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 No.2553

Well since this board is pretty active now, I can aswell repost my post from currently dead (created by /int/, as more menetic-oriented) board >>/goodchristian/846

>>2538 Here I have mentioned:

>Also funfact about Goetia - What you know as "Ars Goetia" is just part of 3, "the Lesser Key of Solomon" is about Demons (and some Devils), but there was also part about Angels and natural spirits (like nymphs, fairies, etc, mediaeval monsters)

>I have not found lists of the other 2 thought. This, as complete thing, is the "Ars Goetia".

Well, I have found something related to the angelic part of it, here is explanation of few terms appearing there, as the thread is not literal to it's name and they only post "somekind of a prayer" (ritual?) with them mentioned.

(Original post here >>/goodchristian/846 , read it to see all the terms)

Those ending in -el or -on are angels btw, -im is a plural form of something.

Haioth - Hayyot/Chayot HaKodesh, in Jewish hierarchy of angels it's the highest angelic rank, means "the Living ones". They were described in Ezekiel as a chimaera looking creature, but are mostly associated with Cherubim (both Hayyot and Cherubim exists in Maimonides' Angelic hierarchy independently tho)

Methratton - Metatron, Voice of God, his name is of uncertain origin and meaning (just like Sandalphon's), check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metatron#Etymology . He's believed to have more names tho, and there are more spellings, like this one.

>Iehovah - Jehovah, I am who I am (Lord). The closest spelling of original YHVH was Jahwe, Jehovah was created by Masoretes who added vovels to Hebrew (at least that's what I was told on religion lessons in high school by Priest), omnitting saying God's name in an accident they incorporated vowels of Adonai (Lord) instead

>Ophanim - Thrones (some see them as distinct), the Wheels or Many-eyed ones

>Iophiel - Jophiel, Beauty of God

>Elohim - Elohim - God (shown in plural form, gods), as God spoke himself in the majestic/monarchic manner (like European monarchs), other see these "gods" as angels in Genesis (so as in fact that angels have created human on their likeness, but it's a too-far reaching hypothesis, you can even fit Gnostic Demiurge Jaldabaoth as the devil who took part in the creation of the evil side of human, I'm not excluding the possiblity that some angels who have fallen later like in Grigori uprising took part in human's creation), as there's rank Elohim and Bene-Elohim in Jeiwish angelic hierarchy and angels were called by this title in the history (that what I was told by one Israeli, so don't take it as a fact)

>Aralim - Erelim, rank of angels, I think equated with second choir in Christian angelic hierarchy (or Archangels and Principalities). Means the Valiant/courageous ones

>Hashmalim - Rank of angels from Jewish hieirarchy, means Elektrons in Latin Vulgata, Amber in English, name of electricity (also in modern Hebrew) was derived from them

>Seraphim - The Burning ones, highest rank of angels in Christian classification

>Camael - He who Sees God

>Tetragrammaton - Consisting four letters, a Greek term. Means YHVH (Jehovah) as the composition itself.

>Raphael - God is Healing, God has Healed or Healing one of God.

>Sabaoth - One of God's titles or names is Jehovah Elohe Sabaoth (Jehovah God of Hosts), Sabaoth means Hosts, Armies, there was an angel Sabaoc mentioned by Frankish mystic/charlatan Adalbert. Sabaoth was also one of Gnostic Archons, who were either see as benevolent or malovelent type of Angels, depending on interpretation of sect (don't take >>>/fringe/'s view on this, they take the version where Demiurge, Archons, and everything related to them are pure evil, but it's not rly how historical Gnostics and even Christian Gnostics saw that), more on this there: http://z8.invisionfree.com/Megadriel/index.php?showtopic=367

>Haniel - Glory of God

>Michael - Who is like God?

>Cherubim - The Mighty ones, term derived from Akkadian, the Hayyots from Ezekiel are often identified/associated as Cherubim

>Gabriel - Strong one of God, God is my strenght, Hero of God, Man of God, God has shown Himself Mighty

 No.2554

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>>2553

Those are the ones I mostly know from memory, I still had to resort myself with Wikipedia tho to not do any misspellings. I don't recall or have slightest idea what others may mean, but they may be related to Sephiroths or attributes of God in the Bible.

(I don't speak Hebrew myself, nor Latin, Greek, Coptic or Aramaic, other Church's Holy languages)

Btw as it comes from the occult sources (the Book claim Solomon was given those seals by Raziel I think, and the whole book, but it's a falsery of renaissance) treat it as a trivia, not something dogmatically true.

Also Disciplus sorry for long time I haven't replied, I dispose my time pretty pathetically and am in many places at once and I see you're pretty active there and we may be even similar as digging the less-known topics usually ignored by mainstream theology (in my case angelology, demonology a bit and nature of God/Trinity, I posted thread regarding the latter on >>>/christian/ and I mostly was either misunderstood or called a heretic, good they don't know it was me)


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>>2553

>>2554

My bad, fugged up board linking again >>>/goodchristian/846 - Here's the original post and my reply to this, I have expanded my version a bit on this board tho


 No.2556

>>2553

*some see that as in fact that


 No.2559

>>2553

>like nymphs, fairies, etc, mediaeval monsters

Myth or did they actual exist/do exist?

>Those ending in -el or -on are angels btw, -im is a plural form of something.

Isn't this just a hebrew thing like with us/a in Latin?

>Haioth

It is interesting that Cherubii seem to be higher regarded than Seraphii regarding tasks and titles yet the human like seraphii are supposedly the highest rank.

Any idea why Judaism and Christianity differ here?

>>2554

Oh it is fine we are rather slow after all.

It also takes me often several days to answer to a thread or post

>>2555

Is the only reason you prefer us over /boardnametoolong/ that we are more active?

What can an angel actually do?

What are his powers? Can angels actually create?

How do they interact with us?

Is there a way to distinguish an angel from a demon or devil?

—–

Thank you very much, very good and informative posts.


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>tfw no BEEf


 No.2561

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 No.2564

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 No.2565

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 No.2566

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 No.2567

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 No.2568

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BEE who you wanna /b/


 No.2569

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Mods are FAGGOTS xBEE


 No.2570

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 No.3024

I always found this baffling.

So did the angels deliberately choose to revolt against God or were they seduced?

But even if, how was this possible? Didn't they know God, and face God and had seen all his glory and power?

They must have thought that they have a realistic chance of winning this.


 No.8538

we really should focus on helping those in the occult or from that kind of background; they are more lieyl to find christ as their eyes are set on the heavens (even though they likely in greater spiritual danger due to magick etc)

many of us from a pol background looked into paganism, and of course then fringe as we searched for more concrete metaphysical laws…


 No.8554

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>>3024

I think it was more Lucifer was upset that God wanted him to serve man.

He felt like he was above man.

Since God wanted him to serve something lower than him, he felt that God should be made to do the same.

I don't think he thought he could actually beat God.

But I do suspect that he thought he could ruin God's plan by making man sin.

Lucky for us God had already planned for that.

As for the angels that followed him, I dunno.

I suspect they were decieved.

PS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP-7PPHk9CM




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