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>>6313

So he's punishing me for not being enlightened?

>>6315

"no"

if God wasnt real we still would have the bad stuff, God help us cope it.

>>6318

>>6318

>if God wasnt real we still would have the bad stuff

of course.

but enlightenment is always the answer.

let God worry about God.

>>6311

>If Jesus died for our sins why does god still allow bad stuff to happen?

Because the devil is the ruler of this world and God's Kingdom yet to come.

>>6319

>but enlightenment is always the answer.

No, thinking so you are quite full of yourself.

>>6327

without enlightenment people will make fallible and incorrect choices that lead to more suffering.

>>6328

First of all there is no "enlightenment", what shall this even mean?

Secondly bad choices and suffering are part of life. Like good choices and rejoicement. The idea of avoiding one of those is absolutely childish, more dreaming than thinking it would actually be hellish.

Rather people need to learn coping with reality, then this "suffering" is no problem anymore.

>>6331

>>6331

>First of all there is no "enlightenment"

Nirvana. extinguishment of ignorance/delusions/false views/harmful attachments

>>6333

>Nirvana. extinguishment of ignorance/delusions/false views/harmful attachments

Extinguishment of the self. You are striving for death man. I mean this is literally so disturbing, I don't know what to say to that.

How can you think that ending your own existence is positive?

It is not, you are meant to live and exist, you are meant to enjoy the never ending feast that is heaven.

Of all the shortcomings that men can fall into I have feared apathy, lazyness,vain,acedia ,call it whatever you want, the most. Now you tell me that it is a virtue to be worshipped.

No it is not. Attachment is meant to be, you are meant to care and to suffer and to try.

This world was created as a paraise and we can still observe this heritage in it today. That's why Buddhism is wrong, like Hinduism, Jainism, New Age stuff and all the others.

>>6335

>>6335

>Extinguishment of the self. You are striving for death man.

Buddha said nirvana is not annihilation. The metaphors used to describe nirvana are ones of freedom, lasting happiness and bliss.

>Attachment is meant to be, you are meant to care and to suffer and to try.

I was referring to harmful attachments. There are useful attachments that promote the path to peace.

>This world was created as a paraise and we can still observe this heritage in it today.

Even your theology says this world is fallen and thus unsatisfactory.

Buddhism has many heaven realms that you can enter. They might last billions and billions of years but none of them are permanent, the only permanent bliss is nirvana.

>>6336

>Buddha said nirvana is not annihilation.

>a ​state of ​freedom from all ​suffering that Buddhists ​believe can be ​achieved by ​removing all ​personal ​wishes

Face it, you want to become a plant.

> There are useful attachments that promote the path to peace.

For example? How do you attach to anything without wish or desire? It is impossible.

>Even your theology says this world is fallen and thus unsatisfactory.

Indeed, but it does not claim that earth is hell.

Buddhists say that all life is suffering. I say, by experience, no. How does this make any sense?

>Buddhism has many heaven realms that you can enter. They might last billions and billions of years but none of them are permanent, the only permanent bliss is nirvana.

>Nirvāṇa (/nɪərˈvɑːnə, -ˈvænə, nər-/;[2] Sanskrit: निर्वाण nirvāna  [nirʋaːɳə]; Pali: निब्बान nibbāna ; Prakrit: णिव्वाण ṇivvāṇa ) literally means "blown out",

mhm

I wish I could find our old buddhism is evil thread.

>>6313

>>6315

The fuck is this heresy? Buddhism and Christianity are not compatible

>>6336

Why do you post here if you're a Buddhist and not a Christian? The bible is clear on what to do and not to do, there are over 500 commandments in the bible. You don't need any more wisdom than the bible, it's very detailed on how you should live your life. The bible says that faith in Jesus is enlightenment.

http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/enlightenment

Not everything is pain, that's is not a biblical teaching. There is suffering, but there is also rejoicing. There is nothing in the bible that says that we should just suffer and suffer and suffer, however the bible says that we should not avoid suffering just because it's painful, we should not avoid suffering if we have to suffer to follow Jesus. But catholic teachings or puritan teachings about how everything is miserable and painful and evil are not biblical.

>For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

>And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

>Therefore let no man glory in men.

>>6342

I get your point but just for the record he's not breaking any rules.

>This board is for Christians of all denominations; that being said, people of other religions, agnostics, and atheists, are very welcome to post, ask questions, and debate with us if they so desire. Spam will be deleted. This board is also SFW.

>>6345

I'm not telling anyone to leave, he's welcome to post here, in no way shape or form do I think he should be removed or w/e. I'm just curious why a buddhist would advocate buddhist doctrines and morals on a christian imageboard for reasons other than to convert people.

>>6342

he can post here if he wants

we dont need another hugbox

>>6349

Ok. Sorry, I wasn't trying to accuse you of anything.

>>6338

>how to attach to things without desire

Part of the 8-fold path is "right effort" or "right striving" meaning you focus on skillful desires and minimize harmful desires. So for example desiring to diligently practice telling the truth while avoiding false speach. That would be a fine desire to cultivate towards enlightenment.

>Buddhism says all life is suffering

It says there is suffering, and there is a solution and way to overcome suffering.

If you want to say "all" life is suffering this is only true in the sense that "all" pleasures and events are transitory and thus dissatisfying in comparison to true lasting happiness (nirvana).

>nirvana means blow out

The example Buddha gave was a flame being blown out. But in ancient India they believed fire was still latent in the world, it became dispersed and "unbound" from its fuel. It wasn't annihilation, Buddha argued with atheist materialists about such a state and concluded that 'annihilation' or a 'state of nothingness' is impossible.

>>6363

No need for that m8, read everything. He himself said

>I'm not telling anyone to leave, he's welcome to post here, in no way shape or form do I think he should be removed or w/e.

We can't be turning on each other like that.

>>6358

>Part of the 8-fold path is "right effort" or "right striving" meaning you focus on skillful desires and minimize harmful desires. So for example desiring to diligently practice telling the truth while avoiding false speach. That would be a fine desire to cultivate towards enlightenment.

What's about things, feelings, relationships?

>>6359

>Not trying to convert. I just think Buddhist teachings are compatible with many religions and can make you a better Christian, a better Muslim, a better agnostic, etc.

No they are not. Christianity is incompatible ith all other religions and especially with buddhist teachings. Buddhism comes straight outta hell.

>>6363

> Very medieval now that i think about it.

Medieval times were morally superior to modern times. The index librorum prohibitorum was a good thing.

I'm not king yet, that's why.

-COƆ, COVɅ, C Ʌ l V I Ɔ

>>6368

Plan for World Peace

I, God King Calvin Edward AO

Calvin Edward Farage

Let all world leaders retain position, have the Free Masons and governments build my Temples and Palaces

Have the leaders of these governments listen directly to me, their God

So that I can end wars, solve conflicts, make universal law, and love the people

>>6365

>implying

Topkek m8

Are you serious?

>>6364

OK, my bad.

>>6374

>Are you serious?

Yes.