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File: e6ff8e641cb5f1a⋯.jpg (291.4 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1499443990751[1].jpg)

ba16e7 No.473408

It's out.

ba16e7 No.473409

File: 54f32835f4b27f9⋯.jpg (116.47 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1499445131124[1].jpg)


ee3674 No.473524

Doesn't seem heretical. Very surprising.

2c3292 No.473528

i thought this thing was a documentary

499b41 No.473645

It's time

eb88fc No.473882


no one cares about your shitty weeaboo games

629746 No.473885

File: 0590213cd368b1f⋯.jpg (98.21 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, fate-zero-24-large-021.jpg)

I wonder why it's Catholicism that gets all the anime love when the Orthodox Church is more prevalent in Japan? Always found that odd. Must be part of their Western fetish I suppose.

ad7712 No.473886

File: 3a6186a91e1fcac⋯.jpg (55.51 KB, 640x480, 4:3, orthodox nun.jpg)


To be fair we do get some representation, only it's probably best we're spared more

eb88fc No.473887


Are you surprised? Japan couldn't give a hoot about Christianity. Not to mention that the "anime love" that Catholicism gets is usually just some extremely weird distortion of Christianity

ea835b No.473888

File: 1f0cc8c479fd539⋯.jpg (33.1 KB, 480x907, 480:907, 1f0cc8c479fd5396e50b7c9ebc….jpg)




138371 No.473907


They don't like Christianity because its Christian, they think its hip and co0l because it was a part of traditional Western European culture which is hip n' sheeeit.

I fell like Japan is autistically mocking the West.

c52beb No.473930

File: 0f581647701b9bc⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 255.69 KB, 638x638, 1:1, 15.png)


You guys got Seikon no Qwezer or whatever it was called. :^)


Precisely. Be careful what you wish for.

a9ce06 No.473931


I'm not even an anime fan and I enjoyed it. I will be watching it as more episodes come out.

9fe250 No.473939


Basically because they where here first and most cripto-christians were cripto-Catholics.


Most Japanese Anime and Videogame studios are doing nothing else with Western Myth what the average weeb fanfic writer does with Japenese myth. They usually have no idea what the heck they are cobbling together. This is why you sometimes find totally cruddy things like a Giant called Ceberus or Fantasy Manga, the Roman Empire winning a war against the Minotaurs or a a entire endless series of moefied Hildegard von Bingen simulators for whatever Playstation is the latest one.

eb88fc No.473943


Japan is forever cursed, look at the massive success of Christianity in China, even despite all the failures and civil war and oppression, there are millions in China who follow Christianity, Japan is just a shithole and despite being evangelized since the 1400s there is very little success, under 1% of the population is Christian. Not only the government, but even the people of Japan hated Christianity when it first arrived. Other than a minority few, Christianity is just a fairy tale and they don't give a crap about it, this is why anime is degenerate

e52a8c No.473949


I teach at a Japanese school of about 400 kids and 5 are Christian. One wrote a paragraph about his faith for a project and it was so pure I almost cried. Honesty I think the faith of those 5 kids are worth more than 5 million "cultural Christians" back home.

c52beb No.473956


Basically this. Raw numbers are unimportant.

2e8460 No.474017

File: ef7ec2ddcb2fec8⋯.jpg (54.99 KB, 682x400, 341:200, IMG_1270.JPG)


> a entire endless series of moefied Hildegard von Bingen simulators

1f496f No.475933


Are Roberto and Josef /ourguys/?


Beautiful ;_;

d92efd No.475948

File: 629d53ad25155a6⋯.jpg (112.42 KB, 353x440, 353:440, StJohnClimacus.jpg)


It will be some weird stuff if they'll do it, I guarantee it

They are already making weird stuff from Catholicism And if they will notice all the theologumenons, Like on Heaven and Hell or Theosis i Orthodoxy, it can end up as a very, very weird Animes.

So be careful what you wish for.

2afe6b No.475950


Isn't orthodox iconography basically an ancient Anime?

db0b1e No.475954


No anon. Orthodox icons are windows into Heaven. Anime is a window into Hell.

407f98 No.475955


When father Stavros was only a child, he had a dream about how he had to become a hieromonk to climb the stairs to heaven. But in his path to becoming God himself, he has to fight off the other patriarchs and survive the tollhouses.

We can meme it.

d92efd No.475959


This could make a Dark Souls tier game

d92efd No.475961


>But in his path to becoming God himself

except for this part, we could change it maybe

407f98 No.475982



It's the theosis part that gets taken out of context when a Japan-man makes it an anime.

a36bfa No.476027



>More culturally symbolic of the west

>Was quite big and popular until the america nuked the christian centers in WW2

95485f No.476065


Because they were essentially there before any other Christian denominations. The first Christian missionaries were Jesuits, and pretty much every major Christian member of Japanese nobility, and basically the entirety of the underground Christian movement after Christianity was outlawed, were Roman Catholic

259a8a No.476066

File: 3100a1bab2817a8⋯.jpg (8.69 KB, 259x194, 259:194, ka.jpg)

>be christian

>serve greek goddes


99de3b No.476113

File: 1d33a2ea60db325⋯.webm (3.2 MB, 450x360, 5:4, nip theology.webm)

So I finally watched this. Honestly the best representation I've seen of Christianity in anime (albeit the competition isn't very stiff). The dialogue at the beginning was really annoying because of how gratuitously expository it was, but that's nothing new to anime. I'm concerned about the plot point with the one dude's little brother, since you know the brother's gonna die and it's going to be like, "How could God let this happen????" Feels like if you're an ordained priest you should be more than equipped to deal with such a case. The other problem is just worrying that this is gonna become some yaoi bs later; but I don't think that's highly likely. Best to steer clear of the fanbase in that regard though.

a787bc No.476178

File: 86e67b2c575e638⋯.gif (2.04 MB, 243x137, 243:137, just fucking take it.gif)

a787bc No.476187



5ee4f4 No.476197


>lol anyone else calvanism is so dum

1f496f No.476260


He's just a philanthropist bodyguard. Next to the Lord, those greek gods they fight are just cartoon villains, "this week I feel like destroying the world :DDDD"


I share your worries, wonder if this anime has a source material or it's just anime original.

c0f083 No.476272


It's a light novel series

a36bfa No.476310

File: fc9073e852f82f8⋯.webm (11.98 MB, 853x480, 853:480, Vaticanus.webm)


To be fair those characters are unhinged and are interpreting God through the lens of their own understanding and not through the apostolic lens. Just goes to show how anyone can interpret God in a way they fit without guidance.

As for the show itself. I was pleasantly suprised as it had no obvious blasphemies or cheap shots towards the christian faith. We'll see how it develops but I cannot really say anything bad about it. Obviously there is some nasty corruption amongst the clergy in that church and I am curious how they will handle it. I'll keep watching it. With this and the Young Pope I wonder what is up with all the acceptable Christian media shows coming up lately.

259a8a No.476430

File: 62ef58ef47cbeb7⋯.jpg (264.12 KB, 709x563, 709:563, One Pound Gospel.jpg)

this is a manga about a nun making a gluttonous boxer quit his gluttony.

its nice

365e0a No.476443

Could anyone link me to this seemingly good show?

a36bfa No.476446

b61eeb No.476453


>With this and the Young Pope I wonder what is up with all the acceptable Christian media shows coming up lately.

It's to make Christians into more useful consumers, by playing on their idealism.

d182c6 No.476467



are there no legitimate avenues like crunchyroll or whatever licensed stream sites?

1bc568 No.476471


Nobody who made the anime is going to be getting any money from a crunchyroll subscription. Their streams are lower quality than what they say they are, and they lie to their customers about it and ban them from the forums when they complain. If I were you, I'd wait for BluRays. Your money will actually go to the creators and if the BluRays sell well we might get a season two.

a36bfa No.476473


I think it's on crunchy. Go look it up.

c0f083 No.476701



>not .pantsu.cat


2842b9 No.476702


Unfortunately I can't get Crunchyroll in my country. (Japan)

c0f083 No.476710


Maybe watch it on tv?

7abff7 No.477056


Japan has a cult that thinks Jesus had a Japanese brother who died in his place, Jesus fled to Japan and that's why a Japanese family has blue eyes.

Japan views Christianity as you view Greek mythology. It looks cool that's all.

35baa1 No.477138

I watched first episode and am pleased. I want MOAR, next episode when?

520eff No.477355

1f496f No.478845

I watched the new episode.

Roberto's went too far with his joke, but at least Josef acknowledged it was an awful joke.

Also that excuse that one priest gives Roberto and Josef so they can't check the old director office. We can agree it was the worst line in this episode right?

82fb9e No.478904


Seems like it's going to be a slower mystery type show. Though I hope it gets hype, a slower pace makes blatantly suspicious stuff like that more insufferable.

de9abb No.478968

Episode 2 is out

https://nyaa.si/view/938675 !

99de3b No.479267

File: 162f6e73441fd1b⋯.mp4 (4.39 MB, 1080x720, 3:2, homodemons.mp4)



I thought it was weird that they let the dude get away with saying that the "director's spirit still dwells" in the room or whatever. Maybe I'm being nitpicky here though.

The crying Mary statue thing has me a little confused. The explanation they gave made sense, except that it doesn't explain why the condensation only appeared on her face in the form of tears.

Also Mario's stigmata are pretty much confirmed fake at this point right? He's apparently involved in this seance business and I think he's probably got the hots for this Sebastian kid so I don't see his stigmata as likely.

And I thought they were going to do more with that illicit relationship between Fr. Francesco and Sr. Dorothea, rather than unceremoniously killing them off in episode two. Oh well, I guess it was for the good of the plot.

Doe anyone else find it weird that nobody has a Spanish name or is visibly hispanic despite them being in southern Mexico?

7f885b No.479292


Nagasaki, the City with most Christians in Japan, was Nuked in WWII.

At least give that discount.

f74adc No.479427


Hiroshima had a lot too.

Catholics shouldn't have fled Japan, just ran north and converted Ainu.

1f496f No.479638


Yeah, that's the line I was talking about, maybe it's just an expression for the author but it means a lot to us…

They mentioned in this episode that most of the clergy and locals were orphans from WWII who came from Europe with the ex-director. They don't mention which country they came from though.

ad4a63 No.479682


We never fled. We hide deep. And we came back after centuries and all was good until someone nuked us. But at least it gave us one of the most surprising miracles in past century.


19805a No.479687


Amazing, this is why I carry both a prayer rope and a rosary whenever I can. Praise be to God, His miracles occur every day.

e40959 No.479709


Truman was a freemason. Huh really makes you think…

8052ff No.479772

File: ac851aaebbcba54⋯.jpg (10.41 KB, 315x315, 1:1, 1435930252435.jpg)


>They don't mention which country they came from though.

<Director Johannes

<Father Klaus

They're German, also explains the runes in the form of a cross on the wall

inb4 occult nazi conspiracy conclusion to the arc

99de3b No.479805

File: 7148b8de736bb0b⋯.jpg (9.11 KB, 267x200, 267:200, detective_devito_by_blitz_….jpg)


>hey mentioned in this episode that most of the clergy and locals were orphans from WWII who came from Europe with the ex-director

Ohh, that makes a lot more sense. I was only half paying attention in that scene and kinda just assumed that Japs think that Mexico somehow got torn up in WWII.

b3bed3 No.479818


>America nuked Christian centers

What did they mean by this?

f8a734 No.479873



I'm a bit sceptical of the idea that the US deliberately set out to wipe out Christian centres. Weren't there good strategic reasons for Hiroshima and Nagasaki being chosen? And plenty of other cities in Japan suffered serverely from firebombing. I don't know enough about military history tbh, maybe someone else here does.

520eff No.479900


I was getting Dresden vibes.

db0b1e No.479921


I think the reason that they let him get away with saying that was because they suspected him and didn't want to reveal their hand and make him even more careful.

But I think that the creators of the show wanted to leave us with even more questions after this episode than the first. I think they will get around to answering (some of) them at the end of this particular story arc.

It still seems to be a decent show so far and I'm not hating watching it.

db0b1e No.479922


Why not create your own Rosary and make the beads the traditional knots of the prayer rope?

35baa1 No.479946


>because they suspected him and didn't want to reveal their hand and make him even more careful

yeah but they didn't discuss it later when they were alone

8052ff No.480067

I've never read Chesterton's Father Brown, but can anyone confirm if there's any influence there?

520eff No.480538


There's murder in it, if that's what you mean.

8052ff No.480542


not really, but ok

1c3c21 No.480596

File: 0dc68a4ad397dc5⋯.png (2.05 MB, 1666x870, 833:435, 1500269325045.png)

St. Augustine of Hippo is the patron saint of Tenshi no 3P! He is a great patron saint for people who struggle with lolicon. I like to think he is busy in heaven right now praying for everyone watching this show.

1c3c21 No.480601

Does anyone know if Vidangel works with Anime Strike on Amazon?

82fb9e No.484543

File: 8ca736bd0723f28⋯.jpg (27.35 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, spooky.jpg)

>The Nazis did it

Of course. Why didn't I see it before?

I want to see an Omega Death Hitler 9000 by the end of this.

8052ff No.484704



Haven't watched it yet, but I called it last week

2ac57e No.484787

>Molestation conspiracy involving drugs

Wow, this show even has an accurate portrayal of homosexuality.

37390e No.484809

9f867c No.486230


I don't think it's a bad thing.

9f867c No.486234


LoL. It's is really a occult Nazi conspiracy. It seems that you really know the full arc. Tell me more spoilers, please.

546652 No.486256


>I wonder why it's Catholicism that gets all the anime love when the Orthodox Church is more prevalent in Japan?

>Orthodoxy more prevalent thatn Catholicism in Japan


>Catholics - 509,000

>Orthodox - 10,000

http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/country/sc1.html (Japan is #94)


Let's also not forget that Japan even has it's own Marian apparition.

ef5e0a No.486265


>Let's also not forget that Japan even has it's own Marian apparition.

Yeah, with the weeping virgin Mary statue it's pretty obvious that it was inspired by Our Lady of Akita. I wonder if the show is going to turn out to have actual supernatural elements to it, or it's all going to be "explainable by science" type of investigations.

d17385 No.486274


That exposition was bad even by animu standards, didn't watch past episode one

520eff No.490213

File: 2d18af4af459674⋯.jpg (73.97 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 1501284794441[1].jpg)


You're missing out.

100559 No.490216


Because Catholic is Aesthetic

82fb9e No.490403

Honestly, this has gone so insanely over the top that I've just gotta keep watching to see how they try to top this. We've already dropped Hitler's demon spawn and Jew assassins. I can't quit now, no matter how stupid it is.

2ac57e No.490413

>He put sulfuric acid in the bottle and was using it for an exorcism

Pretty heretical lads

4898b7 No.490860

Still one of the accurate depictions of Catholicism in anime. Which REALLY isn't saying much, but ah well.


Try the first arc, at least until the 4th episode. It's the entertaining trainwreck type of anime.


When you run out of holy water, you have to use something against demonic forces. You can't use the water in the church since that was clearly blessed by nazis.

ad71ca No.495289

Episode 5 was fun, but pretty heretical.

It feels like the author took advice from a superstitious Mexican/Central American Catholic. It does sort of seem like the stuff they would believe really happened.

074d5f No.500609

So this is what true christianity looks like.

7f885b No.500799


Something to do with Explorer Jesuits making the first Western-Japanese dictionary in the XV-XVI century

890efa No.500850



Harry Truman was a known high-ranking Freemason. Nagasaki had been the center of Christianity in Japan since Francis Xavier's missionary work. You do the math.

7f885b No.501279

File: 780bb2aa23c4b50⋯.jpg (88.45 KB, 616x1024, 77:128, 9aec9581a48a2b28a6adfcc475….jpg)

b9b174 No.501291

File: b0b38d2e3598b49⋯.jpg (34.75 KB, 780x471, 260:157, The-Masonic-Temple-1.jpg)



We were founded by """"former"""" Freemasons so it makes sense. Even though the southerners and Nationalists will claim we're a Christian (ie. Protestant) Nation.

Look up what Jefferson did to the Bible. Better yet, look up MKOffen. The Masons still run the show in the US. It's disgusting.

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