/christ/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>2879

You came here because of the mod actions right? No one of us sent you there to citation: "stirr up shit" . Just for the records.

>>2881

No, obviously not, it doesn't work like that. There's no /christ/ cabal or anything, but you and I both remember the first wave of nonsense caused by that mod, and its nice to know there's an alternative. My actions represent me and me alone.

I mean, when the stuff happened first with us it was just you, me, OoLF, a few others maybe and Desubong gets all the praise since he made this all come to life.

I wonder if he considers posting about Gnosticism "/pol/ stuff".

If so, I'll exclusively be here.

>>2883

>No, obviously not, it doesn't work like that. There's no /christ/ cabal or anything

I know that. But they will accuse us of it anyway :^)

>OoLF

Came here later

It would be interesting who is here since the beginning. Probably just we 3.

>>2883

>first with us it was just you

Ia m not every Catholic poster here btw ;^)

>>2884

>I wonder if he considers posting about Gnosticism "/pol/ stuff".

You have to follow the Nicene Creed in order to be allowed there.

>>2884

Gnosticism has been unofficially banned from /christian/ for while now. Ever since Gnostic/Carolinian started making those Gnostic Generals there.

>>2885

Smart, you are. We'll see what happens. At the end of the day, I'd just like to give people the chance. If they'd rather be elsewhere that's on them.

I thought you were discipulus, that's who I meant. If not, forgive me, but I appreciate your insight and participation all the same

>>2886

Oh I know, but non-Nicene Christians and non-Christians can still hang around to ask questions and stuff, right?

Or did that get changed?

>>2887

>Gnosticism has been unofficially banned from /christian/ for while now.

Oh…that's unfortunate.

>Ever since Gnostic/Carolinian started making those Gnostic Generals there.

He wasn't just being a shitposter, right?

He was legitimately trying to open up dialogue about it, right?

Please be right.

The cuckvol thread was autosaged, the other one closed.

>>2890

>He was legitimately trying to open up dialogue about it, right?

Yes, there were some gnostics.

Sedevacantists were the firsts that needed to go iirc. Then the gnostics, eventually the mormons, now everyone from /pol/

>>2890

>He wasn't just being a shitposter, right?

I seriously doubt it. You'd know best, since you understand gnosticism better than I. That said, no, he seemed really dedicated, really interested in speaking with others about it, and unafraid to debate and assert himself as a Christian. Also he was incredibly upset when the whole thread was deleted and the bans began to happen.

He dropped gnosticism, but stayed as an "esoteric christian" named carolinian, but even that was too much for the Inquisition to handle, so now he's just gone I think.

>>2898

>Sedevacantists were the firsts that needed to go iirc. Then the gnostics, eventually the mormons, now everyone from /pol/

This. It's only a matter of time before this business repeats itself.

>>2879

This board looks good. I thought /christian/ was a good board, but then suddenly the CUCKVOL starts acting up.

It wasn't even an excessively /pol/ thing to say, we just told another poster not to marry a slut and called out the people defending "former" sluts

>>2943

Maybe you hit a nerve? Btw whoever came up with the name "cuckvol" gets all my high fives. He was just "angry catholic mod" for me prior to that.

>>2945

That was me :^)

Eh, this board doesn't seem too bad… I'll use it if le angry catholic vol goes on anudda powertrip, but i'm going to stick with /christian/ for now. Anyways, have a free IP.

>>2980

Thanks.

You could also use both if you wish so.

>>2981

I get banned on that shitty board constantly. I'm banned right now for proving how worthless the roman Catholics are yet again at defending Christianity worldwide. The cathocucks can't defend their shitty church so they just ban people.

When will these retards wake up and realize that the RCC of today is just a bloated corpse of a once great church?

>>3008

Are you the one who's been Mormon posting over there anon?

>>3008

You've never done that.

Also it is always weird how people wanna turn this in an anti-catholic thing when we were founded by Catholic and are majority Catholic as well.

Also I want to add that I personally would never criticise the moderation there for banning aggressive and insulting posts, but they don't leave it at that.

>>3014

That's not explicitly against the rules though, that's the issue. The "rules" are there just for show but the real rules are the whims and menstrual flows of uptight mods.

>>3019

>>3019

>Yes I have actually. I've gotten banned a bunch of times over there and half of the time it was from pointing out the shittiness of the RCC.

No, the only thing you are pointing out is your inability to discuss with others. You are just disrespectful and very insincere btw.

>I used to post tons of bible verses on that board supporting traditional Christianity all day long. I'm the one that funneled a shit ton of new people from voat because I own the biggest christian board over there so they can thank me for probably at least 100 active users on /christian/. (who are probably all "catholics" now)

You've not done them a service, redditors are not the people they needed.

>The fact is, they are scared to death of Mormonism becoming popular on that board because they know that, in the real world, it really will destroy any stronghold that Catholicism still has in America (and indeed the entire western world) and they want their online hug box so they can bury their heads in the sand a little while longer.

No they are not scared of Mormonism. They just find you annoying which you are btw and therefore decided to ban it.

>>3019

>I used to post tons of bible verses on that board supporting traditional Christianity all day long.

Also Mormonism is not Christian.

http://8archive.moe/christian/thread/121155/

>>3110

I always check if they're still up, and if not, I make a new one. I hope the constant presence of threads insulting the CUCKVOL will eventually wear him down (I know he reads them, and that he is bothered by them. He's a textbook narcissist)

New one here

http://8ch.net/christian/res/122189.html

>>3131

Also link to the poll, because the thread will probably be gone in a few hours

http://www.strawpoll.me/4780167

>>3134

THE SAGA CONTINUES

http://8ch.net/christian/res/123082.html

>>3202

Lel, I like it how I'm furthering the issue by existing here and not doing a thing; makes me wonder what I could do if I actually tried.

Whatever, I think its funny that you do this, mostly for the keks, but I don't think we should all be involved in some anti-/christian/ crusade because… well it just sounds boring to me personally. I'll be staying here exclusively, and I think we should all focus on making this board better.

>>3209

I'm just sticking it out until my ban expires there, then I'll probably make a very public post on /christian/ advertising for this board and stay here mostly

>be discipulus

>have prophetic abilities

>>>/christiandiscussion/49

>This is a different topic to me. We should discuss a change in the rules but this is not affecting our mod and shall not become a personal vendetta

>>>/christiandiscussion/52

>Why not just address the grievances while we're at it?

>>>/christiandiscussion/55

>>>52

>Because it is about the board and not the mod.

>We can start discussing it now, I just want to make clear that we are not against the mod but for different rules

>>3319

Lol this whole thing has been a mess. I'd imagine each time this happens (and it will happen, again) it will sort of filter out the non-rulecucks over there.

>>2879

> "anything that smells of /pol/" will be banned.

Sounds like he's going to have to ban 80% of their board, then.

>the Venezuelan Affair few moths back.

Have I been gone this long??? What the hell is the Venezuelan Affair?

>>2885

>Came here later

Sir, I opened the very first post here. Your memory doesn't serve you well.

>>2889

>Oh I know, but non-Nicene Christians and non-Christians can still hang around to ask questions and stuff, right?

Anyone is welcome here. Anyone can stay. That hasn't changed and won't ever change.

As long as you understand that we consider non-nicene Christians just non-Christians, but even if you don't, you're welcome.

>>3019

I like this guy.

I don't think we've met before but I'm glad you're around.

Things will become even more interesting.

>>3368

It was the thing that led to the creation of this board, when Venezuelan anon was banned by the Cuckvol, thus sparking this like 3 day back and forth between the mod and those who opposed him.

You were there, you'll remember it. Its just *my* name for the whole shanda.

>>3371

Indeed. You've always been here. But you came later on /christiandiscussion/ and were not involved in the whole Venezuelanon banning affair iirc.

>>3377

>You were there, you'll remember it. Its just *my* name for the whole shanda.

W-we even have OC about it.

>>944

>>3410

>But you came later on /christiandiscussion/ and were not involved in the whole Venezuelanon banning affair iirc.

Yeah, I jumped on the bandwagon after it passed and clumsily crashed into the railroad, then got banned, and banned.

Cool story.

Cuckvol keeps telling lies about me / going on his odd crusade. I know what is up now, though.

I think he has two problems:

1. I once shitposted a thread which to me was obvious satire where I pretended to be a Protestant saying that asking people to pray for you makes you a heretic (which people called ridiculous, which was meant to lead to them realizing that praying to saints isn't bad). I thought it was obvious but maybe not.

2. I got into an argument with him, or his friend, about public repentance. They kept asking me to quote from the Catechism and I said it's not in there (a) because not everything is and (b) it's a modernist Catechism. I maintained that public sinners are required to give public reparation/denunciation of their sins or else their participation in the sacrament of the Eucharist is scandalous. This was in reference to a celebrity with a sex tape.

He now tells people I am a /pol/ infiltrator and a troll and that my ban wasn't to do with anything else but trolling.

He also maintains that /pol/ is welcome on /christian/ I'm pretty sure I was banned for calling someone a cuck so pol users are de facto not welcome.

What this cuckvol just refuses to acknowledge is that he was wrong, out of line and powerfagging. Cuck is a word used on chan boards that has extended way past its original particular meaning. It's basically a whiteknight/beta. But cuckvol suggested it's too /pol/ for his liking. He also suggest that I was a troll and fake Catholic for not wanting to date a girl who goes clubbing as means of converting her. My whole thread was basically me just airing my frustration at this chick who I thought would be nice to date but turns out she's going to clubs and trying to meet guys there which isn't something I am willing to get invovled in. But because some people called her a whore (something I never said) I got banned. And because some people said I should date her anyway (something I am not obliged to do) I was banned.

Cuckvol then suggests I was banned for being too /pol/ and a fake Catholic. When I suggested he look through my previous posts and that I can offer proof to Alex of my Catholicity he was silent.

Now his story is that /pol/ is welcome but I was trolling and calling people names.

That board is done.

I hate cuckvol with a perfect hatred.

He's threatening to reveal my post history and my IP address now after banning me for being sola scriptura first, and then again for being sola fide.

>>6836

Me 2

Try telling more people about this board, many get stuck over there because they think that's the only christian place in 8ch.

>>6836

I don’t have your IP address and neither did I say that, filthy liar.

>>6836

> my IP

I thought only global stuff had this?

DB pls don't tell people where I'm from ;_;

I don't want to get associated with an imageboard that nobody knows of:(

>>6842

He can’t.

>>6844

Please stop coming here just to complain about /christian/ and/or the cuckvol. Start a thread on the banned subject here, there will be no issue I can assure you.

This isn't the complaints department and no one here is going to do a thing about /christian/ or their choice of moderation.

>>6845

I'm sorry, I didn't want to make a dupe thread and slide this one that is relevant to my post. I'm detecting some salt in your post, what's wrong, brother?

>>6845

Relax man, he's just venting.

>>6844

You’e the same as

>>6836

Filthy liar.

>>6836

1 John 4:20

>>6846

>>6847

I'm good, thanks for asking. I'm sorry, the post came off stronger than I meant to.

I shouldn't have linked that to you specifically, it was directed at people in general.

>>6848

Why do you come here to do that? Even if you're right, which you couldn't prove, who would take your word for it over anyone's, with your rep?

God would know though, regardless of whether you post it or not.

>>6851

dont pay attention to satan m8

hes defeated, desperate, hes angry at the remnant church. He cant stand that there are christians still who hasnt fallen in his net.

/christian/ moderation is trash for Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant alike.

GAS THE CUCKVOL

DEUS VULT NOW

>>6853

He's just a guy, like you and me, just as convinced his church is true as you or I. I just don't get the why of it all sometimes, how he chooses to go about it.

>>6855

I think the number of people that go there regularly proves that there are individuals who actively prefer that style of moderation. I personally dislike it.

I only wish there were as many people willing to have actually interesting and uplifting discussion on /christ/ as there are people hard up for bashing that board and that mod in particular.

>>6853

>dont pay attention to satan m8

Well this escalated quickly. Cathmod is a /christ/ian like you and me. pls stop bully.

>hes defeated, desperate, hes angry at the remnant church. He cant stand that there are christians still who hasnt fallen in his net.

You are aware that Catholicism won?

>>6857

>I only wish there were as many people willing to have actually interesting and uplifting discussion

I think we are doing ok,considering how small we are.

>>6858

Satan can use people you know? Even disciples.

My post didn't had anything to do with catholism because you dont see me replying to you that way or any other catholic here.

> won

Topic for another thread here m8

>>6868

>Satan can use people you know? Even disciples.

I don't see him do any evil to be honest. What do you have in mind here?

>My post didn't had anything to do with catholism because you dont see me replying to you that way or any other catholic here.

oh. But tbh /christian/ won too. They have 20 times our UIPs and even higher posts per hour.

>>6857

Obviously catholics will prefer it. Cuckvol moderates the board like the catholic church would. He's arrogant, he doesn't care about scripture, and he abuses his power.

>>6858

>You are aware that Catholicism won?

lol ever read the book of revelation?

>>6876

>i don't see satan doing any evil

eh what

>>6876

> But tbh /christian/ won too

just because they have more people dont see they won, in that regards satan has won.

>>6881

Broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat

>>6879

>he doesn't care about scripture

I’d be careful about that. I just don’t care about your shitty exegesis.

So who is this cuckvol and is he related to the threads that keep disappearing on /christian/?

>>6890

And that wouldn’t even trouble anyone you kept it in one thread but you are literally shilling a radical form of sola fide everywhere, without being asked.

But I am quite sure you are just a troll who googles words and then spams the thread with bible verses loosely fitting. If you were actually 'evangelical' you would know scripture without verse numberings which you didn’t.

>>6893

>im spooked

/pol/ here. I couldn't stand the hateful atheists anymore so I thought I would pop in here and see if things were any better.

>>6903

Its a slow board, not at all like /pol/. Still, what it lacks in speed and traffic I opine it makes up for in quality per discussion.

>>6879

>Obviously catholics will prefer it. Cuckvol moderates the board like the catholic church would. He's arrogant, he doesn't care about scripture, and he abuses his power.

You are aware thatwithout Catholics there would be no /christ/ ?

>>6880

>eh what

It is a baseless claim that this mod is Satan. I do not see the mod doing any evil.

>>6903

>/pol/ here. I couldn't stand the hateful atheists anymore so I thought I would pop in here and see if things were any better.

The atheists here are rather nice.

>>6910

>It is a baseless claim that this mod is Satan. I do not see the mod doing any evil.

Preventing people from hearing the gospel is Satan's work.

>The atheists here are rather nice.

Well you aren't far removed from them–you also trust in works. The Bible says that if you trust in your works you'll be condemned by them

>>6933

papists should never be in positions of authority. the door to heaven is unlocked by the Son, but these papists stand without not going in themselves neither suffering any others to enter in.

If Jesus had really given papists the keys to heaven they'd lock the door and demand indulgences

>>6892

He's the sole guy who runs /christian/ now. He's a catholic who lives in bavaria, germany. He deletes all thread about biblical gender roles and he posts passive agressive threats to anyone who doesn't agree with him on doctrine (youre going to far i hope i wont have to ban you again).-Rumour has it he is an actual cuck, him being a white man, having a asian woman, and black children. Supposedly he admitted this himself on irc but nobody has posted the chatlogs so we don't really know.

>>6893

You probably haven't even read the bible. There are literally over a hundred verses supporting sola fide.

>>6938

There is nothing wrong with hating the catholic church as long as you love catholics

>>6944

I'm not that new. I'll bash anyone who promotes works based salvation because I believe they are leading their flocks right to hell.

But the catholic church is the single worst one, they are the most hypocritical, abusive, power-tripping, anti-intellectual, arrogant, passive-agressive, effeminate, censoring, judgemental, judaizers of Christianity I have ever seen. I believe their church is of the devil.

>>6945

Ok, my mistake dude. Carry on then. Are you a baptist then, a Calvinist?

We haven't had a good protestant thread since…. I can't even remember.

>>6945

>anti-intellectual

Hahaha, I hate to tell you but your exegesis is probably the most unintellectual shit I’ve read on the internet. Just quoting the bible doesn’t make your unreflected Stephen Anderson parroting smarter.

>>6939

>He's a catholic who lives in bavaria, germany.

wrong

>He deletes all thread about biblical gender roles

wrong

>he posts passive agressive threats to anyone who doesn't agree with him on doctrine

wrong

>Rumour has it he is an actual cuck, him being a white man, having a asian woman, and black children

wrong

>Supposedly he admitted this himself

Either you’re an especially pathetic troll or you are an especially dumb person who eats any turd a troll shits as long as it pays for your rage. But I guess I am just feeding the troll right now.

>>6916

Clothing your trolling in bible verses doesn’t make them less of a troyan horse. Nobody on /christian/ needs to be evangelised by spamming them the bible. Whoever wants to read the gospel will not require your help, faithless pagan.

I'm confused.

Is the guy banning and deleting threads the same guy who complains about schismatics,

who splintered from the "true" catholic church?

If so, aren't those actions itself creating a fissure between the different denominations?

I want to remind everyone that we are all trying to follow Jesus, misguided or not, and not to attack the person but their beliefs.

It would also help knowing what the justifications for the moderation are.

If it's because they are believing in wrong doctrine, shouldn't we confront and correct them instead of closing the door?

If anyone, people who are on the wrong path need more help than anyone else.

>I believe their church is of the devil.

You can believe that, you don’t get to constantly plaster it on our board though.

And yes, you are not new, you have been doing it for quite some while which makes it even more pathetic.

>>6951

Maybe you should not believe in what a shill on the internet tells you.

>>6953

Who's the shill, what am I believing?

I'm only asking questions since there's a lack of clarity.

>>6949

>He deletes all thread about biblical gender roles

He does this, I've seen it myself. He has threatened me too. I don't know if the rest is true thats why I said it was a rumour.

>Hahaha, I hate to tell you but your exegesis is probably the most unintellectual shit I’ve read on the internet. Just quoting the bible doesn’t make your unreflected Stephen Anderson parroting smarter.

This is the exact passive-agressive tone I'm talking about. The laughing, the "I'm above you" without actually presenting any real reply, the anti-bible sentiment, the false accusations

>>6949

>Clothing your trolling in bible verses doesn’t make them less of a troyan horse. Nobody on /christian/ needs to be evangelised by spamming them the bible. Whoever wants to read the gospel will not require your help, faithless pagan.

Spreading the gospel is hardly spamming. How can you be angry with people spreading the gospel even on a christian board? Why do you accuse people of trolling when they are genuinly trying to win your soul to Christ? This is like reddit-reasoning where everything controversial is considering "trolling". You obviously need help if you believe in works-based salvation. People are doing it because they want to win souls to christ, not because they want to troll you.

>>6952

Our board? Are you talking about the lost judaized /christian/ board or /christ/ now? As far as I know spreading the gospel is absolutely allowed on /christ/.

>>6947

I'm probably the closest to independent baptist, but I don't think baptism is required to be saved or anything like that.

>>6957

No real Baptist church believes that water baptism can save you. To be saved you have to be baptized by the Holy Spirit, which happens when you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. The physical baptism in water is only a representation of the spiritual baptism by the Holy Spirit. But honestly you can be saved without any works whatsoever, even without baptism. Should we stop baptizing then? Surely not. But you don't need works for salvation

>>6958

amen

>>6951

>If it's because they are believing in wrong doctrine, shouldn't we confront and correct them instead of closing the door?

I personally corrected him dozens of times and he would just say that he will ignore the words of a papist. Hard hearted hate-preacher with ears who don’t listen.

>>6954

Well obviously you feed a certain gossip by asking questions. And the shill is obviously the person who admits that he has been banned for slurring the biggest denomination (and continues doing so) while the board says they are welcome.

>>6955

>Spreading the gospel is hardly spamming.

It’s literally spam, there is no reason you would have to give out more than a link. The bible published is just a book and empty data, which is either a click or a reach of the hand away.

While you literally think that not just throwing, but choking people with your net is evangelisation (works btw). I’d prefer you to just trust in Christ and fuck off instead of overstaying your welcome. You are lacking in patience.

>>6956

Spreading the gospel does not equal shouting it when others are having a discussion who already know it anyway. Presupposition is a sin and you should be more humble than that.

>>6958

>But you don't need works for salvation

Neither do catholics argue like that. And the water baptism is not just a representation, it is the real baptism. Someone who was baptised as a baby does not need to be baptised again, they already received the Holy Spirit.

>>6961

>catholics don't believe in works salvation

>but you need works for salvation

This is what I mean

>>6962

>>6222

>What good is it, my brothers and sisters,

>

>if someone says he has faith but does not have works?

>

>Can that faith save him?

>

>If a brother or sister has nothing to wear

>

>and has no food for the day,

>

>and one of you says to them,

>

>“Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well, ”

>

>but you do not give them the necessities of the body,

>

>what good is it?

>

>So also faith of itself,

>

>if it does not have works, is dead.

>

>Indeed someone might say,

>

>“You have faith and I have works.”

>

>Demonstrate your faith to me without works,

>

>and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works.

>>6957

Oh ok, that's cool.

But yeah, you ought to consider making a thread about your ideas and beliefs or what have you; a Baptist general or Protestant General if you will.

>>6961

I wish I had never made this thread. I wish you would be satisfied with just banning "undesirables" from /christian/ and stay over there. What do you gain from coming here to argue?

>>6961

>I personally corrected him dozens of times and he would just say that he will ignore the words of a papist. Hard hearted hate-preacher with ears who don’t listen.

I have never said this.

>Well obviously you feed a certain gossip by asking questions. And the shill is obviously the person who admits that he has been banned for slurring the biggest denomination (and continues doing so) while the board says they are welcome.

I wasn't bad for slurring any denomination, I was banned for calling out the admin. Other threads I've been in have been deleted because they contradict cuckvols personal doctrines (like the ones on proper gender roles). In either case, papists are routinely throwing out the most vile insults against baptists, and so if that is allowed, then insults against papists should be allowed also.

>It’s literally spam, there is no reason you would have to give out more than a link. The bible published is just a book and empty data, which is either a click or a reach of the hand away.

That's silly. If I'm going to advocate for a specific doctrine (the single most important one in the whole religion) then of course I'm going to try to convince people using scripture. Citing specific scripture becomes extra important when a lot of modern bibles have twisted the original meanings of the bible.

>While you literally think that not just throwing, but choking people with your net is evangelisation (works btw).

>works btw

Of course it's works. Why are you pointing that out? We don't claim that works are bad, no no no. Everyone should do works. But works don't equal salvation, and in fact trusting in your works to save you will stop God's grace.

>I’d prefer you to just trust in Christ and fuck off instead of overstaying your welcome. You are lacking in patience.

This is /christ/, we are welcome here. Please go back to /christian/ if you want to continue having your papist circlejerk uninterrupted, the cuckvol does a pretty good job to make sure of that.

>>6961

>Spreading the gospel does not equal shouting it when others are having a discussion who already know it anyway

Most Christians don't know about it, and that includes catholics. Just the fact that papists often reply with "so works is bad haha! this heretic is going to helL" proves that they have a complete misunderstanding of the doctrine, the scriptural support for it, the reasoning etc.

>>6961

>Neither do catholics argue like that. And the water baptism is not just a representation, it is the real baptism. Someone who was baptised as a baby does not need to be baptised again, they already received the Holy Spirit.

You teach repent of your sins salvation, that is faith+works, that is in direct opposition to galatians and literally hundreds of bible verses all over the bible. If it was just a doctrinal disagreement it wouldn't be so serious, but because the bible states that everyone who believes in your docrine will lose Gods grace and thus go to hell it is of the utmost importance to correct

>>6963

I'll reply to this later probably but I gtg rn.

>>6966

It might deserve its own thread though. You could open one later on, where you show your arguments and evidence.

>>6965

No, you were banned for being an asshole

every

single

time

There has never been a post without you behaving like a condescending caricature of chick tracts.

>>6962

No, thats not works at all, baptism isn’t works, it’s grace.

>>6964

Are you telling me to stay over there? Are you telling me to not have discussions on an imageboard? Maybe you just go over there instead of shitposting about /christian/ on this board.

>What do you gain from coming here to argue

I don’t gain but I do it anyway.

>>6936

Kek.

>>6967

It does.

> tfw the sillymod have to shit every thread now.

>>6968

>Are you telling me to stay over there? Are you telling me to not have discussions on an imageboard?

I always liked it when you actually contributed here.

>I don’t gain but I do it anyway.

This does not make sense. Things do not happen by chance, we all have reasons to do the things we do.

>>6969

Said the judaized SDA. This is literally a thread about moderation policies on another board though.

>>6971

I guess I don’t feel like abandoning you lot. I also think that Desubong is in sin as long as this board exists. :^)

And as I mentioned earlier in the thread, I think this board exists purely as a trolling attempt by his.

>>6974

You not only post here and you know it.

> judaized

Ay lmao, not after vatican II my friend :^)

>>6970

Not sure. I like it.

>>6970

>Where are all the new friends coming from btw

Office, home, vpns

>>6976

I am a trad

>>6976

Fine, I will change my flag to the vendée sacre coeur flag again so you can actually see that I don’t shill. What I meant is that you are literally shitting up a thread that should not exist on this board in which your opinion is not asked

>>6976

There you go. Unlike most people I ban on /christian/, I don’t have to pretend being someone else.

>>6968

Do you think baptism is required to be saved? What do you think is required to be saved? How do you receive Gods grace? How is baptism not a work of the law? It's kinda like circumcision.

>>6980

How would you feel if you would be banned here?

>>6981

What do you mean with 'work of the law'?

It seems like baptists have a weird dialectics which makes it impossible to communicate with them. 'works' is totally misunderstood, too. Baptism is not a man made ritual washing, it’s a one time gift in which God calls out Israel.

When Jesus healed the lame man, was the forgiveness of sins a work of the law, too, or was it a transmission of God’s grace? If unbaptised people can baptise, is it really a work of the law?

And yes, baptism saves.

18 And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth.

19 Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.

Teaching that baptism is not required is in itself a sin, as it goes against His commandments.

>>6983

This would prove the board wrong and be its demise. I don’t care at all and I’d accept such judgment. Unlike the pussies who go whine on another board about it

>>6968

Yes. I don't like you and I think you personify shitposting here. And yet, I don't think you should be banned, because *that* is the heart and soul of this board, your delusions of grandeur and Joan of Arc complex nonwithstanding.

Which is why I won't go to /christian/, thanks, because you would ban me.

>>6989

It’s okay that you hate polarising personalities. I’d suggest you become a free mason, so you can shill that everyone can behave as lowly as possible. Only an idiot or an envious kike confuses knighthood with grandeur

>>6989

I agree with the mormon

>>6990

What does the church says about talking down and insulting other people?

>>6993

I meant his use of “Joan of Arc complex”

Literally hating that someone is an actual saint. Literally crucifying Jesus because they don’t like the impact.

As to me, I am behaving perfectly in line with catholic teaching: humbly doing ones duty.

I could do with caring less about other people bearing false witness against me, though. Something you fuel by replying.

>>6995

If you think *I* am the one talking down on others, you seem unaware of all the abuse I get in the threads, to quote the catechism:

2477 Respect for the reputation of persons forbids every attitude and word likely to cause them unjust injury. He becomes guilty:

- of rash judgment who, even tacitly, assumes as true, without sufficient foundation, the moral fault of a neighbor;

- of detraction who, without objectively valid reason, discloses another's faults and failings to persons who did not know them;

- of calumny who, by remarks contrary to the truth, harms the reputation of others and gives occasion for false judgments concerning them.

>>6997

Dont you think you're violating the catechism?

>>6997

You don't realize that your own actions are why people respond negatively to you? Nobody would be complaining if you weren't a terrible moderator. And if you were a decent moderator you wouldn't delete the evidence of your moderation. The truth doesn't fear investigation

>>7000

Sorry, you have no understanding of imageboards at all. There is no just investigation on imageboards as trolls are a thing. And trolls complain because they cannot troll anymore, kid.

This guy is either a leftist false-flag acting like what he thinks Christians are like, or a fascinating study in the psychology of a power-mad hotpocket.

>>7005

This literally reads like ironic shitposting, kiddo.

Anyways, I want to apologize to you for hearing rumours about you and posting them as facts, even when I didn't know if they were true or not. Please forgive me.

On every other issue you are completely wrong though.

>>2898

>now everyone from /pol/

I guess he didn't appreciate being laughed at and called a cuck. /pol/ isn't afraid to speak it's mind to people who are being dumb or playing their own little game of self-service. It doesn't surprise me that people who crosspost between the two boards would eventually end up rankling up a BO with a fragile ego. It's happened before with other boards and BOs.

>>2943

>It wasn't even an excessively /pol/ thing to say, we just told another poster not to marry a slut and called out the people defending "former" sluts

I haven't been on /christian/ in quite some time. Before this schism happened, in fact. Did it actually start in that NoHymenNoDiamond thread? Is that where it kicked off?

Because if it did, I was in that thread. I was the guy arguing that just because we are obligated to forgive a sin, does not mean that sin should be forgotten, or that it should be devoid of social or societal consequences. So even though we should forgive a woman who slept around, that doesn't mean we need to forget that she did so, or ignore the fact that she is not a virgin and would make a poor wife and worse mother.

Was the BO, who you've apparently named Cuckvol, the guy arguing that men should go out of their way to marry whores and single mothers, because all women deserve to be able to "settle down?" Is that really what started this, him being laughed at and told by multiple people that he was wrong?

>>7012

The reasons on why this board started is at >>944

>>7009

>even when I didn't know if they were true or not

If you did not, why do you just buy into it? See it as a lesson for personal piety that the standards you set for others will be the standards of your judgment.

>>7012

I wasn’t in the thread. That’s the problem with gossip, you presuppose an answer and I cannot give you one. I even laughed about the thread.

And I am solely here to ask the good people like discipulus back to /christian/ and show that this place is just filled with trolls and non-christians

And as catholicism is utterly underrepresented here, it’s my duty to breadpill you properly. And /pol/ morality has nothing to do with

>>7010

Humbleness does not mean I cannot call people out on their bullshit.

>>7014

Enjoy more threads on page one, dummy.

>>7015

Look at the fruits though. /christian/ full of productive threads, this board fueled by sensationalism and hate.

>>6997

>humbly doing ones duty

>>7017

>See it as a lesson for personal piety that the standards you set for others will be the standards of your judgment.

Ironic, the reason I bought into it was because I was enraged, a good thread was deleted, then a second one, and then people seemed to have been unjustly banned because they just stopped posting. So I was ready to talk all kinds of shit about the moderator.

The lesson is that I should keep myself to a higher standard. I hate it when catholics falsely accuse me, but I should not respond in kind, that is not a Christian way to deal with it. I shouldn't let anger and frustration overtake my judgement. I need to walk in the spirit and not in the flesh. The anger was righteous but the gossiping was the opposite.

>>7017

>The BO shows up within three seconds of being mentioned to defend his own honor in person, shit on the people of the board, shill his own board, and demand compliance.

It would be a neck-and-neck race to work out who was worse, you or Acid.

Acid was far more pernicious in his power trip, but you take it far more personally, which is both funny and sad.

I guess we'll know soon if you start artificially inflating your userbase to give the illusion of not being a guy alone in his own hugbox.

>>7019

Now that’s a bit arrogant and it still misrepresents or at least weirdly suggests that people have been unjustly banned (which people, which threads anyway, etc.)

I don’t think you really repented but at least you understood my message. If I behave unjustly, just endure it and receive grace for it. It is the burden of 'being in charge' to cast a judgment and to maybe rush one. Trust me if I really feel that I am in the wrong, I am repentent. Given the attitude though I just don’t see it. Then it will become a standoff.

>>7020

>but I am not good

Yeah I know that you are mostly concerned

>our moderation is 100% Catholic

A baptism certificate doesn’t make a catholic. But the fruits are that he at least goes to mass and went to confession, so I will give him that. That would make three real catholics.

>>7021

Surely me being the only person to tell those people that gossip is a sin is the opposite of evangelisation.

>he polar opposite

Only in modernist dialectics. I mean, it’s okay that you do not understand Christianity and your sci-fi-mockery of a religion of it shows that you have no clue about it, so I am not surprised. I do what I must.

>>7023

Look, I don’t give a fuck about your lulz, kid. Make fun of me but I won’t behave unchristian for memes. This board is one of the few boards I frequent, formerly to correct a specific user. I don’t take anything personally and it is a shame that there is nobody else who would rather say: 'I don’t like the cathmod but you should really not gossip'

The hugbox is /christ/, not /christian/

>>7017

>Look at the fruits though. /christian/ full of productive threads, this board fueled by sensationalism and hate.

Please reflect on this.

You powertrip and create drama.

You ban any discussion on your board.

Now you say the other board is shit because they are actually nice enough to welcome the people you kicked out.

You come here to take part in this self proclaimed "sensationalism and hate", so you are essentially shitting up another board by your own admission.

There would never have been a problem in the first place if you didn't just delete everything you don't like, but I guess it doesn't matter if it's not on your board.

>>7026

>Trust me if I really feel that I am in the wrong, I am repentent. Given the attitude though I just don’t see it.

Why do you base it on real or perceived attitudes, instead of trying to analyze the facts of what actually has happened?

>>7032

Pic is very related, actually. I am not offering jewish prices, I just filter out shilling.

>>7031

>if you didn't just delete everything you don't like

Again, wrong assumption.

>You come here to take part in this self proclaimed "sensationalism and hate", so you are essentially shitting up another board by your own admission.

I have not opened a thread about this. But yes, I should be quiet about any of this, this is true.

>You ban any discussion on your board.

Meta discussions not only are not leading anywhere, they are also lead and abused by people who neither have all the facts nor care about all the facts.

>>7035

Well unlike you lot I am presented the facts all the time because I can see the posting history of the people I ban. And yes, I have banned the baptist for calling the Blessed Virgin 'some dead chick' once. And I don’t feel regret and could not.

>>7038

>Meta discussions not only are not leading anywhere

Hello, the reason we are here on 8chan is meta discussion.

Please tell me how this is different from the halfchan exodus.

>>7026

If you don't confess your shameful abuse of a position of responsibility when you go to confession, I sure hope you aren't receiving the Blessed Sacrament.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+11%3A29&version=DRA

(Except you're a leftist parody of a Catholic, not a Catholic, so it doesn't actually apply.)

>>7040

Then it’s time to overcome a sense for persecution and realise I am just some anon who really wants to evangelise people instead of running forever.

I posted on /vg/ and stopped posting on /v/ a long time before /v/ went political. I am exactly one of the people who you can trust because I have no agenda. Other than keeping holy that which is holy.

>>7041

Stop cargo culting and using words like “leftist”.

>>7045

>Then it’s time to overcome a sense for persecution

It's not a "sense" of persecution.

You're insinuating it's all just fictional.

There are whole threads that got purged that contained actual constructive discussion, often not even related to what you don't like to see on there.

You fail to show how your moderation is acceptable while we fled from similar conditions a year ago.

You said meta discussion is useless and I gave you an undeniable example where it's not and where it has affected almost everyone on 8chan.

>I'm just some anon

>I have no agenda because I stopped using /v/

No one cares about anything but your actions, which do show a blatant agenda which.

It doesn't matter if you think it's just or not.

>instead of running forever

I have no plan on doing that.

/christ/ seems to be a perfectly fine board and I'm planning to stay.

>>7053

Fine, stay here, don’t shitpost on /christian/ anymore.

>>7026

>Make fun of me but I won’t behave unchristian for memes.

You aren't a Christian. You throw out those who are contrary to your beliefs instead of ministering to them. A true Christian would accept any who wished to discuss, argue, or disagree, and see it as an opportunity to show the rightness of the path. They would embrace the dialogue, confident in their own truth.

Instead, you allow your ego to grow greater than the room you gave over for God in your heart, pushing him and his love out in favor of your own pride-driven hate. You slam the doors in the faces of the innocent and guilty alike, and cloister yourselves away to hoard the light of God like a miser, protecting it from the masses instead of sharing it with the world.

God does not need your protection, you fool. His truth does not need you to bury it away to keep it safe, does not need you to smother it with your own sin to keep it alive. It has survived wars, plagues, tyrants, and disasters, endured the conquest of the Muslim Caliphate and emerged unscathed from the historical fracturing of the Papacy.

Your arrogance and pride already drove away three people we know of from the community, and will be responsible in the future for more.

When you die, you will burn. There is no place for you in Heaven, and there never will be. Jesus forgives all those who have committed sin. But you can only be forgiven if you recognize that what you did was wrong and seek forgiveness. Repentance relies upon genuine regret. You are not regretful. Those who lack regret for their own failings and shortcomings will not be ushered into Heaven based solely on the Grace of God. Forgiveness must be sought. It cannot be given to the unregretful.

Your ego has driven people from a flock. If they become lost now because of it, then the blood on their immortal souls is on your hands. You are the false shepard who lead them astray, and you insult the name of God and his love for the world by claiming to speak as he intends us to, by pretending to act in the ways he has instructed us to.

You did not turn the other cheek. You did not love your neighbor.

You are no Christian. You are no brother of mine. You are not a child of God, and you will not enjoy how you spend eternity. You are not one of the Chosen, and you will inherit the ashes of the earth, not the Kingdom of Heaven.

I will pray for your change of heart. The spirit of God has worked miracles before, and could one day work one within you. But the material man in me doubts it.

I just had a nap. Right as I woke up I had a flashback of all the cuckvol posts. Before I came to my senses I thought there for a minute that all of this was a dream.

>>7069

>trickle down grace

Now I don't know if this is actually real.

Is there a way to know you aren't just roleplaying to make us argue?

>>7072

It trickles down from the church fathers through the Pope to the Roman Catholic who do good works

>>7069

>That's exactly why you are banned

I was never banned. You don't know who I am. You don't know my face. We've never spoken before. And I have no personal grudge against you.

Does it bother you, that I still condemn you so? Do you live in a world so small that everyone who condemns your actions must be from a small group of tripfags who are obviously conspiring against you?

I could go to your board and do whatever I wanted. I am allowed to.

You have no power here. You are unrepentant and unremorseful. Your heart is filled with pride and hatred, and it has drowned out the light that God blessed you with.

As a child of God, I will pray for your salvation, but as a son of man, I tell you this:

Judge not, lest yea be judged.

Your days will end in fire, and your reward will be that you will be judged as you have judged others. Your lips will be forced to confess the truth that your traitorous heart refuses to concede, and you will damn yourself with your admittance that you cast the first stone, and did not regret it.

>>7077

>and do whatever I wanted. I am allowed to

Again, cheap manipulation and psychopathy.

>trickle down grace

top kek

>>7072

>>7075

No, I mean sacramental, sanctifying grace. Without communion in His real presence, all good works are out of ones own force. THis is the folly of throwing all of the evangelium away for a prideful assertion that one may always just trust Jesus in the hour of death, knowing that Jesus will also judge us, presupposing heaven for oneself.

Non-catholics or those who don’t believe in the real presence and do not get washed by absolution are stained, in the least by original sin. It is the pharisees who thought themselves justified before God at all times by keeping the commandments. And yes, those can be kept by our own accord, as they are the natural law. But this is just the minimum and we are all sinners.

>>7085

>If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

>For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

>As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

>>7100

Instead of greentexting scripture, you could use your actual words to say what you want to say because as a catholic I am the least to believe in rigorism (and I personally quote this special verse often). I have no idea what I should reply to that.

>>7081

Your ability to project your own flaws onto those you condemn you is astounding.

You have forgotten the most basic and fundamental tenant of all Christendom, no matter what denomination or schism faction they you care to speak of.

We hate the sin. Not the sinner.

A true Christian condemns the sins committed by themselves and others, but forgives the man, and does not allow themselves to come to hate him.

You do the exact opposite. You don't care about the sin. Only the sinner matters to you. The sin is just an excuse to vent your hatred onto others, the exact opposite of what we were instructed to do by Christ.

You are not a true Christian.

>>7101

Nobody is saved by following the law, nobody can follow the whole law. Even as little as telling a lie is enough to send you to eternal hell according to the bible, and it will unless you have the grace of Jesus.

>>7106

The only thing I told here is that libel and false representation should stop. The rest is rightful exercise of a shitty internet moderation job. Likewise, you cannot judge me for my work and only the Lord can.

To amount a ban with condemnation is pathetic. You however preach a whole lotta poppycock actually against me.

>>7066

>you fool

>You are no Christian. You are no brother of mine

>You are not a child of God

>Your ego

>When you die, you will burn

Also, last reply to you.

>>7109

>Even as little as telling a lie is enough to send you to eternal hell

Then I’d be careful.

>unless you have the grace of Jesus

Grace, yes in faith. Sinners do beget grace by confession and only then they are given grace. You are moving in circles and tell me something I already said earlier. Having faith is not repentence.

>>7114

And it would do you good to stop saying that catholicism teaches that works save.

>>7110

Hypocrite.

>>7117

A hypocrite is not someone who corrects others it is someone who makes moral judgments about people. I don’t think you will go to hell for shitposting on the internet but libel goes the actual person.

“Take heed what you hear. In what measure you shall mete, it shall be measured to you again, and more shall be given to you.”

Again, modern defition of hypocrisy, of course where everyone ought to let the other one debase himself.

>>7110

>The only thing I told here is that libel and false representation should stop.

It is not libel or false representation to repeat the truth. Do you argue that the screencaps are false?

>Likewise, you cannot judge me for my work and only the Lord can.

But you, of course, reserve the right to judge others, and only inure yourself against judgement. This is why you are not a Christian. You grant yourself a privileged position above judgement and reproach even as you judge and condemn others.

>>7121

Bump

>>7121

Well, the evidence is that people were banned, I cannot deny that. However, the reasons a banned person will state for being banned after reading 'unspecified reason' are unlikely to be true.

If you made a thread on /christian/ calling out the cuckvol, you wouldn’t be banned for being against me, but for shitposting on /christian/. Because it is literally offtopic.

And stop doing this pathetic shit with bold letters, or do you need to grant yourself a privileged position on a board on which we are truly equal? What do you mean, insuring myself against judgment? If I am judged by humans, would I not be free of guilt until proven guilty?

>>7038

>And yes, I have banned the baptist for calling the Blessed Virgin 'some dead chick' once. And I don’t feel regret and could not.

I see my post is still lingering in your mind. The Truth has a bad habit about sticking around.

>>7127

>And stop doing this pathetic shit

Are you a NEET cuckvol? Because I swear you must have a hard time getting to the confession box with all the time you spend shitting up all the Christian boards with 1. Your shit moderation, I swear halfchan /b/ hall-monitors have a higher sense of decorum in their reasoning. 2. Constant need to defend yourself against rightfully placed accusations of mod abuse, on this board, which was created specifically because of (see point 1.), and your speg attempts to defend yourself is hilarious, because if you were rightfully grounded in The Truth you wouldn't see any need to defend yourself. But, because you are fairly consistent in defense of your egotistical actions, I see that you are not grounded in truth, whatsoever, you are grounded onto your self, and soon enough, God will send someone to come along to check your ego and deflate it as much as necessary. Just stop. You don't represent Christ, you represent the Pharisee.

>>7190

In the form of post history, innit.

Denial of the communion of saints (of which Mary is one of the few scriptural ones) = ban.

>>7199

What an stupid rule

Are you so insecure pf your beliefs that you have to ban everything that makes you doubt about it?

>>7202

Roman Catholic beliefs are founded on a lie. Light always overcomes darkness; the truth always overcomes a lie. Catholics therefore have to hide the candle of faith under a bushel.

>>7224

i like u

>>7014

>>7229

>>7199

What about Mary made her so special?

>>7251

giving birth to Jesus, but in no way that makes her as "special" as the roman church says,

>>7309

Eternal viginity

"Saint"hood

Assent into heaven with no death

Worship of her likeness

Almost holding her to the same level as christ.

I could go on..

>>7309

She's not. She's in the ground, in the grave.

>>7310

>>7312

Here we go

>>7389

>>7012

>that doesn't mean we need to forget

I'm of the opinion that we are all at the Lord's mercy because through his divine nature can he forgive people.

Since we are not divine, we can never truly forgive. It's like you said, people try to split forgive and forget, but I don't think you honestly ever do split them apart, either you forget the whole affair and truly forgive through niave proxy, or you remember and remember it enough to repeat the process of forgiving.

Only way I can see to forgive and forget is by having a new perspective ie I was mad because I didn't get to eat cookies from the cookie jar but now as an adult I know why I wasn't and I respect it.

So when something like that comes up where the perspective you would need to forgive involves viewing it in a non-Christlike lens, I don't think you can really forgive and can only pray and help them change their ways and ask the Lord for his mercy for your imperfect heart and for the sinner to grow spiritually

>>8173

why were you banned m8

>>8173

/christian/ is basically /catholic/ at this point. All the protestants and even Orthodox have been chased off due to bad moderation approaching the levels of /pol/. I remember when there was a "Say something nice about another denomination" thread and probably half of it was just Catholics complaining about Protestants or making joke compliments.

It's a shame, because there are occasionally really good threads, like the ones where we look at different religions and how to deal with them and such, and it's also where /hope/ got it's start. Now, though, I never want to go there because it's one of the spiteful boards on this site, which is a real "achievement" for a Christian board.

>>8190

And I find comments like this tiresome

>>>/christian/224355

>Don't bump this /leftypol/ bait thread, they are trying to harm this board by creating hostility between denominations. They only want to create a divide between us, because Christianity isn't leftist.

>implying outsiders are responsible for /christian/'s problems

>>8184

>/christian/ is basically /catholic/ at this point. All the protestants and even Orthodox have been chased off due to bad moderation approaching the levels of /pol/.

I think the main problem is that in fact catholics are the overwhelming majority of Christians in the world.

All those protties and Orthodox are on the other hand just used to being the majority themselve because they are concentrated in a couple of regions.

This leads to the inherent belief, especially among ameritards, that something has to be wrong with the board, but instead it is just the first time reality is depicted to them in a sufficient manner.

>>8190

>The point is, cuckvol was triggered and whipped out the banhammer as a result.

He says that he always takes posting history in consideration, so I am not surprised that he will when in doubt just ban you, because he dislikes your previous actions on the board.

>>8202

>Bavarian

?

I'm kinda Bavarian but you are most likely not here long enough to know that, so I guess you are mistaking me for someone else.

>It's very simple, really, follow along with me:

I do not think the numbers are accurate, especially among the 800mio protties there are sure enough to be excluded.

>I pulled the numbers directly from wikipedia

…is…this good or bad?

>… is just plain laughable. Now, I know you're just trolling. 86 million, m80, we're not THAT numerous.

I'd have to read into the, 300mio is the number I have in mind, but maybe this also includes the branches that split from you in the past.

>is beside the point because your claim was that catholics are the overwhelming majority of Christians in the world, whereas they represent, according to Wikipedia 50.1% (at most), according to Pew 50.1%, and according to International Bulletin 51.2%, which, according to the laws of exaggeration and hyperbole is not the same as an overwhelming majority, though it is a marginal majority. Conflabulations.

? Catholicism is still the single one largest in number denomination, since prottiedom is no denom, it is several times larger than all the contestants.

>well, that was your original point >>8194 (You) whereas I see now you think it means you should rule the globe

Oh, I meant both tbh

>polls have consistently denied that Catholics are even a majority on /christian/ (refer pics related), they're just the noisiest, most aggressive and most arrogant on the board.

Yeah, I don't know since I haven't been to the other board in months, but last year Catholics were about two thirds in the census thread.

Catholics are the majority here too btw if you look up our census thread.

>Yourself included, of course.

I am one of the noisiest, most aggressive and most arrogant users of /christian/ although I do not even use the board? Gee, I've got talent.

>SOURCES:

Wikipedia claims to be an encyclopedia, and a shitty one at that. Encyclopedias, however, are never a source, they rely on sources instead. Since wikipedia links to its "sources", you'd have to do the work and look those up, if you wanted to provide a proper source.

>>8194

It doesn't matter whether they're an overwhelming majority or not. They way they are acting is not Christ-like. Civil discourse has gone out the window. We are brothers in Christ, and our job is to go out into all the world and make disciples. We are called to love one another, just as Christ loved us.

For as much as the Catholics over there like to complain about Protestants that never stopped protesting, they're the ones still stuck in the Reformation mindset.

>>8212

> We are brothers in Christ

That's the point. Protestants are not just "brothers in Christ", they are a dangerous menace and seperated from the church and therefore Christ; I'd always like to say that a heretic is worse than ten pagans, because they will draw other people downwards with them, thinking that they are save. It is like a gigantic fraud, which is not surprising since the devil is the source of this "reformation" of yours.

>For as much as the Catholics over there like to complain about Protestants that never stopped protesting, they're the ones still stuck in the Reformation mindset.

Nothing has changed since then, rather the protestants became even more dangerous and messed up. While the initial Lutherans are kinda weird and have a wacky theology, they at least keep traditions and have some kind of venerable mass. But as to be expected it all went downwards from the start, just take a look at charismatics and baptists and all the other crazy stuff out there.

>>8194

even if true, a majority cannot crush a minority.

even if the majority of that sub is catholic he mod cannot ban when some disagrees, cmon man youre smarter than this

>>8220

your church officially thinks otherwise

>>8222

I understand 2,3,4; 1 was a little bit harsh

>>8227

>even if true, a majority cannot crush a minority.

This has to be a typo, amirite?

If not, this is an interesting topic that we can discuss with the cathars for eyample - oops

>even if the majority of that sub is catholic he mod cannot ban when some disagrees, cmon man youre smarter than this

Yes, I do not think that this is smart in this format, that's why I'm here.

>your church officially thinks otherwise

Where am I contradicting the Church?

>>8231

>Well, aren't you just the troll?

There's a single troll on h8ch ?

>Can we get some IDs up in this bitch so I can perma-filter some muthafuckers?

phew, we decided against it in the beginning, but you may ask in the moderation thread and desubong will listen.

>>8220

>Protestants are dangerous and separated from the church and therefore Christ.

This is the primary issue. You act as if your interpretation of scripture is the only possible one. Looks, one of us may be right. But that doesn't change the fact that we are both Christians. The thief on the cross next to Jesus certainly wasn't a part of the church, but he was saved.

>Heretics are worse than 10 pagans

Oh, so we're all heretics now for not conforming to what your precious bishop of Rome says? Are we all going to burn in hell? What about J.S. Bach, who left his comfy job to go work for an ungrateful Leipzig so he could write church music? Who signed his works with Soli Deo Gloria? What about Billy Graham as well, a person I'm not even aligned with denominationally? Are they burning in hell? Are these men less in Christ than the average Catholic?

>The devil is the source of the reformation

How so? You cannot deny that the Catholic Church was horribly corrupt at the time. Is it wrong for people to have wanted to read scripture in their own language? Or to question the existence of something like purgatory, which has no basis in the Bible?

>Nothing has changed since the reformation

Except everything has changed since the reformation. We can argue doctrine all day, but that doesn't change the fact that it is all Christians who are vilified now, and that this bickering accomplishes nothing for Christ. It is not heresy to have disagreements about scriptural interpretation. It shows an intellectual engagement that should be encouraged, not something to burn people at the stake for. While it saddens my heart that we disagree, this isn't unexpected or unnecessary.

>muh traditions of the church

Look, I'm Lutheran, right? I love the tradition. I love our mass. But saying to not have that is to not have a church? Do you think the church of Acts was concerned with following traditions to the letter? And look at everything they accomplished! The church is not the fucking building. It's not the bishops. It's not the priests. It's not baptism. It's not even Communion. The church is the Christians. It is the people.

KIKEVOL is confirmed excommunicated and anathematized from the Catholic Church per the canons of Lateran IV, just so you all know.

>>8242

and by based vatican II

>>8242

>confirmed excommunicated and anathematized from the Catholic Church per the canons of Lateran IV

please elaborate.

This interests me

>>8555

Well, he's a Jew posing as a Catholic, so he can't really be excommunicated and anathematized. But assuming he's a Catholic, see canon 3, "On Heretics" of Lateran IV. Some relevant quotes:

>Moreover, we determine to subject to excommunication believers who receive, defend or support heretics.

KIKEVOL banned me and deleted my posts on how Catharism/the Albigensian heresy is a heresy, which started me looking into Lateran IV, which was called partly in response to this heresy.

>Let therefore all those who have been forbidden or not sent to preach, and yet dare publicly or privately to usurp the office of preaching without having received the authority of the apostolic see or the catholic bishop of the place", be bound with the bond of excommunication and, unless they repent very quickly, be punished by another suitable penalty.

KIKEVOL contradicts the words of Popes and ecumenical councils constantly, much of which is documented here, and bans those who disagree.

If a Jew, then this is relevant:

>It would be too absurd for a blasphemer of Christ to exercise power over Christians. We therefore renew in this canon, on account of the boldness of the offenders, what the council of Toledo providently decreed in this matter : we forbid Jews to be appointed to public offices, since under cover of them they are very hostile to Christians.

Fun bonus canon:

>The more the Christian religion is restrained from usurious practices, so much the more does the perfidy of the Jews grow in these matters, so that within a short time they are exhausting the resources of Christians. Wishing therefore to see that Christians are not savagely oppressed by Jews in this matter, we ordain by this synodal decree that if Jews in future, on any pretext, extort oppressive and excessive interest from Christians, then they are to be removed from contact with Christians until they have made adequate satisfaction for the immoderate burden.

>>8557

Pure masochism.

Its one thing to complain about this man when he comes here to annoy us, but why even go there if this just keeps happening to you over and over, what's the point? It's his board, its been for a while. Alex might be the king but the "kikevol" is the acting PM and will likely continue to be.

Just stop going there.

Stop White Genocide

>>8558

>implying the KIKEVOL isn't Alex

I've only actually been banned twice for short periods. I mainly post about it to defend others.

>>8670

I'm pretty sure Alex is an early 20s Baptist, not a probably older European Catholic. Did this change? Is he lying on the front page?

>>8672

Could he be Catholic now? Did he convert and role play as the mod to deflect criticism?

I never saw him reign in his mod.

>>8673

most likely.

>>8845

i dont even go there anymore

to think that even leddit have more free speech than there is disgusting

>>8553

Cuckvol was always a fucking piece of shit; the most arrogant cockhead there ever was. His masturbation is found in his moderation, which isn't moderate at all. What a fucking joke.

>>8558

Cuckvol literally destroying the blossoming Christian community on 8chan.

I fucking called it.

Braco, cuckface, if you read this, I hope you now understand you're a true piece of shit and your fruit are evil. Remember? Judge it by its fruit. You are judged a piece of shit whose fruit smell like Satan, you absolutely worthless blasphemer.

Guys, if I may recommend anything to you, it's this: ask Goot to open /christian/ and pray to God he accepts. Only then will you have a chance. 8chan's type of moderation only favours dictatorships and bullshit.

Good luck to you guys. Let's pray cuckvol and his evil kind stop shitting on Our Lord with their bullshit.

I can't wait for this place to die.

>>8190

Fucking top kek.

CUCKVOL

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Still can't believe you guys didn't behead the fucker yet.

>>7120

>“Take heed what you hear. In what measure you shall mete, it shall be measured to you again, and more shall be given to you.”

Boy, aren't you in deep shit, eh?

>>7115

>And it would do you good to stop saying that catholicism teaches that works save.

First, you stop assuming that fucking little boys' assholes saves, then we'll comply. Deal?

>>7110

Who can stand this much masturbation from cuckvol? Seriously, this is obscene.

>these posts are from months ago

Holy fucking top kek. Are you guys all dead as shit?

>>8889

mental like people like him

roleplaying christians that thinks that fascism is good hot shit.

>>8908

well, many cases has come out with priests trying to banish and hide everything by any means because they dont want to face their sins and pride.

>>8910

Is it fun for you to do this? I'm not being snarky, I just want to understand. You (and other anons I guess) seem to hate the cuckvol as much as I do, dislike /christian/ as much as me or more and yet you enjoy going over there, knowing the outcome. Why?

Is it fun to challenge this man? Is there a thrill to going over there and mocking him and the people of the site?

I don't like cuckvol or /christian/, so I just don't go there. It used to be nice, and now it sucks, but its just a board and those are a dime a dozen, worthless and completely replaceable. Why do you do what you do?

>>8911

>Is it fun for you to do this? I'm not being snarky, I just want to understand.

No, and I appreciate your lack of snark. Thanks for asking. The vol won't. And even though Alex kinda asked, he'll never get to hear the answer 'cuz the vol keeps deleting anything we write.

Today I did some reading about King John of England, and it kinda coalesced some thoughts: /christian/ is England, King Alex of /christian/ has abandoned the place to go fight in the "crusades" of IRL, and he left his brother John in charge as king.

I'm going to change a few words (marked by italics) in contemporary quoted descriptions of the king and you tell me these don't sound familiar:

>The servants of a certain sheriff somewhere in Wales brought to the royal court a Cathbro. He had declared apostate all Protestants. John said, "He has bitch-slapped an enemy of mine, let him go."

>He was generous and liberal to cathbros but banhammered the rest. Since he trusted more in cathbros than in the rest of /christian/ he had been abandoned before the end by /christian/, and his own end was little mourned.

>The vol is far too hard on us. He takes our posts that are critical of him away if we do not obey his commands. He even bans us in case we rebel further against him.

So, anon, you say:

>You (and other anons I guess)

Yeah, to be clear, the posts in here are not all me.

>seem to hate the cuckvol as much as I do, dislike /christian/ as much as me or more and yet you enjoy going over there, knowing the outcome. Why?

>I don't like cuckvol or /christian/, so I just don't go there.

You almost got it perfect. Yes, I detest the reign of King Vol, but the difference between us is that I don't hate him, and I do not dislike /christian/. In fact, the reason I fight so hard for it is because I love the place. Or would, if I were allowed to. I loved what /christian/ was from Alex's first declarative statement: we've surfed the /int/s, the /b/s, the /pol/s but we're Christians, let's make a place for us. In the early, pre-resentment days, I came to /christian/ every single day with an almost missionary zeal. I wasn't there to troll cathodoxbros – I have Catholic friends, I know we will never see eye to eye, but that doesn't mean I don't consider them brothers – I wanted to help, kinda like how Alex views /hope/. I wanted to help nurture the young Christians, help those hurting, encourage the doubting and lost, BE an actual Christian. That was my goal for going there. See, my own church life is dead. Not that I don't go, but it's not a functioning family. There's no youth at all. I thought of /christian/ as a dysfunctional family of /b/tards all cobbled together, lightly trolling but not in a hurtful way. See, when /b/ trolls, when /pol/ trolls, especially when trolling Christians, it does it to hurt each other. In this, I loved Alex's vision.

I had hope /christian/ was the /b/ I'd been longing for for almost ten years of /b/tarding.

And, for a good while, it was. I posted some absolute zinger posts, and got quite a few people thanking me or "underrated post"-ing my posts. I was helping people understand and live the faith, and they appreciated it. And, at long last, I was there.

Then a new spirit moved-in about seven months ago and the first noticeable event was that the vol accidentally banned me but imperiously refused to admit it, even when he knew it, because, y'know, he's a mod, and mods are always right, even when they're wrong. And I know he knew it because the record of my ban was deleted; I assume because he didn't want me protesting to Alex about it. It incensed my sense of justice, but I wasn't about to abandon my Christian family of /b/tards because of an idiot mod.

continued in part 2

>>8913

>The vol won't

I’ve been on your thread.

>In fact, the reason I fight so hard for it is because I love the place

If you fight against me, that can’t be serious. Not a single post you screenshot in this picture has been reported. Why do I know this? Because I am a volunteer and you are a person who has been buttmad for more than six months.

>>8946

You ought to know by now that Alex does not consider the cuckvol to be an issue, he supports him as mod and, if anything, its you "malcontents" that are causing issue for the board.

Why persist? Make your own board.

>>8962

desubong is a d/int/du

What the f? I got banned from /Christian/ and the post it showed was something I never even wrote. How is this possible?

>>8979

I was preaching to the Gentiles.

>>8981

Don't. We're supposed to obey the laws of the land, 12th Article of Faith. /christian/ doesn't allow Mormons. You have to be in the First Presidency or an Apostle at least before you can openly ignore that.

>>8979

>>8981

tom? is that u?

>>8983

/Christian/ allows Mormons for one thing. And a rule of a message board is not really a law either. I don't think the articles of faith applies here.

That also doesn't explain how or why on earth I got banned for a post I didn't write.

>>8989

The guy without the flag might be tom. He doesn't wear a flag because he's just a larper now and not a real Mormon.

>>8991

>/Christian/ allows Mormons for one thing.

No, they do not. You may post without revealing you are Mormon, but you cannot advocate any religious view exclusive to Mormonism. The rules are quite clear. Ask the cuckvol.

>That also doesn't explain how or why on earth I got banned for a post I didn't write.

IP Mix up, clerical error, the mod deciding he just doesn't like you because you're a pagan? Who can say.

>>8992

I think the cuckvol is just scared of Mormons. I was posting in a thread about Mormonism for f's sake. I want to know the exact post that got me banned but he's too scared to even show me.

>>8993

Bro, he's not scared, he just doesn't like it. He believes Catholicism is the only truth, and its his personal mission to guide people to that truth. As a vol, he has to accept other Nicene Christians because the rules were set by Alex that way, regardless of how he feels.

But Mormonism is not Nicene Christianity. So he doesn't have to tolerate it in any way like he does with Protestantism. The base is also strongly supportive of this, and most people there believe Mormons cannot post there unless they are there to be preached to, never preach, and to learn about the "true Christ", never to advocate their Mormon Christ.

>I want to know the exact post that got me banned but he's too scared to even show me.

The culture is set up so that he's allowed to do that. Not enough people are bothered by the "unspecified reasons" ban, and so they will continue to be the norm until a few months when 8chan dies.

Just go on a mission. Or start a thread here. There's no good reason to go to that board.

The board was on its way to 500 active members until that cuck shut down all debate. He wanted a Catholic circle jerk and now look at that board.

CUCKVOL!!!!

>>8946

>post wild claims about someone causing division

>don’t realise you are actually causing division by this

Not sure if troll but not in any way is this christian behaviour

>>8992

>why on earth I got banned for a post I didn't write

Maybe stop using the hola botnet or just stop lying.

>>8996

Bro, I personally don't like him, that's clear, but this idea that he's "ruined" the board is just ludicrous. Sure, he brought a certain style of moderation that I didn't like and others didn't, but we were a significant and ultimately meaningless minority, hence why we're here and they are over there with several times the numbers. I think the sooner you accept this, the sooner you'll begin to focus your energies on more positive things.

The people of /christian/, everyone who posts there regularly and is not a troll or a shitpposter, the majority of the board, likes this specific vol. They like how he does his job, and they do not like you or those like you. There was and continues to be an alternative, and it has become the /christian/ complaint department (it wasn't always but it certainly is now!) because the vast majority of christians who come to 8chan like the way that this vol runs the show. They like it, they don't tolerate it or begrudgingly accept it while they wait for you or anyone else to save them from the tyrant, no, they like him and his style.

Accept it and move on.

>>8998

Ah, apologies, it might have been a rangeban. I have never been banned on 8chan and don’t know how stupid the system is. Other imageboards specify that it is a rangeban.

>>9001

>>8998

why you still keep coming back here?

>guaaaa people complain about me on the internet :(((((((

>>9000

boy youre new.

>>9004

Lol nigger I made this thread. Fuck outta here.

http://8ch.net/kjv/catalog.html

http://8ch.net/kjv/catalog.html

http://8ch.net/kjv/catalog.html

http://8ch.net/kjv/catalog.html

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/kjv/ is a board for Protestants and other religions to come along and discuss Christianity, theology and doctrine. Moderation is done appropriately and is objective. I don't delete post on the basis if I disagree with them but if they break the rules.

>>9012

Fuck off rulenigger

>>9013

Hardly. 4 rules.

1. No CP/Porn/Gore images

2. No trolling/shitposting

3. Relevant to Christianity

4. No excessive foul language

>>8917

>If you fight against me, that can’t be serious

Are you claiming to be /christian/'s boardvol? Is that your game?

Guess I'll never see a reply to that post. Anon's tend to flit into here, post their diatribes and go.

If you were, I would say this to you:

What manner or level of supreme arrogance does it require to believe that you and the board were the same thing?

>Not a single post you screenshot in this picture has been reported

Yeah, look, I have no idea what you're talking about.

None whatsoever. Look at the ban list. I'm banned.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Oh, are you referring to this pic? >>8914

None of those posts are reported? I guess protties don't go running to mummy when we get mad. :^)

>a person who has been buttmad for more than six months

Yeah, I guess I'll wear that, but it hardly hurts coming from you. You who mocked me the first time I got banned, you who apparently lacks even the smallest modicum of empathy, you who simply should not, should never have been, a mod.

>>8946

>>8956

>…can you even mention it

>>8958

>Wow, he literally went and deleted all my completely unrelated post in other threads

Yeah, he's in full-force self-defense mode. Anything that might expose him is being deleted. If Alex had even the slightest interest, I'm sure the deletes are in the board log.

>>9016

>that you and the board were the same thing

What level supreme buttmad do you have to always cry about my arrogance whilst not having any detectable level of reading comprehension? But I don’t blame you for not realising how idiotic it is to spam a board with what amounts to the peasant wars. You aren’t the vox populi, you are just noise, just like what >>9000 says.

> I guess protties don't go running to mummy when we get mad.

Actually it seems they ban evade and cry on /christian/ or run to /christ/ and cry there. If it is not reported don’t cry that it isn’t banned, or do you expect vols to read every single post?

Anyway, you’re moving the goalpost and it shows that you are an especially unsubtle troll or just a drama-whore who isn’t really interested in resolving a problem.

>>9004

The question is why other people keep coming back here.

>guaa people actually communicate on topic on imageboards and don’t just shitpost

And obviously this thread is somewhat entertaining to me, considering half of this thread is shitposters who cry because they can’t have the cake and eat it.

>>9027

… speaking of being buttmad …

>>8983

a total misunderstanding of scripture

anon should absolutely go over there and preach, if he is persecuted for His sake it is a blessing

if it's illegal to be a Christian and you decide to be a Christian regardless you will be blessed

>>9032

>anon should absolutely go over there and preach, if he is persecuted for His sake it is a blessing

Actually, you're right, I want to change my answer. He definitely should go there and preach that Adam is God, Heavenly Father was once a man who became (a) God, Mary was directly impregnated by said Divine Penis (and its Divine Semen) to produce Jesus, Indians are cursed Jews and Polygamy is just the bee's knees in heaven. That's what you mean he should preach over at /christian/, right?

Interesting how that works actually, in Mormonism, which is what the post was about hence the reference to exclusively Mormon scripture. Its fine to break the law if you're Joseph Smith, Dan Jones, Wilford Woodruff or anyone high up the Mormon Church, provided you have enough sway and you aren't too dumb about it. If you're dogmatic rather than pragmatic like the Bundys or John W. Taylor; and you haven't the proper influence; you'll get thrown under the bus each and every time, no matter what scriptures you use to support your acts.

>>9027

it pisses you off when peole talks about the shit youve done righ?

man, i enjoy narcissism.

>you have been banned from /christian/ for the following reason:

>go away d&c shill

>you've been banned for two weeks

>banned for the following post:

>Hate the sin, love the sinner

>>9205

Just fuck you. You know perfectly right that you werent just banned for this one post specifically but for having a different opinion every time

It is turning well then.