The crucifixion's purpose?

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The crucifixion's purpose? Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 05:14:25 a871f4 No.260125

>the forgiveness of the humanity's sins was a secondary effect of it instead of the purpose, "he died for our sins" is catholic doctrine. The end of blood sacrifice was also another secondary effect. In the bible the punishment for sin is death, but unless you regret your sins at death/limbo, once judgement day you won't get salvation, jesus died to show that you can be resurrected into salvation (like before adam and eve became mortal), once judgement day happens we will be like jesus at resurrection and leave our bodies into a soul existence.

Is my dad correct about the purpose of jesus's crucifixion?

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 05:14:54 a871f4 No.260126

Video not entirely related…

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 09:13:10 2b63b6 No.260138

Isaiah 43:25

>“I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.”

Tell your dad to read the bible. Remind him also about what born again even means.

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 11:02:22 1de6ea No.260142

>>260125

>"he died for our sins" is catholic doctrine

Why would he want to believe something that isn't catholic doctrine?

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 18:46:52 a871f4 No.260187

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>>260138

>not honoring your parents

My dad's version of the bible is clearly unorthodox, but it sounds better than jesus needing to die for our sins. You don't agree with anything he said? I understand 'sounding' better isn't a priority. I know that (like the video i posted,) it doesn't make sense that jesus died primarily to forgive our sins. I understand perpetual sin, but isn't there an interpretation about the crucifixion being jesus leading the way to god?

Was there no way to forgive sins before jesus's crucifixion, and didn't jesus forgive before it?

Or was it to stop animal sacrifices?

>>260142

I grew up in catholic house and my mom is a catholic, but Roman catholicism is inconsistent with the bible, video related. Sorry to offend any catholics.

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 18:52:01 e96c77 No.260188

>>260125

>"he died for our sins" is catholic doctrine

yeah that's bullshit. even if you have something like a ransom or christus Victor view of atonement, Christ still died in order to remedy human sin.

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 19:26:09 4633ab No.260189

>>260187

http://fisheaters.com/responses.html

Daily reminder

Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 23:11:55 1de6ea No.260207

>>260187

Catholic (with a small c) doctrine is by definition binding for all Christians. In Greek kata means according to and holos means whole. According to the whole. The fullness of truth. To say that different Christian Churches and ecclesial communities should rightly believe wildly different and contradictory things is an absurdity.

I know you meant Roman Catholic, but the implications are the same.