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Christ is Risen! Χριστὸς ἀνέστη! Христóсъ воскрéсе! Christus resurrexit! Hristos a înviat! !المسيح قام

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80a725 No.412725

Why do so many Christians around here think Hitler did nothing wrong/ are Nations? I'm not talking just about this board but the internet in general.

80a725 No.412727

I agree with the 14 btw just not the 88


cc4124 No.412728

you will find that in general spaces on the internet that are un-moderated or at least have low moderation like image boards will drift far right.


80a725 No.412730

>>412728

I know. I am "far right". Sometimes I see twitter profiles with the black sun which is an occult symbol.


80a725 No.412739

>>412725

I meant /are NatSocs*


52aabe No.412740

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There's nothing inherently wrong with liking your country and wanting it to succeed. Our faith doesn't conflict with having (a reasonable amount of) pride in where we come from.

Some people take that too far, but that happens in every circle.

It's inevitable especially when the most popular board on this website is /pol/.


0a8f52 No.412743

>>412725

Hitler did many things wrong but it would have been better for Germany if we had won WW2.

Also the major de-Christianisation of western Europe began in 1945.


80a725 No.412747

>>412743

I don't even believe in 'muh six gorillion' but the Nazis had abortion legal for certain people along with euthanasia and persecuting the church.


cb0c4e No.412750

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>>412725

Hitler did plenty wrong.

Lebensraum was wrong.

His Muslim ass kissing was wrong.

His conversion to Atheism was wrong

His catholic pandering was wrong

His attempted removal of the OT was wrong

His hatred of Paul was wrong

And his worship of his own race was wrong

But at the same time he did a lot right.

His reformation of Germany was good

His attempt to export the Jews not kill them was good

His artwork was good

His rejection of degeneracy was good

His attempt to fight communism was good

His uniforms were pretty cool looking

And I think his heart was in the right place, he was just misguided. Much like /pol/ who worships him.

While I don't think he's in heaven, if he was it would be a pleasant surprise.


80343d No.412753

>>412725

>Why do so many Christians around here think Hitler did nothing wrong/ are Nations?

Many different reasons.

For instance, most /pol/acks have bought into the Nazi propaganda that was used after the Nazi party had realized that their anti-Christian propaganda didn't work out as planned. After the Nazis had realized that open hostility towards Christianity had only made them less popular, they changed their strategy and pretended to be Christian themselves. So, what you often find here are people who claim that Hitler's "Table Talk" is a fraud (just like Himmler's "Posen speeches") but who buy into all the kind of propaganda you can find in "Mein Kampf."


0e3135 No.412755

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>>412725

>Why do so many Christians around here think Hitler did nothing wrong/ are Nations?

I guess they are Catholics like Hitler was.

The Christians have a book called the bible and if you read in that it says that Jews killed their main dude who was called Jesus Christ. So its kinda natural that they would warm to someone who hated Jews.


80a725 No.412761

>>412753

I was watching TGSNT and even in that they mentioned the Hitler Youth said 'Hitler is our God now'. I never gave National Socialism a consideration after that.


36ffe5 No.412763

>>412753

>>412761

I really hate this topic, because so many people have dug their feet so hard into the ground, that any sort of historic evidence on either side is just shrugged off. This has gone from an actual debate about a historic dictator to a game of "your-word-against-mine". The propagandized nature of the topic from both sides doesn't help either… At the end of the day, yes we did lie about him to drive people to war, but that's no reason to do a complete 180 and buy into everything he preached. Anyway, it's just nice to see some other, more level-headed individuals on this topic.


0a8f52 No.412765

>>412747

But now we have abortion and euthanasia for everybody and the church has stared into the abyss for a very long time. National Socialism wasn't great but it was better than the Weimar republic and infinitely more desirable than the rotten mess we got now after 72 years of occupation.


36ffe5 No.412771

>>412765

Well, if were just being idealistic here, it's all Kaiser Wilhelm's fault there even needed to be a "Third Reich"… The arrogant ass spat in the face of everything Bismarck built.


80a725 No.412778

>>412771

Luther's fault tbh


0a8f52 No.412781

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>>412771

Don't talk to me or my sons ever again.


7daf73 No.413867

>>412771

>>412778

>>412781

Can we all just agree Germans kinda destroy Europe periodically.

>>412725

A lot of people like to reconcile their political/ideological/whatever beliefs around their religion instead of the other way around. That's how you get "Hitler was a good thing for Christians" and commie apologists.


4190dc No.413876

there are already multiple threads in the catalog on this. you could have joined the discussion there.

also this thread reeks of shill


4190dc No.413881

>>412750

plenty pleasant post


e36e44 No.413890

>>413876

I'm not like the usual shill thread claiming they're LARPERS. It's not that they aren't necessarily good christians, they're not really NatSocs.


b9287a No.413894

>>412755

Forgiveness is a theme in the Bible too, and multi-millenia grudges for predestined events should not happen. If anything, if Hitler was Catholic and the people who like him are genuinely Catholic too, then that only shows how misled or unchristian he and those people are.


e1d610 No.413911

>>412740

Pride is a sin. There is no such thing as a reasonable amount of sin.

Proverbs 16:5


331947 No.413948

>>412750

He killed himself. Mortal sin, no repentance.


e85f72 No.413951

>>412750

>And I think his heart was in the right place, he was just misguided.

I agree with this explanation. Especially that statement.

It's difficult to read his speeches and not feel incredible admiration for the man.

Also, the 88 in the 14/88 is pretty good tbh. I don't find anything wrong with it.


0e3135 No.413960

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>>412725

>Why do so many Christians around here think Hitler did nothing wrong

Because Jews killed Jesus and Hitler was just getting revenge.


0e3135 No.413961

>>413960

PS he did make a lot of tactical mistakes on the eastern front. So he got that wrong.


958ae8 No.413964

>>413948

No evidence.


9c154a No.413970

>>412725

you can't be a national socialist and a christian since natsoc puts their race above anything else


e85f72 No.413973

>>413970

That's not true. Just look at the 88 words:

>What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe. Every thought and every idea, every doctrine and all knowledge, must serve this purpose. And everything must be examined from this point of view and used or rejected according to its utility.

>so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe.

It's about being a people with self-determination. God is always in mind. Your race is god-given, after all.


cc4124 No.413974

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>>413970

true tbh who else here /ChristianFascist/?


b9287a No.413976

>>413961

You mean he made strategical mistakes, like starting a war with the SU in the first place.

>>413960

See >>413894

Starting a world war with a final death toll in tens of millions isn't very christian behavior.


b39063 No.413985

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Wow, talk about cringe.

Hitler did some things wrong as anyone, but I'd be legitimately surprised if he weren't in heaven.

>but muh X belief, muh X victims

The problem is a lot of what he supposedly did do you don't know the context of. Maybe the imprisoned priests were too close to the Jews. Maybe they were kiddy-diddlers. We'll never know because a lot of evidence was destroyed by many parties.

When you learn more yourself, you begin to see that there are rarely any true victims.


3f9337 No.413988

>>413961

Yeah. "Hitler was right" is much more accurate than "Hitler did nothing wrong."


3f9337 No.413991

>>413976

He didn't start a world war. He didn't even want war. Keep believing the propaganda of Christ-killers and their satanic allies.


0e3135 No.413992

>>413976

>You mean he made strategical mistakes, like starting a war with the SU in the first place.

I suppose I do mean strategy but I dont think the war with the soviet union was a mistake.

That was the most sparsely defended area near Germany for their expansion.

One of his main strategic mistakes was presuming the Brits (and therefore ultimately the USA) would not get involved in the war.

Two things he should have learned from WW1 is that the Brits will get involved even if the war is heavily against their own interests. And if you give the Russian bear time to wake up it will maul you.


3fa124 No.413998

>>413976

>Starting a world war with a final death toll in tens of millions isn't very christian behavior.

I agree. Churchil is burning in hell for doing so.

Not even memeing. Churchil and Stalin were worse than Hitler. Though I am glad on some level he was stopped. No idea what the frenzy ideology would've done and I'm thinking it wouldn't be worth it. Though today's world is not worth it either, so… I don't know.


9c154a No.414001

>>413973

>88 words

>created by a pagan

just face it you can't mix together both


e36e44 No.414044

Supposedly Pope Benedict XVI cousin who had down syndrome was euthanized. His cousin was taken away to get "therapy" and later died.


f1e1d1 No.414049

>>413911

You do realize the sin of pride isn't the same thing as being proud of something, right?


e85f72 No.414153

>>414001

Nobody is saying Hitler was a Christian. But the natural law is written on all of our hearts.

I personally think he just did not understand Christianity, but still had his heart in (mostly) the right place. He knew something was deeply wrong with current culture and he changed it (mostly) for the better.

just face it there's no problem with being a Christian and admiring Hitler's general intentions. Obviously no one is perfect because we're all separated from God.


3f9337 No.414161

>>414153

>Nobody is saying Hitler was a Christian.

I am. At least, he may have been.

What do we have pointing to the idea he wasn't? All we have is atrocity propaganda and obvious frauds like the "Table Talk."

If he wasn't a Christian himself, he still clearly fought on the side of and for Christians, against the Jewish & pagan Allies.




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