>>6277
>But why? Why is there something when there could as well be nothing?
I did cover that though, and the "why?" which is the ultimate question, is again, too much for the mortal mind to comprehend or understand.
Or I may yet discover something a little closer to the answer,probably even further rooted in quantum phsyics and such, but I've yet to learn this yet.
>This is possible. But what indicates that it actually is the truth?
You caught me, this is another thing I do not yet know
>One of the major reasons for me becoming religious was that non-religious morals does not make sense in the end.
>Why do you hold yourself to any principles if you could as well abstain from doing so?
And interesting question indeed. I suppose the morals I hold are all there to make my life better and the lives of those around me better, even the ones that may seem tough at times. I know all my morals are there to make me a better human being, so I stick with them very passionately. This is arguably the benefit of non-religious morals, if you realize these morals no longer serve you, and make you a better person, they are not worth keeping, and you can add morals that are developed and learned that will continue to make you a better person. This requires a great deal of honesty with oneself, and could easily be abused by someone simply making up their own morals as they go.
I stick to morals such as keeping a strong work ethic, keeping promises and commitments I have made, being loyal to friends who have been there for me, as well as helping others who are in need. There is nothing outside me holding me to these morals, only my own will wanting to be a better person by following them.
Much of this is also based on quotes of the Buddah.
"Don't blindly believe what I say. Don't believe me because others convince you of my words.
Don't believe anything you see, read, or hear from others, whether of authority, religious teachers or texts."
"Don't rely on logic alone, nor speculation. Don't infer or be deceived by appearances."
"Do not give up your authority and follow blindly the will of others. This way will lead to only delusion."
"Find out for yourself what is truth, what is real. Discover that there are virtuous things and there are non-virtuous things. Once you have discovered for yourself give up the bad and embrace the good."
>Many people feel lost in modern world, and because secularism has cut them off of religion they need to fill this hole in their lives.
>Humans do actually have beside physical and emotinal needs also spiritual needs.
I agree in this completely, this is why atheist who tell everyone they should abandon religion, annoy me, this is very bad advice.
>"Don't blindly believe what I say. Don't believe me because others convince you of my words.
Don't believe anything you see, read, or hear from others, whether of authority, religious teachers or texts."
"Don't rely on logic alone, nor speculation. Don't infer or be deceived by appearances."
"Do not give up your authority and follow blindly the will of others. This way will lead to only delusion."
"Find out for yourself what is truth, what is real. Discover that there are virtuous things and there are non-virtuous things. Once you have discovered for yourself give up the bad and embrace the good."
This for a great many people, is helpful, sometimes it is good to have an outside source provide morals, sometimes I am envious of this infact, as I am left weighing the pros and cons of my own morals myself.
Though to be fair, the feeling of many non christians, is that Christianity does have Christians trying to change the people around them, many spend more time trying to convince others of their beliefs than worrying about their own. Not always the case, and personally I think this is them straying off their own Christian path when they try to force others into it.
There are still some holes and gaps in my beliefs, and many works I need to read that inspire them, the works of Jung, amongst many other books, and I do have one teacher who I learn from, a practicing Buddhist funly enough, but also a former Protestant alter boy and aspiring Priest
>>6283
On another board I frequent, we have an off topic general thread, it's hands down the fastest on the board, and often board relevant topics are discussed there as well but not things big enough for their own thread.
I did just think of an interesting topic for a thread if it hasn't been made as well though "How did you find your faith?"