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File: c830656df824616⋯.jpg (80.7 KB, 933x768, 311:256, 1502349259920.jpg)

ef8262 No.514680

Refer to subject. Am I missing some piece of information on why the Jesuit name is dragged through the mud on this board?

83953b No.514689

File: d6d34813e57576c⋯.jpg (2.86 MB, 1956x3182, 978:1591, St. Ignatius of Loyola.jpg)

People assume that all Jesuits are raging leftists because of a few vocal priests from that society. In reality, they're a mixed bag. They're very educated men that have been very influential in the Church's history (most of it being a very good influence, they were at the front lines of leading the counter-reformation or evangelization missions worldwide).


a263f1 No.514692

Because Jesuits are crypto freemasons trying to establish a one world government through ecumenism.


83953b No.514695

>>514692

smells like a false-flag


a263f1 No.514703

>>514695

Yeah, I'm not really serious. I think they were banned in my country because Jesuits always tried to convert Lutherans.


83953b No.514708

>>514703

>Yeah, I'm not really serious

Now that I read your post again, I should have realized that. But y'know, I never what to expect anymore on these forums. :P

> I think they were banned in my country because Jesuits always tried to convert Lutherans.

Yeah, that was their goal. They were able to achieve it in my country, anyways. Similarly, the Dominicans were assigned to convert the Cathars and they were able to successfully do it.


3046dc No.514711

>>514703

>>514708

Is convert a Latin word that means burn?


83953b No.514713

File: 84c3b87197cf469⋯.jpg (238.08 KB, 1200x1700, 12:17, The_Perugia_Altarpiece,_Si….jpg)

>>514711

>believing in these memes

For example: St. Dominic, the founder of the Dominicans, was known to publicly debate Cathar leaders. The followers of these heretical sects (e.g. Lutherans or Cathars) were converted via the superiority of the Church's theology. This is still the case today.


5b89ef No.514716

File: ea7556a98039494⋯.png (84.53 KB, 227x240, 227:240, 0031_16-1.png)

- Protestants are still sore to this day over the counter-Reformation. There's a lot of Jesuit conspiracy memes going back hundreds of years about Jesuits inflitrating this and that. Those are mostly mythical though.

- Liberation theology, especially in Latin America

- The St. Louis Jesuits

- Numerous high-ranking Jesuits openly saying utterly heretical things. Look at their America magazine for instance


5b89ef No.514720

File: c1bd1c2066eab05⋯.gif (34.43 KB, 468x240, 39:20, 0031_09.gif)

>>514711

Protestants should be burned.


fb732d No.514724

File: 677c33db983bdb7⋯.jpg (228.22 KB, 540x830, 54:83, 060905-130927 Statue of St….jpg)


034e7d No.514762

>>514713

>The followers of these heretical sects (e.g. Lutherans or Cathars) were converted via the superiority of the Church's theology

From what I've read, most of the Cathars didn't convert. If the missions were so successful, then the Albigensian Crusades would have never been launched: http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Albigensian_Crusade


0a17b2 No.514774

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


d23425 No.514778

ah thank you

i just came to the board to make a post about another (((jesuit))) causing strife in my home country of australia

so australia is holding a referendum on sodomite marriage: and the catholic church surprised us all by actually going against it and threatening to fire priests who disobeteyed

by who is the dissenting voice?

none other that a leading JESUIT priest

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/legalise-samesex-marriage-for-the-common-good-says-catholic-priest-frank-brennan-20170901-gy8njv.html

the jesuit historic question is one thing:

but what is absolutely certain is the current jesuits are absolute fucking cancer and do nothing but attack traditionalist movements


20cf8c No.514790

File: 9d7d62188fb23c6⋯.jpg (31.72 KB, 600x564, 50:47, 9d7d62188fb23c69713f4443fd….jpg)

NuJesuits are leftist scum. Original Jesuits were badass Christwarriors who converted millions.


b49821 No.514846

They got the feces of a little boy


289c17 No.514849

>>514720

>You shall not murder t. Exodus

<actually, you shall murder

Of course, it was just a joke and we should never take you people seriously even when you aren't joking.


6a9a4a No.514907

>>514689

>in reality they're a mixed bag

Something like 70% of Jews vote Democrat in the USA. Also go look at pew research on Jewish attitudes on Christianity. They generally oppose Christian values


6be849 No.514908

Jesuits are the hand behind Jewry and Masonry.

<Albert Pike Invents Illuminati

<Founds Rose Law Firm where HRC becomes a high priestess.

<Podesta is a Jesuit

<South American Jesuit missionaries were used by the USSR

<Pope is a Jesuit. Wonder why Sean Spicer visited?

<Stalins real last name was Georgian for "son of Jews" but he studied as a Jesuit in the Vatican.


79c66a No.514928

>>514907

>Jesuit = Jew

What


260ede No.514929

diapers


83953b No.514943

File: a12c033dbc07bfe⋯.jpg (29.72 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, 1221.jpg)

>>514907

lol what we're talking about Jesuits


5b89ef No.515028

>>514849

It's not murder for the state to administer capital punishment for crimes like murder and heresy.


5b89ef No.515034

>>514908

Attending a school founded by Jesuits doesn't make someone a Jesuit. Jesuits are a priestly, mendicant religious order. You can't be a Jesuit unless you're a Catholic priest. Albert Pike, Stalin and HRC are not even from Catholic families (as far as I know) and the only one on that list that is a Jesuit is the pope.


5b89ef No.515035

>>514778

Not all Jesuits are against traditionalism, bu, at least as far as the mass, the Jesuits have never been a liturgically-focused order.


3c0ac8 No.515039

Because they're hyper-liberal.


289c17 No.515044

>>515028

>It's not murder for the state to administer capital punishment for crimes like murder and heresy.

>it's not murder so long as i'm not involved personally in the act, but just encourage it

Yeah, sounds a lot like what some commie would say.

>crimes like murder

I don't disagree, so long as you're speaking of actual physical murder and not "you're damning their souls by teaching wrong things" bunk. God will save his people, regardless of how many heresies are flying about. Not to say that heresies are not sad things

> and heresy.

<As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him,

<Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep aloof from every brother who leads an unruly life and not according to the tradition which you received from us.

Try finding a verse for me that says you should kill heretics, just try it. You won't find any, because christianity is not islam. It is not the Old Covenant either.


bfb221 No.515100

>>515044

>have nothing more to do with him.

That does not take out foremost(capitol) punishment, why should one who risks the souls of others be allowed to spread heresy and encourage others as well. If they do not repent, then they should be killed to prevent its spread.

>inb4 pacifist


289c17 No.515427

>>515100

>That does not take out foremost(capitol) punishment,

Where do you see Jesus telling us to kill heretics?

>why should one who risks the souls of others be allowed to spread heresy and encourage others as well.

So you should murder every muslim and such as well? They do teach heresy as well and think they're abrahamic, while we can obviously say their god doesn't behave like God, with upside down rules.

That aside, do you believe in predestination? I believe that everyone of God's people will be saved.

<Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love 5He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, 6to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.

<And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. 29For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; 30and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

I find this a critical part of the topic.

>If they do not repent

Were it that they would

>then they should be killed to prevent its spread.

Where do you find this in the NT?

>inb4 pacifist

No, i believe in just self-defense, but that extends to the physical realm. I would also rather not do a full on magdump on any burglar, in hopes that they might repent later, but i would attempt to stop and detain them.


5b89ef No.516580

>>515044

You're right that Christianity is not like Islam. Christianity does not explicitly prescribe any particular kind of government. However, the secular government should rule according to Christian principles.


5b89ef No.516584

>>515427

>That aside, do you believe in predestination? I believe that everyone of God's people will be saved.

That's such a bogus argument. You might as well say that there is no point in fulfilling any Christian duties because God would save all of his elect anyway.

>No, i believe in just self-defense, but that extends to the physical realm. I would also rather not do a full on magdump on any burglar, in hopes that they might repent later, but i would attempt to stop and detain them.

That's not how guns work, anon.


57ccd7 No.516641

>>514790

>wait for the king/queen to convert for political reasons

>rest of the social order converts from the top down

>????

>Jesuits converted millions

This was common in European countries

It didn't work so well in the Americans where there was no king to convert or social pressure to join the foreign conqueror's faith


aa96a7 No.517785

>>514680

>Am I missing some piece of information on why the Jesuit name is dragged through the mud on this board?

Overlap with /pol/. Jesuits have pro-Jewish origins and are tied to organizations that push anti-white agendas.


ae3fdd No.517790

>>516584

>That's such a bogus argument. You might as well say that there is no point in fulfilling any Christian duties because God would save all of his elect anyway.

Obviously untrue, because there is a point to fulfilling christian duties even when God just saves all his elect anyway. Have you thought of it being for the glory of God?

>That's not how guns work, anon.

Duh Doesn't mean i can't be an idealist from time to time


aa96a7 No.517824

File: a5c65d1a67b1d72⋯.jpg (143.79 KB, 707x1000, 707:1000, DIVERSITY-2.jpg)

>>517799

Friendly reminder that Antifa is currently raiding /pol/, probably because of the recent DACA thing. You'll probably see some spillover since communists hate Christianity and Antifa likes to be dark and edgy.


967596 No.517839

>>517790

The same principle applies to the state. The state has an obligation to uphold laws that promote the glory of God and the common good.


ae3fdd No.518096

>>517839

>The same principle applies to the state. The state has an obligation to uphold laws that promote the glory of God and the common good.

True, although the apostles never killed the heretics they faced.


138a74 No.518097

Jesuits aren't relevant publicly.

You're confusing apathy with antipathy.


b13d70 No.518599

>>517824

>communists hate Christianity

If you say so

communism and christianity have a lot in common

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism


71436c No.518605

Jesuits are Jewish Reptilians wearing Christian skin.


4e9c41 No.518618

>>518599

t. person who hasn't read the Bible or the writings of prominent Communists


2e9851 No.518621

>>514943

>>514928

Jesuits are crypto-jews.


554c80 No.518627

> why the Jesuit name is dragged through the mud

If you dunno whether the accusations are true, you dunno whether the name is dragged through the mud or belongs there. I dunno either. Get history books, verify sources and tell the tree from the fruits.


554c80 No.518630

>>518599

satanism has a lot in common with other religions too, so what?


7e5af7 No.518680

>>514680

I'm not, but I think Cathbros here think liberal Jesuits will be the death of the church

Either that or they're the convenient whipping boys of the Buptists for how immoral and decrepit roman catholicism is


7e5af7 No.518681

>>518680

>I'm not

only cuz I know nothing about them, mind


7e5af7 No.518688

>>517824

NO!!!1!


a95eff No.518691

>>515028

It's pretty crazy to me that people think this way. Like, you believe if the disciples had been able to, they would've burned all the pagan Romans and unconverted Jews around them to death if they refused to become Christian? Just madness. Pretty much everything in the gospels argues against this.


fb6f88 No.519023

>>518621

What does that even mean?


2f5439 No.519028

>>514907

i think you should read again the title of this thread, buddy


63acab No.519120

>>514680

You are missing a disturbing amount of evidence.


5b89ef No.519634

>>518691

Not really. Christianity is not a political religion in that it does not prescribe any particular governmental system. The New Testament was written in the context of a non-Christian or even anti-Christian government, so there wouldn't have been any reason for the Apostles to comment directly on government policy in their epistles. That said, a good government established by Christians should govern in a manner informed by Christian principles. To say that they shouldn't is akin to those in our time who say that the government can't forbid abortion, sodomitical unions etc., due to separation of church and state. The absolute separation of Church and state is not a Christian principle. Neither is religious tolerance an absolute human right.


13d692 No.519711

>>514692

This unironically


256951 No.520244

>>514680

Blame /pol/

Seriously. This is all of /pol/'s fault. The jesuits is part of their grand over-reaching conspiracy. Everything you read that's against the jesuits is likely the result of someone who's brain is on /pol/.


fd12e1 No.520248

>>519634

You want to burn me to death for disagreeing on how to worship Christ. Is that loving thine neighbor as you love yourself? Is that doing unto others as you would have others do unto you?


0d7682 No.520257

>>514711

Why do Protestants hate Catholics more than the lies of those that literally murdered God Himself?


d23425 No.520560

they're literally the most subversive and heretical member of the church

example: catholic church forbids priests to marry sodomites in context of upcoming fag marriage vote in australia

who speaks up against this; in support of the fags?

you guessed it - a God dammed jesuit


d23425 No.520563


45ffc4 No.520565

>>520560

"a" being the key word here.


d23425 No.520572

>>519023

yes like its "a" single example of many,

many,

many

instances of contemporary jesuit subversiveness

in the past? maybe they were useful for heretical nations

now this order of skinny dippers is uncontested in their inner-ecclesial wickness


5b89ef No.520754

>>520248

Ideally, the government would ask you nicely first, but if you persisted in promoting heresy, then maybe it's just for the best..


59b3ff No.521059

Jesuit-educated here, but I am still pissed how the Jesuits in my country went MUH PEACE and joined traitorous politicians in railroading a peace deal that was obviously disadvantageous to the Nation, a virtual surrender to terrorists, and ultimately promoted more violence and fear because it emboldened the terrorists while citizens armed up thinking the government will not protect them. Thankfully this madness was stopped and some of the traitors are no longer in power but remain unpunished.


371a6e No.521061

>>521059

Colombia?


87d500 No.521156

Jesuits are crypto jews/masons. All the way back to its inception it was so. Ignatius De Loyola was literally known to be a Marrano, meaning crypto-jew.

I was at a wedding not long ago that took place in a Jesuit church. This place was loaded with occult pyramid symbology. My cousin's wife's family all look suspiciously merchant like, go figure.

These are one of the very worst of Khazar breeds, those that pretend to be Christians, wolves in sheeps clothing


b45e4e No.522263

File: d56484bdfd2b059⋯.png (424.79 KB, 818x1074, 409:537, 01.png)


4a5061 No.522426

>>514713

I'm inclined to to side w/ >>514778 . From what I've read (and correct me if im wrong, im not well versed on this topic) but the Cathars refused to convert. They were forced to recant or were hanged, or burnt at the stake.

>After several decades of harassment and re-proselytising, and, perhaps even more important, the systematic destruction of their religious texts, the sect was exhausted and could find no more adepts. The leader of a Cathar revival in the Pyrenean foothills, Peire Autier was captured and executed in April 1310 in Toulouse.[74][75] After 1330, the records of the Inquisition contain very few proceedings against Cathars.[57] The last known Cathar perfectus in the Languedoc, Guillaume Bélibaste, was executed in the autumn of 1321.[76][75]


797a60 No.522506

why does this board only attract /pol/tards


11691d No.522595

>>522263

Got the tweet?


20cf8c No.522601

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>522263

>American Catholics


f1c333 No.522602


c342c4 No.522674

>>521156

This post is kind of ironic considering that for most of the Jesuit's history, Jewish converts were explicitly forbidden from joining the Jesuits.


ad8866 No.526278

File: 19197fd1c457510⋯.mp4 (6.85 MB, 720x720, 1:1, 1vhHwh8zY4Ud_NW8.mp4)


0a8d16 No.526351

>>526278

I guess the reason why they act like that is because they have dirt on them. I think that an issue in our denomination is that we have leaders who can't commit to being free of vice. If they leave the denomination or position then they're concerned that people will find Catholicism weak. If they try to deny the blackmailing, then hit-pieces will hit the credibility of the faith. So their best option is to subvert scripture to placate to blackmailers.

I feel that clergy is too fixated on having a "pure image" like golden materials and white robes, instead of showing proper steps to show that they're gradually transforming.




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