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 No.3655

>If the claims of the papacy cannot be proven from what we know of the historical Peter, there are, on the other hand, several undoubted facts in the real history of Peter which bear heavily upon those claims, namely:

That in the Council at Jerusalem (Acts 15:1–11), Peter appears simply as the first speaker and debater, not as president and judge (James presided), and assumes no special prerogative, least of all an infallibility of judgment. According to the Vatican theory the whole question of circumcision ought to have been submitted to Peter rather than to a Council, and the decision ought to have gone out from him rather than from "the apostles and elders, brethren" (or "the elder brethren," 15:23).

That Peter was openly rebuked for inconsistency by a younger apostle at Antioch (Gal. 2:11–14). Peter’s conduct on that occasion is irreconcilable with his infallibility as to discipline; Paul’s conduct is irreconcilable with Peter’s alleged supremacy; and the whole scene, though perfectly plain, is so inconvenient to Roman and Romanizing views, that it has been variously distorted by patristic and Jesuit commentators, even into a theatrical farce gotten up by the apostles for the more effectual refutation of the Judaizers!

That, while the greatest of popes, from Leo I. down to Leo XIII. never cease to speak of their authority over all the bishops and all the churches, Peter, in his speeches in the Acts, never does so. And his Epistles, far from assuming any superiority over his "fellow-elders" and over "the clergy" (by which he means the Christian people), breathe the spirit of the sincerest humility and contain a prophetic warning against the besetting sins of the papacy, filthy avarice and lordly ambition (1 Pet. 5:1–3). Love of money and love of power are twin-sisters, and either of them is "a root of all evil."

 No.8258

i think catholics are extreme legalists with no respect for holy mystery.

they have twisted the position that rome historically respected as 'first among equals' to mean they have divine authority…they claim to be the 'early church' …this is false as things were decided in synods.

they claim to have written the bible…when it was first in greek


 No.8520

Catholics are ones who hold the traditions of men over the law of God, the people Jesus spent most time speaking out against.


 No.8521

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>>3655

Let's be real here. Do you really think that Catholics would be so dumb as to have one of the most important characters in their mythos, Peter, not support the tradition which they espouse? Catholics/Orthodox compiled the Bible, they knew fully well from the beginning what kind of religion they were building and used the documents which support their claims, which is the entirety of the Bible.

You could be using literally anything else; historical records (or lack thereof), non-canonical gospels, and you pick the one compilation that is the epitome of Cathortodox doctrinal construction.

How does any of this begin to make any sense? How do you logically arrive at this conclusion from the beginning instead of accepting Luther/Calvin/Anderson first and trying to retrofit everything else in second?


 No.8527

>>8521

>what is the donation of constantine

Do you really think that Catholics would be so dumb as to have one of the most important documents in their mythos, the donation of constantine, not support the tradition which they espouse?

>Anderson

are you talking about steven anderson?


 No.8532

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>>8527

>A forged document which gives them authority

Eerily familiar to this other one, no?

Anyways, again, how does it make sense that a person thinks its reasonable to try and use the Bible against Catholics when they compiled it in the first place, picking and choosing only the gospels which agreed with their beliefs?

>are you talking about steven anderson?

Yes. Notice the slash, so I don't know whether you like him or not, but some protestants do, so that's why I slashed him in.


 No.8533

>>8532

Perhaps because Catholic dogma drifted since then.


 No.8549

>>8521

>skipping the comments he didn't like


 No.8551

>>8549

Which one is that?




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