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>>80

Think about how much 4 Grand was in 1985 dollars…

Rod Pike has a regular whinge on about how BSD "invented open source!!!1111" …but the pre-GNU idea of open source was exactly this kind of shit– "Wanna buy some Free UNIX?? Only $10,000!"

>>80

SysV hiss

>>83

My university still has some Data General Mininovas. I might have to shoot some emails and see if I could get a bunch of college kids together and get them working again.

People have actually stolen stuff in the open spaces on the machines. Every dumbfuck overlooked one thing though: the dusty manual shoved waaayy in the back.

Needless to say, that manual is sitting in my room. I also haven't found a PDF copy of it online. It has FULL circuit schematics for things like the ALU and such. I didn't look much though.

>>84

True, USD was certainly worth more back then.

You've got to wonder how much of that machine's cost was hardware and software licensing.

>>85

I haven't looked into the differences between the Sys versions. What's your bias? Or just meh?

>>87

Semi-popular but cheaper brand of minicomputers during the 70's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_General_Nova

>>86

>My university still has some Data General Mininovas

Whoa. Those are old.

My mother was a Sysadmin of a Mininova back in ~1981-3.. The operating system was written in BASIC, and system updates were downloaded via a 300bps modem from Melbourne (i.e: right across the country) and took about 1-2 hours in the STD/OTC era (i.e: fucking expensive).

>>86

SVR2 was the plain old vanilla AT&T Unix that was good for C programming and the like, but had almost no 'proper' networking.

>>90

>Whoa. Those are old.

Yes. The manual I jacked smells like it's old. Each page smells like a mixture of old pulp and really old cigarettes. (Still in good condition.)

>>91

I see. I wonder what the unproper networking it had was, then?

>>92

> I wonder what the unproper networking it had was, then?

SVR3 backports of STREAMS, TLI, etc– stuff you've never heard of because the 'stacks' more often than not where for things like ATM networks. Serial adhoc connect UUCP was as really as good as it got– and being a Usenet site on R2 required a vendor-well-supported system, which was about Xenix as the only option.

>>95

I'm surprised they even had UUCP. I should have known it's origins. Thanks for the info, Anon.