

Hey, that rhymes…

Anonymous 09/20/15 (Sun) 18:14:42 545d3f No.143

Rest in peace, /bsd/.

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Anonymous 08/05/15 (Wed) 07:49:12 b0a319 No.113 [Reply]

Post your favorite OpenBSD song!

Mine is 3.5 ( http://www.openbsd.org/songs/song35.ogg )

Anonymous 08/05/15 (Wed) 14:23:51 5c5334 No.114

>>113

How the hell did you find out about this?

Anonymous 08/05/15 (Wed) 19:59:31 b0a319 No.115

>>114

About what?

Also, link for the lazy: http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html

Anonymous 08/18/15 (Tue) 08:13:26 b0a319 No.134

No one else likes openbsd music? Can't be ;-;

Anonymous 09/13/15 (Sun) 09:05:11 5ee7be No.142

I like the Sound of Music parody, but only because my mom forced me to be in that play as a kid.

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The d is for dead Anonymous 08/20/15 (Thu) 11:05:11 23298e No.135 [Reply]

Dead board posting.

Anonymous 08/23/15 (Sun) 17:12:31 503dff No.136

rip board, at least I have BSD mailing lists.

Anonymous 09/02/15 (Wed) 22:22:53 3408c2 No.139

Anti-purge shitpost

>tfw BSD saved 8ch Anonymous 08/26/15 (Wed) 19:37:23 000000 No.138 [Reply]

It was bound to happen.

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Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 06:06:25 7a773c No.4 [Reply]

Why do you use *BSD? Why do you use the family of *BSD you use, and not another?

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Anonymous 08/09/15 (Sun) 18:16:59 1e0d7d No.120

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>>119

"Evil Maid" was a hint, oh unwise openbsd user who just proved he's a Cancer Board Owner by editing someone else's post.

"Security is a process, not a product" is the wisdom that's been the mantra of System Administrators since the 1980s. From that 'axiom' you get process-related security like 'not giving root to anyone who absolutely doesn't need it even if they're super-fucking trustworthy.

Anyone with half a brain and has been Computa for more than 3 months will witness how all the massive security failures of computer systems are 90% because an idiot believed SOFTWARE IS MAGIC.

So… how's it like having an OpenBSD machine that now remote rootable by using DRAM hammering?

Anonymous 08/10/15 (Mon) 12:47:04 714ed6 No.123

>>120

What's it like to assume everyone else is an idiot and no one can get on your level?

Anonymous 08/10/15 (Mon) 14:44:14 66f984 No.124

>>120

OpenBSD never claimed to protect you from your own stupidity, they have the same mantra, they simply tout a secure by default system.

Why is does every OpenBSD rant start with arguments OpenBSD has never made?

Anonymous 08/17/15 (Mon) 02:40:42 66f984 No.132

I use OpenBSD for general use on my laptop.

I use FreeBSD variants for work, namely FreeNAS and PFSense.

OpenBSD because laptop support is fantastic and is the closest to my ideal OS while still being workable.

FreeNAS because I maintain backups as an MSP and my boss wants to be able to do basic maintenance, even be able to follow a document on basic setup.

PFSense for the same reasons, but they're running as a firewall, they do web filtering, serve as a VPN and AV scanning.

Ideally I'd just use OpenBSD for the firewalls plus FreeBSD for storage.

I might try out DragonflyBSD for storage but I'd want to be better at programming before I try.

Anonymous 08/18/15 (Tue) 08:11:52 714ed6 No.133

>>132

Cool story, bro.

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Anonymous 08/01/15 (Sat) 09:19:09 f89e5f No.34 [Reply]

BattlestationSD

My computer is hold enough to drink… (Well…)

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Anonymous 08/01/15 (Sat) 15:21:49 f89e5f No.71

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>>38

NetBSD 4 lyfe

Currently using a HD6450– video playback now works great (xv overlays, DRM, et.al.), however there's a caching issue that's made a few X programs using XPutImage crawl, which the HD5450 card didn't do.

Anonymous 08/01/15 (Sat) 18:28:18 bed413 No.79

>>71

Believe it or not, I've never actually tried NetBSD. Being the admin of /bsd/, and seeing as I've tried RetroBSD, it's time. I'll download it.

I think OpenBSD>FreeBSD, so at the least I'm sure I'll like it more than FreeBSD.

It also severely pissed me off that Volcanic Islands GPUs are not supported on FreeBSD. NetBSD is pretty portable, so hopefully the graphics are, too.

Anonymous 08/14/15 (Fri) 16:35:13 dcc324 No.128

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I have an old laptop, HP zd800 running OpenBSD flawlessly, the hibernation is really impressive.

I'm still a scrub but learning on actual hardware and committing to it really is improving my skills.

>>79

NetBSD in its strive for platform dominance generally has esoteric graphics drivers.

The userland is pretty barebones.

Anonymous 08/15/15 (Sat) 06:13:45 9542cc No.130

>>128

How did you keep the monitor attached?

Anonymous 08/17/15 (Mon) 02:28:12 dcc324 No.131

>>130

W-what do you mean anon? It's just a few big metal bolts.

This thing is hulky.

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Filesystem Thread Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 19:24:59 da9c6e No.5 [Reply]

Filesystem Thread

This thread discusses filesystems, this post specifically the ZFS filesystem. ZFS is supported by FreeBSD.

Note: If you have something against ZFS, you might like HAMMER. That is the default fs in DragonflyBSD.

Introduction to ZFS
ZFS was designed by Sun Microsystems as a need for databases. Databases were growing too large for filesystems of the time, and the filesystems weren't matching up to the technology of the time. Performance and data was suffering because of the lack of a 'future' filesystem.

ZFS is now owned by the Oracle Corporation, comparable to a trademark. The OpenZFS project aims to open-source the ZFS filesystem. OpenZFS is released under the CDDL license, and therefore is technically incompatible with the GPL; similar to how Firefox is not used on Debian, instead Iceweasel is used.

ZFS Features
ZFS has a number of features which make it better for servers (and even desktops) over traditional filesystems like UFS, NTFS, or ext*.

1. Data Integrity
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!CutietS8/A 06/23/15 (Tue) 04:47:52 a3c6fc No.24

Very interesting, thanks!

Anonymous 08/02/15 (Sun) 16:53:21 7be38a No.96

>>19

From the mouth of one of the zfs founders:

There's nothing special about ZFS that requires/encourages the use of ECC RAM more so than any other filesystem. If you use UFS, EXT, NTFS, btrfs, etc without ECC RAM, you are just as much at risk as if you used ZFS without ECC RAM. Actually, ZFS can mitigate this risk to some degree if you enable the unsupported ZFS_DEBUG_MODIFY flag (zfs_flags=0x10). This will checksum the data while at rest in memory, and verify it before writing to disk, thus reducing the window of vulnerability from a memory error.

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1235679&p=26303271#p26303271

Anonymous 08/02/15 (Sun) 19:29:33 9d566a No.100

>>96

Very nice information Anon. I did not know about the ZFS_DEBUG_MODIFY flag. I will have to keep that in mind!

Anonymous 08/14/15 (Fri) 15:57:25 7be38a No.127

That L2ARC, seems like the best for deduplication, am I wrong?

I keep on wanting to shill for HAMMERFS but deduplication plus zfs scrub for bitrot really makes me think ZFS is king.

Anonymous 08/15/15 (Sat) 06:11:55 2a00c5 No.129

>>127

ZFS doesn't do encryption

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Virtual Machines Anonymous 08/09/15 (Sun) 22:22:11 fdfbf5 No.121 [Reply]

I run FreeBSD on my laptop and I need to know any good virtual machines to use on said laptop. Any ideas?

If you use the source code of a program licensed under BSD and don't give credit, can the person sue you?

Anonymous 08/10/15 (Mon) 12:44:28 5db280 No.122

Use: no

Distribute: yes

Also, bhyve.

Anonymous 08/10/15 (Mon) 14:46:17 d25e15 No.125

Qemu., vbox for slow but easy shit.

Xen, bhyve for performance but harder setups.

Anonymous 08/10/15 (Mon) 17:51:54 fdfbf5 No.126

>>125

Got virtualbox working, thanks.

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RetroBSD Anonymous 08/01/15 (Sat) 08:39:08 52b631 No.27 [Reply]

Admin here,

I went ahead and made a 'tutorial' for RetroBSD. Hopefully this will get more people interested in true old school Unix/BSD.

It runs on a PIC32 board. This is a microcontroller that can run a Unix/BSD OS, so it puts it somewhere between a Arduino and a RPi for the less tech-literate.

Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HECwESZZMkw

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Anonymous 08/04/15 (Tue) 15:24:18 edf707 No.107

>>106

>mobile laptop

>requires serial line

uh-huh

Anonymous 08/04/15 (Tue) 17:21:24 951208 No.108

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>>106

My biggest contribution to date was the "GLASS_10x25" font in NetBSD…

https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2015/01/19/msg015669.html

Anonymous 08/04/15 (Tue) 17:47:20 52b631 No.109

>>105

Sadly, they don't. because of the network stack in 4.4BSD, you need to have more RAM (or something like that.)

2.11BSD = 128KB RAM

4.4BSD = 512KB RAM

There is a list of supported boards here:

https://github.com/sergev/LiteBSD/wiki

Ethernet is supported, I have no clue about the WiFire. Look at retrobsd.org. I would look into it IF I had the money.

>>106

I was thinking of starting with a LCD and a PS/2 keyboard. A very low power display would be nice, seeing as the entire dev board probably doesn't use more than 500mW (guessing. Too lazy to break out the multimeter.)

Multiple screens would be amazing, too. You could use one for coding/working and the other for man – that's basically what I do now when I code.

>>107

There are plenty of ways around that, but it would probably not be as pseudovintage, if that makes any sense.

>>108

>making /bsd/ admin look like a scrub

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Anonymous 08/04/15 (Tue) 21:57:16 52b631 No.111

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as BSD, is in fact, BSD/Unix, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Unix plus BSD. BSD is not an operating system onto itself, but rather another paid component of a fully functioning Unix system made useful by the BSD libraries, utilities, and vital system components compromising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the BSD system everyday, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of BSD which is widely used today is often called "Unix," and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the BSD system, developed by Berkeley University. There really is a Unix, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Unix is the base OS: the software that manages computer hardware and software resources. Unix is an essential part of BSD, but useless by itself; it does not have a network stack such as the one in 4.4BSD. Unix is normally used in combination with BSD: the whole system is basically Unix with BSD added, or BSD/Unix. All of the so-called "BSD" distributions are really distributions of BSD/Unix.

Anonymous 08/07/15 (Fri) 20:26:58 edf707 No.118

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>>111

Binary trips for truth

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OpenBSD for Starters Anonymous 04/05/15 (Sun) 20:19:00 5c1f44 No.7 [Reply]

OpenBSD for Starters (incomplete)

This thread is for people new to OpenBSD. This post will provide a general guide on how to get started using OpenBSD.

This guide assumes that you have some experience using other Unix-like operating systems.

Introduction
OpenBSD is a minimalistic security-based operating system which was forked from NetBSD in 1995.

It is used equally in desktops and servers. The desktop installation contains X and a very simple window manager, and is based on the server.

OpenBSD has a reputation for being rather ferocious about security and just plain 'doing things right.' Amongst some, it has a reputation for being hard to use for beginners due to lack of 'easily parsed' documentation.

Installation
Installation is simple. As of this writing, the latest installation ISO for x86_64 is here:
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Anonymous 08/04/15 (Tue) 20:18:03 566e8d No.110

Is the admin the only OpenBSD loyalist?

:'(

Anonymous 08/05/15 (Wed) 01:46:27 b7c8c6 No.112

>>110

'Why is it called OpenBSD instead of SecureBSD??'

Because for the first ~5 years of the project, it was Theo's personal rowrowfightdapowa sperg over the NetBSD coreteam's inability to get the whole source tree public because of 4.4BSD-Encumbered. The security thing came in when they stumbled across how effective it was at getting attention on clickbait sites like Slashdot.

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Anonymous 08/01/15 (Sat) 15:10:19 8d47e5 No.70 [Reply]

Eeek.

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Anonymous 08/01/15 (Sat) 20:01:00 78342b No.90

>>86

>My university still has some Data General Mininovas

Whoa. Those are old.

My mother was a Sysadmin of a Mininova back in ~1981-3.. The operating system was written in BASIC, and system updates were downloaded via a 300bps modem from Melbourne (i.e: right across the country) and took about 1-2 hours in the STD/OTC era (i.e: fucking expensive).

Anonymous 08/01/15 (Sat) 20:05:15 78342b No.91

>>86

SVR2 was the plain old vanilla AT&T Unix that was good for C programming and the like, but had almost no 'proper' networking.

Anonymous 08/02/15 (Sun) 01:58:09 241ef5 No.92

>>90

>Whoa. Those are old.

Yes. The manual I jacked smells like it's old. Each page smells like a mixture of old pulp and really old cigarettes. (Still in good condition.)

>>91

I see. I wonder what the unproper networking it had was, then?

Anonymous 08/02/15 (Sun) 15:15:38 0b9e76 No.95

>>92

> I wonder what the unproper networking it had was, then?

SVR3 backports of STREAMS, TLI, etc– stuff you've never heard of because the 'stacks' more often than not where for things like ATM networks. Serial adhoc connect UUCP was as really as good as it got– and being a Usenet site on R2 required a vendor-well-supported system, which was about Xenix as the only option.

Anonymous 08/02/15 (Sun) 19:36:27 241ef5 No.102

>>95

I'm surprised they even had UUCP. I should have known it's origins. Thanks for the info, Anon.

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