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Alex here, I'm back. I'll make a SAFemail ASAP for those who'd like to contact me. 1-8-16

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b4e40a No.261327

Can you guys help a potential convert to Christianity understand the virtue of humility? What are it's proper limits, and so on?

Do confidence and humility conflict with each other? How outspoken should a Christian be, whether about his beliefs and values as a Christian, or feelings on other matters (personal, political beliefs, intellectual)? Are you guys very outspoken? I attend a community college, and hating on Christianity and traditional values in general seems to really be in vogue. Should I be vocal about my beliefs in that enviroment? I also worry about meeting a girl/getting married. Women seem to respond to outgoing, and confident guys.

Should a person be soft-spoken and gentle? Is speaking in a loud voice arrogant?

These questions are really making my head spin.

Can you guys also maybe point to prominent Christians in history who exemplify whatever it is you deem to be the properly Christian behavior?

f8ae06 No.261341

>>261327

I openly wear a cross and a medal scapular, and adhere to the values of christianity. This means that I also fasted (finishing this sunday) and am going to church.

I don't really talk about it unless it's asked, but I do say things like "Nope, can't come over then, church." and defend the church when necessary (and when I'm able to).

As long as you don't go full prottie with KJV's on sticks waving at people and saying that God hates them you're pretty fine.


c1ba30 No.261342

The Christian concept of humility is the understanding of complete and utter insignificance before the glory of God. Which coincides with the concept of God's infinite love (Why would a perfect being love something so broken? Because He is perfect, unlimited, beyond merciful and loving of each of us). We humble ourselves in worship, realizing that it is by no merit of our own that we deserve anything. But the graciousness of God. It's this understanding of our total reliance on God.

This doesn't necessarily mean we debase ourselves with other humans in trying to supplicate ourselves more and more. I think Aristotle kills this one with his concept of humility (he breaks it into two virtues but we won't get too technical). Basically the goal is to understand exactly where you stand with something, and assert yourself appropriately.

For instance, if you know a lot of math because you are a mathematician, and someone ask about it: you are going to be sort of an asshole if you throw yourself down as "I know nothing about math! I am such a fool" trying to be humble. But you also don't want to go "I am the best there is, you can't find someone better" since you probably aren't the best there is. And if you know very little math, to simply state that as well. Be willing to learn.

Rules of conduct often state that you don't announce your proficiency without it being relevant. It wouldn't help to just randomly drop in "Oh hi Dave. How was the weekend? Also I am way better at math than you." That is just bragging.

I still haven't worked out the appropriate time to interject if someone slanders Christianity. I tend to only do it if we are in direct conversation.

I think gentleness is a given. We are instructed to deliver the news graciously. Not slam someone over the head and try to make them cry. We aren't trying to win an argument (necessarily). We just want them to understand the truth and come to accept Jesus Christ. So defeating a bad argument is often part of that.


d22667 No.261370

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>>261327

Abba Benedict wrote some fantastic stuff about humility and obedience. Read his Rule.

http://www.osb.org/rb/text/toc.html




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