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0ff7c9  No.83[Reply]

This board is for Catholics and those churches in full communion with the Holy Roman Church. For more general Christian discussion, feel free to head over to >>>/christian/

The rules of the board are as follows:

1] Obey the global rule.

2] This board is absolutely safe for work.

3] You are expected to be civil. Trolls will be banned.

4] There will be no slander of the Pope or the Saints.

5] Non-Catholics are welcome to ask civil questions.

6] No politics except as pertains to the Church.

7] Sedevacantists, including SSPX, should go to >>>/christian/

Peace be with you and God bless.

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552ac8  No.143

There is a problem creating new threads right now. I'm sorry to have missed today's Saint. I have addressed the problem on /sudo/.




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6a5b1f  No.329[Reply]

I was raised "Catholic" very poorly until about the age of 11. Since then, i lived pretty much like an agnostic. Now i'm 16. Five days ago, i decided to start to join the church again. I'm trying to focus on discernment as well. I'm not sure if i will go to conformation class or RCIA at my age, and at my parish. What are some recommendations for reading and in general for someone in my situation?

f58ae0  No.330

https://www.kofc.org/un/en/cis/booklets.html#/hart/1/20

Read all of those! You can also take the free CIS courses.


d6cb45  No.332

Welcome home




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290cb8  No.327[Reply]

What is the view of this man in the Catholic community.

Is he considered an extremist? orthodox?

790e85  No.328

>>327

Catholic in Name Only. He's basically a sedevacantist in disguise. Catholics should ignore and/or laugh at him, especially to his face.


155009  No.331

>>328

>He's basically a sedevacantist

really, why do you say that?




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4fdfbd  No.318[Reply]

Hey there! I’m a recent revert to Catholicism back from atheism and I’ve been encountering Orthodox online who make the general claims about the Papacy, how it’s a primacy of honor or whatever. That doesn’t really concern me, however I can’t seem to find many church fathers who explicitly support the primacy of Rome over the other sees/bishops. Could someone guide me to some good resources to disprove many of their claims not just of that but of others as well. Thanks!

bbafe0  No.322

>>318

I havn't read extensively on the topic except for Siecienski's 'Papacy and the Orthodox' which isn't a polemical work, neither does it sway in favour of either side so I can't really suggest anything, otherwise here is a florilegium of some quotes that explicitly support the supremacy and universal jurisdiction of the roman see:


bbafe0  No.325

St. Theodore Abu Qurrah (750-825):

>You should understand that the head of the Apostles was St. Peter, to whom Christ said, ‘You are the rock; and on this rock I shall build my church, and the gates of hell will not overcome it.’ After his resurrection, he also said to him three times, while on the shore of the sea of Tiberius, ‘Simon, do you love me? Feed my lambs, rams and ewes.’ In another passage, he said to him, ‘Simon, Satan will ask to sift you like wheat, and I prayed that you not lose your faith; but you, at that time, have compassion on your brethren and strengthen them.’ Do you not see that St. Peter is the foundation of the church, selected to shepherd it, that those who believe in his faith will never lose their faith, and that he was ordered to have compassion on his brethren and to strengthen them? As for Christ’s words, ‘I have prayed for you, that you not lose your faith; but you, have compassion on your brethren, at that time, and strengthen them’, we do not think that he meant St. Peter himself. Rather, he meant nothing more than the holders of the seat of St. Peter, that is, Rome. Just as when he said to the apostles, ‘I am with you always, until the end of the age’, he did not mean just the apostles themselves, but also those who would be in charge of their seats and their flocks; in the same way, when he spoke his last words to St. Peter, ‘Have compassion, at that time, and strengthen your brethren; and your faith will not be lost’, he meant by this nothing other than the holders of his seat.

>Yet another indication of this is the fact that among the apostles it was St. Peter alone who lost his faith and denied Christ, which Christ may have allowed to happen to Peter so as to teach us that it was not Peter that he meant by these words. Moreover, we know of no apostle who fell and needed St. Peter to strengthen him. If someone says that Christ meant by these words only St. Peter himself, this person causes the church to lack someone to strengthen it after the death of St. Peter. How could this happen, especially when we see all the sifting of the church that came from Satan after the apostles’ death? All of this indicates that Christ did not mean them by these words. Indeed, everyone knows that the heretics attacked the church only after the death of the apostles – Paul of Samosata, Arius, MacedoniPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


bbafe0  No.326

St. Theodore the Studite (759-826):

>for it is the chief Church, since Peter, who held the first place (was its bishop), to whom was said, ‘Thou art Peter and upon this Rock I will build My Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. (Ep. 11.86; PG 99.1332 B)

>We are established securely on that See of which Christ said, ‘Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it (Ep II.1; PG 99, 1117B)

>We venerate images….not because we are assured that we are right by the second holy synod of Nicaea or by that which earlier decided divinely, but from the very coming of our lord and God in writing and without writing we have been made firm and rest securely upon that [Roman] See to which Christ say – you are Peter , and upon this rock I will build my church , and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it” (PG 99, 1117)

St. John Maron (628-707):

>And as a Patriarch has authority over his subjects, the Roman (Pontiff) has authority over all Patriarchs, in the same manner as Peter had it over all chiefs of Christianity, and over all Churches; for he is the successor of Christ, placed over His Church, over His flock, over all peoples. If any one refuses to observe these (statutes), let him be anathema.

The Tradition of the Syriac Church of Antioch - Cyril Benham Benni (page 96)

St. Pope Gelasius – 492 AD:

>Yet we do not hesitate to mention that which is known to the universal Church, namely that, as the see of blessed Peter the Apostle has the right to loose what has been bound by the judgments of any bishops whatsoever, and since it has jurisdiction over every church, so that no one may pass judgment on its verdict, the canons providing that an appeal should lie to it from any part of the world, no one is permitted to appeal against its judgment. (Coll. Avell.,95,& 27,ed.cit.,p.378)




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3a642e  No.317[Reply]

The Bible pays Joseph the highest compliment: he was a “just” man. The quality meant a lot more than faithfulness in paying debts.

When the Bible speaks of God “justifying” someone, it means that God, the all-holy or “righteous” one, so transforms a person that the individual shares somehow in God’s own holiness, and hence it is really “right” for God to love him or her. In other words, God is not playing games, acting as if we were lovable when we are not.

By saying Joseph was “just,” the Bible means that he was one who was completely open to all that God wanted to do for him. He became holy by opening himself totally to God.

The rest we can easily surmise. Think of the kind of love with which he wooed and won Mary, and the depth of the love they shared during their marriage.

It is no contradiction of Joseph’s manly holiness that he decided to divorce Mary when she was found to be with child. The important words of the Bible are that he planned to do this “quietly” because he was “a righteous man, yet unwilling to expose her to shame” (Matthew 1:19).

The just man was simply, joyfully, wholeheartedly obedient to God—in marrying Mary, in naming Jesus, in shepherding the precious pair to Egypt, in bringing them to Nazareth, in the undetermined number of years of quiet faith and courage.



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e8ed15  No.316[Reply]

Clement might be called the second founder of the Redemptorists, as it was he who carried the congregation of Saint Alphonsus Liguori to the people north of the Alps.

John, the name given him at Baptism, was born in Moravia into a poor family, the ninth of 12 children. Although he longed to be a priest, there was no money for studies, and he was apprenticed to a baker. But God guided the young man’s fortunes. He found work in the bakery of a monastery where he was allowed to attend classes in its Latin school. After the abbot there died, John tried the life of a hermit, but when Emperor Joseph II abolished hermitages, John again returned to Vienna and to baking.

One day after serving Mass at the Cathedral of St. Stephen, he called a carriage for two ladies waiting there in the rain. In their conversation they learned that he could not pursue his priestly studies because of a lack of funds. They generously offered to support both John and his friend Thaddeus, in their seminary studies. The two went to Rome, where they were drawn to Saint Alphonsus’ vision of religious life and to the Redemptorists. The two young men were ordained together in 1785.

Newly professed at age 34, Clement Mary, as he was now called, and Thaddeus were sent back to Vienna. But the religious difficulties there caused them to leave and continue north to Warsaw, Poland. There they encountered numerous German-speaking Catholics who had been left priestless by the suppression of the Jesuits. At first they had to live in great poverty and preach outdoor sermons. Eventually they were given the church of St. Benno, and for the next nine years they preached five sermons a day, two in German and three in Polish, converting many to the faith. They were active in social work among the poor, founding an orphanage and then a school for boys.

Drawing candidates to the congregation, they were able to send missionaries to Poland, Germany, and Switzerland. All of these foundations eventually had to be abandoned because of the political and religious tensions of the times. After 20 years of difficult work, Clement Mary himself was imprisoned and expelled from the country. Only after another arrest was he able to reach Vienna, where he wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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e3efe6  No.315[Reply]

For his eyes are upon the ways of a man, and he sees all his steps.

- Job 34:21

Reflection

Your eyes, O Lord, have a true view of people. This is what they really are - and nothing more.

- St. Francis de Sales

Prayer

All-knowing Lord, let me realize that my real self is only what I am in Your eyes. Give me a true picture of that self and inspire me to become better day by day.



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dcc5a2  No.314[Reply]

Born near Meux, France, Louise lost her mother when she was still a child, her beloved father when she was but 15. Her desire to become a nun was discouraged by her confessor, and a marriage was arranged. One son was born of this union. But Louise soon found herself nursing her beloved husband through a long illness that finally led to his death.

Louise was fortunate to have a wise and sympathetic counselor, Francis de Sales, and then his friend, the bishop of Belley, France. Both of these men were available to her only periodically. But from an interior illumination she understood that she was to undertake a great work under the guidance of another person she had not yet met. This was the holy priest Monsieur Vincent, later to be known as Saint Vincent de Paul.

At first, he was reluctant to be her confessor, busy as he was with his “Confraternities of Charity.” Members were aristocratic ladies of charity who were helping him nurse the poor and look after neglected children, a real need of the day. But the ladies were busy with many of their own concerns and duties. His work needed many more helpers, especially ones who were peasants themselves and therefore, close to the poor and able to win their hearts. He also needed someone who could teach them and organize them.

Only over a long period of time, as Vincent de Paul became more acquainted with Louise, did he come to realize that she was the answer to his prayers. She was intelligent, self-effacing, and had physical strength and endurance that belied her continuing feeble health. The missions he sent her on eventually led to four simple young women joining her. Her rented home in Paris became the training center for those accepted for the service of the sick and poor. Growth was rapid and soon there was the need for a so-called “rule of life,” which Louise herself, under the guidance of Vincent, drew up for the Daughters of Charity of St. Vincent de Paul.

Monsieur Vincent had always been slow and prudent in his dealings with Louise and the new group. He said that he had never had any idea of starting a new community, that it was God who did everything. “Your convent,” he said, “will be the house of the sick; your cell, a hired room; your cPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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7c8248  No.313[Reply]

All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness

- 2 Timothy 3:16

Reflection

All Christians must refer always and everywhere to Scripture for all their choices, becoming like children before it. They should seek in it the most effective remedy against all their weaknesses and not dare take a step without being illumined by the divine rays of those words.

- St. Pope John Paul II

Prayer

God of wisdom, move me to have recourse constantly in Your words in Scripture. Let me find light, strength, and consolation in this sacred Book that was inspired by You.



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d9e053  No.312[Reply]

We have an early, almost unembellished account of the martyrdom of Saint Maximilian in modern-day Algeria.

Brought before the proconsul Dion, Maximilian refused enlistment in the Roman army saying, “I cannot serve, I cannot do evil. I am a Christian.”

Dion replied: “You must serve or die.”

Maximilian: “I will never serve. You can cut off my head, but I will not be a soldier of this world, for I am a soldier of Christ. My army is the army of God, and I cannot fight for this world. I tell you I am a Christian.”

Dion: “There are Christian soldiers serving our rulers Diocletian and Maximian, Constantius and Galerius.”

Maximilian: “That is their business. I also am a Christian, and I cannot serve.”

Dion: “But what harm do soldiers do?”

Maximilian: “You know well enough.”

Dion: “If you will not do your service I shall condemn you to death for contempt of the army.”

Maximilian: “I shall not die. If I go from this earth, my soul will live with Christ my Lord.”

Maximilian was 21 years old when he gladly offered his life to God. His father went home from the execution site joyful, thanking God that he had been able to offer heaven such a gift.



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b03a3b  No.311[Reply]

Behold, now is the acceptable time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

- 2 Corinthians 6:2

Reflection

You no longer have the time that is past. Nor are you sure of the time that is to come. Hence, all you do have is this present point in time and nothing more.

- St. Catherine of Siena

Prayer

Timeless Lord, teach me to be grateful for every moment of time that You allot to me. Grant that I may always make the best use of my time.



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11f902  No.305[Reply]

John Ogilvie’s noble Scottish family was partly Catholic and partly Presbyterian. His father raised him as a Calvinist, sending him to the continent to be educated. There, John became interested in the popular debates going on between Catholic and Calvinist scholars. Confused by the arguments of Catholic scholars whom he sought out, he turned to Scripture. Two texts particularly struck him: “God wills all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth,” and “Come to me all you who are weary and find life burdensome, and I will refresh you.”

Slowly, John came to see that the Catholic Church could embrace all kinds of people. Among these, he noted, were many martyrs. He decided to become Catholic and was received into the Church at Louvain, Belgium, in 1596 at the age of 17.

John continued his studies, first with the Benedictines, then as a student at the Jesuit College at Olmutz. He joined the Jesuits and for the next 10 years underwent their rigorous intellectual and spiritual training. At his ordination to the priesthood in France in 1610, John met two Jesuits who had just returned from Scotland after suffering arrest and imprisonment. They saw little hope for any successful work there in view of the tightening of the penal laws. But a fire had been lit within John. For the next two and a half years he pleaded to be placed there as a missionary.

Sent by his superiors, he secretly entered Scotland posing as a horse trader or a soldier returning from the wars in Europe. Unable to do significant work among the relatively few Catholics in Scotland, John made his way back to Paris to consult his superiors. Rebuked for having left his assignment in Scotland, he was sent back. He warmed to the task before him and had some success in making converts and in secretly serving Scottish Catholics. But he was soon betrayed, arrested, and brought before the court.

His trial dragged on until he had been without food for 26 hours. He was imprisoned and deprived of sleep. For eight days and nights he was dragged around, prodded with sharp sticks, his hair pulled out. Still, he refused to reveal the names of Catholics or to acknowledge the jurisdiction of the king in spiritual affairs. He underwent a Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

c539e6  No.310

I always wonder if I would have the courage to lay down my life in the name of Lord Jesus Christ. A part of me wants to live a quiet, boring life but at the same time I feel like I could help combat the spiritual degeneracy of this world. What should I do about this?




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f205b2  No.309[Reply]

The next time you recite the Nicene Creed at Mass, think of today’s saint. For it was Leander of Seville who, as bishop, introduced the practice in the sixth century. He saw it as a way to help reinforce the faith of his people and as an antidote against the heresy of Arianism, which denied the divinity of Christ. By the end of his life, Leander had helped Christianity flourish in Spain at a time of political and religious upheaval.

Leander’s own family was heavily influenced by Arianism, but he himself grew up to be a fervent Christian. He entered a monastery as a young man and spent three years in prayer and study. At the end of that tranquil period he was made a bishop. For the rest of his life he worked strenuously to fight against heresy. The death of the anti-Christian king in 586 helped Leander’s cause. He and the new king worked hand in hand to restore orthodoxy and a renewed sense of morality. Leander succeeded in persuading many Arian bishops to change their loyalties.

Leander died around 600. In Spain, he is honored as a Doctor of the Church.



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d804d1  No.308[Reply]

And God is able to provide you with every blessing in abundance, so that you may always have enough of everything and may provide in abundance for every good work.

- 2 Corinthians 9:8

Reflection

God rewards all our good works in His own way. This way invariably provides us with an opportunity to accomplish even better works.

- St. Theresa of Avila

Prayer

All-provident Lord, help me never to squander Your grace. Let me continually accomplish the good works that You both envision for me and assist me to do.



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549072  No.307[Reply]

Angela served Christ and Christ’s little ones with all her strength.

Born in Siepraw, near Kraków, Poland, she was the 11th child of Bartlomiej and Ewa Salawa. In 1897, she moved to Kraków where her older sister Therese lived. Angela immediately began to gather together and instruct young women domestic workers. During World War I, she helped prisoners of war without regard for their nationality or religion. The writings of Teresa of Avila and John of the Cross were a great comfort to her.

Angela gave great service in caring for soldiers wounded in World War I. After 1918, her health did not permit her to exercise her customary apostolate. Addressing herself to Christ, she wrote in her diary, “I want you to be adored as much as you were destroyed.” In another place, she wrote, “Lord, I live by your will. I shall die when you desire; save me because you can.”

At her 1991 beatification in Kraków, Pope John Paul II said: “It is in this city that she worked, that she suffered and that her holiness came to maturity. While connected to the spirituality of Saint Francis, she showed an extraordinary responsiveness to the action of the Holy Spirit” (L’Osservatore Romano, volume 34, number 4, 1991).



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