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He's a man that lacks any ideological conviction whatsoever, and simply goes along with whatever will benefit him at the moment in the here and now

No. He is arrogant, racist, and lacks even the tiniest amount of love or empathy.

>>256596

this

>>256595

He's the Pastor Anderson of politics.

>>256595

His policies are the best and I think he's honest about it

>>256606

Take your worship of Trump back to >>>/heathen/

>>256613

I don't worship him, I just acknowledge that he is anointed by the LORD to make America great again.

I doubt Trump is very christian (or even christian at all)

Then again most presidents probably haven't been very religious TBH.

>>256595

>Is Trump the Christian candidate?

Yes, he's the only candidate running who has pledged to promote and protect Christianity. Whether he's Christian or not is irrelevant. You will burn in hell if you don't vote for Trump. He clearly has the divine right to rule and anybody who rejects Trump rejects Jesus as well.

I seriously cannot discern between those who are sarcastic and those who literally believe Trump is God. That should give you an idea how fucked up his followers are

>>256682

>He clearly has the divine right to rule

WTF is this? We're not a monarchy, dipshit

Josué 6:20-21

>Entonces el pueblo dió grita, y los sacerdotes tocaron las bocinas: y aconteció que como el pueblo hubo oído el sonido de la bocina, dió el pueblo grita con gran vocerío, y el muro cayó á plomo. El pueblo subió luego á la ciudad, cada uno en derecho de sí, y tomáronla. Y destruyeron todo lo que en la ciudad había; hombres y mujeres, mozos y viejos, hasta los bueyes, y ovejas, y asnos, á filo de espada.

>>256606

Why would an Orthodox priest bless a filthy Prottie ?

>>256682

>You will burn in hell if you don't vote for Trump

Prottie detected

>>256692

You idiot, it's opinions like these that will inevitably cause widespread social backlashes if Trump gets into power.

Trump doesn't want to kick Mexicans out. He wants to kick ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS out. Yuuuge difference. If you think he wants to turn America into some sort of "white utopia," then you're pretty much the worst sort of person in America today.

>>256697

Trump fans are really good at listening to other people's arguments with an open mind and countering effectively.

What the fuck happened. This board used to be redpilled. I, for one, support Trump. He may not be a devout Christian, but he is better than any other candidate up there. We need to protect America and make it a white country again. Then make it Christian again.

>>256684

Anyone praising Trump literally believes every word they're saying. If Trump and Jesus were on the ballot, they would vote Trump.

>No I don't like Trump he is not a perfect human being and he makes my feelings hurt

He is a proud Christian and considering his actions he has a love for truth. You cannot expect him to be a perfect bible scholar. Get off your high horse.

>>256706

>You cannot expect him to be a perfect bible scholar. Get off your high horse.

In a nutshell. His recent exchange with the pope is quite revealing:

>He isn't strong in his biblical knowledge

>He cares about Christians.

That's about as much as I'd need to know to support him. Support him because he supports me.

Is there any candidate more qualified who is electable?

>>256706

Doesn't he play loose with the facts a lot? And I don't mean a few times on accident.

>Get off your high horse.

This guy's running to be president of the United States. He needs scrutiny.

Anyway, there are some issues that should be important for us to reflect on with regards to Trump. As an Australian, I'm fond of him and I'd be happy to see him elected over your other candidates.

However I think it would be good to question his position on abortion, for one.

>>256780

>The economy is the only thing that matters.

And that's out of the hands of the President.

He proposes a budget, but Congress has to approve it. Trump supporters completely forget - or ignore - the system of checks and balances laid out in the Constitution.

>>256714

>Trump

>Qualified

Oy vey.

>>256784

Who cars about the budget? What Trump needs to do is build a wall, start enforcing existing immigration laws, and place tariffs on China.

Not even Church Militant can stump the Trump

>>256780

But I wanna see the world collapse before I get old, so you know, I can learn a thing or two about post apocalyptic urban survival while I'm still young tbh. Uh, I don't wanna get too spoiled you know.

>>256789

He can't build a wall without Congressional approval. He will also need the approval of the state legislative bodies of California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas.

He can't just got out and have a wall built.

>>256762

Look, everyone take a look at this little autistic pansy weeb shit. This is the reason why normal people wouldn't vote Trump. Not every adult has low functioning autism you know.

>>256706

>You cannot expect him to be a perfect bible scholar.

Trump is an adulterer that couldn't think of even one verse when asked. How many Christians can't think of a single verse? He didn't need to cite everything, just say something you remember and that you liked. But he couldn't do that.

Trump worshipers are idolaters. God will lead the way. It is not within Trump's power to do anything without the grace of God. Maybe he is America's punishment.

>>256808

>ittle autistic pansy weeb shit

That's no way to talk about your brother.

ITT: Faggots who hate America

Seriously though I'd love the people who say Trump isn't the best candidate to tell us who is better. Bonus points if making America more Mexican is better isn't part of your argument.

>>256814

>ITT: Faggots who hate America

I don't love America more than God, if that's what you're implying. I think God is punishing us for what we have done. America had all the power, and it didn't do God's will.

Donald Trump is not a Christian man. You can see it in him. I will likely vote for Ted Cruz. Unlike Trump, he's an actual Christian.

>>256817

>implying I said America comes before God

Also if you vote Cruz you deserve the punishment of God you mentioned. If anyone actually believes he is anything more than a lying rat I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell them.

>>256814

It's not a matter of naming someone better. It's a matter of answering OP's question.

Trump is a Christian of convenience. He's a human iguana, changing patterns and speech depending on the crowd to which he is pandering.

He may be Christian, but he does not act Christian; which has already been proven. Now you're just trying to keep the thread alive in order to pick a fight. A fight you cannot win.

>>256819

PROTIP: God doesn't care who you vote for.

Also, since OP is a (1), we should let this thread die.

>>256817

Cruz scares me more. I probably have a strongly biased perspective since as a foreigner most of my info of the candidacy has come from /pol/, but Cruz seems a lot more machiavellian than Trump. His SBC origins are also somewhat Dominionist.

Vid related is Cruz's dad.

>>256822

Lol I like how you say I'm trying to keep this thread alive. I just woke up and saw this thread you autist.

>>256823

Good point. I'll sage

>>256819

See:

>>256823

You can pick the most gifted man on Earth to lead the US. You can give him all the benefits and all the knowledge on Earth, but if God is not there, then there is nothing he can accomplish. Trump has rejected God in his life to fuel his own ego and pride. America has done this too in a sense.

Trump is not God. Stop treating him like he is. He's just a man, a very prideful and sinful man.

>>256826

Cool story but I'm still voting Trump

>>256814

There's no better candidate. America has always been a satanic freemasonic degenerate nation. She was created by a Synagogue of Satan's cucktoy and his church hating fanboys. She has been banging the Whore of Babylon in the ass 365 times a year since 1947 and sucking her since before World War 1 began when she was still barely a fetus.

So no, there's no christian candidate, but feel free to vote for Trump though.

>>256813

Hey, a gay autistic brother needs to be told too.

>>256815

Tripfriend buddy, I prefer to be called tripfriend.

>>256830

I'd prefer you to be banned.

I honestly can't understand why a Christian would tripfag on an image board for any reason other than pride.

Let me know if you have some holy mission to be a faggot though.

>>256828

You can vote for whoever you want. The question was bout him being a Christian, which he is not.

>>256835

>*about

>>256835

I am ok with that. I am intelligent enough to understand that someone doesn't have to directly agree with you to advance your ideas. The farther right American politics goes the more likely abortion will be banned. Trump = A huge swing to the right.

>>256834

0/10 you're just butthurt.

>any reason other than pride

I gotta take responsibility for whatever things I say.

>>256838

>right

No, that's just a retarded jew made political spectrum. I'd vote for Trump because he's the only candidate that remotely cares about jobs and immigration and caters the less to israel's interest. He's might be able to clean a bit of the gargantuan pile of trash that has been plaguing this nation since forever, but I wouldn't call him a "god emperor" or some other autistic titles you manchildren are pushing with your autistic memes.

>>256844

>implying I ever said he was "god emperor" (which would be a sin).

>implying you haven't been hated on both /pol/ and /christian/ since the beginning

>>256835

Who are you to decide where someone is in their relationship with God. This man isn't perfect. He has is vices. He probably invested to much of his time doing business. But I see that he is coming around to that fact. Seeing that he accumulated so much wealth and skills over a lifetime but not using it all to help society. Seeing that all his money and everything he instilled in his children would be useless if this country would fall apart.

That's what I think he's doing now. Trying to do something good the only way he can. Trying to do it in the largest way to help the most people, under budget and ahead of schedule.

I believe it was st. Augustine that said "There is no saint without a past, no sinner without a future". This is Trump forging a future, and I believe it will be one closer to God.

>>256846

Also this. I didn't feel like defending Trump's Christianity but I think this anon did a fine job of it.

>>256845

See? I assumed that you're one of those teens who give tramp meme titles, and there's a probability that you're lying here, no one knows your posting history. That's because you don't have a tripcode.

>implying you haven't been hated on both /pol/ and /christian/ since the beginning

I've got enough love in real life.

>>256846

Ths is a guy who is going to be president of a global superpower, anon. It's prudent to understand the man. By running for office he opens himself up to this kind of criticism. Obviously we can't authortiatively judge or condemn him, but we can't let him off the hook either.

If I said that I didn't believe Hitler was an honest Christian, or even someone like Obama, I doubt there'd be this response.

>>256844

>>256834

This should be the last place for malicious namecalling to occur. Doesn't it get boring? It's not fruitful for any of us.

>>256850

lol you honestly believe there aren't people on this board who think Hitler was an honest Christian? You seem like a newfag.

>>256850

Whose saying let him off the hook. I'm just dispelling all the crap the knee-jerk anti-trump bullcrap that gets floated around.

>>256822

>He's a human iguana, changing patterns and speech depending on the crowd to which he is pandering.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+9:20-22

/leftypol/ is raiding the fuck other of this place with the anti-Trump shit

>>256863

No, come on anon. I'm pro-Trump but this isn't /pol/. Our loyalties lie first to Christ, and there are reasonable issues to be had with Trump's campaign.

>>256762

Not at all, the Overton Window is defined by the society's culture. To quote Otto von Bismarck : "A statesman cannot create anything for himself. He must wait and listen until he hears the steps of God sounding through events ; then leap up and grasp the hem of his garment."

>>256854

To imply that Trump is doing this to save America's soul is not only ridiculous, it's blasphemy.

Trump is doing this to benefit himself. He isn't interested in the teachings of God. It is one thing to approach one to save them and teach them the word of God from their perspective. It's another to be a deceitful liar to win a seat in government. Do not even compare the two.

>>256879

>Trump is doing this to benefit himself.

Oh, so you have psychic powers now. I doubt that comes from God. How about you take it down a couple notches. Cruz is the one who is the disingenuous one in this race.

>>256886

>Cruz is the one who is the disingenuous one in this race

>implying there are any political candidates who aren't total liars and panderers

Fuck, how naïve can a person possibly be ? This is just embarrassing.

>>256891

Yes. You're so above it all aren't you. Why don't you jerk yourself off somewhere else.

>>256892

Everyone is above it all except for the politicians who actually take themselves seriously. You're worth more than you think you are.

>>256891

That's a pretty dank umlaut you have there.

>>256895

No wonder the media's strategy of saying trump supporters are only low educated hicks. It gives a reason for people who think themselves to highly get to feel better about themselves when they choke down the narrative they want to spin.

Did you wonder why I didn't put hillary as the most disingenuous one in the race? I am staying in context of the topic at hand. I know /christian/ loves to circle jerk about their opinions on Trump but Cruz would be worse on everything if he wasn't shielded by the same christian bullshitting

that happens here.

>>256899

Did you reply to the wrong post ?

>>256901

No

Holy shit /leftyshill/ is working over time to shill an anti-Trump and anti-/pol/ narrative.

>>256905

Then your post made no sense.

>>256906

I am certainly not a leftist, but democracy is a deeply flawed system and will never produce a competent leader. Trump is no exception.

>>256910

Democracy is shit, but it let Hitler get into power so yes it is possible for good leaders to get into power.

>>256913

>implying hitler was a good leader

>>256910

Holy shit. I was spot on with the pseudo intellectual crap. It's all the same junk a 17 year old who thinks they figured out the world spews. I would ask why you think Trump would be a incompetent leader but I know it would just be the regurgitated thoughts that the media spoon fed you.

>>256915

>kicked out the banks

>kicked out the Jews

>stopped the rapid inflation of the Jewish banker printed Deutschmark

>got Germany out of it's massive debt

>Germany was prospering in the time of the great depression

>Berlin went from being a disgusting degenerate city, into a prospering Christian city

Either way I am glad you're not voting, it just makes it easier for Trump to get in.

Watch embed related.

>>256917

>started a war he couldn't win

>thought he was a better tactician than Germany's experienced military generals

>allowed the country to be ruled by his impulse

>lost the war despite having a more industrious and loyal military than the Allies

>committed suicide and left his people poor, hungry, and under the control of Communists and Democratic Republicans

>Germany is now one of the most degenerate and cucked countries in the world

Face it, anon, Hitler was a loser who wasn't fit to rule. Just like Napoleon, he got a taste of power and went on a frenzy that led to his destruction and brought shame to his people. That isn't what a good leader does. Otto von Bismarck, on the other hand, was a good leader who left a legacy that made his people proud to this day ; what a coincidence that he wasn't elected by the population !

>>256595

No candidate is the Christian candidate. Enlightenment democracy is inherently anti-Christian.

>>256846

>This is Trump forging a future, and I believe it will be one closer to God

One does not get closer to God behind a wall.

>>256863

/leftypol/ is not invading or raiding.

This is /christian/, not /pol/.

>>256921

go to bed jorge

>>256924

oy vey … /pol/'s shoa!

That's a thread about /pol/.

/christian/ is not /pol/.

>>256927

Christ is not closed to anyone. How do you plan on going forth and spreading the word? Standing on top of the wall with a megaphone?

>>256936

The Bible says you have to feed the hungry and clothe the naked. It says nothing about allowing them into your country to take your jobs and rape your women.

>>256936

Matthew 10:14 

The wall isn't there to stop law abiding people from visiting or if they would be good upstanding citizens to immigrate there. It's for those who have no care for the laws or its citizens and will bring nothing but death and misery like they are running from.

On spreading God's word. There is danger but that is mostly in third world countries and the horrible conditions they live in. But if you go to a nation where it's illegal like iran, you either suffer your fate under their laws or you don't go. Unless you want to do another crusade.

>>256935

>Screen cap is about /leftypol/ driving a wedge between /pol/ and /christian/ and about inserting leftist doctrine into /christian/

>"That screencap has nothing to do with /christian/"

Shill harder /leftypol/

>>256936

Oh look, lefties using Christian dictrine out of context to push their agenda. Spreading the word of God does not mean to let these people in so they can rape, spread drugs, illegal weapons, prostitution, etc

>>256940

I suppose the Tower of Babel means nothing to you. A society sealing itself off, becoming completely homogeneous, claiming to be the only ones God will listen to …

>>256944

You talk about man's law as though it's God's law. That's very strange.

>>256949

You either suffer under man's law that goes against Gods and maybe help change them or you run away from it. No other option.

Also God punished those at babel partly for having the hubris to think they could build a tower to heaven and because God already told them to go off and cover the face of the world instead of grouping up into one spot.

Honestly it's getting more and more likely that you really are from /leftypol/ when you can't get basic bible stories right.

After he attacked His Holiness Pope Francis it is clear that he is no friend of the Church.

Whether protestant, catholic or orthodox we all surely agree that false profits, of which Trump is one, must be rejected?

>>256957

>>256957

Nope. Pope Francis tried like usual to inject his personal politics into a situation he has no right to be in and generally acting like a lackey for Mexico.

Also, go away /leftypol/

>>256957

>we all surely agree that false profits, of which Trump is one, must be rejected?

Yes, including Jorge Bergoglio.

>>256957

Vatican II has and never will be Christian.

>>256952

And you don't think that building a wall around America and proclaiming it God's own people and keeping others out isn't hubris?

But, of course, declaring me /leftypol/ automatically means you win, right?

>>256960

So, are you claiming that Hell has prevailed against the Church?

>>256958

>muh leftypol boogyman

Do you have nothing of value to say?

>>256967

Apparently being a Catholic and supporting the Pope is now /leftypol/.

>>256595

>implying voting even matters

>>256967

No. It's called security. And whose saying around America. It's going on our southern boarder. For someone who can't get basic bible stories right I wouldn't be complaining about others posting anything of value here.

>>256812

I like this verse a lot, he who is without sin let them cast the first stone. Trump is the most moral man running for the office.

>>256971

The walls of Jericho were brought down and so shall be the similar walls Trump proposes. Jericho's walls were also ostensibly "defensive" but one does have to ask: defensive for whom? And for what purpose are they actually put up for? The walls of America are built not to protect a good, Christian nation but to protect a failing fascistic state, brought down by hubris, cowardice and secularism. America brought migrant hordes upon itself.

Incidentally the migrants are often more Christian than the average American.

Not to mention that it would require several states signing onto it, the approval of congress etc. plus Latinos will be voting in full force etc…

>>256972

I like this Galatians quote a lot too:

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, male nor female; For you are all one in Christ Jesus"

I don't think that Trump has Christian ideas, Especially considering his lack of philanthropy.

>>256973

If the illegals are righteous enough to shout the trumps walls down so be it. I'll be waiting ow so patiently for that.

>plus Latinos will be voting in full force etc…

So you admit they are out to subvert this nation for the gain of another. Yeah, that just screams American loyalty.

>There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, male nor female; For you are all one in Christ Jesus"

In spirit, not physically. You wonder why we call you out as /leftypol/ when you drape a thin veil of Christianity on your progressive politics.

>Especially considering his lack of philanthropy.

Yeah, he only raised 6 million in one night for veterans. What a fucking asshole am I right.

>>256977

>So you admit they are out to subvert this nation for the gain of another. Yeah, that just screams American loyalty.

They love America so much that despite its many problems they want to stay.

>In spirit, not physically. You wonder why we call you out as /leftypol/ when you drape a thin veil of Christianity on your progressive politics.

Exactly. In spirit they are the same as us, which is why Trump's policies to deport and discriminate against Latinos is morally wrong.

>Yeah, he only raised 6 million in one night for veterans. What a fucking asshole am I right.

He just years prior called for stopping Veterans from being able to sell goods on NY streets because he thought it was "punishing" businesspeople (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/28/donald-trump-wanted-vets-kicked-off-fifth-avenue.html also see this for more Trump hypocrisy: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/new-york-homeless-vets-group-asked-donald-trump-for-a-donation-he-sent-them-a-bumper-sticker/)

He also cut off funding for a child with cerebral palsy because the boy's father contested a will. (http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/what-sort-of-man-is-donald-trump)

He called a hero to democracy and freedom, John McCain, a loser for being captured. A man that partied while American boys were murdered by communists described a genuine hero as a "Loser".

He took an elderly woman to court to try to get her evicted so that he could build a vanity project.

What sort of man does that? What sort of apparent Christian does that?

>>256979

I want communists to leave. Yeah it's a real hypocrite when people beg you and you say no wow what a hypocrite he should have given all of his net wort. Democracy and freedom are against Christian principles, go read some more /oeftypol/.I pity you.

>>256973

oh do you call everyone it then or protest Black history month because they were not slaves?

The amount of shills has gone up 500% in the last few months on this board and /pol/

>>256979

>They love America so much that despite its many problems they want to stay.

They love what they can get out of it. They don't care about its citizens or security.

>Exactly. In spirit they are the same as us, which is why Trump's policies to deport and discriminate against Latinos is morally wrong.

No they are just the majority breaking our laws. If it was the Canadians doing it we'd be getting a northern boarder instead. Maybe they should stop crossing illegally if they don't want to get kicked out.

>He just years prior called for stopping Veterans from being able to sell goods on NY streets because he thought it was "punishing" businesspeople

It was. Why would business want another business blocking their storefront.

>He also cut off funding for a child with cerebral palsy because the boy's father contested a will.

It states in the article the his other siblings were part of it and that there is not much actual info into the matter.

>He called a hero to democracy and freedom, John McCain, a loser for being captured.

He's a damn traitor! He got captured because he disobeyed orders then sung like a canary to his captors. So I don't care much what he's called.

>He took an elderly woman to court to try to get her evicted so that he could build a vanity project.

So? The government did it to him and he made a profit off of them for it. He probably offered a decent amount for it.

Keep going. Pull whatever you want from his past. I know he sins because you sin.

>>256983

I want Communists to leave. I just think that if you are earning yuge amounts then you should give a little back, be a bit more considerate.

>oh do you call everyone it then or protest Black history month because they were not slaves?

What?

>>256984

>It was. Why would business want another business blocking their storefront.

They were veterans who had been there longer than Donald J. Trump had been alive. They contributed more than he will ever contribute.

>Maybe they should stop crossing illegally if they don't want to get kicked out.

Many are brought in in the sex trade, something Trump's family used to make money (http://www.theloop.ca/how-the-trump-family-built-its-fortune-in-canada-with-prostitutes-and-booze/)

>It states in the article the his other siblings were part of it and that there is not much actual info into the matter.

Trump still heavily supported it or at least didn't speak out against it. He was therefore responsible, as were all the siblings.

>He got captured because he disobeyed orders then sung like a canary to his captors.

Politifact would disagree (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jan/17/vietnam-veterans-against-john-mccain/no-evidence-mccain-was-a-traitor/)

>So? The government did it to him and he made a profit off of them for it

It was an elderly woman who's main affiliation with the Feds were social security. What kind of person would kick out an old woman?

>He probably offered a decent amount for it.

And when she refused he got nasty (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-time-donald-trumps-empire-took-on-a-stubborn-widow--and-lost/2015/09/09/f9cb287e-5660-11e5-b8c9-944725fcd3b9_story.html)

>Keep going. Pull whatever you want from his past. I know he sins because you sin.

The difference is that I admit sin and ask for forgiveness. Trump has not done so. If you want more then just ask the Scots.

>>256986

>They were veterans who had been there longer than Donald J. Trump had been alive. They contributed more than he will ever contribute.

So others have to suffer because they can't find a better place to do their own business.

>Politifact

HA! like I give a shit what the crap site says. The man has done jack shit for his fellow veteran and coasts on his bullshit heroics.

>Trump still heavily supported it or at least didn't speak out against it. He was therefore responsible, as were all the siblings.

Or a elaborate narrative spun by family looking for more money. But you will take the version you like.

>It was an elderly woman who's main affiliation with the Feds were social security. What kind of person would kick out an old woman?

You act like she wouldn't be payed nicely for it.

>The difference is that I admit sin and ask for forgiveness. Trump has not done so.

Wow, so many of you guys have psychic powers around here.

Yes I know exactly the bullshit you will bring up. He's talked many times about how he fixes things when he screws up. He goes out and fixes it, which isn't that surprising for a man who is as pragmatic as he is. Maybe still off but it's miles closer then alot of you.

Again, you bring the thin valt of Christianity to brow beat people, like bringing up babel when it actually goes against what you said but that goes out the window when it concerns subjects you don't like.

>>256992

They have a legal right to do so and it is generally popular among New Yorkers.

Y'know what? You have no sense of morals, of decency, of community or of anything resembling basic human respect. You are the very lowest of the low.

>>256995

Oh look at that veil fly off. Let's play the not christian game some more. Look at that guy over there. He's persecuting christians, how horri….oh wait. That's saint Paul. Ok. That guy over there. He's a dirty pagan that goes to orgies and does sexual sins, how disgu…sorry, that's st. Augustine.

Wow, it's like they are all human and fuck up sometimes but finally see the truth and try to change. Funny that.

>>256995

>They have a legal right to do so

It's also funny how you can switch between legal and illegal when it suits you cuz those boarder jumpers don't have a legal leg to stand on when it comes to staying here. But they get to stay cuz fuck laws when it's inconvenient am I right.

>>256977

We will tear them down from the inside. You have been warned.

>>256979

>Exactly. In spirit they are the same as us, which is why Trump's policies to deport and discriminate against Latinos is morally wrong.

They are criminals! 100% of the people he wants to deport are criminals. Hence the term illegal alien. They broke the law in violation of Romans 13. Their race is irrelevant, whether they are brown, blue or purple, we should not reward crime.

>He also cut off funding for a child with cerebral palsy because the boy's father contested a will.

The father accused Donald and his siblings of fraud! Of exploiting and betraying his own father and tricking him into manipulating the will. He sued. All while the family was covering his medical bills? What audacity. What greed. You get what you give. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Greedily insult the relationship the man paying for your medical bills had with his father, and you may have to step up to the plate as a father yourself and provide for your own child.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+34%3A7&version=KJV

>He called a hero to democracy and freedom, John McCain, a loser for being captured. A man that partied while American boys were murdered by communists described a genuine hero as a "Loser".

McCain is a cowardly traitor to his fellow POWs. A loser and a villain, not a hero.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

Trump on abortion:

http://www.lifenews.com/2016/02/01/mike-huckabee-defends-donald-trumps-abortion-conversion-he-is-pro-life-now/

“One of the reasons I changed — one of the primary reasons — a friend of mine’s wife was pregnant, in this case married. She was pregnant and he didn’t really want the baby. And he was telling me the story. He was crying as he was telling me the story. He ends up having the baby and the baby is the apple of his eye. It’s the greatest thing that’s ever happened to him. And you know here’s a baby that wasn’t going to be let into life. And I heard this, and some other stories, and I am pro-life.”

>>256957

>>256958

>>256959

No one attacked one another, they were both given false information by the reporters and asked about their opinion on it.

>Trump doesn't want to separate families in deportation.

>Francis was told that Trump wanted to separate family

>Francis didn't agree, saying that those who only think about walls and not bridges are not christian, not saying that Trump isn't christian because he didn't know his real intention

>reporter told trump that the pope called him unchristian

Stop being such an illiterate dumbass cuckfag.

Absolutely not.

The last definitively Christian president was JFK, and even he had serious issues in that regard.

Nonetheless, we all know what happened to him.

>>257258

he deserved it

>>257258

Were there ever any?

We can definitely rule out the first 8, who were nothing but Masons, Deists, Unitarians and Calvinists.

Maybe there were a few decent Episcopalians wedged between the enlightenment and the rise of modernism, but I doubt it. Someone more familiar with the history of the US presidency might be able to chime in.

>>257259

He didn't, but he sacrificed himself not just for his nation, but for the world. He's a martyr.

>>257264

What exactly did he do that pissed off whom?

Now that we know Trump has committed fraud un-apologetically, can we stop talking about him?

He needs to go back to his private life so he can sort out his sins.

>>257266

He was accused. That doesn't make it true. How do you know he was guilty?

>>257268

I don't, but being in court is going to take away from his campaign. He needs to exorcise his demons.

>>257263

No.

There have been no catholic presidents other than JFK, and he wasn't even a very good catholic.

>>257264

How did he sacrifice himself ? He was murdered for being a fucking horrible leader who was responsible for the deaths of many of his people.

>>257265

>>257272

He was killed for opposing nuke ownership for israel.

>>257274

Well he deserved it for starting the Vietnam War.

>>257275

Vietnam was a war with an actual good intention. All the Jews opposed vietnam war, that should say something.

>>257279

>Vietnam was a war with an actual good intention.

False.

>All the Jews opposed vietnam war, that should say something.

That is the laziest argument I've seen all day. Why the fuck would it be a good idea to draft thousands of citizens into a hopeless war just because Jews don't want you to ?

>>256957

"attacked his Holiness"?

The pope was the one who attacked. He said people who support protecting their borders with walls are not Christian. I.e. he denied Trump was a Christian. How is Trump the bad guy there?

>>257255

You keep clinging to that 'only' word. But the journalist who was informing the pope didn't say Trump 'only' supported building walls, just that he supported building a wall. The pope's response to the journalist was based on Trump wanting to build walls to keep immigrants out. It was not contingent on whether or not Trump wanted to split up families. If you think that the Pope would have reacted positively if he were informed that Trump wants to deport the children too, and therefore kick the whole family out and not split up families, you're kidding yourself.

To me Trump is like Putin. He claims to be Christian. Is he? I don't care. All I care is that he defends the Christians and advances our cause. Sure Cruz and Carson are more sincere, but will they accomplish as much for us?

>>257280

>False.

Are you a commie? The commies did most of the massacres.

>hopeless war

It wasn't hopeless. The US obviously had superior weaponry, made more bodycount and less civilian casualties, and in fact never lost any of the major battles, only small operations. Sure, not giving a proper tropic jungle training and not chroming M16's barrel were a huge screw up, it was not a perfectly heroic war either, but it was the last remotely just war that the west especially US has committed. They wanted to kick out communism in Vietnam and bring back French colonies.

>>257282

This is what the reporter said in the transcript.

>He has said that if elected, he would build a 2,500-kilometer-long wall along the border. He wants to deport 11 million illegal immigrants, thus separating families, etc.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/transcript-pope-francis-donald-trump-immigration-37038905

Do you expect the pope to react positively to this either? It was a set up, and Pope's answer was pretty neutral, considering it was a set up question. He even said that he didn't want to get involved in telling people who to vote.

Are you still buying media sensationalism?

>>257298

>Pope's answer was pretty neutral

Denying someone is Christian because they have an anti-illegal immigration stance is neutral? Stop apologizing for this cuck.

>separating families

Again, Trump wants to deport the whole family, seems dubious that the pope would have responded better to that. He wants us all to "build bridges" to let more illegals in.

>>257284

>>257284

>Sure Cruz and Carson are more sincere

Cruz sound sincere to you? His speech is laced with politician's grease to me. It sounds so forced and rehearsed. Plus the fact that he's been caught lying over and over, specially lying about Carson…

"“Ted Cruz apologized for his campaign spreading a false story that Ben Carson had dropped out of the race…"

>>257302

> Plus the fact that he's been caught lying over and over, specially lying about Carson…

this. in fact the only candidate that has been acting in a Christian way is Carson. but sleepy nigger isn't going to get anywhere so it's Trump2016 for me.

plus when Carson drops out, he'll endorse Trump like Chrispie cream did.

1) Trump has obviously been chosen by God to rule. He has the divine right.

2) He is a sinful man, like all of us are. However, he is a good man unlike all the other candidates. Except for sleepy man who ain't got the divine right.

3) He preaches forgiveness. He'll defend Catholics and the pope no matter what pope does to him.

4) He's a better Christian than the pope.

t. Catholic

trump is not a christian

at least cruz and rubio are prayerful christians

>>257300

>Denying someone is Christian

THERE YOU GO AGAIN

He didn't. Francis said only, whether you like it or not, so he technically didn't judge his "christianity".

>He wants us all to "build bridges" to let more illegals in.

That was obviously a respond to the family separation remark. Also, if they go through bridges, that means they don't go unchecked, therefore not illegal.

>>257255

No, he shot his mouth off on a subject he had no info about. He should have known to just say no comment because of the heated subject and his own ignorance. But like usual he let himself be used easily by people with an agenda.

Recently he said to pray for venezuela and I quote "encouraging them to take a journey together for the good of the country" He didn't go after the leadership, no words singling anyone out. Just a calm call for piece because if he did he would be calling out the socialist government that made it a shit hole in the first place and that goes against his personal politics.

This isn't the first time this kinda crap has happened either. He called christians who manufacturer weapons as hypocrites. I'm done carrying water for this pope. At best he is knowingly letting his words be misinterpreted, at worst he is knowingly doing it to push his personal politics.

>>257339

Stop relying on technicalities. Not the letter of the law but the spirit saveth. Berboglio's meaning was clear.

>That was obviously a respond to the family separation remark. Also, if they go through bridges, that means they don't go unchecked, therefore not illegal.

It's not obvious at all. He was not talking about literal bridges, but symbolically saying he wants to build bridges between nations, breaking down borders, promoting his commie hippie pseudo-humanitarian one worldism. Trump doesn't want to do this, he wants to make the American nation-state stronger and the borders secure, so Berboglio's comment would still apply to him.

>>257339

>technically

Is this like a rule? "Nothing at face value" ?

>>257332

Rubio can't even decide whether he's Catholic or Baptist. I can't see how it's possible to reconcile the two.

Probably not very devout, but still the best candidate for us.

>>256830

>Tripfriend

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>>>out

Where do I find porn of christ-tan?

>>257422

You really shouldn't seek that kind of thing.

>>256846

I sure hope you're right.

I'm banking on Trump's ballsiness and the fact that Putin likes him. I really don't trust him though.

>>257425

Just filter him, we have tons of anti-Christian shitposters and shills.

>>257352

>He should have known to just say no comment because of the heated subject and his own ignorance.

Yes he should have.

>But like usual he let himself be used easily by people with an agenda.

Not this time though, he clarified his quotes about Trump.

Maybe it's stupid for me to defend an extremely bluepilled leftist leaning pope like him. But you know, he's the bishop of Rome and therefore in charge of the image of the Church. Even though pope's personal opinions technically don't matter much since they don't change the official doctrine, non catholics and sometimes even some catholics themselves believe so. So we got no choice but to defend (not shilling for) his words to the extent possible, or else more people will antagonize the Church. He's probably a bad shepherd, but I believe that he still does his job as a shepherd.

> He called christians who manufacturer weapons as hypocrites.

Try to read the transcript first.

http://www.news.va/en/news/meeting-with-the-young-go-against-the-grain

Maybe he really did say that every christian who produces weapons is a hypocrite, but if you read further, about armenian genocide, WW2, Stalin, distrust of political leaders, and all, he seemed to try to say that those who profit from wars are the hypocrites. I think he was talking about the MIC (Military Industrial Complex), a finance and policy connection between military complex, political legislators, and weapons industry. Those who gain profit from legislators who are waging an unjust war and call themselves "peacemakers" or even christian are hypocrites.

I haven't checked his prayer for Venezuela, but I do believe that Francis is a politically ignorant leftist sympathizer and will defend leftism at any given chance, but you still have to pay attention to what he says before criticizing him. Don't let the bias affect you.

>>257353

>Not the letter of the law but the spirit saveth.

It's Spirit with capital S, therefore the Holy Spirit. The pope is not God, he speaks with words and script.

>It's not obvious at all. He was not talking about literal bridges, but symbolically saying he wants to build bridges between nations, breaking down borders, promoting his commie hippie pseudo-humanitarian one worldism.

No, it's not NWO, it's not against Church's teachings.

Cathecism 2241:

"The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him. Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens."

A nation can't just ignore foreigners that are really in need. They're obliged to take refugees too if they must, as long as the refugees can submit to the authority and accept everything they get as a refugee in the adopting country.

>>257412

Thanks for the fan letter, I guess.

>>256835

>which he is not.

Prove it.

He's been a consistent churchgoer his whole life, and nothing about his life is particularly indicative of not being a Christian.

And don't give me bullshit about how he's flawed, because we're all flawed.

You're full of shit, and probably a CruzMissile.

>>257541

>Cathecism 2241:

>"The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin."

Well that's just stupid. If the more prosperous nations allow every ambitious job-seeker to enter their country, that will just leave that many less ambitious go-getters in the impoverished country, leading it to become even more certain to stay an impoverished third world shithole. I'm not sure if the catechism was written by NWO 'starve the useless eaters' Malthusian types or by pie in the sky delusional do-gooder Commie types, but either way it's not good.

>>256715

>Posting le funny maymays against actual arguments

back to >>>/pol/ you go

>thread overrun with cucks and /leftypol/

Can't say I'm surprised.

>>257574

>allow every ambitious job-seeker to enter their country

What? No way.

This catechism mostly applies to war refugees and countries under dictatorship. Regarding jobs, authorities are allowed to be more selective in seeking qualified immigrants. "To the extent they are able to", it says. If they think that putting opportunity seeking immigrants in will steal jobs, cause social disorder, or make the immigrant's home country lose it's potential labor as you say, the nation is allowed to reject them.

Besides, nations are allowed to treat immigrants like second class citizens. Hell, they aren't even citizens, only foreigners. "Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption." What's so NWO about that.

>>257600

>le /LeftyPol/ boogieman

Go to >>>/pol/ and get an actual argument

>>257716

It's established fact that /leftypol/ shills /christian/.

Never forget that Christians are always next on the chopping block after the politicians.

>>256949

Forgive me if I'm wrong but Mexico is like 90% Catholic. '

>>257665

This. And even then, we could always just send aid directly to them. Because its CURRENT YEAR, and we have planes.

>>257746

>>257734

>>257734

>Forgive me if I'm wrong but Mexico is like 90% Gangster

fixed

>>257734

Irrelevant. There is not much Christianity in the Santa Muerte worshilping drug dealers that own half thw country and get THEIR filthy lucre from trafficing drugs and under age hookers across the border. It is not benefitting Mexico to keep the border open and grant more power and money to these monsters. For now the wall is a necessity for both sides.

>>256960

Would I be trolling to say Papal authority validated Vatican 2? The main benefit of Vatican 2 is the allowing of Scripture being read in local languages. Great considering they were not written in Latin by the first authors.

>>257845

Yes, but anon … they turned the altar around … THEY TURNED THE ALTAR AROUND!!!

This is seen as the greatest heresy since Solomon married Pagan women. Because, you know, Christ would never look His followers in the eye when He ministered to them …

There is no Christian candidate. Wanting to rule over others on Earth isn't Christian. Just vote for the guy who you think will do less damage, which obviously is always never a fucking Democrat. I'm voting for Trump. It's clearly going to be between Trump and Clinton. No way I'm letting a Clinton waltz into the White House again without putting up a resistance.

>>256986

>using politifact as a source

All you posts can instantly discarded as trash. You are an obvios /leftypol/ shill. You are not a Christian, get lost.

>>256595

If you lean right politically yes, Trump is your candidate. If you're a leftist, you should adopt a bunch of nigglets and let them have sex with your wife.

>>256703

>If Trump and Jesus were on the ballot, they would vote Trump.

Of course I'd vote Trump. Why in hell would I vote for a Mexican?

>>256780

You're dreaming anon. They will slowly make Christianity illegal. You'll won't be able to homeschool your children anymore a lot sooner before that as well. They'll say you're abusing them, or indoctrinating them etc.

>>256817

>>257284

>>257297

>>257332

>Ted Cruz

>Christian

Pro-tip: He's a disingenuous liar who is pandering. Which is insulting to me, especially since he supports Israel.

I'm not voting for a man that won't stand with me because I won't stand with Satan.

>>256826

>You can give him all the benefits and all the knowledge on Earth, but if God is not there, then there is nothing he can accomplish

Then how did Genghis Khan build his empire? How did Stalin gain control over the Soviet Union and defeat the Germans?

Are these not real accomplishments or were they appointed by God, in your opinion?

>>258434

Genghis was anointed by God, Stalin wasn't. We know this because Genghis has many prosperous descendants, while Stalin is a dead end.

>>258435

If Genghis Khan was appointed by God, then why does it bother anyone that Trump is a "sinful man"? To my knowledge, Trump hasn't even butchered villages and driven the survivors before his armies as human shields.

>>258439

Because God has forsaken them. We know this because God has commanded them to be dead ends as well, by adopting nigglets instead of raising their own Children.

>By their fruit you shall know them

>>256596

No, he don't

>>256597

You're wrong about him

>>258435

By your logic Jesus wasn't appointed by God because he had no children. Same with John the Baptist. And the Apostle Paul. And the Prophet Elijah. You realize evil people have children too right???

>>258435

>equating level of earthly success with level of divine favor

lmao this nigga hasn't read his Job

Here on Earth, good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people. You don't get what you deserve til your soul is judged.

people get the government they deserve.

>>258435

That makes no sense. By that logic the Rothschilds are anointed by God since they have many prosperous descendants.

>>256685

We need a monarchy tbh, trump or not. God intended for man to live under a king with the right to rule given by god.

Trump is not a religious man

>>258518

By asking for a king on Earth you implicitly reject the King of Kings. Don't just take my word for it, though: read 1 Samuel 8 and then keep reading through both books of Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles to see what happened when God gave them a king anyway. Hint: it ended in AIDS, fail, and exile.

>>258529

Neither are any of the other candidates.

No politician in this day and age will ever truly represent an ideology outside of self.

He says nice things, promising things, things I would like to believe but then you look at who he is and what he has built and you should realize that first and foremost he is a businessman.

He is the most promising candidate, but that isn't saying much at all.

>>258561

The term 'King of kings' implies the supreme King has lesser mortal kings ruling beneath him.

Here is the deal.

Democrats HATE God. Seriously ask them, they will either deny him or hate him. Based usually on sexual reasons, but also anything that costs them votes.

I am NOT exaggerating. My own mother is

hardcore Democrat. She threatened to put me in a nut house when i converted, and then disowned me when I married a girl who waited for marraige. They literally HATE Christ.

Mexicans are the exception. but they mainly vote Dem. Especially fresh off the Rio Grande ones who need welfare. If we don't stem this tide we will be ruled by the virulently atheist and anti-Christian party.

Trump brings the new gen to the party. Trump stems this tide of new Dem voters. Trump asserts dominance over the pagans and Muslims. In case you did not know preffering the "Strong horse" is why most of these people convert. If we are the victim religion we LOSE converts.

Is Putin sincere or advancing Christianity for political reasons? Was Constantine? Who cares! If we don't start winning we will be wiped out!

If I'm voting for Best Christian it would be Carson, but he is gone now.

>>258605

>Democrats HATE God.

[citation needed]

Everyone I know is a Democrat and we all go to church. I live in a heavily Democrat city which is also heavily religious.

I think you're confusing "Democrat" with "Liberal Leftist". Liberal Leftists don't generally vote Democrat unless someone like Kucinich is on the ballot - and he is a Progressive Populist. Lib Leftists tend to vote Green Party or Peace and Freedom Party.

The US Democratic Party is the largest political party in the United States. You telling me that the largest political party in the US hates Jesus? Then how is the US ~80% Christian?

You need to do a little more research before you shove your foot in your mouth.

>>258610

Televangelist Feel-Good Christianity doesn't count.

>>258610

What kind of Democrat is NOT a liberal leftist?

It seems to me you may vote Democrat but you are the old version of the party. Like Truman or Kennedy. Your neigbors likely vote for reasons of unions or money. Things have changed now.

What Democrat is not in favor of murdering their offspring in utero?

What Democrat does not disdain anyone who does not heep praise on sodomites or people afflicted with gender dismorphic disorder?

What Democrat does not hate public displays of Christianity and sue with great prejudice?

I have years of persecution by these people who wear shirts that say, "If Jesus returns kill him again." The most virulent being my own mother who literally has a photo of Obama in her house the way North Koreans place the Kim family. She disowned her ONLY son for converting.

YOU need to educate yourself.

test

>>256595

We'll Of the 4 remaining, kasich has given us nothing but soothing words and lacks all substance although some few mentioned policies seem to grant favor and power to those who hate christ, immigration stance, abortion stance other liberal policies.

Cruz is a liar plain and simple, not just that he being misled also misleads but he is a judaiser and perverter of the faith to return to an old covenant which has passed. Furthermore Cruz knowingly invents falsehoods by which he might prosper, we know he lied about Trump and the KKK we know he lied about Carson dropping out and we know he has continued to lie about his "long held convictions" specifically pertaining to immigration. Personally the leaked videos from campaign adds showing him with his family made me dislike him very much.

Rubio is just doing whatever GOP strategists tell him to do at this point, he isn't a man of principle and his faith is only a tool he brings out to win him votes, it isn't central to his ideals, he is a puppet for those who would continue to harm the people in this country, I could go on with rubio but I think you would have to be a fool to support a man with no experience in life or government who is barely old enough to run for president, whom has backslid on all of his moral issues just to get down and fight trump with even dirtier language and pettier insults than trump himself would use.

Trump is the last man standing among these 4 the other 2 being atheists one known and the other a secret atheist.

This doesn't automatically make trump the christian candidate but I believe if he isn't then he is the closest thing to a christian candidate he goes into the realms of politicians and calls them out for being dirty lying thieves cheating the taxpayers and selling them out to other higher paying interests, Christ called out the pharisees in a similar way. he compares people to things that are demeaning which Christ also did in calling the pharisees vipers. so far we aren't out of reach of claiming the mantle of christian candidate. his immigration stance forces the hardworking and honest people of mexico to stay in their own country and improve their lot, which I don't believe it to be unchristian I would say it is unchristian to flee the corruption of mexico and not to fight it, Christ fought corruption. to ban muslims temporarily and restrict immigration is reasonable to me, we have suffered 1400 years of islamic terror I think God said something about turning the other cheek, we only have so many cheeks and He also said to forgive but go back and read it there was a number of times to forgive transgressions it was some odd number over 500 I believe but it's in there. It's not unchristian to defend yourself from foreign invasion or from those who would do you harm, to claim so all catholics would have to recognize papal hypocrisy in building a wall around the Vatican to keep Saracen raiders out. He wants to audit the Fed which is the heart of usury in this land and to show their works to the people that we may judge what to do with them. He would control taxes to help the poor find them more opportunity by using proven economic methods to expand GDP which we forfeited under NAFTA. above all he is the only one who would bring the exaltation of Christ back into the public square, it's a cultural change, he would change the tone of religion in america not that we Christians should be louder in america but that we Christians should be safe and at home in america as the defining staple of our culture not just a religious choice.

>>258653

The main benefit of trump is that he will absolutely defeat the enemies of the church, the atheist will not have the gumption to mock us openly anymore and lie about our faith, he will dishearten our detractors and in victory silence the anti christian liberalism that has poisoned our nation.

To any of you who claim he is a liar prove it to me for I have yet to see one lie, I have seen him deceived and repeat the untruth but he corrects himself when he sees the truth, this is the mark of an honest man.

To any who claim he is racist or xenophobic I demand you show me proof in his words video or written, because I have seen these common claims and I know they are lies because I have heard his words completely and never once have I heard a racist thing come from his mouth.

What some call arrogance I call confidence something most of us have been deprived of in this pitiful nation of backsliders.

How could a man that lacks love, empathy, or mercy raise such nice and successful children, he lets those he has defeated in the public eye whimper away licking their wounds he doesn't drag their failure around behind him unless he needs to remind competitors of his deeds.

And as to him not being overtly out about his christian faith where in the bible does it say you must make a public declaration of faith every 5 minutes to be a christian. Christ chides those who use the faith as a blunt instrument to sway public opinion.

Trump is the best option and he is the only one able to break the cycle of manipulation, indentured servitude, control, fear mongering, ideological control, manufactured consent, endless war, unyielding debt, deceit and dishonesty not just in america but in the west.

>>256595

He's a political candidate, mixing up religion too much won't end up good.

At least his relationship with religion isn't as plastic and manufactured to appeal to religious voting base. It's more genuine.

>>258616

>What kind of Democrat is NOT a liberal leftist?

Guess you've never heard of Blue Dogs and Yellow Dogs.

Blue Dog Democrats are what you would refer to as "Dixiecrats".

Yellow Dog Democrats are Party loyalists who will vote Democrat no matter what.

Blue and Yellow dogs can both be highly conservative.

>Things have changed now.

No, they haven't.

You're claiming that Dems hate Jesus, but have offered no proof to back up your claim. Bring your proof or gb2 /pol/.

Protestants will invent all kinds of excuses to describe him as christian.

>>258430

Trump's Daughter LITERALLY converted to Judaism and Trump is a much harder-leaning supporter of Israel.

>>258610

>Then how is the US ~80% Christian?

It's not

People calling themselves Christians doesn't make it so

>>258875

Donald Trump doesn't have control over her religion or marriage obviously.

On the bright side, his daughter is only the 3rd of his children by his first wife.

If my dreams come true and The Donald dissolves Congress and becomes our First Emperor, the throne would pass to Donald Trump, Jr. by pure primogeniture, or to young Barron William Trump if issue from Melania received priority. No need to worry there, chum!

Whether Trump is a real Christian now is arguable, but he'd have to convert to a liturgical church like Catholicism or Orthodoxy for the coronation ceremony.

>>258884

I can't say I hope for that to happen, but boy, would it make for an interesting time to be alive.

>>257893

Why do lefties always leave out the part where Jesus say it's possible for a camel to go through the eye of a needle with god.

>>259095

That may have been His way of saying anyone can make it to heaven with God’s help but you may be put through the ringer a few times before you realize money isn't the answer to everything.

>>259143

It was his way of saying that it's impossible for a rich man to resist sin enough to get into heaven with his own strength but with god he can be strong enough to resist sin and get into heaven.

>>257903

Protestants are so prideful and arrogant.