Was Jesus a Buddhist?

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Was Jesus a Buddhist? Anonymous 09/17/15 (Thu) 04:04:03 No.6272

How come the Buddha had better powers than Jesus? Did Jesus learn from Buddhists? Not only was he abiding in pure bliss of nirvana but here are some of the things attributed to him.

>That Blessed One enjoys the various kinds of supernormal power: having been one, he becomes many; having been many, he becomes one; he appears and vanishes; he goes unhindered through a wall, through an enclosure, through a mountain, as though through space; he dives in and out of the earth as though it were water; he walks on water without sinking as though it were earth; seated cross-legged, he travels in space like a bird; with his hand he touches and strokes the moon and sun so powerful and mighty; he wields bodily mastery even as far as the Brahma-world.'

Anonymous 09/17/15 (Thu) 10:55:22 No.6280

>>6272

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4FGh6cMHB8

Anonymous 09/17/15 (Thu) 11:13:49 No.6281

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>>6280

>buddhists are atheists and idolators

>nirvana is just death and annihilation and nothingness

>big bang didn't happen

full kek

Anonymous 09/17/15 (Thu) 14:51:03 No.6299

>>6272

I'll bite. The difference is, why should I believe that this really happened?

Anonymous 09/17/15 (Thu) 19:33:14 No.6300

>>6299

It says so in scripture. And if you refer to timothy he said all scripture is God breathed, ipso facto its true.

Now u say but that's Buddhist scripture! So what? Show me the inspired table of contents in the bible that defines what is and isn't scripture.

Check m8

Anonymous 09/17/15 (Thu) 19:38:29 No.6301

>>6300

>Check m8

Yeah you've beaten Protestantism m8. Now let's try to do the same with Christianity:

Ooops

Anonymous 09/17/15 (Thu) 19:51:40 No.6303

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I dislike the mislead Pastor Schmanderson, but this Sermon is kind to the point.

Anonymous 09/17/15 (Thu) 20:34:52 No.6304

>>6303

>talks about monks setting themselves on fire

>conveniently leaves out the reason, the protest against violent government, the context…

That's pretty dishonest of him. That's like saying Jesus just committed suicide look he even said "no one takes my life but I give it freely"…without context its just misleading.

That video was posted already its the first post in this thread and its full of inaccuracies. Its like listening to /r/atheism "disprove" Christianity using god of the gaps and flying spaghetti monster analogies

Anonymous 09/17/15 (Thu) 21:29:37 No.6306

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>>6300

Nice dubs. If these are seriously your standards, you're going to be the easiest convert I've ever had. Bring your best clothes and meet me at the sikret/christ/ during the next full moon. The password is Kolob

I knew this was bait and bad one. I knew, and yet I responded.

Anonymous 09/18/15 (Fri) 02:03:00 No.6323

>>6304

Not the same at all because Jesus was divine, not a simple human being, there is no comparison of some monk being deceived into killing himself and the plan of God almighty.

If you murder yourself just to prove a point I'm sorry but that's fucking retarded. Those monks who killed themselves didn't even achieve their goal, it was all for nothing. Anyone who supports such an action is morally destitute, and it's literally an act of ultimate cuckoldy

>"hurr im opposed to this oppression so im just gonna kill myself"

>"k den"

Anonymous 09/18/15 (Fri) 02:36:18 No.6324

>>6323

Whether he believes it's justified or not isn't the question, he should have given the context of their actions to let the audience decide.

>Not the same at all because Jesus was divine

If an action is sinful in itself it's actually worse for a divine being to do it than a human. So if you're saying self-sacrifice is always wrong you have a theological problem.

Anonymous 09/18/15 (Fri) 05:44:41 No.6326

>>6304

>That's pretty dishonest of him. That's like saying Jesus just committed suicide look he even said "no one takes my life but I give it freely"…without context its just misleading.

Jesus did not commit suicide. He did not nail himself on the cross.

If those monks were lighted on fire by government forces and refused to defend themselve I'd say fine. But that was not the case.

It was also a sucking form of protest, because it accomplished nothing. As was to be expected.

>>6323

>Not the same at all because Jesus was divine, not a simple human being,

Jesus was fully human and fully God.

>>6324

> So if you're saying self-sacrifice is always wrong you have a theological problem.

Suicide is wrong, so we can call self sacrifice in form of suicide wrong. The sacrifice on the cross was not suicide but committed freely. It was not wrong.

Again, these monks are not even martyrs of their faith, they are just idiots.

Protest against government and get shot= martyr

Do the work of the government yourself=nuts

Anonymous 09/18/15 (Fri) 08:25:18 No.6334

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>>6326

>Again, these monks are not even martyrs of their faith, they are just idiots.

But that's wrong.

The demonstrations started June 1963 which lead to international attention, huge pressure on the government and finally a coup which toppled the government 5months later…

Photographs of his self-immolation were circulated widely across the world and brought attention to the policies of the Diệm government. John F. Kennedy said in reference to a photograph of [a Monk] on fire, "No news picture in history has generated so much emotion around the world as that one."

Anyway even if the consequences weren't favorable and useful their actions would still be justifiable since the intentions were aiming at the Good and not-selfish.

Anonymous 09/18/15 (Fri) 11:38:54 No.6337

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>>6334

>The demonstrations started June 1963 which lead to international attention, huge pressure on the government and finally a coup which toppled the government 5months later…

Yeah a military coup installing the beloved U.S. puppet regime, marvellous. You can thank the CIA for that, not a random monk, he was just a tool and if it was not on him one would have found another. They will always find reasons to persecute Catholics, it is just what we are meant to be.

Which was also the actual reason for the coup, they wanted to get rid off the screwed U.S. influence, so the U.S. got rid of Christianity. Americans have always been dirty opportunists.

And the result? Not only the end of Christianity, but also the end of the puppet regime in Saigon and the victory of communism and the Vietcong. All this damn glory!

>Anyway even if the consequences weren't favorable

They were useless, but even if we assume they weren't: No the consequences were least favorable.

> their actions would still be justifiable since the intentions were aiming at the Good and not-selfish.

No this is not how morals work. Maybe buddhist pseudo morals, ok.

The path to hell is full of good intentions, not making a single one of them less wicked.

Anonymous 09/18/15 (Fri) 14:22:45 No.6343

>>6324

Suicide is not self-sacrifice. Suicide is an expression of mental illness.

Suffering for days and then dying a very painful death for the sins of the whole world, that's sacrifice.

And Jesus didn't commit suicide, he was killed, murdered.

Anonymous 09/18/15 (Fri) 14:29:31 No.6344

>What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

>For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Your body belongs to God, destroying your body is rebelling against God. Suicide is as murder.

Anonymous 09/18/15 (Fri) 15:44:15 No.6351

>>6343

Couldn't it be said that since Jesus was perfectly capable of preventing his death he did commit suicide? He could have flown away or just made himself impervious but went ahead with it anyway.

Can you think of a situation with a man who, effortlessly able to prevent his own death, elects not to and that not be considered suicide?

Anonymous 09/18/15 (Fri) 16:31:22 No.6352

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>>6351

There's a difference between "committing suicide" the way that some desperate person would and willingly sacrificing and allowing one's body to be tortured till physical death for the sins of ALL mankind.

Anyways, the point is moot since He is risen and the Atonement exists. Once again Jesus the Christ is the exception to the rule.

Anonymous 09/18/15 (Fri) 16:42:14 No.6354

>>6351

>Can you think of a situation with a man who, effortlessly able to prevent his own death, elects not to and that not be considered suicide?

>be Christian in 1st century

>enter Roman centurio

>"worship the caesar or die"

>tell him to screw himself

>get murdered

>be martyr

>rewarded with heavenly kingom

>neverending profit

Anonymous 09/18/15 (Fri) 21:40:46 No.6360

>>6337

Problem is Pastor Anderson withheld information when describing the event, making it seem like monks kill themselves superstitiously like some sort of offering for no reason, or for good luck.

Its just very misleading, specially since it was in a time of great conflict and it drew attention to their plight (as the monks intended), and like John F. Kennedy said that picture of the burning monk drew more emotional appeal from thr world than any other in news history.

We can argue about what makes an action moral and how good intentions are necessary but that's besides the point. Pastor Anderson should be more honest, he misled his audience.

Anonymous 09/19/15 (Sat) 06:40:00 No.6366

>>6360

>Problem is Pastor Anderson withheld information when describing the event, making it seem like monks kill themselves superstitiously like some sort of offering for no reason, or for good luck.

Which it was.

>Its just very misleading, specially since it was in a time of great conflict and it drew attention to their plight (as the monks intended), and like John F. Kennedy said that picture of the burning monk drew more emotional appeal from thr world than any other in news history.

Yeah, we should draw our conclusions about the events that lead to a U.S. puppet regime from the US president.

This stuff and anti chinese propaganda is the only reason that buddhism is so popular in the west. We can thank the CIA for that, not some wibbly wabbly spirituality or teachings.