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Christ is Risen! Χριστὸς ἀνέστη! Христóсъ воскрéсе! Christus resurrexit! Hristos a înviat! !المسيح قام

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8ccc41 No.413146

Who here /catholicconfederate/ ?

f98082 No.413147

>>413146

Hell yeah


4c95e9 No.413164

File: c870c337736672d⋯.jpg (246.73 KB, 1224x1445, 72:85, 1484103646182.jpg)

>>413146

the CSA belongs to the Southern Baptists

Repent and convert now or GTFO


2a24a3 No.413183


6488ed No.413185

>>413183

Are there potential wives down there?


2272c5 No.413190

Confederate Catholic empire when?


92808f No.413195

>>413164

Pretty much, but we can unite against fedora/liberal faggotry that festers in cities at least.

>>413185

No. The South is not immune to feminism.


124d8c No.413202


4bbc9a No.413217

>>413195

> but we can unite against fedora/liberal faggotry that festers in cities at least.

>but we can unite against fedora/liberal faggotry

>but we can unite against

>but we can unite

Ah!


22eb80 No.413240

>>413146

Sinners by means of rebelling against authorities or by being slavemongers.

morally an indefensible position.


e0ee2b No.413247

>>413240

>The South is all about being rebellious and racist

Yank detected


22eb80 No.413250

>>413247

The Confederacy was born of violent rebellion. And many declarations of secession mentioned slavery as a main, if not the primary cause.

In what Universe is that Catholic behavior?


fb3712 No.413251

>>413217

The irony…


a24909 No.413261

wew


c4c348 No.413262

File: cfcd3c66cd1b35e⋯.jpg (57.45 KB, 900x770, 90:77, Viktor_Reznov.jpg)

>>413146

Republics must die.


898060 No.413264

>Catholic

>Confederate

Chose one


22eb80 No.413265

The enemy of the human race, who opposes all good deeds in order to bring men to destruction, beholding and envying this, invented a means never before heard of, by which he might hinder the preaching of God's word of Salvation to the people: he inspired his satellites who, to please him, have not hesitated to publish abroad that the Indians of the West and the South, and other people of whom We have recent knowledge should be treated as dumb brutes created for our service, pretending that they are incapable of receiving the Catholic Faith.

We, who, though unworthy, exercise on earth the power of our Lord and seek with all our might to bring those sheep of His flock who are outside into the fold committed to our charge, consider, however, that the Indians are truly men and that they are not only capable of understanding the Catholic Faith but, according to our information, they desire exceedingly to receive it. Desiring to provide ample remedy for these evils, We define and declare by these Our letters, or by any translation thereof signed by any notary public and sealed with the seal of any ecclesiastical dignitary, to which the same credit shall be given as to the originals, that, notwithstanding whatever may have been or may be said to the contrary, the said Indians and all other people who may later be discovered by Christians, are by no means to be deprived of their liberty or the possession of their property, even though they be outside the faith of Jesus Christ; and that they may and should, freely and legitimately, enjoy their liberty and the possession of their property; nor should they be in any way enslaved; should the contrary happen, it shall be null and have no effect.

~Sublimis Deus

>Response of the Congregation of the Holy Office, 230, March 20, 1686

The answer is CLEAR, you cannot be a Catholic and own slaves. More to the point you cannot support a rebellion in order to keep slaves.

Cease this stupidity.


92808f No.413276

File: 0141869ecc53591⋯.png (16.29 KB, 420x420, 1:1, 1485246584640.png)

Where did all of these Yankees come from? Why did the thread turn into a discussion about slavery? Why are some Catholics mocking other Christians for wanting to be against liberal faggotry?


0b7d3d No.413352

>being Confederate means you support slavery

Wew


f98082 No.413357

>>413250

>>413240

Seccession was legal and the Constitution voluntary. Slaves were also better treated and would have been better off in the South as we long term disbanded slavery and had healthy segregational integration into society before the war of northern aggression decided to toss all that out the window.

>>413265

>>413264

You've only read yankeee propaganda I see


d99304 No.413365


4b5e99 No.413374

File: ccdb9fd43b8b5bb⋯.jpg (76.35 KB, 620x430, 62:43, 620-freedom-summer-1964-ci….jpg)

File: 8a377ff9b7bee68⋯.jpg (179.5 KB, 600x398, 300:199, integration-protest.jpg)

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>>413357

>Seccession was legal and the Constitution voluntary.

There is no secession clause in the Constitution. The only theoretical legal way to do it would be to amend the constitution or have an approving vote in both chambers of Congress. Secession, as it happened before the Civil war, was absolutely not legal.

Ratification of the Constitution was voluntary. Submission to the Constitution after ratification is not.

>Slaves were also better treated and would have been better off in the South as we long term disbanded slavery and had healthy segregational integration into society before the war of northern aggression decided to toss all that out the window.

Lol read a history book. Ever hear of Jim Crow laws? Ever hear of the literacy poll tests for black men and women? Ever hear lynch mobs?

The simple reality is the southern racists never would have integrated without the other states forcing it upon them. I mean shit, look what happened in the 1960s. After over 100 years of "desegregation" Southerns still unleashed dogs against disenfranchised American citizens. People were attacked for sitting at a restaurant counter!

Long-term, slow integration "not yet" integration simply means "no integration". History has clearly shown this.


22e0d5 No.413376

File: 0d8a3e209db1e89⋯.jpg (25.38 KB, 257x268, 257:268, crown-thorns.jpg)

Jefferson Davis was a Roman Catholic convert whose funeral procession was held by a Roman Catholic bishop.


fb3712 No.413384

>>413374

Dude, they haven't even said anything remotely racist…. Are all Germans Nazis too? I'm not even from the south, but come on, this is the same kind of negative stereotyping you're ridiculing them for.


d99304 No.413389

>>413374

>There is no secession clause in the Constitution. The only theoretical legal way to do it would be to amend the constitution or have an approving vote in both chambers of Congress.

So I suppose the American revolutionaries did these things before seceding from Great Britain?


92808f No.413393

File: 243e32abd2c3fe3⋯.jpg (9.17 KB, 240x255, 16:17, 1429803727454.jpg)

>>413374

>>>/leftypol/

Anybody who studies history knows that the "civil rights movement" and desegregation destroyed black communities, families, and their culture. You need only look at pictures or listen to music from then and compare that with the present. Look at crime rates, single motherhood rates, divorce rates, etc. etc. The list goes on.

A certain chosen race of people were oddly involved in all manner of what transpired to cause this as well. Strange.


ebfa58 No.413395

>>413374

Just like the corruption of the Roman senate voided the Roman constitution, the corruption of American government has voided the US constitution


fb3712 No.413415

>>413393

The thing is though, in the south you guys are actually more integrated than we are. In the north, we're segregated, not by law, but by sheer open hostility… and the crime stats you described are spiked more in the north than in the south… makes you think…


fb3712 No.413417

I have to say, as a northerner, I admire the south quite a bit. You guys aren't huge A-holes to each other. I've been to the south multiple times, and in general people just act more respectfully towards one another.

Also, I admire your sense of self. In the north, nobody has pride in their history. If your outwardly patriotic or proud of anything you get looked at weird. It's almost like their more ashamed of it than anything, and given how left-wing it is I'm sure they are…


c5f82b No.413422

>>413190

Secede and expel yanks and degenerates when?


c5f82b No.413424

>>413374

Remember that time the czar released the serfs all at once? Remeber the Russian revolution?


2272c5 No.413434

>>413422

I'm actually a Leaf


efd9c5 No.413446

>>413393

>court jews rule the world


9bad2d No.413457

>>413389

The American revolution was illegal, yes. The Americans gained legal sovereignty and legitimacy when Congress and the British ratified the Treaty of Paris in 1783.


efd9c5 No.413459

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Quote from video:

>"The American colonies.. ..with catholic aid, achieved liberty and independence.." @ 1.57:12


160e0d No.413532

>>413384

The Southern States governmental reaction to the emancipation, desegregation, integration of former slaves and their children was inarguably based in malevolent racism against black Americans. I never said any particular individual on this board is racist.


fb3712 No.413537

>>413532

ok… but these people aren't the confederate leaders, there just people on an image board… they might not agree with that, or they might agree with it, but each is an individual.


160e0d No.413542

>>413537

Please identify where I said any individual on this board is a racist.


160e0d No.413545

>>413395

Rome had no written constituion. Abraham Lincoln was validly elected President. The Congress still made valid laws. The corruption of individuals within the American government does not make void the American Constitution. Nullification has never been upheld in any Federal Court or in the Supreme Court.


fb3712 No.413547

>>413542

You cited these sources as an argument against individuals here. Through association, it was implied…


fb3712 No.413549

>>413545

This is true though. As much as I am against federal overreach, the loss of an election is no reason to seceded.


160e0d No.413555

>>413547

I referenced real historical events as an argument against the position that "slaves wouldve been better treated through the southern integration strategy but for the northern states forcing it". Forced desgregation and integration was necessary because the Southern states maintained institutionalized racist policies and wouldnt desegregate themselves.

Any association with what actually happened and any particular individual on the board was by you.


160e0d No.413559

>>413393

>Da joooooos

Go back to /pol/ .


92808f No.413690

File: de84f8ee272955e⋯.png (272.21 KB, 532x468, 133:117, not an argument.png)

>>413559

A little research proves all of it. They're even proud of being involved.


7a760e No.413938

Can you provide some scripture supporting the idea that slavery as an institution is wrong?

Pro tip: you can't

>>413265

>>413250


7a760e No.413939

Slavery Ordained of God by Frederick A Ross

https://archive.org/details/slaveryordained01rossgoog


4db8fa No.413941

>>413938

>>413939

>Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

If you want to say that we should all be slaves, then there's no turning your mind around then, i guess.


eb7d2e No.413997

>>413146

Sorry but the South does not belong to a foreign church.


b797b5 No.414007

>>413997

So the injuns own it?


235a97 No.414043

>>413997

Our church is not foreign there. No more than any other denom.


7a760e No.414074

>>413941

Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ; not by way of eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart. With good will render service, as to the Lord, and not to men, knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free.

And masters, do the same things to them, and give up threatening, knowing that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him.

Ephesians 6:5‭-‬9

Mistreatment of slaves is a sin but Slavery is not wrong. Don't try and twist irrelevant verses to make your point, find somewhere in the bible where the existence of slavery is said to be wrong.


de9b53 No.414094

File: 4a1b81a8ee50254⋯.jpg (148.77 KB, 489x763, 489:763, General James Longstreet.jpg)

Daily that 20 Confederate generals were Roman Catholics, including the prominent Gen. James Longstreet (who was actually a convert from Protestantism).


eb7d2e No.414145

>>414043

It's the invasive church of a foreign nation.


f98082 No.414151

>>414094

Huge if true


aece87 No.414162

File: fcc26e09c9c1c85⋯.jpg (75.28 KB, 700x571, 700:571, Stonewall.jpg)

>>413146

Look at Stonewall Jackson. What a fine Catholic gentleman—oh wait, he was a devout Presbyterian.


4b5e99 No.414188

>>414145

Nonsense. A Catholic signed the Declaration of Independence along with the many other sects. Catholics are no more foreign than any other Christians to the Americas. Jefferson Davis himself wanted to be Catholic and corresponded with the pope. If Catholics are foreign, so are baptists.


b797b5 No.414192

>>414145

You realize that A)Catholics were in america at the time of the war for Independence.

and B) if we're being technical, Christianity as a whole is a foreign religion. Both in terms of coming from Europe to the Americas, and from the Middle East to Europe…

Just because your religion has "southern" in it doesn't mean you literally own the south. That's a very prideful way of thinking… though I'd expect nothing less…

Also, Protestantism as a whole is a slothful man-made religion


d50f44 No.414268

>>414162

This, the south belongs to Presbyterians. Forgot the SBC, PCA all the way!


3c176a No.415155

File: c8afd2eac86edf0⋯.jpg (349.61 KB, 998x666, 499:333, Orthodox Dixie.jpg)

>>413183

>/orthodixie/

I too am an Orthodox Dixie man. Howdy brother! I made us a flag!

American by birth, Southern by the grace of God.


2272c5 No.415167

>>414192

Catholics came to the Americas before protestantism even existed.


2a24a3 No.415171

>>415155

Ooh! Saved.


982ada No.415176

America is a Protestant country. Look at the founders.


fb3712 No.415205

>>415176

Look at all those Deist founders…


4b5e99 No.415332

>>415176

I know Southern education sucks, so I'm going to excuse your ignorance. But look up Daniel and Charles Carroll. Look up the history of the foundation of Maryland.

Catholics have always been here and we're involved in every important event since the start.


279276 No.415342

>>413941

>If you want to say that we should all be slaves, then there's no turning your mind around then, i guess.

Exactly, we should all be slaves to Christ and righteousness.


279276 No.415344

Also, who /Georgia/ here?

>>415332

State education sucks, but higher and private education are better in the South than anywhere in America.


92808f No.415354

>>415332

I've tried to keep the peace in the thread, but America is a protestant country, lad, especially the South. There's no debate. That doesn't mean we can't get along with other Christians, though.


69dd59 No.415387

>>415344

Georgia Catholic present. Long Live Dixie, and Christ is King!


4b5e99 No.415390

>>415354

>America is a protestant country,

>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion . . .

>Catholics signed the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation, and Constitution

>Catholics founded the state of Maryland

>Catholics are the largest Christian sect in America

hmm… maybe, now hear me out on this, just maybe, you're wrong?


f412d4 No.415394

>>415344

Georgia here.

only hipsters and sinner go to public school


f412d4 No.415398

>>415390

>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

not until after we establish the inquisition anyways…


92808f No.415445

>>415390

>Catholics are the largest Christian denomination in America

Well, with ~50 million """immigrants,""" I suppose that could be possible. Break it down as Protestant vs Catholic and Protestants vastly outnumber Catholics.

Anyway, the law needs to be changed to disallow non-Nicene religions. I think we can all agree on that. An inquisition could be held accordingly.


69dd59 No.415486

>>415445

Any Christian worth his salt would agree with that firmly.


2272c5 No.415487

>>415486

>tfw most Christians wouldn't agree with that. Especially Judaism.


982ada No.415496

>>415332

1 out of 56 signers of the declaration of independence were catholics. The rest were protestant with a small minority of deist. It was overwhelmingly protestants.


982ada No.415501

>>415496

Heres the founders of America:

Charles Carroll Maryland Catholic

Samuel Huntington Connecticut Congregationalist

Roger Sherman Connecticut Congregationalist

William Williams Connecticut Congregationalist

Oliver Wolcott Connecticut Congregationalist

Lyman Hall Georgia Congregationalist

Samuel Adams Massachusetts Congregationalist

John Hancock Massachusetts Congregationalist

Josiah Bartlett New Hampshire Congregationalist

William Whipple New Hampshire Congregationalist

William Ellery Rhode Island Congregationalist

John Adams Massachusetts Congregationalist; Unitarian

Robert Treat Paine Massachusetts Congregationalist; Unitarian

George Walton Georgia Episcopalian

John Penn North Carolina Episcopalian

George Ross Pennsylvania Episcopalian

Thomas Heyward Jr. South Carolina Episcopalian

Thomas Lynch Jr. South Carolina Episcopalian

Arthur Middleton South Carolina Episcopalian

Edward Rutledge South Carolina Episcopalian

Francis Lightfoot Lee Virginia Episcopalian

Richard Henry Lee Virginia Episcopalian

George Read Delaware Episcopalian

Caesar Rodney Delaware Episcopalian

Samuel Chase Maryland Episcopalian

William Paca Maryland Episcopalian

Thomas Stone Maryland Episcopalian

Elbridge Gerry Massachusetts Episcopalian

Francis Hopkinson New Jersey Episcopalian

Francis Lewis New York Episcopalian

Lewis Morris New York Episcopalian

William Hooper North Carolina Episcopalian

Robert Morris Pennsylvania Episcopalian

John Morton Pennsylvania Episcopalian

Stephen Hopkins Rhode Island Episcopalian

Carter Braxton Virginia Episcopalian

Benjamin Harrison Virginia Episcopalian

Thomas Nelson Jr. Virginia Episcopalian

George Wythe Virginia Episcopalian

Thomas Jefferson Virginia Episcopalian (Deist)

Benjamin Franklin Pennsylvania Episcopalian (Deist)

Button Gwinnett Georgia Episcopalian; Congregationalist

James Wilson Pennsylvania Episcopalian; Presbyterian

Joseph Hewes North Carolina Quaker, Episcopalian

George Clymer Pennsylvania Quaker, Episcopalian

Thomas McKean Delaware Presbyterian

Matthew Thornton New Hampshire Presbyterian

Abraham Clark New Jersey Presbyterian

John Hart New Jersey Presbyterian

Richard Stockton New Jersey Presbyterian

John Witherspoon New Jersey Presbyterian

William Floyd New York Presbyterian

Philip Livingston New York Presbyterian

James Smith Pennsylvania Presbyterian

George Taylor Pennsylvania Presbyterian

Benjamin Rush Pennsylvania Presbyterian

Wow it sure does look like a protestant country to me. Whats that about southern education, yankee faggots?


ee646b No.415511

>>415496

>>415501

1 is enough to prove Catholics are no more foreign than any other christian. America is not a "Protestant Country" and never has been.


3bfa1b No.415527

>>414094

no wonder the North raped and violated the South so much. it's all so clear to me now.


297e16 No.415539

>>415487

Sad but true. Emphasis on "worth his salt."


79debf No.415561

>>413376

No he wasnt. He was very sympathetic though.


982ada No.415583

>>415511

The Vatican city is a foreign country. And dude are you fucking serious? are you going to say it was never a white country either because there was a tiny minority of nonwhites?


2a24a3 No.415596


de2888 No.415622

>>415176

>America is a Protestant country. Look at the founders.

>All founders are masonic

What did he mean by this?


ec26cf No.415763

File: 6fc02e026c2efd0⋯.png (21.64 KB, 1280x853, 1280:853, 1280px-War_Flag_of_Novorus….png)

>>415155

Like pottery how Orthodox Christians across the sea are fighting for freedom against Yankee imperialism while carrying a very similar flag.




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