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The New Sodom/Babylon Anonymous 06/30/15 (Tue) 04:47:19 No.3150

Given the things that have happened recently, I think this should be the final straw.

If no-fault divorce, abortion, contraceptives, euthanasia, and pornography weren't enough, now we can add sodomite "marriage" to the list.

The United States can no longer call itself blessed by God.

If anything, we are most likely going to be chastised in the following years.

Of course, there's still time. We can repent, organize a mission to the Godless.

But, alas, it may very well be in vain.

For "their ears are uncircumcised, and they cannot hear: behold the word of the Lord is become unto them a reproach: and and they will not receive it." – Jeremiah 6: 10

Therefore, brethren. Let us gather the righteous and form our own place.

Let us be separated from the ungodly.

If that is not possible, then may we pray for God's will to be done.

If the United States must collapse as an example of what happens when a nation turns from God, so be it.

I welcome its burning, so that the righteous may be vindicated.

But be wary, my brethren!

There will be false prophets among you, who will declare peace, and there will be no peace!

Do not regard these charletans, rather, look to the Lord for guidance and virtue.

He will guide his people to better shores, whether on this earth or in the heavens.

Stay stalwart in faith, my brethren.

Combat the evils of the world as best you can.

The Lord protects and His Word abides.

Bibsi Yahoo 06/30/15 (Tue) 06:56:20 No.3167

>>3150

Get with the times man.

Nothing of this is bad, the world just starts to face the 21st century. It was guys like you that gassed the jews after all. Don't want that to happen again.

Christians and whites are anyway the majority and need to go.

Anonymous 07/01/15 (Wed) 02:09:33 No.3230

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>>3167

>Get with the times man.

ROMANS 12: 2

And be not conformed to this world; but be reformed in the newness of your mind, that you may prove what is the good, and the acceptable, and the perfect will of God.

You once again do service to your father, false Jew.

JOHN 8: 38-48

I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and you do the things that you have seen with your father. They answered, and said to him: Abraham is our father. Jesus saith to them: If you be the children of Abraham, do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill me, a man who have spoken the truth to you, which I have heard of God. This Abraham did not. You do the works of your father. They said therefore to him: We are not born of fornication: we have one Father, even God. Jesus therefore said to them: If God were your Father, you would indeed love me. For from God I proceeded, and came; for I came not of myself, but he sent me: Why do you not know my speech? Because you cannot hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. But if I say the truth, you believe me not. Which of you shall convince me of sin? If I say the truth to you, why do you not believe me? He that is of God, heareth the words of God. Therefore you hear them not, because you are not of God. The Jews therefore answered, and said to him: Do not we say well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?

You reject the Christ, and therefore you reject the Father.

JOHN 12: 44-49

But Jesus cried, and said: He that believeth in me, doth not believe in me, but in him that sent me. And he that seeth me, seeth him that sent me. I am come a light into the world; that whosoever believeth in me, may not remain in darkness. And if any man hear my words, and keep them not, I do not judge him: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that despiseth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him; the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father who sent me, he gave me commandment what I should say, and what I should speak.

Begone from this place, the blood of Christ is on your hands as your ancestors wished.

MARK 27: 24-25

And Pilate seeing that he prevailed nothing, but that rather a tumult was made; taking water washed his hands before the people, saying: I am innocent of the blood of this just man; look you to it. And the whole people answering, said: His blood be upon us and our children.

I know you're a shitposter, but I post these things that those who lurk may see the truth.

discipulus !qBzTcerKDk 07/02/15 (Thu) 13:15:26 No.3332

>>3150

>The United States can no longer call itself blessed by God.

The united states were never blessed by God at all. As if a freemasonic uprising against the divine order would have ever been…

>Therefore, brethren. Let us gather the righteous and form our own place.

>Let us be separated from the ungodly.

Like forming a Christian nation? I can hardly imagine that the international community would allow that.

>The Lord protects and His Word abides.

Sure… but it does not worklike faith=nothing can happen to you ever

Anyone that wanted to "fight the evils of the world" should expect to become a martyr or at least an outcast.

Anonymous 07/02/15 (Thu) 14:23:27 No.3347

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>>3332

>Anyone that wanted to "fight the evils of the world" should expect to become a martyr or at least an outcast.

>mfw I can't wait for this.

discipulus !qBzTcerKDk 07/02/15 (Thu) 14:27:14 No.3350

>>3347

I do not think that terrorism is really compatible with Christianity.

Also a war thats only legitimation was to force others to accept a certain opinion would not necessarily be righteous.

On a sidenote I do not consider war to be a funny thing that we should wish for. Necessary sometimes, sure. But nothing to be provoced or toyed with.

Clericus!SoD2XpuZlM 07/02/15 (Thu) 15:44:15 No.3363

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>>3332

>The united states were never blessed by God at all. As if a freemasonic uprising against the divine order would have ever been…

I wholeheartedly agree, but many would claim it was blessed by God.

Any false pretense they have of this should be shattered by now.

>Like forming a Christian nation? I can hardly imagine that the international community would allow that.

I care not for the squabbling opinions of the nations.

The Lord is my rock. His Will shall be done, Christian nation or otherwise.

>Sure… but it does not worklike faith=nothing can happen to you ever

I am aware, I welcome the mortification of the flesh.

It is not the protection of the flesh I speak of, but protection of the spirit.

>Anyone that wanted to "fight the evils of the world" should expect to become a martyr or at least an outcast.

To die for the Lord would be a gracious gift, as it was to so many brothers and sisters.

To be outcast from the nations for the Lord would be a blessing, as it was to the Desert Fathers and other monks.

>>3347

EPHESIANS 6: 12

For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places.

I seek not to fight the flesh, but to fight the devils and abominations of this world.

>>3350

Brother, we are already embroiled in war.

The armies of darkness gather at the gates of the Kingdom, only to be repelled by the Lord and His elect.

Anonymous 07/02/15 (Thu) 16:59:47 No.3379

>>3350

>terrorism

I'd argue than any action done in the name of Christ and with Just Cause is not terrorism, but righteous. Suppose then it would come down to whether one can find enough verses to support one's goal, or wait for the situation to become dire enough, at which point anything is justified.

>Also a war thats only legitimation was to force others to accept a certain opinion would not necessarily be righteous.

I don't know which war you're referring to, but what I'm excited for (admittedly, at least partially due to hubris and a martyrdom-wish) is the upcoming fight between believers of Christ and those who oppose them to live. That's why I think this is an inevitability, because the governments aren't simply permitting sin, they're praising sin and restricting righteousness and making it ever more difficult.

I think its our responsibility to the future Christians to fight for the right to do as we like, and to live the way Christ wanted us to live. This doesn't mean we should establish a theocracy for the keks, it means that we should fight for the right to exist, which is what currently is in dispute.

> Necessary sometimes, sure. But nothing to be provoced or toyed with.

They started it, and I wish they'd just allow us to have our way. But they wont, so either they'll die or we'll have to.

>>3363

Unfortunately, the fight of the flesh will come to you, and it is your prerogative how you will receive it. The spiritual warfare will intensify in the classrooms and false cults where the Devil will quote Scripture to suit his own needs and instill false doctrine into the hearts of our children. God bless and preserve you, tomorrow looks bleak.

Clericus!SoD2XpuZlM 07/02/15 (Thu) 17:05:08 No.3380

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>>3379

The Lord will guide me on how to receive combat of the flesh.

The Devil can use Scripture, but he uses it improperly. One with good grasp of Scripture can easily tear his arguments, as did Christ.

And fear not, my brother. It is always darkest before dawn.

Anonymous 07/02/15 (Thu) 17:27:45 No.3385

>>3380

>t is always darkest before dawn.

I certainly hope so. I'm deathly afraid for the future, though, and I also fear that God will judge us (me) negatively for our lack of action against these evils, even when they attack Him so fervently; and its likely to grow fiercer.

Secular faggot-marriage today, then tomorrow they'll force Churches to do the same and shut them down if they won't comply. Our tax-exempt status will go, they'll infiltrate our ranks, teach our Children to hate God's words in the schools and alienate us from modern society.

At that point, we'll have to go Amish, submit and be destroyed or fight back. I just hope God will reveal the correct choice when the time comes.

Clericus!SoD2XpuZlM 07/02/15 (Thu) 17:48:22 No.3391

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>>3385

> I'm deathly afraid for the future, though

With the Lord, there is nothing to fear.

>I also fear that God will judge us (me) negatively for our lack of action against these evils

We must do what we can.

Prayer is never fruitless, so we must always prayer, even if we cannot do more corporal works.

I see a time where the Church may go underground once again.

Mass in the catacombs, martyrs being killed in the name of the Lord, a new age of living the Gospel in a radical sense.

The Great Chastisement will come.

And we shall be tested as gold in fire.

discipulus !qBzTcerKDk 07/02/15 (Thu) 20:34:49 No.3421

>>3363

>I care not for the squabbling opinions of the nations.

>The Lord is my rock. His Will shall be done, Christian nation or otherwise.

Oh I will care if they bomb my family to death, pardon me, make a humanitarian intervention.

>pic

What monk is this? I mean from what order? I like the robe.

>Brother, we are already embroiled in war.

>The armies of darkness gather at the gates of the Kingdom, only to be repelled by the Lord and His elect.

Not really sure if we are in the end times.

>>3379

>I'd argue than any action done in the name of Christ and with Just Cause is not terrorism, but righteous. Suppose then it would come down to whether one can find enough verses to support one's goal, or wait for the situation to become dire enough, at which point anything is justified.

If I let this argumentation pass I essentially have to give absolution to ISIS and Al-Quaida.

>I think its our responsibility to the future Christians to fight for the right to do as we like, and to live the way Christ wanted us to live. This doesn't mean we should establish a theocracy for the keks, it means that we should fight for the right to exist, which is what currently is in dispute.

Of course.

>Catholics are born for Combat

-Pope Leo XIII

>>3385

> they'll infiltrate our ranks

This is what I am most afraid of. Unthinkable if someone would claim the papacy without being pope…

>>3391

Are you actually a Cleric?

Anonymous 07/02/15 (Thu) 20:43:22 No.3423

>>3421

>If I let this argumentation pass I essentially have to give absolution to ISIS and Al-Quaida.

I'm sure that's not a judgement that you'd take lightly. It is my opinion that they are wrong not because of their actions but because of their motives. They kill and die for a false god and a false creed, and that's messed up, but I can put myself in their shoes. Granted Islam allows for aggression much more early on that Christianity or Mormonism. If they were doing it for a proper creed they would be martyrs and be blessed by God. The killing of children when its not even close to necessary is unforgivable though.

>Catholics are born for Combat

>-Pope Leo XIII

These words should be spoken more often.

>This is what I am most afraid of. Unthinkable if someone would claim the papacy without being pope…

I thought it was destined to happen, eventually, as part of the events of Revelations and the coming of the Anti-Christ?

discipulus !qBzTcerKDk 07/02/15 (Thu) 20:50:58 No.3425

>>3423

>I'm sure that's not a judgement that you'd take lightly. It is my opinion that they are wrong not because of their actions but because of their motives. They kill and die for a false god and a false creed, and that's messed up, but I can put myself in their shoes. Granted Islam allows for aggression much more early on that Christianity or Mormonism. If they were doing it for a proper creed they would be martyrs and be blessed by God.

No. I disagree with them beyond them being muslims.

I also do this myself beyond being a Christian. I disagree with them as citizen, as a man and furthermost as a soldier.

What they are doing is inherently wrong, in practice and in theory.

>I thought it was destined to happen, eventually, as part of the events of Revelations and the coming of the Anti-Christ?

Many think so. Revelations is not quite clear on that or anything

Anonymous 07/02/15 (Thu) 20:59:38 No.3430

>>3425

>What they are doing is inherently wrong, in practice and in theory.

Fair enough. I wish that you'll never find yourself in a situation that would force you to rethink these beliefs.

>Revelations is not quite clear on that or anything

Yeah, that's the feel that I get whenever that book comes up. Either it already happened or its going to happen in the future or it can start again at any time, its a real diverse one, interpretation-wise.

discipulus !qBzTcerKDk 07/02/15 (Thu) 21:03:32 No.3432

>>3430

>Fair enough. I wish that you'll never find yourself in a situation that would force you to rethink these beliefs.

Faring war is one thing. Being a mindless animal or at least a savage another.

> Either it already happened or its going to happen in the future or it can start again at any time, its a real diverse one, interpretation-wise.

I think it's in the future. But I don't know if the end times have started yet.

Anonymous 07/02/15 (Thu) 21:12:58 No.3436

>>3432

Well, that's the thing. I don't think its wrong to kill, blow up buildings and raze villages under certain circumstances. In their case I see it as a preemptive strike; they see the world going one way, away from their view of proper Islam, and they fight to stem the tide. Islam allows that, but neither Christianity nor Mormonism would allow violence yet.

It would take more, what I believe is coming, for this to be ok. Like the government choking us and trying to remove Christian influence from this earth. I think of their videos where they execute people, and if it was the hypothetical secular authority who signed a (future) bill forcing churches to perform homosexual marriages in their temples or face consequences; and the trigger man was a righteous man of God not looking for riches or power, just to be allowed to practice and not loose his rights in this country, I'd find that righteous and inspiring.

>I think it's in the future. But I don't know if the end times have started yet.

The way things are going, and fast, I think we may be in the beginning or very close to it.

Clericus!SoD2XpuZlM 07/02/15 (Thu) 21:53:24 No.3444

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>>3421

>Oh I will care if they bomb my family to death, pardon me, make a humanitarian intervention.

My family is dear to me, as well.

To lose them would be a deft blow, but if it is out of my hands, I must take what has been handed on to me and react appropriately.

Whether that is silent prayer, inspiring crusaders, or taking up arms myself, the Lord shall guide.

>What monk is this? I mean from what order? I like the robe.

I'm not entirely sure.

Based on the color, he could very well be a Franciscan, or one of their derivative orders.

>Not really sure if we are in the end times.

The Spiritual battle will wage until the End Times.

Until then, we must persevere and fight the good fight.

>Are you actually a Cleric?

As it stands currently, I am not.

But the Lord has called me to seminary, and I shall go where He leads.

discipulus !qBzTcerKDk 08/04/15 (Tue) 17:24:44 No.5603

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I like this thread. Bump.

Anonymous 08/04/15 (Tue) 17:34:29 No.5609

>>3380

Doesn't the bible say not to touch human corpses and shit?

Anonymous 08/04/15 (Tue) 17:44:30 No.5613

>>5609

That sounds like Old Law stuff to me for health reasons. It would be odd if Ronny the Town Mortician were to go to Hell just for doing his unpleasant yet necessary Job.

discipulus !qBzTcerKDk 08/05/15 (Wed) 09:41:09 No.5625

>>3436

>I don't think its wrong to kill

Aren't Mormons KJV onlyists?

Exodus 20,13

Thou shalt not kill

I know that kill means murder here, I'm just messing around ;^)

>>3444

I always get sad when reading these old threads.

We've had so many decent people here that left, in fact I liked everyone o far. Clericus would have been a great addition to us ;_;

>>5609

>Doesn't the bible say not to touch human corpses and shit?

Sounds like levitical law to me.

>>5613

This.

Anonymous 08/05/15 (Wed) 16:57:26 No.5627

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>>5625

>Aren't Mormons KJV onlyists?

Nah. Its the "preferred" translation for English, but other versions are allowed. Its not like *any* Bible translation today is perfect or anything. I think Joseph Smith did say the "German Bible" was the most accurate translation, but I can't remember if he referred to a specific one (certainly not the Luther Bible, I know that much) or simply that the German language allows for a level of specificity and detail that other languages do not.

>Clericus would have been a great addition to us ;_;

I know that feel bro. But if nobody keeps the board active, then nobody comes.

discipulus !qBzTcerKDk 08/05/15 (Wed) 18:54:14 No.5636

>>5627

> or simply that the German language allows for a level of specificity and detail that other languages do not.

It does, but is certainly inferior to latin in this regard.

>I know that feel bro. But if nobody keeps the board active, then nobody comes.

Yes, I am less active because I'm occupied irl recently more. It gets rather silent here from time to time.