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>>6682

Unrelated question: why are gays historically attracted to theatre? Are they attracted to the fantasy of being someone else, or of playing the role of a woman?

>>6685

I think historically, at least in western society, artists and actors have always been degenerates in one way or another. Even in our day and age when these people get millions of dollars for their work, a lot of them are just morons or very steeped in ridiculous behavior.

The way I see it, like is drawn to like. At the very least one can't deny that the usual roustabouts, ruffians and riff-raff of the theater don't have any moral high ground to chide gays, and frankly would be less susceptible to the sins of spiritual pride than someone more moral.

>>6686

I disagree.

I think since its part of the arts, artists always want to be on the last wave so it gets very progressive. It also works as a way to put thoughts push movements

>>6687

That's a very recent phenomenon though, its acceptance as a "progressive" value. Meanwhile, the drugs, sexual promiscuity, flimsy relationships, strange beliefs and occasional violence are still very much a part of that culture, and for the vast majority of history homosexuality was lumped up with them. Still is by some of us.

Were what you say the case, many artists would have made big deal out of their homosexuality in ages past when it could lead in loss of life and limb, or at the very least of career, but they didn't. They tried really hard to conceal it just like celebrities today try to conceal their degeneracy, except for the occasional purposeful public indiscretion because, as some kind of self-fulfilling prophecy, people expect actors to be degenerate (because they often are) and in a sense enjoy that.

>>6688

I disagree again.

The arts have always been on the cutting edge. Even the manerists like El Greco were criticized because of their degeneracy, and now those who call on degeneracy find Grecos work as classics.

That today's famous people are degenerate have more to do with the showmanship than with the arts

>>6695

>That today's famous people are degenerate have more to do with the showmanship than with the arts

>That today's famous people are degenerate have more to do with the showmanship than with the arts

>The arts have always been on the cutting e

These statements contradict eachother.

Anyways, the fact that artists are almost always attention seekers, grand-standers, pretender and reject tradition is not in question. They are, and usually degenerate too; this is a moral category that cannot change. Gauguin will always be an adulterer and a degenerate, despite his talent and popularity.

The question was though, is there something about the arts that attracts gays, and you seem to think that, at the very least, they use their sin as a tool to garner the attention and achieve the edge that art inherently rewards and grooms.

>>6697

They would if art= show

Which many people don't think it is. But I hold an extreme position in art theory so my views on it its quite rare.

Well I think what attracts gays to art is just the medium. You cannot have pro gay science, so they use art as to vent.

What do you think of Francis Bacon? I made a couple of webms with some of his christian related work.

>>6698

>You cannot have pro gay science, so they use

art as to vent.

That's pretty reasonable.

>Francis Bacon

His contributions to science are pretty sound. Made up the whole scientific method on his own if my High school teachers are correct (don't think it was quiet as simple as that).

As far as his religious views or writings go, I'm not familiar. Share the webms.

>>6699

I'm talking about Francis bacon the painter kek

His webms are in the art thread on the catalog.

>>6700

Oh lel. I'm not an artsy character in the least, never had much appreciation for it truth be told. I'll check them out regardless, though I might have seen them already when I checked out your art thread.

>>4586

>Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal?

- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

- http://elitedaily.com/news/world/homophobic-men-aroused-gay-male-porn-surprised/

>Homophobia is more pronounced in individuals with an unacknowledged attraction to the same sex and who grew up with authoritarian parents who forbade such desires, a series of psychology studies demonstrates. The study is the first to document the role that both parenting and sexual orientation play in the formation of intense fear of homosexuals.

- http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120406234458.htm

Is there anything you'd like to tell us?

>>6773

Again? Topkek.

Invite people to come here with us.

Before the hotpocket mod comes here again to bitch out :^)

>>6775

And you will be banned for it.

>>6776

Was there any reason for this particular thread? Did you mess with someone's feelings again ;^)?

>>6775

do what i do when i post on other board, use /christ/ as your name.

>>6776

hi mod.

>>6777

too much incense maybe ? :^)?

>>6780

Dank oc

This place only need more users, those at the other board needs to realise the shitty moderation is killing the place.

If you want to discuss something here just do it. Dont wait till some one does it for you.

>>6781

The largest problem with 8chan is that exit is damn difficult, especially since board owners ban all mention of alternative boards. I do hope more people move to /christ/ - it's not impossible, /ggrevolt/ has been gaining steam.

>>6781 >>6782

Indeed shitty moderation is killing the board. Proven with this one.

Daily reminder that if you want to revolt, you are a shitty christian.

>>6777

Fuck, what do I know. Literally the same cancer as on /christian/ is the reason why /christ/ is shit.

>>6783

its your fault m8

>>6784

Non sequitur.

>>6785

Like God just because you dont see Him doesn't mean He isn't there.

>>6786

He doesn't tho

>>6787

My fedora friend. Why do you blind yourself on purpose?

>ITT /christian/ visitors

>(a) to bitch about hotpockets on /christian/,

>(b) be mods on /christian/ justifying their bans and repeating that tired maymays about schismatics

>>6831

Disgruntled shitposters and gamergate mentality founded this board, what do you expect?

>>6841

You're a disgrace to Holy Mother Church, CUCKVOL.

>>6841

>Disgruntled shitposters

You keepsaying this, but point me to where they are please? They most likely could even post here, but all I've seen so far is a high quality board.

>>6859

Cuckvol deleted a thread I made Monday night which was literally just posting the first four chapters of Romans and explaining that salvation is by faith, not works. He deleted the Bible because it triggered his Catholicism. The next day I posted in another thread that, according to Catholic works theology, many Catholics are burning in hell for failing to meet their own standards. He banned me for that. Then I went on Tor and told everyone he banned me for being sola fide. And he shut off Tor for the whole board. Then I just got around that and kept posting sola fide and sola scriptura, and made an anti-cuckvol demanding that he either stop deleting the evidence when he bans people or change the rules that Protestantism isn't allowed. Then he started freaking out and banning other people too. Guess he thought they were all me. To a liar the truth is frightening.

>>6884

just tell people to come here

>>6884

>And he shut off Tor for the whole board

Nah, I said I would if you don’t stop shitposting with it.

>then he started freaking out and banning other people too. Guess he thought they were all me. To a liar the truth is frightening.

a) this is not true b) how’d you know if I bandelete?

Good though that you admit that you were banevading. If I banned others, they shilled /christ/

>He deleted the Bible because it triggered his Catholicism

Stop giving false testimony.

>>6891

At this point you're such an outlandish caricature of a terrible hotpocket that I have to assume you're some kind of leftist edgelord trying to make the Church look bad.

>>6917

>why don't Roman Catholics believe in it

That’s a misrepresentation and you will go to hell for such lies.

>>6950

Says who, says where?

Isn't making a false claim over a false claim a false claim?

>>6973

False testimony = sin

If he does not repent it = hell

>>6982

>False testimony = sin

>If he does not repent it = hell

>b-but we're totally not works salvation deus vult

Papist

>>7065

>confession=works

Idiot.

>>7071

Yes its a work.

>>7073

Let me phrase it otherwise: conversion is a fruit of grace, so man cannot repent out of his own force. That’s why we should ask Christ to give us insight for repentence.

Likewise, if we cannot forgive someone, we should ask God to help us to find forgiveness.

>>7076

If I have a gift to give you, but I tell you you have to go and do A, and then go do B in a specific building, and then you have to go and do C someplace else, and with some other people you have to do D, and you must change your habits to reflect E; is it really a free gift I'm giving you?

Was not the theif on the cross saved by faith alone?

>>7086

The thief on the cross accepted the real presence and probably heard about Jesus for the first time though. He confessed his sins before that AND realised that Christ is unblemished.

“And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong”

However Christ came to call the sinners to repentence. And doing the will of the Father (= works) is the other aspect of Christianity. Likewise you have no safety and Jesus did not personally tell you that you will be in paradise. The only promise Christ gave is that he will judge where judgment is due.

Your pretence is wrong that heaven is something we earn by saying a sentence as if Christianity required some sort of Shahada. Christ earned us a way to heaven, the way and door to which is Christ himself. You are not alone though because he has ministers who in His name “cast out demons and [absolve of] sins”.

Heaven isn’t free, life is free.

>>7092

>Heaven isn’t free, life is free.

Actually life you have to work for; if a man doesn't work he won't eat. Heaven is a free gift from my Father. Amen, praise God for his glorious mercy.

>And doing the will of the Father (= works) is the other aspect of Christianity.

Yet again you will claim that you don't believe in a works salvation.

Are all papists such liars?

>>7150

Cooperation with Christ is necessary.

Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.

That confirms that a) the faithful are subject to the decalogue and b) that priests who are sinners can still do things in Christs name but will not go to heaven, c) it is not just 'random good works' that is important but actually doing the will of the Father.

Believing and trusting in God also means not

>Amen, praise God for his glorious mercy.

Words said in vain and unrepentence and you—as always— cherrypick a sentence instead of addresing everything.

>Actually life you have to work for

“Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes?

Behold the birds of the air, for they neither sow, nor do they reap, nor gather into barns: and your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are not you of much more value than they?”

That shows how much sense for the faith you have.

>>4597

>once again, proving that the Bible obviously opposes homosexual behavior.

Why do you need to do this?

The Bible is so obvious on the issue that there shouldnt even be people suggesting otherwise.