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>>255434

Better pray harder this time.

>>255434

At least I have some of the vegan spirit while others don't even. By banning meat, won't it promote veganism?

Is it correct?

>What do you call a vegan who eats meat every couple of days, and then repents. And this cycle repeats for his entire life.

Lent

That is called a Hypocrite. But the meat of all animals was declared good for food by God in the Bible. Because of that veganism is not necessary.

Acts 10:11-15

He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”

“Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”

The voice spoke to him a second time,

“Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”

Mark 7:18-19 - "Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.”

>>255479

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>>255665

He's not talking about a literal vegan and literal meat. He's talking about a Christian and sin. It's called an analogy.

>What do you call a Christian who watches porn every couple of days, and then repents. And this cycle repeats for his entire life.

>Meanwhile, he judges others for watching porn and not repenting like he does. And he goes even further and wishes there was a law forbidding everyone from watching porn.

>>255434

Well OP, I think we should call our good buddy Isaiah in for this one.

>The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

>Isaiah 3:9

Everyone is going to eat meat at some point. In theory someone could go his entire life without meat, but nobody's ever done it before except for Jesus and Mary :^). That's just imperfect human nature for you.

Since everyone eats meat, the only usable metric that separates righteous people from sinful people is the way they react to their own meat-eating. Sinful people parade their meat-eating around, unashamed, and pretend that it's a good thing. Righteous people are ashamed of their meat-eating; they generally don't share instances of meat-eating except to get help with quitting, they repent of their meat-eating, and they firmly resolve to eat meat no more every time.

Your example is someone who's on the right path, but he's not there yet. He understands on some level that his meat-eating is bad, but his repentance probably isn't completely genuine. If he really repents every time he eats meat, he should also be firmly resolving to eat meat no more. That he consistently eats meat every few days for his entire life is the surest sign that he's not sorry enough for it. It should become less and less frequent; there should be periods wherein he doesn't eat meat for months on end, and hopefully he should eventually lose his drive to eat meat entirely except in infrequent moments of strong weakness.

He shouldn't think less of people for meat-eating itself because he himself does it so often. However, he is right to feel disgusted by people who unrepentantly put their meat-eating on display for the whole world to admire.

How does this answer make you feel?

>>255692

>deep down the Vegan knows he'll never be a true vegan

And he won't be a true vegan until he gets to Vegan Heaven and is made meatless and perfect by Vegan God. The idea is to try hard enough at being a true vegan and having enough faith in Vegan God to make it to Vegan Heaven.

>>255434

It makes me feel you exemplify Luke 18:11.

>The Pharisee standing, prayed thus with himself: O God, I give thee thanks that I am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, as also is this publican.

>>255702

Untrue. The Pharisee genuinely didn't do any of those things. The point of the parable is that being a moral exemplar outwardly isn't good enough.

depends on what kind of meat i guess

depends on whether it has blood in it

also we are not forced to be vegetarians so vegetarianism is not a requirement of Christianity.

is the meat from a strangled animal

is the meat full of blood

if so it is wrong according to early apostolic writing.

>>255684

>hopefully he should eventually lose his drive to eat meat entirely except in infrequent moments of strong weakness.

This is the best we can hope for then? That we will forever be bonded to sin? I think there ought to be a step further than this, which maybe the majority won't see. But there ought to be a true deliverance from sin where one can be free of it.

vegans are agents of the devil

eating meat is like fight a man: honorable in that he has a fighting chance to defend himself

eating our poor and helpless plant-brethren is akin to slaughtering defenseless children

>>255684

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