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 No.1340

What is Islam theologically, relating to Christianity? I have heard it said that it is an Arian heresy.

What is the best refutation of the claims of Islam about Christ (eg. he was not crucified and is not the son)?

What is the best way to seek to convert Muslims?

 No.1347

bump to keep it on the top until OoLF or some other poster answers


 No.1356

>>1340

>What is Islam theologically, relating to Christianity? I have heard it said that it is an Arian heresy.

It's plain heathenry. But I'll admitt that there are similarities to arianism. To say it clear muslim Jesus (Isa) is a made up figure by Mohammed and NOT the Christian Jesus that's the Lord.

>What is the best refutation of the claims of Islam about Christ (eg. he was not crucified and is not the son)?

The only source for that is the Qur'an itself which is suspicious enough

So it should be enough to debunk the Qur'an which's one of the most silly books ever save the book of mormon I guess

>What is the best way to seek to convert Muslims?

Never tried but I guess debunking the Qur'an will lead their religion to implode, so that would be my strategy but it depends on the individual muslim you face I guess


 No.1357

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cont

The Qur’an

The Qur’an claims that it was given to mankind by their god. High Arabic that was spoken by Muhammed happens to be the language of god which is older as time itself. That doesn’t explain how it’s possible for it to have linguistic ancestors but hey stw! .

Next it claims that Islam is the one true religion of Abraham (Isa) which is most certainly Judaism in fact. They make a lot of these kind of claims regarding the prophets that are not verifiable and only amateur copies of the OT or Muhammed failed understanding of the NT. Which is also why Islam is most related to modern rabbinical “Judaism” (jewry).

There is however no salvation in Islam /as is none in Judaism) since Muhammed didn’t get the religion rly. Also whenever the bible is cited it is deformed or even made up as a whole.

Then the whole form of the Qur’an – it’s ordered by length and not by age is silly. Also newer verses substitute older verses if there are differences which implies that god errs since it’s god’s infallible word supposedly.

Then Muhammed is the ideal man according to it. Which is quite silly since he was a crazed warlord pedophile that butchered his opponents and promoted paganism (worshipping a stone namely) to gather followers.

The Qur’an also sets a high claim on it’s followers to regard and follow all of its laws to gain heaven.

One could think that this means that Muhammed did this? Nope. Whenever he saw it fit he just made up a rule that it’s an exception when he does a sin and so it was justified. i.e. when attacking your opponent you shall not destroy an oasis/palms, but he did exactly that etcpp

I like the channel of vid related. Beside the intro vid which you should watch too imo, it's very moving it is mainly dedicated to debunking Islam.


 No.1358

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I'll post some of the vids on the topic that get the point across imo


 No.1359

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on Jesus


 No.1360

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Aaaand our god is not the Islamic god.

That's all folks. If I find a good one I still might post it later.


 No.3220

Bump for interesting topic


 No.3279

>>1360

The catechism says that the Muslim God is the same God as that of Christians.


 No.3282

>>3279

Where?

Not here if you meant it:

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

>these profess to hold the faith of Abraham,

>profess to


 No.3283

>>3279

No, Muslims reject the Trinity so this is impossible


 No.3284

The one thing that could bother one is the finite article before one god. But even so it is not clear and is not there at all in the original version.

The Latin version is the one to go and since Latin has no finite articles it literally just says "together with us they adore one…" which does not imply it's the same.

One of the reasons why Latin is the language of the Church and in doubt it is latin we go after. Everything else only causes disorder.

841 Relationes Ecclesiae cum musulmanis. « Propositum salutis et eos amplectitur, qui Creatorem agnoscunt, inter quos imprimis musulmanos, qui fidem Abrahae se tenere profitentes, nobiscum Deum adorant unicum, misericordem, homines die novissimo iudicaturum ».

>nobiscum Deum adorant unicum, misericordem

>nobiscum Deum

>nulla "nobiscum illum Deum"


 No.3286

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>>3284

This post is pretty based.


 No.3309

>>1357

>Which is quite silly since he was a crazed warlord pedophile that butchered his opponents and promoted paganism (worshipping a stone namely) to gather followers.

here we go again..


 No.3315

>>3309

I always wondered whether "Moon Goddess Allah" deserved its own thread or not. Been curious about that theory/meme for a minute.


 No.3317

>>3315

>moon godess

>allah

sure let's believe all internet writings


 No.3318

>>3309

Seems fine to me.




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