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Exorcism OoLF !!EmXaPcEUcU 08/15/15 (Sat) 12:49:28 No.5847

What do you think of exorcisms and demonic possession?

http://tribune.com.pk/story/435165/exorcism-boom-in-poland-sees-magazine-launch/

It's on the rise everywhere and this is partly due to the fact that we are now able to differentiate mere mental illness from potential possession (or actual possession, in the case of unexplained phenomena, such as levitation, projectile vomitting of substances that weren't inside the person before a session, such as nails, or the sudden ability to speak Latin, Aramaic, ancient Greek, etc).

I've read pic-related many years ago and was thoroughly impressed, though it gave me the impression of being well-written fiction rather than an account of facts. Father Martin is a special father to be sure, but that doesn't mean he was necessarily a liar. Your opinion on him is welcome.

Exorcisms are practiced by many non-Catholics and those work as well, is this proof that the Church of Christ is not restricted to one denomination? Is the whole idea of possession a lie?

Do the possessed carry any responsibility for their possession? Martin suggests that they do, that nobody gets possessed without responsibility, while the possessions in the Bible do not suggest any responsibility at all, and no biblical possessed person is ever reproached on their possession.

Also, what is the purpose, for a demon, to possess humans? I've heard that they basically want to feel carnal pleasure again.

Can human spirits possess live humans? Is this restricted to demons?

What is the best evidence we have for the existence of demons and the devil?

ITT: exorcisms and demons. Dump all you have, too.

OoLF !!EmXaPcEUcU 08/16/15 (Sun) 10:48:48 No.5902

Bump.

discipulus !qBzTcerKDk 08/16/15 (Sun) 14:48:01 No.5910

>>5847

What's the difference to the other demon thread we have? Isn't it the same topic?

> exorcisms and demonic possession?

Real and necessary and frightening.

>I've read pic-related many years ago

Would you recommend it?

>Exorcisms are practiced by many non-Catholics and those work as well, is this proof that the Church of Christ is not restricted to one denomination?

No, even heretics can exorcise in the name of Christ, this does not mean that they are no heretics and afaik Catholic exorcisms are well recognised all around the world.

Matthew 7,22

Many will say to me on that day,o ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?Then I will declare to them solemnly, ‘I never knew you.* Depart from me, you evildoers.

> I've heard that they basically want to feel carnal pleasure again.

Again? Did they in the past?

>Can human spirits possess live humans? Is this restricted to demons?

What's a human spirit?

>What is the best evidence we have for the existence of demons and the devil?

Death.

OoLF !!EmXaPcEUcU 08/16/15 (Sun) 15:04:32 No.5912

>>5910

>What's the difference to the other demon thread we have? Isn't it the same topic?

This one is about exorcism in particular.

>Would you recommend it?

It's a great read and might scare the shit out of you. Yes, I recommend it. I don't know how much of it is really true, but it is nonfiction. You will enjoy it a lot, and you will be scared.

>Many will say to me on that day,o ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?Then I will declare to them solemnly, ‘I never knew you.* Depart from me, you evildoers.

Applicable to Catholics too.

>Again? Did they in the past?

If they are human spirits, yes. Otherwise, maybe. The Nephilim and all that stuff.

>What's a human spirit?

A disincarnate human soul roaming the earth. I find it odd that Christianity doesn't address this phenomenon (to my knowledge), despite the overwhelming evidence that ghosts are a thing.

>Death.

Just because we die doesn't prove the devil or demons. I know what you mean but that's not the sort of evidence I was asking for.

discipulus !qBzTcerKDk 08/19/15 (Wed) 08:52:56 No.5974

>>5912

>This one is about exorcism in particular.

>It's a great read and might scare the shit out of you. Yes, I recommend it. I don't know how much of it is really true, but it is nonfiction. You will enjoy it a lot, and you will be scared.

Any other good reads on it? Is there something like a Church manual for Exorcists?

>Applicable to Catholics too.

Indeed.

>If they are human spirits, yes. Otherwise, maybe. The Nephilim and all that stuff.

>A disincarnate human soul roaming the earth. I find it odd that Christianity doesn't address this phenomenon (to my knowledge), despite the overwhelming evidence that ghosts are a thing.

The dead are not haunting the living. I think there is even some bible verse saying that if anyone knows which one I mean, pls post

Tell me about the overwhelming evidence please.

>Just because we die doesn't prove the devil or demons. I know what you mean but that's not the sort of evidence I was asking for.

I understand what you mean. But if we take it for granted that the Christian God exists, then the existence of some evil force is a necessity as the state of the world is atm.

But not necessarily the classical devil that we know of, this is true.